WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 21 May 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:06.680 From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray live Cana. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:08.800 Good evening, Thank you so much for watching. Come on 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:10.719 into the man Cave for the end of a hunt day. 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.800 Your week's almost over, Not really, but you can get my 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:15.160 point all right. 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:17.759 We are on air all over the country, but we 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.680 are specifically on air Fredaware in regional Australia, and I 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:23.520 know we are in and around the Mid North. 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:24.479 Coast of New South Wales. 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:26.400 Before we get to the politics, and there'll be plenty 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:29.120 of that, it will get to the emergency situation that 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.720 is unfolding as we speak. We have learned today that 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:36.800 up to fifty thousand residents and lots of little places 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:38.839 and big ones as well up and down the Mid 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:42.240 North coast, they are in a world of trouble right now. 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:45.080 Tare has been a particular focus. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:47.280 And I know that there was some concern today that 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.720 all of the people who needed to be rescued, including 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.680 people off roofs, may not have been so by the 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:57.320 fall of the sun and into the evening this evening 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.720 here is part of those that had been able to 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.400 be contacted in and around Tarre tonight. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.000 We just really want to get some rescue out here 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:08.959 and you know our neighbors here on. 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.280 The background are here. 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:13.960 They are also trended. 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:18.000 It was in well In and it's now well over 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:19.240 a meter high through the. 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.880 House and the river has been constantly rising for the 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:27.240 last forty eight hours and is well over six meters 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:27.800 all right. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.840 As for the emergency response which is still playing out 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.520 in this part of Australia, the Mid North Coast is 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:37.199 of course very large area. While technically in and around 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:41.720 places like Port mcquarie, Kempsey up to Coffs Harbor, yes, Tarre, 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:46.959 everything from little places like Nambuca Heads all the way 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.680 through to other areas. Again, this is the latest map 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:51.480 that we have for you here, so I know there's 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.520 a lot of people watching us from caravan parks like 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:58.080 Valley Beach all the way through two big centers like 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.320 places like Tare, Kempsey and all the rest. So the 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.760 latest in a moment from the sees from the Emergency 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:08.040 Services Minister in New South Wales today Jihad. 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.519 Did this was his latest information. 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.839 We expect that today's weather will also continue with predictions 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.280 of between one hundred and fifty and two hundred millimeters, 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.120 particularly in that Mid North Coast area and what we're 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:25.560 also seeing is a movement of that rainband further north, 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:29.919 starting impact into parts southern parts around the Crops Harbor area. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.480 Now, let's talk again about this rain where it's been 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:38.320 huge amounts of it on top of already very wet land, 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.640 and like it was with the Lismore floods years ago, obviously, 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:45.760 when there is no rain being able to be absorbed 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.200 by the ground, it literally just turns to glass and 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.920 obviously makes its way up from. 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:52.840 The rivers down from the hills. 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.079 And there's plenty of hills around this area as well, 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:56.960 so that's kind of what we're dealing with right now. 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.520 This is the latest when it comes to the weather 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.000 situation for the next of the war. 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.280 We've already seen the peak in the Patterson River and 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.959 that is easy now, while Wallumby Brook at Bolger may 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:12.519 reach the major level tomorrow morning, but it's further north 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.800 that I've got greater concerns the Hastings River and the 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.840 Nanbucker River. Both of them are either at major level 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:24.160 such as Warhope or likely to reach major such as Maxville, 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.359 but with the rain that is still forecast, those two 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:30.960 rivers may also follow suit with Tare and get up 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:36.000 to at least close to that record flood height, depending 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.080 on the rain that is still to come in those regions. 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.640 Colin Malone is with the State Emergency Service in New 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:47.480 South Wales and let's get the latest information from him. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:47.720 Now. 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.839 Anyone who's driven up and down the Pacific Highway as 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.120 it has been over the years knows that it's so 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:58.760 still quite a significant amount of countryside from Tarre to Coffs. Colin, 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.080 what's the latest about what's happen, Because again I'm able 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.360 to hurt yourself or one of your colleagues on the 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:07.120 radio this afternoon with this concern in and around the 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.119 number of evacuations or rescues that you had to get 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.560 done before it turned to nightfall. What's it like, Well, 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:15.480 a few hours into the night. 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:20.000 Now, Good evening, Paul, and good evening to all your 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:24.480 viewers and listeners joining us tonight. We had confirmed in 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:29.040 the early afternoon before the night you started that all 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.240 people that were on roofs that needed to be rescued 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:35.800 had been rescued. There's a few final people that are 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:39.480 being followed up on and checked up on in the 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.960 Tari and glen Thorne area. Just to make sure because 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.240 sometimes we get duplicate calls come through. But we're spending 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.200 the early part of the tonight just double checking with 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.479 all the people, getting contact with them, making sure that 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:55.160 we did get everyone out. It was a dynamic situation, 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.520 as I think we've all seen on the news, that 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.400 we'd go into a resident it called and then a 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.719 whole street of residents was still there, and we worked 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.720 with them to get them out safely as well. So 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.839 the numbers that were pulled out were beyond the fifty 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.599 two that we originally thought that we're still in there. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.799 We actually conducted three hundred and seventy nine flood rescues 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.640 in the last twenty four hours. It's been a massive 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.120 twenty four hours for all the emergency services and our volunteers. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.400 I'm just looking here at one of the maps, and 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.359 obviously there's the coastal areas, that's where most of the 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:32.520 people are, but there are little townships and a lot 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.760 of people living on large parts of land by themselves. 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.760 The further we start to go in now, when you've 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.640 only got so many people, how do you start to 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.880 triage to say, Okay, let's deal with tare, let's deal 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:50.039 with Maxville up the road. Let's deal with Nambuka, But 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.839 then what about a place like war Hoope, what about 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:57.080 places that are a little further in that presumably those 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.440 volunteers may well be not in those towns. How have 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.039 you been able to surge the people inland? 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.560 So we've had in that part of the world over 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.720 one thy six hundred volunteers operational and active through the 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:15.240 day and continuing into the night. We've got all of 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.560 our emergency service partners working with us on this operation. 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.800 So we've got extra flood rescue crews from Ambulance, Fire 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:27.160 and Rescue, Volunteer Rescue Association, some from the Rural Fire 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.120 Service as well. So the whole we're taking a whole 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.800 of state approach here where we work together under the 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:37.240 sees's leadership, and we're pre deploying those into all those communities. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.520 So assets were put into that risk communities. We didn't 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.400 just put them all in one location. We spread them 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:45.920 around those A risk communities. 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:46.520 Yeah. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.560 So okay, so let's talk about the picture through the 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:54.800 night and into tomorrow, matching where the rain is and 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.880 in our own people on our weather channel here is 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.480 starting to say that you know, the further we Go 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.600 is where potentially we might be in the next twenty 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.239 four hours. Give me an idea about the coverage plan 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:07.719 for the next twenty four hours. 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:11.600 Yeah, so what we're looking at over the next twenty 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:15.280 four hours is definitely the rain spreading up to about 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:19.280 the Coffs Harbor area. So we've got evacuation orders in 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:24.320 place for Kempsei, for Gladstone, for Smithtown, parts of Nembuka, 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:29.160 Jerseyville in that general area as well, and a number 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:33.800 of those other localities north of the Maning and the Hastings. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.679 So moving all the way up the coast to about 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.840 that Coffs Harbor area. We've got two incident control centers 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:41.840 running twenty four to seven in that part of the world, 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:45.280 so one in that Hunter mid North Coast area and 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.720 another one that actually operates out of Lizmore but it 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:52.240 covers down to that Cofts Harbor area. So a lot 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:56.600 of resources are focused on the coast tonight, and we've 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:59.000 got a lot of warnings out and all those communities 0:07:59.160 --> 0:07:59.920 are being engaged with. 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:03.040 So give me an idea. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:04.960 I'm just again trying to think about people that are 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.760 watching us in places like tar Re. Again, I'm just 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:11.640 looking here at Kempsey up to Coffs. There's a lot 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.840 of people that when they're evacuated, they go to these 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:19.760 evacuation centers. Is the expectation about the flood movement, the 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:23.880 rainfall and what comes in towards the coast that anyone 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.840 in those places should expect to be there for just 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:28.840 tonight or a couple of nights. 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.360 I think everyone needs to prepare for at least a 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:37.480 few nights away from home. It's so hard to understand, 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.360 particularly we look at what occurred on the river in 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:45.600 tari We broke the nineteen twenty nine record overnight last night. 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.520 So the mother nature and the weather has just continued 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:53.440 to be relentless. The best known plans and the best 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:57.559 known records that we have got exceeded. So we're watching 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.760 and monitoring as close as possible. As soon as we 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:01.760 can and give the all clear for people to go 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:05.880 into back home, we will. But I think everyone should 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:07.520 plan for being a couple of nights away from home 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:08.280 as a minimum. 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.040 All right, If anyone needs information, the number is obvious 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.080 behind you, one to five hundred. But can I just 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.240 say to all of the people, a lot are volunteers 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.760 in your organization for those of us that are sitting 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.200 back not involved in the emergency, we thank you for 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:21.640 the effort. 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:23.760 We know the energy levels. 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:25.640 Are always hard to keep up, but the spirit is 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:29.080 always there. A great job you have been able to 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.360 mobilize in the past couple of days, and obviously I 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.680 hope that the work gets easier, although we know it 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.079 probably won't in the next few days. Thank you so much, mate, 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:36.880 I really appreciate it. 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.840 Thank you, Paul, have a wonderful night. Everybody. 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:42.760 Good on your Colin. Thank you Colin. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.880 Of course there with the ses now again this coverage area. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.319 Can we bring the map back please from the start 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:51.040 of the show. I'm just looking at the rain radar 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:56.480 that is right now very heavy falls are everywhere from 0:09:56.559 --> 0:10:00.840 say Kempsey all the way through up to looking here 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:06.800 year past Coughs Harbor, even up to Wooleye. And in 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:10.920 terms of it going in, well, yeah it is. It 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.960 is into Dorigo right now. It is, as you can see, 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.720 quite widespread and because as you can also see to 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:19.680 the write of your screen, there the amount of water 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.800 that these things are able to produce and then turn 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.439 around and dump when it gets back onto the coastline. 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.480 That is part of the problem of the next little wall. 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:29.839 Strength and love to everyone. Now we are, of course 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:34.040 part of the emergency information system for people in those areas. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.680 If anything changes in this hour, That's what I'm going 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:41.400 to talk about over any and everything else. In the meantime, 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.000 please keep an eye on sky News dot com dot au, 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:49.240 keep a look at the sees website, the Hazard's website 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:52.000 or hazards near me in New South Wales, and we'll 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:55.839 make sure again all the information possible and rolling weather 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.760 coverage over on sky News Weather in the meantime. Couple 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.200 of other things before we get to the politics of 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.240 the day now. Of course, yesterday the Reserve Bank decided 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.200 to make things easier for those of us that are 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.439 desperately trying to pay off a house as fast as 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.280 we possibly can. Now, yes, we've had two drops, but 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:17.280 remember there were thirteen ups, so the collective pain is 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:21.040 still eleven interest rate rises on the average Australian. Now 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:25.240 interestingly today real estate dot com dot Au they decided 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:29.439 to go and check with every lending institution they could 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:33.079 think of, and they're found seventy five institutions that have 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.520 not handed on the rate cut in full. 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:36.520 These are some. 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.440 The full list is on that website of real estate 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:43.120 dot com dot Au, Adelaide Bank, Australian Unity, the Bank 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.920 of China, Bendigo Bank, Mortgage House, Quantus Money, Yellow Brick 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.640 Road are some of those institutions that have decided not 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:53.160 to pass it on, which opens up to the possibility 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.280 of Australians being able to refinance. 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:55.559 Now. 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:59.240 Remember we lived in real time over the past three years. 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.960 The number of people who were moving from fixed rate 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.439 mortgages which were at the lower levels to the variables 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:09.600 which started to well in real terms, start to feel 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:11.880 like they were going through the roof. Now as things 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.439 start to slightly stabilize, or you might be moving again 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.000 from that fixed rate to the variable. The old shop 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:21.200 around principle put simply as it was put today. In 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.920 a conversation with real estate dot com dot Au Graham 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:29.240 Cook from the financial website Finder, he says that even 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.000 if if the full rate cut isn't passed on by 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:35.160 your current lender, the competitive environment means there will likely 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:40.360 be better deals available elsewhere. This makes refinancing crucial for homeowners 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:44.200 looking to maximize their savings. I know that's obvious, obvious, 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.000 but rather important you do not have to pay loyalty 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:52.080 tax to financial institutions who, let's be honest, couldn't care less. 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:56.959 Now we know that, regardless of the day, regardless of 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:00.239 the circumstances, regardless of whether there is or isn't calamity 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.840 in the news, there is one topic that the left 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.120 of Australian politics loves to talk about. 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:06.880 Climate change. 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:11.720 Climate change, climate change, climate change, change, climate change, climate change, 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:13.080 climate change. 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.360 And after the federal election, the boss of the Labor 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:19.760 Party was saying to all who would listen today that 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.600 they have won the climate wars. 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:26.520 In the decade before twenty twenty two, Australia's policy settings 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:28.160 barely acknowledged climate. 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.600 Change and there was no plan for keeping the lights on. 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.800 Now we are taking advantage of the opportunities created by 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.840 the global shift to renewables. And as the Prime Minister 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:41.240 said at our launch, Labor has one energy policy and 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.520 we are delivering it the. 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:44.600 Truest of true believers. 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.440 But history is written written by the winners right and 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.040 as we know over the past three years, and a 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:54.520 great plan of the next three years is to ruin 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:59.920 the earth to save the atmosphere renewables, many of which 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.800 in China by slave labor sh don't tell you one. 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.440 Many renewables dotting all up and down the coast that 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:10.880 eventually will end up in landfill, don't tell you one. Or, 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.400 as our colleague and friend Chris Hulman tollas in his 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.640 documentary The Real Cost of Net Zero, something that you 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.040 can expect to be coming to a location near you, 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.640 especially if you have a view of trees. 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.360 Stephen has used his training as a cartographer to map 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.080 the number of wind and solar farms that will need 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.320 to be built on the national electricity market to hit 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:38.520 the government targets, stretching from far North Queensland, through New 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:45.359 South Wales, Victoria west to Port Lincoln in South Australia 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.040 and across the Bass Strait to Tasmania. 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:54.120 But what are you talking about, Paul? 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.400 Election has been won by Labor one by ninety three seats. 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.360 No discussion at all. Cost of transition doesn't matter anymore 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:05.600 War one. That's not the point that I'm trying to make. 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:11.840 As we know, Australia is the big dog of the 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:17.240 countries in the Pacific. We prop up many countries in 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:21.520 and around the Pacific Islands, and a subject which Australia 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:25.720 is more than willing to take the free advice in 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:29.400 exchange for not free amounts of money. Is when it 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:33.360 comes to climate change in this part of the world. 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:39.400 I'm very pleased to have the engagement with our friends 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:43.920 from throughout the Pacific, including how we shape a peaceful, 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:49.320 stable and secure Pacific region, how we act together on 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.320 the challenge of climate change. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.120 So that was just for anyone who was just having 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.360 trouble drifting off to sleep now here and now hopefully 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:00.440 they've gone, they're relaxed on an excitement machine. Only three 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:05.560 seats is of course, the reality is that even if 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.680 Australia did every single thing that people like anam band 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:12.840 would dream of, every single thing, they wouldn't even verbalize 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:17.480 in terms of climate action, we won't change the climate. 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.160 We can do our bit, but we won't change the climate. 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:25.480 Why because, according to the Union of Concerned Scientists, Australia 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:29.920 produces just one percent of the world's climate emissions. Let's 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:31.320 look at this as if it was a clock. Okay, 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.640 let's start at midday at the top. Well, of course, 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:38.120 China is the biggest polluter. They don't have net zero. Instead, 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.840 they have ned zero twenty sixty, but of course they 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:44.400 are continuing to pollute each and every day. The rest 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.960 of the world, which takes up the rest of the 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.400 half of the clock, well, they of course don't have 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:51.880 all the same rules that apply to them as we 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.880 try to apply to ourselves. There's the United States, which 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.280 is taking us to about twenty minutes before the top 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.160 of the hour, and of course the Trump administration has 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.760 pulled out of things like the Paris Agreement. 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:04.240 Then therese country is. 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:08.359 Like India with more than a billion people, and what 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:12.000 it's almost quarter two now before of course we can 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:12.879 say get to Russia. 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:14.480 So before you get to forty. 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:18.399 Five minutes past the climate clock, you can pretty much 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.240 say that none of those countries are involved in the solution. 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.080 It's said, apparently it is the little one percent waffer, 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:29.399 the waffer at about five minutes to midnight Australia that 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.240 is apparently the one that has to do everything to 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:34.800 change everything, despite the fact that even if we did 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.359 every single thing that every single green could possibly dream of, 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:43.520 guess what, in just over two weeks, China would completely 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:48.240 continue to pollute the planet by everything that Australia would 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:54.160 have saved. Why am I talking about this tonight because 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.920 in a this way, do you think I'd learned by now? 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.879 A rare dose of honesty about climate change? Penny Wang 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:08.639 told Pacific Island leaders that China might actually be the 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:13.680 biggest problem when it comes to climate change, not Australia. 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:18.560 Pennywang called out China as the world's leading contributed to 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.119 climate change as she defended Australia's efforts to cut emissions 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.639 on the first day of a Pacific trip. Foreign minister 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.720 was in Fiji on Tuesday, when she was pressed about 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:32.639 whether a reelected Abanzi government would commit to deeper climate action, 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:35.800 Defending Australia's substantial effort. 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:36.800 Blah blah blah blah blah. 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:41.080 Then she says, China is the world's biggest emitter. Its 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:46.200 actions will determine whether we can achieve our target. Ding 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:48.120 ding ding ding ding ding ding. 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:50.960 The truth. 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:58.879 Even if every single climate catastrophus in Australia got exactly 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:02.280 what they wanted. We pulled out all of the cables, 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.959 we shut down all of the machines, we filled in 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:10.479 all of the holes that are there in mining, China 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:15.560 would replace everything that we had saved in just sixteen days. 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:25.080 Australia's one percent cannot overpower the polluting power of more 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:30.760 than a third of global emissions, that being China. Yet, 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.479 for some reason to say this is heresy, for some 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.119 reason to say this says. 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:36.960 That you deny climate change, for. 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.520 Some reason to say this says that you're some sort 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.439 of knuckle dragger from the past. 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:49.159 No, should Australia do its bit? You bet you. But 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.080 if we are going through all of the trouble we. 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:54.040 Are currently going through to cut forty three percent of 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:57.679 one percent of the problem, and there are Labor Party 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:01.240 activists who would like us to cut seventy five percent 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:06.080 of one percent of the world's problem, when will any 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:07.200 of them admit. 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:10.800 That Penny Wang is right that. 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:12.960 Even if we do everything they want to do, with 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.760 all of the pain, all of the change, all of 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.879 the disruption that comes with it, all of the rewarding 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:24.679 of slave labor in China, we would still end up 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.960 in a scenario where we would not be able to 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:28.639 change the weather. 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:33.280 But because now many people in. 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.280 Our societies believe in the environment more than they do God, 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:40.800 and I say this as an atheist. Once people start 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:45.320 getting into these levels of belief, were even to point 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:47.320 out the fact that we are one percent of the 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:51.560 world's problem, and their conclusion is, well, then that's Great's 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:53.760 let's shut everything down and let's solve one percent of 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:57.040 the world's problem. They still need to understand that it 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:01.399 doesn't change the weather, it won't change the global pliant. 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.679 It will serve as a model, yes, but think of 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.840 the pain we have to go through to just set 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:14.000 an example. TNA know what you think about that or 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:15.600 anything else you can see me an email Pault's go 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:18.399 news dot com, dot au. Let's get to the National 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:20.400 Party and its decision, of course to step away from 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:23.840 the Liberal Party, the coalition that is now of course 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.520 in TATUS a person who knows what it's like to 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.600 be in the leadership position of a coalition is, of 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:33.560 course the former Deputy Prime Minister, former Nationals leader and 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.040 a straight talker as always Michael McCormack, who joins us 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.199 twenty four hours after that decision, but he was in 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.679 the room as the decision was being made yesterday. Michael, 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:42.639 nice to talk to you mate. Where are we tonight? 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:43.560 I like the background. 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:46.840 I'm in Bounding Community Hall and you'd love you need 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.320 to come out to this community Paul. We've had a 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:54.960 protest meeting tonight talking about ninety wind towers higher than 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:58.240 the Trump Manhattan Tower, which are going to be placed 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:02.840 potentially between and bidenl on too great little communities in 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:06.120 the Yas Valley. This is the rush to renewables madness. 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:09.399 This is what these communities are facing. And one hundred 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.960