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Speaker 1: Do you know John Brown's for a harder man. We've

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Speaker 1: got co Sons and Campbell Brown the precent agreement for

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Speaker 1: Campbell and the Cub depart ways.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Brownies Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Well we're almost there. It's a marathon, but the penultimate round.

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Speaker 3: There you go, brown Dog. I just wanted to say

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Speaker 3: the word the penultimate round is in the books of

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Speaker 3: the AFL season.

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Speaker 4: And wasn't it a cracker?

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Speaker 3: My Brisbane lines were back in town the Collingwood Magpie.

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Speaker 3: Still a lot of questions to be asked. Your team

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Speaker 3: just like shelling peas Brown Dog or one of your teams,

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Speaker 3: and your other team was a bit disappointing.

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Speaker 4: How is your weekend? Dog?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, weekend was magnibus and I loved what foot he

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Speaker 1: produced this week because there was a couple of potential

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Speaker 1: premiership continuents just flexing their muscles saying, hey, we're not

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Speaker 1: out of the race yet. And that was Brisbane who

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Speaker 1: were outstanding in the West. And I thought, I thought,

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Speaker 1: gw ware, I know that the Sons are their bunnies.

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Speaker 1: I think the Sons have only beaten them five times

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Speaker 1: out of twenty one games in their history.

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Speaker 4: Fifteen now the last sixteen. Yeah, so Giants one.

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Speaker 1: So the Giants, but without string up and without Hogan,

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Speaker 1: you're thinking where the goal is going to come from.

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Speaker 5: But they were brilliant, So Harry roused and yeah, big Harry.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it was good.

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Speaker 3: And my boys unbelievably Brisbane only this road record. They've

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Speaker 3: only lost three of the last twenty one games on

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Speaker 3: the road. It's an extraordinary record for you to starteen

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Speaker 3: brand dog.

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Speaker 1: Why are they doing that on the road and then

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Speaker 1: going up to the Gabba and not.

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Speaker 4: Being as good?

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Speaker 3: You know, they actually kick well for goal on the road.

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Speaker 3: Funnily enough, this year they've been inaccurate, but there are

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Speaker 3: some great games in their brand Dog. You tell a

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Speaker 3: great story, mate, But I've started to work out why

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Speaker 3: you absolutely nailed the details. You nail the sequencing and

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Speaker 3: nail the timing because you just keep perfecting still one

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Speaker 3: after the other, because you just go, like on a

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Speaker 3: podcast tour around the country, just gradually refining these stories. Now,

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Speaker 3: you told a story on our podcast a couple of

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Speaker 3: weeks ago about playing poker with Dice and Daniels Well

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Speaker 3: bugging me dead, and I was American Aces this week

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Speaker 3: made I'm listening to the same thing. I hang on

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Speaker 3: a minute of mine listening to Brandi's podcast, or am

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Speaker 3: I listening? I was American Aces there with Tommy Sheridan

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Speaker 3: because word for word, the dog has come up with

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Speaker 3: a great barrier thief.

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Speaker 4: Again, different audiences, JB.

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Speaker 1: So it's a bit like going around telling doing the

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Speaker 1: sporties around the country.

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Speaker 4: When you've got a different club, different audience.

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Speaker 1: You can relay the same story and each time you

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Speaker 1: tell it you should just perfect it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I definitely told it better on I was American Aces

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Speaker 4: I did on ours. But no, you're right, you're right.

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Speaker 4: I got caught out when they clipped that up last night.

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Speaker 1: But just filling in for Tommy Sheridan while he was

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, I heard he took a big set of

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Speaker 3: sunglasses over there because he's sponsored by a sunglasses company

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Speaker 3: I think Rix Rix, that's right. And he got a

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Speaker 3: special made pair for a Shack, didn't he.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they did, and Shack apparently really enjoyed him. So

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Speaker 1: looking forward to that coming out.

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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what, JB. We see he's got

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Speaker 4: a sponsor yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: The footy was great, but it's probably been overshadowed a

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Speaker 1: little bit and the headlines over the next few days

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Speaker 1: will all be around the Isaac rankin homophobic slur that

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Speaker 1: has allegedly occurred on Saturday night. Now, if that's the

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Speaker 1: case and the AFL Integrity Unit of looking into it,

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Speaker 1: that could be Isaac season over and potentially massive ramifications

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Speaker 1: for Adelaide and their premiership too.

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Speaker 6: It well, I don't think they can win it without him.

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Speaker 3: I think he's the most important player along with Riley Stillthorpe,

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Speaker 3: I just I'm not sure I could see a way

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Speaker 3: the last eighteen months, two years, isn't there with players

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Speaker 3: He's worth more than a home and away but I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure it flies if the AFL said I will

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Speaker 3: especially with his moral decision coming up. So it's a

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Speaker 3: big day for the Adelaie cras a big couple of

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Speaker 4: They'll be working furiously behind the scenes.

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Speaker 3: But dog, I'm not sure Adelaide Cris can win the

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Speaker 3: flag without Isaac Rankin.

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Speaker 4: No. I agree. He's the X factor.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that can bob up and kick a

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Speaker 1: be if he's found guilty, it'll be at least four

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Speaker 1: weeks because the numbers have suggested you will. Powell got five.

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Speaker 4: We're a little bit leaning.

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Speaker 1: We were a little bit more leaning on that because

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Speaker 1: So there's been a spate of four or five in

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Speaker 4: But I can't see him playing again this season. I

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Speaker 3: if it's down in the similar line, he's found to

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Speaker 3: clearly him and Isaac Kliner, which is allegedly the target,

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Speaker 3: they were going at each other. The whole game is

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Speaker 4: But Jesus, a big story. I don't think we've used

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Speaker 3: From now on, it's a big, big storyline, big storyline. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we've done our legal courses this year, dog, so actually

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Speaker 4: But I didn't rock up to that class.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Isaac didn't like the after shave that that.

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Speaker 3: That you know that he's a big fragrance man, Isaac Quainna.

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Speaker 6: So there's different rumors going around and all these.

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Speaker 4: Sorts of things.

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Speaker 3: So I guess the full story will come out in

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Speaker 1: But it is a massive if you're massive Tex Walker

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Speaker 1: get himselves a top two finish, a home final. You'd

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Speaker 1: play finals and you can't afford to be missing. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's not an injury that you know. You look at

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Speaker 1: it and you go, well, there's not much we could

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Speaker 1: This is very preventable and self sabotaging of him if

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Speaker 1: he is found guilty and rubbed out, it's career.

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Speaker 3: It's career, fantastic, fantastic use to the use of the

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Speaker 3: phrase self sabotaging.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they.

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Speaker 1: Know it could self sabotage more in life than me,

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Speaker 1: can you imagine?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: So they go, they go through the finals and they

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Speaker 4: Part of it? Right, You're forever not going to be

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Speaker 1: And if they do make the Grand Final and losing

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Speaker 1: you know, if if he was playing, we could have

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Speaker 1: He'll be devastated, and it's not something that could potentially

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Speaker 1: you forget about, you know, say, it'll be a long

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Speaker 4: Be so careful, don't you dog?

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Speaker 3: Though, But you can't say you haven't had warning if

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Speaker 3: it did occur what's been reported, you just there's this

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Speaker 3: no excuse for it, is there. So I can understand

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Speaker 3: potentially if nothing no incidents like this had happened in

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Speaker 4: You can just completely stay away from it.

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Speaker 3: Even if you were that way incline before things changed,

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Speaker 3: had clear warning and you're right, they're just self sabotaging

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Speaker 2: Will we see a day Obviously, homophobic slur, racist slurs

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Speaker 2: getting too personal or there's really bad languages used towards

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Speaker 2: of just not tolerated the game at all.

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Speaker 5: The things.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it happens. I don't think these in

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Speaker 3: this age. And to be honest, brown dog, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: I certainly I don't think across the line. I don't

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Speaker 1: I definitely back in the day twenty odd years ago,

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Speaker 1: when before sexual vilification that came in, you'd throw it around.

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Speaker 5: But that's as soon as it came in and.

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Speaker 4: High horse, that's right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's been there been a lot more education, hasn't.

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Speaker 1: There And twenty years like, there's a different society now,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, what is acceptable and what's

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Speaker 1: not so? Umpires Well, the thing is they don't hear

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Speaker 1: a lot of it, you know, because they're off doing

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Speaker 1: the umpire, that they will they will make reporter right.

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Speaker 4: But often you know, ford.

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Speaker 1: Pocket versus back pocket, niggling a bit of chat back

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Speaker 1: and forth umpires won't hear it, you know, And there's

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Speaker 1: still there still needs to be a place in the

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Speaker 1: But the line is, you know, obviously no religious vilification,

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Speaker 1: so that that was something new that came in I

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Speaker 1: think on the back of Shane Parker getting philified because

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Speaker 4: For free man.

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Speaker 1: And then and then obviously racial stuff's been around forever

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Speaker 1: all right, you just know not to go down that path.

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Speaker 1: So for the fact that it's reared its head three four, five,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know why. I don't know why, but

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Speaker 6: Of the game, in the head of the game.

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Speaker 4: It's really unfortunate, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I, uh, yeah, it's just gonn me

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Speaker 3: wonder follow But it seems clear cut to me if

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Speaker 3: fact that the case, I can't see him playing again

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Speaker 1: All right, JB, We've got the big AFL issue out

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Speaker 4: Now it's time for the meat tray.

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Speaker 6: Meat tray Monday.

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Speaker 3: Just like to start off with a bit of a mate. Well,

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Speaker 3: it's similar to me try it's a raffle. So I

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Speaker 3: So I'd actually had a on the Gulf the day before,

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Speaker 3: I lashed out. I'd five for twenty bucks and bugging

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 6: They're always best to just go that little bit extra.

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Speaker 6: Just stretch yourself, dog, stretch yourself. Don't go the two

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Speaker 4: I'm glad I did.

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Speaker 5: Be there to receive the prize.

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Speaker 4: Otherwise it goes to the next month.

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Speaker 3: So well, you're right about that because clearly I wasn't there,

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Speaker 3: the indigenous art wasn't there, so they said, well you

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Speaker 4: It to you.

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Speaker 3: What the fuck was I doing? I was seeing at

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Speaker 3: the teometry box of the Golco Suns. But anyway, there

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Speaker 3: you go.

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Speaker 4: Goodness a little bit people, Just stretch yourself. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Now it's time for the next lot, and that's the

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Speaker 3: Barosca reds Now. Clearly things have been what's occurred in

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Speaker 3: the last twenty four hours, it's been unfortunate for the

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Speaker 3: Saint Hugo And that's the Adelaide Crows because they are

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Speaker 3: the minor Premiers Brown Dog. We don't often go into

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Speaker 3: but it was a good effort, especially considering the thirty

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Speaker 3: seven inside fifties on Saturday night to Collingwood seventy one

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Speaker 6: So that's a buddy great effort. The Adelaide back.

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Speaker 3: Line very underrated, no name back line almost they held

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Speaker 3: up magnifmously didn't it didn't they say they do finish

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Speaker 3: obviously of the Isaac grank and stuff. This makes it

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Speaker 3: team in the modern era to go straight into a

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Speaker 3: final series and win the Grand Final? Hasn't been done

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Speaker 3: Dog since the AFL. Since nine ninety it's been in existence.

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Speaker 3: A core team, the core of a team has gone

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Speaker 1: Well, first off, you've added some beautiful reds to the

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Speaker 4: I think they can mate. I've seen now for about

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Speaker 1: They have a Premiership defense and it's not a high

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Speaker 1: Lannie is a star Warrel will be all Australian this year.

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Speaker 1: The irishman who's at his second club was absolutely making him.

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Speaker 1: Hinge does some really important roles down there. Butts I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's playing at the moment, but he's a

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Speaker 1: solid citizen. So Mari, they're a really good side. And

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Speaker 1: the fact that Colinwood had seventy one inside fifties that's

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Speaker 1: a demolition to thirty seven. You win that game of

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Speaker 1: you have seventy one inside fifties to thirty seven. But

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Speaker 4: And got the job done.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think absolutely Adelaide can put themselves in

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Speaker 5: But I also think there's five or six sides at

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Speaker 1: If everyone plays at their absolute best, they can all

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Speaker 1: win it. Because the Giants' best is good enough.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that things have started to level up

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Speaker 1: Brisbane's best is good enough. We've obviously spoken about Adelaide.

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Speaker 1: Best is good enough. The Dock, the Doggies, the best

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Speaker 3: I think the I think the Giants' best is the best,

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Speaker 3: so it's just whether they can replicate it enough or

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Speaker 3: consistently enough. They've got key players to come back in,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be I wouldn't be bitterly disappointed if I

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Speaker 3: the fact was they just didn't take a few opportunities,

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Speaker 3: if you're Craig McCrae. You're a hell of a lot

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Speaker 3: more positive. And he looked like in the press conference

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit of their mojo back to and

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Speaker 1: So we know that they're good enough. They just have

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Speaker 1: in Jack Buckley. A lot of people go, he's not

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Speaker 1: no great I'll tell you what, he's not far off

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Speaker 1: it him and Sam Taylor down back at unbelo.

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Speaker 4: You've got Josh.

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Speaker 1: Cally, who's best might be behind him, but he's still

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Speaker 1: an unbelievable player. You've got Stringer who before he did

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Speaker 1: And Jesse Hogan Danielsiels Daniels is probably the most important Daniels,

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Speaker 1: Tom Green's just Kenelio.

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Speaker 4: Starting hit his straps.

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Speaker 3: So you know they get Brett Daniels which I'm reliably

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Speaker 3: informed he'll play this week against They're the sleeper. The

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Speaker 3: go the tender and that has to be Harry Shechesel's

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Speaker 3: fifty four disposals amazingly tied Tom Mitchell in his brown

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Speaker 3: Law year in twenty eighteen for fifty four disposal and

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Speaker 3: that's the all time AFL record Brown Dog six clearances,

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Speaker 3: two goals, six hundred and eighty three meters game, fifteen

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Speaker 3: scorer involvements, So one of the best young tender cuts

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Speaker 3: of meat, and that is Lee tender loin now Dog.

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Speaker 3: The reason I'm bringing this up because we're not going

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Speaker 4: They only beat Richmond.

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Speaker 6: But can you remember what your highest disposal game.

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Speaker 4: Was and run us through it? Yes? I can.

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Speaker 1: It was against Port Adelaide in two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 1: I had twenty five touches, glorious touches and after the

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Speaker 1: my mate, career high twenty five.

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Speaker 4: I did pretty well.

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Speaker 6: Your eyes painted on it.

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Speaker 1: More than I'm getting twenty five today. But we never

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Speaker 1: because his game was so great.

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Speaker 4: Right, there's a few other players.

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Speaker 1: Whose performances got lost in the wash a little bit

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Speaker 1: who were unbelievable. Tristan Cherry had eighteen tackles as a ruckman,

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Speaker 1: even mentioned him and Luke Davies uniac. Normally, if you

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Speaker 2: So at what point on his way to fifty four,

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Speaker 2: someone on him? Should we try and prevent him from

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Speaker 4: It was a funny one.

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Speaker 3: Was Jack Ross has done that before, hasn't he? For

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Speaker 3: put in.

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Speaker 1: Nick Floston's out with the broken league. So that's the

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Speaker 3: Now, can I just mention something? You're very modest by

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Speaker 3: you brand dog. I'm surprised. But when you went through

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Speaker 3: your highest game twenty five disposals, that's what in round

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Speaker 3: eight and against Port Adelaide in two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 3: You also had another game where you had twenty five

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Speaker 3: it was back in two thousand and six. Early on

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Speaker 4: I couldn't. I can't remember that. Yeah, I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know. Nice story about that game. Nah, I

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Speaker 4: thought I had go back and recall that. I need

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Speaker 4: to what position?

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Speaker 2: Did you even play?

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Speaker 4: Half back flank?

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Speaker 2: I remember seeing you a bit, but I'm like, I

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Speaker 4: Six I was half back flank.

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Never, I never ever. I think in my whole career

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Speaker 1: I had one two center bouncers.

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Speaker 2: So when you were sold from Guy mckinner on coming

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Speaker 2: when you're just going to be just there, lockdown on

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Speaker 4: When you're playing well.

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Speaker 1: After my first yet, after my first year at the

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Speaker 1: Gold Coast, we worked out pretty quickly that I could

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Speaker 1: no longer play back line because of the chopping of

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Speaker 1: the arm rule and the deliberate rush behind rule and

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Speaker 1: like running because I run, because I was asthmatic and

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Speaker 1: couldn't run.

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Speaker 6: Man was a conspiracy.

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Speaker 3: It was someone inside the AFL's conspiracy against Brown Dog.

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Speaker 4: They didn't like you. They started changing rules on you.

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Speaker 1: They did the Geelong players did it the best, right.

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Speaker 1: So every time I went on a bloke, whether it

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Speaker 1: was Stokes or Vaco or Chapman or you know all those,

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Speaker 1: they would go high. They play high because they'd run

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Speaker 1: me aerobically. I couldn't fucking breathe. I'd want to just

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Speaker 1: stand in the back pocket right and just stand on

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Speaker 1: the guy, and they would always run me. So I

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Speaker 1: had to play forward. And then you can sort of

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Speaker 1: choose when you want to run. You can be a

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Speaker 1: bit lazy, you can duck out the back. You know

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Speaker 1: you don't actually have to run a lie.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure the degenerats are listening intently.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they want to hear my most brown dog

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Speaker 3: and that was round eleven, two thousand and five against

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Speaker 3: the Freemantle Knockers twenty nine disposals say Freemantle were easy,

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Speaker 3: weren't they?

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Speaker 4: The two browns running.

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Speaker 3: I was playing midfield there for a few weeks, but

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Speaker 3: I don't really have much to brag about it. I

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Speaker 3: don't think I haven't kicked the goal I played on

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Speaker 3: Maddi Pavlich there for about five or ten minutes.

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Speaker 4: That's my claim to farme. But the best one off.

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Speaker 3: Story in terms of humility and every now and again

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Speaker 3: you just let your modesty just fall by the wayside.

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Speaker 3: And that's the great Lee Matthews, the greatest player in

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Speaker 3: the history of our game.

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Speaker 4: Sitting in a selection meeting.

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Speaker 3: One day, we got a little bit bored, as captain

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Speaker 3: has to go to the selection meetings, and we went

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Speaker 3: I might have told this story before we got bored, right, boys,

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Speaker 3: what was the biggest game you've had? Went round the

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Speaker 3: assistant coaches forty five forty eight. There was a forty

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Speaker 3: two from Craig Lamber, including about forty handballs. I got

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Speaker 3: round a lee. They said, Lee, what was your greatest game?

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Speaker 3: He goes, oh, boys, only at the thirty one disposal?

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Speaker 3: They what thirty one disposed? And you call yourself the greatest.

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Speaker 5: Player of all time?

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Speaker 6: You're kidding yourself. Yes, yeah, I'll kick thirteen.

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Speaker 4: But it's a good comeback, isn't it. Thirty one to thirteen?

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Speaker 6: Just a little reminder, Just a little reminder.

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Speaker 4: So do you reckon? If you're Harry Caese, all right?

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Speaker 4: Are you? Are you grateful that you are now joint record.

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Speaker 1: Holder in the AFL VFL for fifty four or you're

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Speaker 1: a bit pissed off at yourself for not getting the

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Speaker 1: fifty five and being there.

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Speaker 2: You're pissed off that there wasn't just a one two

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Speaker 2: that you gave to a teammate. You go, mate, list on,

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Speaker 2: I'm on fifty. Yeah, just give it back over here.

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Speaker 2: Even if they don't kick it on the four, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Just give me the fifty five.

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Speaker 3: Are you saying it might have been a Mark Taylor

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Speaker 3: situation like where Mark Taylor drew even with a great

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Speaker 3: John Bradman on Throe ound of thirty four over in Pakistan,

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Speaker 3: and he declared out of a shower respect Are you

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Speaker 3: saying that Harry Cheesel as a shower? Respect to Tom

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Speaker 3: Mitchell may have just put the qull in the rack

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Speaker 3: and said I'm getting no more.

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Speaker 4: Once he got to fifty four.

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Speaker 1: He would have grown up idolizing Tom Mitchell, and you know,

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Speaker 1: would have known that fifty four was the number he

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Speaker 1: had to beat. And there was one moment late in.

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Speaker 5: The game where he was about to kick the ball

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Speaker 5: and he.

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Speaker 1: Let Morris really come and tackle him and he missed

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Speaker 1: his boot right, which could have potentially been the possession

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Speaker 1: that got him above fifty four. So now full respect

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Speaker 1: for Harry Sheezel sitting alongside Titch greatness, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Brownie's podcast. You know what time it is, Brod's time

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Speaker 1: for what a world?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: This is an interesting one, right. There's a lady called

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Speaker 1: Lawrence van Wassenhove. She's a frenchwoman trained as an HR

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Speaker 1: specialist Ripe.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: She spent over twenty years on the payroll of.

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Speaker 1: Telecom giant Orange without being assigned any work full pay.

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Speaker 1: Twenty years did no work, right, they reassigned her early

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Speaker 1: on due to some epilepsy issues, so trying to look

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Speaker 1: after it right. She eventually found herself isolated but paid

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Speaker 1: full salary, with no tasks, no colleagues, and she said,

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Speaker 1: no sense of purpose right. She described it not as

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Speaker 1: a privilege, but a silent nightmare that then led to

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Speaker 1: severe depression.

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Speaker 4: So I work. I'd love to work for twenty years

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Speaker 4: and get paid to do nothing, right.

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Speaker 1: Van Wassenhoven sued Orange Right for forced inactivity and workplace discrimination,

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Speaker 1: arguing that being paid and ignored is far from a

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Speaker 1: dream scenario. The case highlights how critical engagement, respect and

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Speaker 1: meaningful roles to workers well being, even with the paycheck coming,

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Speaker 1: is very, very importan.

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Speaker 4: So this bird is taking the absolute piece.

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Speaker 1: She's paid for twenty years to do fucking nothing, and

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Speaker 1: then she turns around and suites him anyway.

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Speaker 5: What a world