1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apodjake Production. 2 00:00:22,881 --> 00:00:26,921 Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of ami ad Mom Podcast. 3 00:00:27,481 --> 00:00:30,721 Speaker 2: I was having a chat earlier about the fact that 4 00:00:30,881 --> 00:00:33,561 Speaker 2: next week is December. I think a lot of people 5 00:00:33,561 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: will be doing kind of the same thing in regards 6 00:00:35,841 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: to holidays. But we pretty much got two weeks at work. Yes, yeah, yeah, 7 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,521 Speaker 2: I know that means two weeks at work. That means 8 00:00:43,561 --> 00:00:48,081 Speaker 2: two weeks of preparation for Christmas shopping and stuff like that. 9 00:00:48,641 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 2: I feel like it's just crept up on us. 10 00:00:50,601 --> 00:00:53,161 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it has crept up. We always say 11 00:00:53,161 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: it this time of year. For some reason, this year 12 00:00:55,961 --> 00:00:56,601 Speaker 3: feels different. 13 00:00:56,721 --> 00:00:58,241 Speaker 2: There's usually a lot of lead up. 14 00:00:58,401 --> 00:01:00,361 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, this year feels really different. 15 00:01:00,441 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: There's stuff going on. I don't think I've been invited 16 00:01:03,241 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: to a single Christmas party. 17 00:01:04,441 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what's going on. 18 00:01:06,121 --> 00:01:08,641 Speaker 2: Usually it starts in November people are doing something. 19 00:01:08,761 --> 00:01:12,361 Speaker 3: And also like there's lots of usual like pr events 20 00:01:12,401 --> 00:01:15,601 Speaker 3: and those sorts of things like this, very nothing's going on. 21 00:01:15,881 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, don't know what the feeling is, don't 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,401 Speaker 3: know why it's different, but it does feel different, and 23 00:01:19,441 --> 00:01:21,321 Speaker 3: I agree with you, But we are on the what 24 00:01:21,401 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: did you want? The other week we recorded a podcast 25 00:01:24,761 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: and you were trying to bring in another word that 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,481 Speaker 3: you hadn't used for maybe two decades. And I was 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: re listening to that particular podcast and I still was 28 00:01:36,121 --> 00:01:38,081 Speaker 3: shaking my head, going what was she thinking? 29 00:01:38,521 --> 00:01:41,161 Speaker 2: Was it helter skelter, helter skelter? So I said we 30 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,881 Speaker 2: were on So in my mind, I was thinking, we're 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,681 Speaker 2: on the downhill slide into the Christmas holiday. 32 00:01:46,761 --> 00:01:49,361 Speaker 3: And in my head I had a picture of MacDonald's 33 00:01:49,361 --> 00:01:53,361 Speaker 3: playground that used to have the slides that were like, yeah, 34 00:01:53,641 --> 00:01:55,881 Speaker 3: so I had in my head a downward spiral and 35 00:01:55,921 --> 00:01:57,641 Speaker 3: you were like, no, the slide. 36 00:01:58,241 --> 00:02:01,441 Speaker 2: That is kind of what I meant. But that's the 37 00:02:01,601 --> 00:02:03,081 Speaker 2: like tube slide. 38 00:02:03,721 --> 00:02:06,441 Speaker 1: Macis, Yeah, yeah. 39 00:02:05,521 --> 00:02:08,201 Speaker 2: Like that go down and they go round and round. Yeah, 40 00:02:08,641 --> 00:02:12,361 Speaker 2: so think about that, but with the top half so 41 00:02:12,561 --> 00:02:14,961 Speaker 2: it doesn't go over you, so it's like a half one. 42 00:02:15,281 --> 00:02:18,121 Speaker 3: So just to give you, like how I'm feeling right now, 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,881 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm going down, not a spiral, but 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,321 Speaker 3: like the fastest fucking slide you've ever felt, with about 45 00:02:26,361 --> 00:02:29,041 Speaker 3: like a twenty five kilo weight just pushing me down 46 00:02:29,081 --> 00:02:29,721 Speaker 3: even faster. 47 00:02:30,321 --> 00:02:32,201 Speaker 1: That's how fast things feel like right now. 48 00:02:32,481 --> 00:02:32,721 Speaker 3: Yeah. 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: I know, it's crazy it's a helter Skelter bait, helter skeltered, 50 00:02:37,201 --> 00:02:38,481 Speaker 1: Helter Skelter. 51 00:02:38,601 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: It's actually a band from nineteen sixty am I bad 52 00:02:51,841 --> 00:02:54,441 Speaker 3: mum for taking. 53 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: An impromptu parental night off. 54 00:02:56,761 --> 00:02:59,401 Speaker 3: Oh I'm bringing this one forward because I wasn't going 55 00:02:59,481 --> 00:03:02,081 Speaker 3: to actually talk about it. And then I was chatting 56 00:03:02,081 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: with a friend and they were like. 57 00:03:05,161 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: Of course you are allowed to do that. I am 58 00:03:09,321 --> 00:03:10,761 Speaker 1: sort of had a moment of going, no, you're not. 59 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,801 Speaker 3: You're not allowed to do that, like no one in 60 00:03:12,841 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: their right mind, Like that was me throwing a tantrum. 61 00:03:15,721 --> 00:03:18,961 Speaker 3: Back to the situation of the tantrum thrown by my 62 00:03:19,041 --> 00:03:20,041 Speaker 3: ten year old. 63 00:03:20,281 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: So a Thursday in our house is really busy. 64 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,041 Speaker 3: I go to Kelvin Grove and pick up Gracie from school, 65 00:03:28,121 --> 00:03:31,481 Speaker 3: drop her to dance, go home to get Elsie to 66 00:03:31,561 --> 00:03:36,201 Speaker 3: drive her back to netball. I dropped Elsie a message 67 00:03:36,601 --> 00:03:38,961 Speaker 3: on her iPad while she was at school and said, hey, 68 00:03:39,081 --> 00:03:41,401 Speaker 3: just a heads up because she likes to know things, 69 00:03:41,681 --> 00:03:44,081 Speaker 3: so you'll have more of a response from Elsie if 70 00:03:44,121 --> 00:03:47,121 Speaker 3: she knows things and advance. I've learned this quick and hard. 71 00:03:48,081 --> 00:03:51,001 Speaker 3: My message to her was heyesa heads up. I would 72 00:03:51,001 --> 00:03:53,681 Speaker 3: really like to go to the Cairo on our way 73 00:03:53,801 --> 00:03:56,681 Speaker 3: to netball. She was like, no, I don't want to 74 00:03:56,681 --> 00:03:58,241 Speaker 3: go to Cairo, and I was like, well, you don't 75 00:03:58,281 --> 00:03:59,841 Speaker 3: have to get an adjustment, but I am. 76 00:04:00,401 --> 00:04:02,521 Speaker 1: But we're going to go on the way to your netball, 77 00:04:02,601 --> 00:04:02,841 Speaker 1: so we. 78 00:04:02,841 --> 00:04:05,201 Speaker 2: Just need to lose as well. Isn't it like it's 79 00:04:05,281 --> 00:04:06,441 Speaker 2: take a quick fifteen. 80 00:04:06,121 --> 00:04:09,241 Speaker 3: Minutes, like maybe like twenty five minutes. Also, I'm driving 81 00:04:09,241 --> 00:04:11,681 Speaker 3: you to Netbull. Yeah, we're just going by. 82 00:04:12,041 --> 00:04:13,721 Speaker 2: So actually I'm not asking your permission. 83 00:04:13,801 --> 00:04:14,801 Speaker 1: I'm not asking you permission. 84 00:04:14,841 --> 00:04:16,881 Speaker 3: And if our heads up that this is what's gonna 85 00:04:16,921 --> 00:04:20,601 Speaker 3: happen right fast forward, gone to Calvin Grove, picked up Gracie, 86 00:04:20,641 --> 00:04:21,401 Speaker 3: dropped her a dance. 87 00:04:21,521 --> 00:04:24,001 Speaker 1: Come home. Now, this is usually a really quick turnaround. 88 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,361 Speaker 3: Sam's at home. We're both standing at the counter. I 89 00:04:28,401 --> 00:04:30,001 Speaker 3: said to Els, quick, can you go and get changed 90 00:04:30,001 --> 00:04:32,041 Speaker 3: for netball so we can leave in like five or 91 00:04:32,041 --> 00:04:33,961 Speaker 3: ten minutes so that we can go via the Cairo 92 00:04:34,401 --> 00:04:37,601 Speaker 3: to get to Netpul on time. She just fucking lost 93 00:04:37,641 --> 00:04:44,481 Speaker 3: it starts like screaming, crying, you forced me to do everything, 94 00:04:44,841 --> 00:04:48,121 Speaker 3: like just let rip And I was like looking at her. 95 00:04:48,361 --> 00:04:51,281 Speaker 3: I'm looking at Sam to like say something. It's not 96 00:04:51,401 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: just me and her head to head, log to log 97 00:04:53,841 --> 00:04:54,481 Speaker 3: all the time. 98 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: Have my back. All I'm asking is to drive to 99 00:04:57,801 --> 00:05:00,801 Speaker 1: the Cairo. On the way to Netpule. You don't even 100 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: have to get out of the car. You can just 101 00:05:02,481 --> 00:05:04,601 Speaker 1: see there. You are a passenger. 102 00:05:05,201 --> 00:05:08,121 Speaker 3: I'm driving you to your thing, so I consider it 103 00:05:08,201 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: your netple for an hour forty five on my fucking night, 104 00:05:12,601 --> 00:05:17,241 Speaker 3: get dressed. And at this point I'm heightened. She's even 105 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,561 Speaker 3: more heightened. She's like mimicking me, and I was like, mate, 106 00:05:20,721 --> 00:05:24,601 Speaker 3: do it again, just try me. Like at this stage, 107 00:05:24,841 --> 00:05:27,361 Speaker 3: Mute is still standing next to me saying nothing. 108 00:05:28,721 --> 00:05:33,641 Speaker 1: Elsie is just firing. I'm not going You forced me 109 00:05:33,681 --> 00:05:38,521 Speaker 1: to do this netble stuff. Oh no, I've never forced 110 00:05:38,521 --> 00:05:39,361 Speaker 1: you to do any of that. 111 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,001 Speaker 3: I have given you my time driving you for the 112 00:05:44,081 --> 00:05:48,281 Speaker 3: last seven weeks to this thing. Every time you have 113 00:05:48,401 --> 00:05:50,881 Speaker 3: turned up and you have thoroughly enjoyed it, and you've 114 00:05:50,961 --> 00:05:53,361 Speaker 3: wanted to go. Don't throw this on me on your 115 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,801 Speaker 3: last night because it's convenient today, because it's suit, because 116 00:05:56,841 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: you can't be bothered to go to the Cairo. Usually, Katie, 117 00:05:59,521 --> 00:06:01,441 Speaker 3: I will just go too bad. You have made a 118 00:06:01,481 --> 00:06:04,601 Speaker 3: commitment to a team too bad. This night, I got 119 00:06:04,601 --> 00:06:07,281 Speaker 3: to this point, I was worn down. He was saying nothing. 120 00:06:07,601 --> 00:06:10,001 Speaker 3: She was still going. And I looked at her and 121 00:06:10,041 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: I went, do you know what? You stay home, don't go, 122 00:06:12,601 --> 00:06:14,441 Speaker 3: don't go, I said, but I am going to email 123 00:06:14,681 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: the association. I'll let them know because you have to 124 00:06:17,681 --> 00:06:20,001 Speaker 3: reply and say that they're coming. I said, I'll tell 125 00:06:20,041 --> 00:06:22,561 Speaker 3: them that we're pulling out tonight and I'll let them 126 00:06:22,561 --> 00:06:23,281 Speaker 3: know why why. 127 00:06:23,121 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going. 128 00:06:23,841 --> 00:06:26,481 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not making an excuse. I'm not making excuses, 129 00:06:27,041 --> 00:06:28,721 Speaker 3: I said. But yeah, you're right, you don't have to go. 130 00:06:28,841 --> 00:06:30,841 Speaker 3: I'm not forcing you to do anything, I said, because 131 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,841 Speaker 3: I'm not wearing that later in life when you're like, eh, 132 00:06:32,961 --> 00:06:34,681 Speaker 3: you forced me to play an abook, I did not. 133 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,161 Speaker 1: You've always wanted to do this. 134 00:06:36,521 --> 00:06:37,761 Speaker 2: And was she happy with that? 135 00:06:38,121 --> 00:06:38,281 Speaker 3: Oh? 136 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,921 Speaker 1: She goes, oh, yep, that's fine. 137 00:06:39,921 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: Then I said, no, Goosman, because usually we'll go with 138 00:06:43,001 --> 00:06:48,561 Speaker 3: their mates after again, her go with her mates, sit down, 139 00:06:48,681 --> 00:06:52,801 Speaker 3: have goodsman after training, and then we go home. I went, no, Goosman, 140 00:06:53,001 --> 00:06:55,161 Speaker 3: cook your own dinner, Sam, do not cook her a 141 00:06:55,161 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: single thing. She can cook her own dinner. 142 00:06:57,081 --> 00:06:59,241 Speaker 1: I just literally picked up my bag I said, I'll 143 00:06:59,281 --> 00:06:59,801 Speaker 1: in that note. 144 00:06:59,801 --> 00:07:01,561 Speaker 3: I'll drop them an email and let them know that 145 00:07:01,601 --> 00:07:05,521 Speaker 3: you're not attending tonight because you threw a tantrum and 146 00:07:05,561 --> 00:07:07,561 Speaker 3: you're too lazy and uncommitted. 147 00:07:07,841 --> 00:07:10,041 Speaker 1: But I'll let them know that that's it. She's good. 148 00:07:10,081 --> 00:07:10,881 Speaker 1: I don't even care. 149 00:07:11,081 --> 00:07:13,841 Speaker 2: I love the So you were like, yeah, okay, fine, 150 00:07:13,921 --> 00:07:16,601 Speaker 2: But then in your mind you're getting more and more 151 00:07:16,641 --> 00:07:19,641 Speaker 2: annoyed at the fact that that's exactly what she wants 152 00:07:19,721 --> 00:07:21,481 Speaker 2: to do and she can't be bothered to get a netbule, 153 00:07:21,561 --> 00:07:24,601 Speaker 2: and you planned your evening and you around her, and 154 00:07:24,641 --> 00:07:27,921 Speaker 2: you probably paid for it too, paid for Yeah, and 155 00:07:27,961 --> 00:07:29,801 Speaker 2: so you get more and more annoyed, and then you 156 00:07:29,841 --> 00:07:32,841 Speaker 2: just throw out the extra little lines of punishments, like 157 00:07:32,881 --> 00:07:35,201 Speaker 2: you're not getting any good money games, we're not cooking. 158 00:07:35,241 --> 00:07:37,601 Speaker 1: No, she said, She goes, that's fine, Dad will just 159 00:07:37,601 --> 00:07:42,961 Speaker 1: buy us guzman. Oh yeah. Dad was like. Oh. I 160 00:07:43,001 --> 00:07:43,841 Speaker 1: was like, I don't care, bro. 161 00:07:44,681 --> 00:07:49,361 Speaker 3: If you're not buying that, there, buy her and reward 162 00:07:50,001 --> 00:07:51,761 Speaker 3: rewarding a dog for biting someone. 163 00:07:51,921 --> 00:07:53,481 Speaker 1: You have a bone, you bit someone. 164 00:07:53,681 --> 00:07:57,201 Speaker 3: No, it doesn't work like that, I said, and bed tonight, 165 00:07:57,361 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: lovely chime of eight o'clock. See you later, I'm going 166 00:07:59,801 --> 00:08:02,441 Speaker 3: to take myself to the Cairo. I might see a 167 00:08:02,481 --> 00:08:04,881 Speaker 3: movie on the way home. I might go to dinner. 168 00:08:05,161 --> 00:08:08,161 Speaker 3: I don't know. But I don't care about any of 169 00:08:08,201 --> 00:08:11,001 Speaker 3: this or any of you right now other than myself. 170 00:08:11,161 --> 00:08:12,841 Speaker 3: And so I just walked out the door and then 171 00:08:12,881 --> 00:08:14,681 Speaker 3: I got in the car and I text my sister 172 00:08:14,721 --> 00:08:17,601 Speaker 3: in law, who also goes to Netbuln, and was like, sorry, 173 00:08:18,041 --> 00:08:22,041 Speaker 3: not attending netbook tonight. Elsie's an asshole, And I'm going 174 00:08:22,081 --> 00:08:25,321 Speaker 3: to take myself out for a night of whatever I want. 175 00:08:26,361 --> 00:08:29,521 Speaker 3: Went to the Cairo, went to Indro, wandered around, did 176 00:08:29,561 --> 00:08:34,361 Speaker 3: a spots shopping, took myself for dinner. Good I'm nosing 177 00:08:34,481 --> 00:08:36,641 Speaker 3: in at about nine ninet thirty. Didn't want to talk 178 00:08:36,721 --> 00:08:39,161 Speaker 3: to them, didn't want to look at them, went to bed. 179 00:08:39,481 --> 00:08:43,161 Speaker 2: I think it's really nice doing those like little impromptu 180 00:08:43,361 --> 00:08:45,201 Speaker 2: like I don't think it's nice the shit that you 181 00:08:45,241 --> 00:08:47,121 Speaker 2: had in the lead up to it, but to be 182 00:08:47,201 --> 00:08:49,881 Speaker 2: able to just go, you know what, because I don't 183 00:08:49,921 --> 00:08:52,721 Speaker 2: think we do that enough. You've taught me a bit 184 00:08:52,761 --> 00:08:55,601 Speaker 2: more over the years that that's an okay thing to do. 185 00:08:55,961 --> 00:08:58,961 Speaker 2: And I think there would be a lot of mums 186 00:08:59,361 --> 00:09:03,001 Speaker 2: listening that would also be like, oh, I can't do that, 187 00:09:03,321 --> 00:09:04,681 Speaker 2: you know I can't, Yes. 188 00:09:04,601 --> 00:09:06,801 Speaker 1: You can. I can. 189 00:09:06,961 --> 00:09:09,721 Speaker 3: Another thing, Katie is like that whole age appropriate like 190 00:09:09,761 --> 00:09:13,201 Speaker 3: an age awareness thing. Look afterwards, when you think about it, 191 00:09:13,241 --> 00:09:15,241 Speaker 3: like I sit there and I tend to like reflect 192 00:09:15,281 --> 00:09:17,121 Speaker 3: on it and go like, yeah, maybe I threw a 193 00:09:17,201 --> 00:09:19,561 Speaker 3: tantrum just as much as she had a tantrum. But 194 00:09:19,641 --> 00:09:21,281 Speaker 3: then like, you know, you could look at it it 195 00:09:21,281 --> 00:09:23,201 Speaker 3: that way, but then the other way, it was like, no, 196 00:09:23,321 --> 00:09:28,161 Speaker 3: I needed to remove myself from the situation in order 197 00:09:28,281 --> 00:09:31,561 Speaker 3: not to continue in the same Like, if I stayed there, 198 00:09:31,641 --> 00:09:34,521 Speaker 3: the trajectory of that fight would have just gotten bigger 199 00:09:34,561 --> 00:09:37,681 Speaker 3: and bigger and meaner and harsher, and words would have 200 00:09:37,721 --> 00:09:39,081 Speaker 3: been thrown that I don't want to throw. 201 00:09:40,001 --> 00:09:42,121 Speaker 1: I needed to walk away. I needed to go and 202 00:09:42,161 --> 00:09:43,681 Speaker 1: do what I needed for me. 203 00:09:44,121 --> 00:09:47,561 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did something similar recently too. We talked 204 00:09:47,561 --> 00:09:50,001 Speaker 2: about it on the podcast. I actually went to the 205 00:09:50,001 --> 00:09:52,601 Speaker 2: extreme of leaving the house and staying in a hotel 206 00:09:52,721 --> 00:09:55,841 Speaker 2: overnight so I didn't have to face my children and 207 00:09:56,441 --> 00:09:59,681 Speaker 2: the horrible argument that was just getting worse and worse 208 00:09:59,721 --> 00:10:02,921 Speaker 2: and worse. That would have got even worse, and so 209 00:10:03,241 --> 00:10:05,041 Speaker 2: you know, the moral of the story for our kids, 210 00:10:05,121 --> 00:10:07,201 Speaker 2: As you become a nightmare, we'll just leave. 211 00:10:07,441 --> 00:10:12,241 Speaker 1: We're left, goodbye, We're out. Were they in a hotel? 212 00:10:13,121 --> 00:10:16,121 Speaker 3: Living life large without you?