1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Fitzi and Whipper podcast. 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 2: Didn't we go in the panic yesterday? I mean the 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: people are mossmen went into. 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Their houses, their mansions, just to get away from the 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: lions around Toronto, the. 6 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 3: Beautiful boutiques in Military Road. I mean they started vaulting inside. 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: Tommy Williams did the opposite. He text me he was 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: out there trying to tackle him. He said, if I 9 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 2: see him, I'll get them. For your feet, I'll go hard. 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: One of them was wearing a handbag. After a while 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: it had been shopping on Military Right. Tell you what, well, 12 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: he did see vision yesterday of them checking a certain 13 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: part of the fence there and there were digging They 14 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: found digging marks. 15 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: The cunning, aren't they? At some stage? This is the thing. 16 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: I mean, there's been escapes around zoos all across the world. 17 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: The chimps are pretty good at it. The orangutangs they're 18 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: pretty smart. They do it out. 19 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: It makes sense that they could get out. 20 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: But the lines got out. 21 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 2: Now, if you're if you were staying at the zoo 22 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: with the raw and snore overnight at four am, you 23 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: were woken to hear the lines roaring. But little did 24 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: you know that they were quite near you? This is 25 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: the thing they had. They were woken up. Everyone in 26 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 2: their raw and snow tents. You got thirty seconds to 27 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: grab your stuff. 28 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: And get out of here. This is Code one. 29 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: One man who was in one of those tents is Magnus, 30 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: with his kids and his family. 31 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: Magnus, Welcome to the pits of you remember. 32 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 4: Show, thank you in good morning. 33 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: Magnus. 34 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 3: Amazing that now you're now familiar with the term code 35 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: one at a zoo. Can you talk us through the 36 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: first moment you realize there was a bit of an issue. 37 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: Where were you on what happened? So? 38 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: I was inside a tent and woke up at about six thirties. 39 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 4: I was quarter about sixty in the morning, and about 40 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 4: twenty seven there wasn't a sound alarm going on of 41 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 4: the zoo, and the zookeepers came down running screaming Code one. 42 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: Everyone out of the tent. This is an emergency Code one, Run, go, go, gosh. 43 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: What did you think it happened to Magnus? 44 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: Like, what was the first thought in your mind? 45 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: I was just grateful it wasn't cold brown, you know 46 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 4: what I mean? 47 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: Well, he would have turned into Magnus. 48 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: I would have thought. 49 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: They would have been in the back of your strides, Magnus. 50 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: So were the kids crying? Were they freaking out? Or 51 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: everyone was quite calm. 52 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 4: Now, look, we didn't know what was going on there. 53 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 4: We just did what we were told and we ran 54 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: up to that little toilet area like a stafehouse. They 55 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 4: counted us and they locked the door, and that's when 56 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 4: I realized, if they're locking the door, there's going to 57 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 4: be something wrong here. No one knew what it was still, 58 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 4: and even the zoo keepers said, oh, this is probably 59 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: only a drill. We do them every Nonday, typically in 60 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: the morning, yes, before the guests arriving so on. But 61 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 4: we heard them on the radio, actually zookeepers that were outside, 62 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: and some of them said, I can't find them. And 63 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 4: that's when I realized, what two of them I can't find? 64 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: Magnus. 65 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: You got the ultimate package there, you got the mess, 66 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: you've got the raw snore, and they're at your back 67 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: door the package. 68 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: So they're right there. So are you happy with what 69 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: you got overnight? Yeah? 70 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 4: Apart from the screening when I got out of the 71 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 4: tent and the blood that was squirting everywhere, and you 72 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 4: know I'm only lying. 73 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: No, my God would suggest this is nor your first interview, 74 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: madness love in the fifteen minutes of fine, So quite 75 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 3: quickly were you moved and ushered outside of the zoo walls? 76 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 4: And no, so they they got it under control, and 77 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: I think they one of the lines they had to 78 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: put a tranquilizer thing on, and eventually they led it 79 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 4: out and said it's all over. Everything's under control, And 80 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: we actually went up to have breakfast and we've got 81 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: a brief from the general manager and they were really good. 82 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: I even said to him, I think they handled this 83 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 4: so well. You know, they followed protocol and everything was 84 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 4: lucky checklist sort of thing. 85 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: How did the kids get a fluffy tour on the 86 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: way out? Did they give you a free one? 87 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: Magnus? 88 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 4: No, I tell him that for it? 89 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: What a had another night raw and snaw? You'd acting 90 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: get a free be there? 91 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: Wouldn't you even cross my mind out, Magnus? 92 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: What a moment like It's not often these situations arise 93 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: every now and then, Like you were saying, thank you 94 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: for joining us, Magnus, you do hear these stories? Fits 95 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: of an animal? 96 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 2: Get this is you know what there was twenty twenty one. 97 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: I forgot about this one. But there was the chimp 98 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: escape in Taronga. It was only a year. 99 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: That was January last year. 100 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: Chimpanzee squatting behind the perimeter of the enclosure at the 101 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 2: African Savannah area. What about this one? The Mogo Zoo 102 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: on New South Wales south coast. Now one of the 103 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: lions Jamilia escape from there. That was a zookeeper area 104 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: era and about thirty five elderly visitors were on the 105 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: grounds at the time with this one hundred and ninety 106 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 2: kilogram lion just walking around. Unfortunately they had to shoot 107 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: the line on that line. 108 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: I know. 109 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: That was a really sad one. There was an Adelaide 110 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: zoo one with an orangutang as well. There's a lot 111 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: of these from around the world. There was one orangutang 112 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: called Kin the orangutang in San Diego, ken and he 113 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: was known he escaped from the zoo about twelve times 114 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: in the eighties. 115 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: Sierrah, Oh my god. 116 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: He moved in, he got an airbnb and just fitted 117 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: in with a community. 118 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: He was so good. 119 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: He would use other orangutans to put off the zookeepers 120 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: as he was making the escape clever. 121 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: I went to a zoo once, and this was in 122 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: sort of country Victoria, and it was a small zoo. 123 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 3: I didn't even know that they had a zoo. There 124 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: was in a town called Mansfield. 125 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: Anyway. 126 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: It was sort of an open plane zoo. But they 127 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: had a big population of deer. I don't know what 128 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: you call a collective now, And for deer, a pack 129 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: of deer, let's call it a paddock of deer. There 130 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: was heaps of deers in this paddock. And then they 131 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: had two lions, right, and the lions were in this crappy, 132 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: crappy cage you might call it enclosure, which had been 133 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: patched together at times with chicken wire. 134 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: Right. 135 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: It didn't look like it could hold a line at all. 136 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: The problem with it was, though, is when you go 137 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: to the zoo, you then buy a bucket of food 138 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: and you walk around and the deer eat the food. 139 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: So you can walk down to the line enclosure at 140 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: which you did, and you can stand right on the 141 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 3: fence and have a look at the lions. There's a 142 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: lion standing there on one side of the enclosed one 143 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: side of the fence, and I'm on the other outside. 144 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: There's twenty deer trying to eat the food out of 145 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: my bucket. The lion is looking at the deer. Yeah, going, 146 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: there's a smaller sport of BAMBI was there. 147 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: A moat in between you? 148 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: It was unbelievable, and I was there with a girlfriend 149 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: at the time. The lion then up on a tine feet, 150 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 3: roars and grabs onto the fence. 151 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: Gone. I was gone. 152 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: I ran for my life, being of the jungle, protecting 153 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: your I could have got eaten. The deers could no, no, 154 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: no no no left her there for food. She needed 155 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: to be the sacrificial bait. And I was just hot footing. 156 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: It out of there, simber over here. 157 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: You never never ever feed a deer outside of line enclosure, 158 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: is what I've said fore. 159 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Fitzi and Whipper podcast