1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Fremantle captain Alex Pierce before the AFL Tribunal, facing a 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: three match ban for a collision that raises questions about 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: going back with the Flights. 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: Leading the ladder and restocking with the big guns. Collingwood's 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: Party of five returns for a Friday night showdown with 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: the Hawks and Superstar. 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Tuesday champions and captains Lion Lockingeel and Giant Toby Green 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: joined us song players Nights. 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: We talked about his step into it, debrace all. 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: Of it in the room and Rent it's unedifying for 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: a senior coach to do that. 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 4: They're on the side of Courtia with the brain kape, 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 4: the man on. 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: They played the best footy I've ever seen at the 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: start of the season, and in said president left the 16 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: couple older said he, of course they do. 17 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 4: Is the stuff that legends are made of. 18 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: What is holding the ball? 19 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 3: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now 20 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: that I can do something. 21 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: Wrong, you know, And I need the game and the board, 22 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: sex meet. 23 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 5: The fans, lover and with no fans, no through sixty 24 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 5: year old. 25 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: The players dominate our agenda tonight, gas is Toby the 26 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: greatest Giant. 27 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: Were a little quick spitball about that. I think he 28 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 2: probably is Jeremy Camerck. He's not the games record hold. 29 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 2: He told me that's cal Ward. He's got kel covered 30 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: with all due respects, so I think he is straight 31 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: back at you. He's locky near the best line. 32 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: In the Brisbane era. Yes, probably not because Michael Voss 33 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: falls into Let me. 34 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 4: Just reel off for a bit. 35 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: Two Brown Lows Premiership Captain AFL Poyers Association AFL Coach 36 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: station player, the four All Australians two doing medals form 37 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: Merrit Murray's three Ross Glennings and two Marcus Ashcrofts. 38 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: And could have been enormous with metalists and he might not. 39 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: Be done with good CV, isn't it That is one 40 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: of footy's great sev Yeah. 41 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: Water player, all right, they are with us tonight, so 42 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: we're stacked. Toby Green Lockey Neil. We're going to pose 43 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: the question, shall we just scrap the free kicks in 44 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: the ruck on Razor's edge. 45 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: We're taking Andrew mcqualter's League Fix. If your head didn't 46 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: come away from your body play on. 47 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: David Zita is watching the Tribune as we go to 48 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: air right now Tomorrow nights it's well actually following us 49 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: the midweek tackle Lauren Wood with John Ralph and Corbyn 50 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: middle Mass on all the news that's unfolded across the 51 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: day and as we look towards the next round. Tomorrow 52 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: night is mid season draft night, so we'll keep an 53 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: eye there. John Longmeyer and Adam Simpson on the on 54 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: the demands of the senior coach in the modern era, 55 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: and Beckdanna her it's always a pleasure to have her 56 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: at the desk. Our Tuesdays start with just an out 57 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: and out favorite. 58 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, as you said yesterday, around eleven people get grumpy, 59 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: big mouth starts shooting off everywhere, so it's just relax 60 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: and enjoy this moment. As one of the most refreshing 61 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: things I've seen in footy for a long long time. 62 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 4: It's the Angus and Stuart Clark show. 63 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 6: At the time, you bought some calves off and Grandfather 64 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 6: KP and you didn't have the you had to put 65 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 6: them in the back of the car and you put 66 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 6: them in spot bags to get them back to South Australia. 67 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: That's correct, half a dozen in the back of a barna. 68 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 5: When he left time to come to Melbourne, I was 69 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 5: I had a tears side. 70 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: It's it's changed me a bit. I think he lost 71 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: to work and that's why. 72 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 7: How many family members around you? 73 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: Uh, there's twelve of us here. We got twelve, and 74 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: I think he had a few for his mates. 75 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 8: I know you're gonna be a ten to fifty of 76 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 8: your mates, half. 77 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: A tent and aller. 78 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: We didn't bring him. 79 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: We brought me, GiB. 80 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: You a wood chopper, angus, Did I hear that right 81 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: or not? 82 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm a wood chopper, but yeah, definitely sharing a 83 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: shape him coming out handy on the on the footy field, 84 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: that's for sure. 85 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 4: What sort of would you chop? 86 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: A bit of yellow box? 87 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: No, a bit of stringy bark? Mate? 88 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: Can you get gas coming into a cold winter? 89 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: I'll double the price now. 90 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 4: That doesn't make yet. That was on a Friday night. 91 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: He likes the work. 92 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: That's why that's not going to be up there with 93 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: quote of the year. 94 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: I did google the Brena just to see how now 95 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: discontinued Brownie. She would have been a busy Brena. 96 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 4: Six coats with goats or she's six lambs. 97 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: I think he said. 98 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: Brownie reeled off about eight ways that he was connected 99 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: to Stuart Clark, he worked on his uncle's carrot farm. 100 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: That was the first thing he came out with. So 101 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: they were magnanimously to a double act on Rising Star 102 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: Night too. Now Faigus is the two hundredth game of 103 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: Chris Fading. We couldn't love Faigs anymore, could we? The 104 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: way that this is all unfolding. They called him back 105 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: out just for a moment. They're going to cheer him off. No, 106 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: don't chew down. Just the connection between player and coach, 107 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: a Turndreth game, Premiership coach, elder statesman. The players joke 108 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: about him being the granddad, yet he can get the 109 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: message through when it's required. So this is the sweet 110 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: spuddy I'm sure of. You asked him, he'd just tell 111 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: you that he's an old dog doing his best. But 112 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: he's a marvel. He's an absolute marvel with the way 113 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: he is at the moment now. 114 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: He Cameron referred to him as the old man twice. 115 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: In that was around the song and he was belting 116 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: it out. I do think the one thing he could 117 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: improve on probably is his television craft. As we saw 118 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: in the danes auco interview. 119 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 8: These competition is really really difficult phase just. 120 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: Is his time? 121 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: Is it? What are you doing? 122 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 5: Come on mate, he's looking at me laughing. 123 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 4: That's that adds to the chart, it does. 124 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: It's so great. I'm lucky the old John Shortley top 125 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: of the agenda. One of those tripial cases that has 126 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: set the footy debates are lights at stake? Is the 127 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: short term future of Fremantle's captain Alex Peace as we 128 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: come to decision. 129 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting when I've been trying to sort out 130 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 6: in my head is who has the right to that space? 131 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 6: Is it a guy coming at the ball and the 132 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 6: guy going back from the slight gutifool to. 133 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 5: Go back inside fifty. 134 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: On it into black Pierce going for the footing. 135 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 5: But burn Giants took a heavy hit. 136 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 6: I just see that as a footy act and sympathy 137 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 6: for Burne Jones. You never like to see players gets 138 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 6: up out of the game with concussion. But I'm not 139 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 6: sure there's a lot of two hundred centimeters go running 140 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 6: at full pacing. He's going to take a chest mark. 141 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 5: In the wet he is able. 142 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 6: To do in that situation. 143 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: Pierce's eyes, what are his eyes doing? And I think it. 144 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: Looked like to me his. 145 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: Eyes on the ball the whole way, and then the last. 146 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: Second his eyes realized that there's going. 147 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 6: To be a collision and he kind. 148 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: Of he turns his head and causes his eyes. 149 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 5: To absorb it. 150 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: Even though the players can cast, Peace doesn't deserve three 151 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: weeks for that because it is involved in the play 152 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: of a great gun. 153 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 6: I just know that the captain of the football club 154 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 6: pulls out of that contest early and Burn Jones goes 155 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 6: back in March's uncontested. I feel, Pierce, you'd get through 156 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 6: the side for that. 157 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 8: This is a contact game. We're not going to be 158 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 8: able to legislate contact out. If a bloke gets can cast, 159 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 8: does the other guy need to get through? If Alex 160 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 8: Peace had can cast himself or Burnjo's had to can 161 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 8: caust Pierce, would Burn James have got three weeks? 162 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: I mean, where's this going to handle in the short term? 163 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: Will end in the next ninety minutes or so before 164 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: the AFL champion or David Ziza is watching this case, David, Welcome, Hello, 165 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: Jared Hallo, Gary, what have we seen so far? Well, 166 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: very little, to be honest, Jared. 167 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 7: But Alex Pierce has been called to give evidence, so 168 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 7: as we expected he will try. 169 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: And make his case. 170 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 7: Now the doctors are arguing this was not a reportable offense. 171 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 7: They're saying that this was a conduct that wasn't unreasonable 172 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 7: in the circumstances. He was reasonable at all times and 173 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 7: at no point sought to commit a reportable offense and 174 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 7: did everything he could to avoid it. So Pierce giving 175 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 7: evidence now, and we expect him to walk us through 176 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 7: this incident. And really the fact that Pierce does feel 177 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 7: like he's hard done by. You heard Justin Longman will 178 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 7: say last night, who has the right to that space? 179 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 7: That's the real key incident here. Patrick Danmesvill gave evidence 180 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 7: of course in a Sam Welsh case laughter and that 181 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 7: worked a great effect. Given how Eliq when he is 182 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 7: Alex Piace also can certainly make his case. So he 183 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 7: has to commit to the tribunal he didn't commit a 184 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 7: reportable offense. This is going to be three weeks or zero. 185 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 7: That's just how it's going to play out. You can 186 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 7: have your misgivings and how the system works, but it's 187 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 7: three or zero. The impact virtually no chance of getting downgraded. 188 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 7: So they're going to talk through how this worked. 189 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: Now. I just think a. 190 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 7: Really interesting case from last year was Toby Green and 191 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 7: Jordan Boyd. Now in that case it was relatively similar. 192 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 7: The tribunal found that if a player has ceased to 193 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 7: attempt to mark prior to impact, and he's bracing for 194 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 7: impact in circumstances such as this, then that player is 195 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 7: not contesting the ball. So that's an interesting case. When 196 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 7: it comes to this one. Alex Pierce could argue he 197 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 7: didn't brace at any point, he didn't attempt to break 198 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 7: at any sense, So this is the interest he can 199 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 7: see and talking through how it's a bit different to 200 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 7: this one. 201 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: Now Peace will. 202 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 7: Argue he didn't attempt to turn his body and all 203 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 7: he did was realize there was going to be contact 204 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 7: at the last second and almost open himself up to 205 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 7: the contact in a bid to avoid any more significant 206 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 7: injury to Darcy Burne Jones. 207 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: We know, of course he did suffer a. 208 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 7: Concussion, but stimately that's what the case the Peace will 209 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 7: try and make. It might be a lengthy hearing given 210 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 7: the AFL's givings. They say this was a reportable offense 211 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 7: and it wasn't reasonable. 212 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: In the circumstances. 213 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 7: Again, it all comes down to what is reasonable and 214 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 7: what is a player expected to do in Alex Pierce's 215 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 7: situation and potentially in Darcy burn Jones's situation. 216 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: We'll have a bit more. 217 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 7: Clarity in the coming hours as to what you can 218 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 7: and can't do on a football field. 219 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: All right, we'll get the details of that before our 220 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: show has done. David, thank you. Have you been pondering 221 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: the justin Longmuller questions, who has right to that space 222 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: when players are coming from polar opposite direction. 223 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think whoever gets there first. It's basically my answer. 224 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to take out the ability of someone 225 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 2: under You call it running with the fly. It's just 226 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: trying to win the footing with eyes on it, and 227 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: it's whoever gets there first has the right and then 228 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: whoever's next test to make. And this is where this 229 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: is such a split second thing. It's a couple of 230 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: points there. I think Adam Kingsley's points reasonable his eyes 231 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 2: on that contra and so your proof of vision says, yeah, 232 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: I know he's there, I can see him coming, but 233 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: I'm watching the footy because I'm legitimate about taking the mark, 234 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: and that didn't become apparent. His actions then were different 235 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 2: to Toby's where Toby cover it up. And you know, 236 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: I think once he cover it up, then that could 237 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 2: be deemed to be unreasonable. 238 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: And I do take it not exception. 239 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: I don't agree with Justin who said that he would 240 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: be crucified if he pulled out of that. I think 241 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: the comment tear it, which is us and the broader 242 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: football public have got to that conclusion now where no, no, 243 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: we don't. We're not going to crucify a play if 244 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: he decides the discretion is the better part of valid. 245 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: Now if you pull out, you know, in the old 246 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: fashioned sense, then yeah, you'll be still pretty harshly judged, 247 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: but not in the when we now know with the 248 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: guy the head over the footy where it used to 249 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: be open. 250 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: So the charge in the player will just stop. 251 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: And hover and we don't condemn them for that, Jared, 252 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: So I will take a little bit of exception. 253 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so the game demands that in the last three 254 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: steps you modify your approach if you're going to be 255 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: second to the ball, and a lot of that will 256 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: get tested again tonight. 257 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: I was do you think that was unreasonable? 258 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: But Alex peer my gut feeling, I know why he's 259 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: been charged because at the moment of contact, he's not 260 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: contesting the ball. Did he fulfill his duty of care? 261 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: I actually think at the end he does fulfill his 262 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: duty of care. So as opposed to he goes lacks 263 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: as best as he possibly can to minimize the impact 264 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: that's going to happen. So is that you know in 265 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: the dangerous table, if you're released one arm at the 266 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: last second, that's enough to fulfill your duty of care. 267 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: That's where if Pierce is compelling in the evidence that 268 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: he gives, that's the chance that he's got he's going 269 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: to miss on the was he contesting the ball and 270 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: the moment of impact? 271 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: And there is this as David just told us, there's 272 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: no there's no leeway. 273 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 4: It's three or nothing. That's the other part of this witch. 274 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: Wace in this In this instance, I think that's okay. 275 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: This is either guilty or not guilty. 276 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: I don't think it's I don't think it is. 277 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: I think you can still be partially guilty of being 278 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: unreasonable not to the three game. I mean, if if it's. 279 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: A week, there'd be outcry, but there'd be half an acceptance. 280 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: Three or nothing. It's got to be leeway. 281 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: Colin Woods, they sit top of the table. They held 282 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: the forts with the matcher. Next man up. 283 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 4: I'm excited about this because I've done a lot of. 284 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: Homework and remember the next five come back. Here's your checklist. Pemblebury, Sidebottom, More, 285 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: Hill and Schultz. 286 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: All good to go. And we're excited for that. And 287 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: you know, we stand here with a great performance on 288 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: the weekend through guys coming and doing the job. And 289 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: then you know, the excitement is that you wake up 290 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 3: in the morning with some really important magnet's ready to 291 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: come back. How's Bobby going to the great Yeah? Yeah, 292 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: I won't go into the details. He wasn't here yesterday. 293 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: It was good to see him around the place today 294 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: and train well and moving some stuff that he needed 295 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,599 Speaker 3: to move. So delicate situation, but we're wrapped to have 296 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 3: him backt the club. 297 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: You know, already to be of album playing. 298 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's fitting vilable to play. 299 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 300 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Actually he got an injury that potentially 301 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: helps him. You know that he's had this plan of 302 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: fashion thing that's been grumbling for a long time over 303 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 3: twelve months, and he's pretty much snapped all that now, 304 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: so then he's pain free. He's got a little bit 305 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: of Scotish that may require a week to rest, maybe 306 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 3: two at max and just tating m yes, they can't 307 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: believe the difference in his pain. 308 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: Friday Night footy does shape as a beauty. Gary Lyon, 309 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: I have the pie is brought back. 310 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: You would have been you would have done this, but 311 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: I beat you to it. This is five payers back in. 312 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: Has there been a better five? 313 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 4: Right? 314 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: Eleven hundred and forty eight games comes back in seven Premierships, 315 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 2: two Norm Smith medals, nine All Australian Blazers, seven Copeland Trophies, 316 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: five an Zac Day Medals and I think there's a 317 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: leading goalkicker in there as well. That's I don't know 318 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 2: if there's been a better five that come back in. 319 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: And that with the due respect to Lockeye Schiltz, who 320 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: he didn't add to that all that much. When he's 321 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: going to be a great addition. That is an imposing addition. 322 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: Now it doesn't guarantee anything, of course, but to their 323 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: way they've been playing. And this is a beauty of 324 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: this football side is that they can see us he 325 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: reintroduced players of that ILK but also go to their 326 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: secondary and still get the job. 327 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: So the inverse is they won without all of that, 328 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: which is pretty remarkable in its. 329 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: Own Right now, they're in great they're in such a 330 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: great place right now, and sometimes, you know, not often 331 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: in your football life, you just experience where everything's like 332 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: it's all coming together beautifully and that's where they're that, 333 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: that's where they're there. This time last year Sydney were 334 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: there too. So it doesn't it doesn't guarantee you anything, 335 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: but it guarantees it's a great Friday night against the 336 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: Hawthorne side who got a bit. 337 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: To prove age and experience. Their profile will change a 338 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: bit from one week to the other. Dan McStay is 339 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: edging closer, so he injured the knee and Anzac Day. 340 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: We left that night wondering what his future was be 341 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: It was a mid term injury that's going to cost 342 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: him a big chunk in the middle. But he has 343 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: taken aim at the King's Birthday encounter. 344 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 4: That doesn't that loom as well. 345 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: So it's a good recoverer. 346 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well some players are like that. 347 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: J There are players who got remarkable powers of recuperation 348 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: and others would take a bit longer it. In his absence, again, 349 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: Tim Memory continues to do a job that maybe even 350 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: a surprising Collingwood who went and picked him up with 351 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: the thought I would think that he's going to be 352 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: great backup. We're going to use him through the home 353 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: and away. But he's had to be more than that, 354 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: and he's done a great job. So it'll be interesting 355 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: to see how they structure up with mixed. They are 356 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: not too far away. 357 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: Reference mid season draft tomorrow night. If Craig McCrae had 358 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: his way, we would be heading towards the mid season 359 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: trade period at the halfway mark. 360 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: I'm a big advocate for mid season draft and also 361 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: for the trade Like I say it every year, and 362 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: I think there's opportunities out there for the competition to 363 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: keep growing. And you look at Essen and don't have 364 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: Keith Fords or Keys at the moment. They could benefit 365 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: from a trade period where someone's at another club, potential 366 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: he's not going to any game. And I think the 367 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: ifl continue to keep bringing up every year, hopefully we 368 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: can make some PROGRESSI in that I think it will 369 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: create urgency and energy for teams you know, maybe potentially 370 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: aren't fighting at the top of the ladder or yeah, 371 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: fans are like it. I gives you more stories to 372 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: talk about, hopefully not too far away. 373 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: There is an in principal agreement in the collective bargaining 374 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: with the players to do this, but there was reticence 375 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: from the clubs, particularly those clubs from outside Victoria. So 376 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: the AFL has the right to pursue this, but hasn't 377 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: chosen to yet. I haven't asked you if you were 378 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: yes or a no. 379 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't make much sense to this and can find 380 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: themselves in a parlor situation and have players who are 381 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: there ready to go at another club not getting senior opportunity. 382 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: Imagine Luke Jackson and if saw and Darcie and Luke 383 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: Jackson were playing and they decided that Jackson was their 384 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: man and Darcy became available, of a sudden, there'd be a. 385 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: And you get more in season than you do post season. 386 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, particularly where you're at. 387 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: I mean, if you haven't you're having a season, then 388 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you think and windows just got 389 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: wider for us. 390 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: Let's make the most of it. 391 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: Then you might pay over So that club who's on 392 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: the who's on the other end of. 393 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: It, says, yeah, we'll get extras and we'll benefit at 394 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 4: the next So yeah, I like it. I think the 395 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: mid season. 396 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: Draft is sharply to focus Friday night. When that ball 397 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: gets bounced on Friday night, ned Long's going to steer 398 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: across at joint yugud. 399 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 400 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: If that doesn't put it into focus, then nothing does. 401 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 2: That's going to be awesome. 402 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: And tomorrow night we'll hear stories about just how far 403 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: back you can come from to be on a league 404 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: list across two years, be playing second division in the 405 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: suburbs and be the number one pick tomorrow and night 406 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: is hope. There is hope the Tasmanian Front today. This 407 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: is so interesting is the reassessment on the building of 408 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: the Macquarie Point Stadium has been done. The financials and 409 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: the figure nout is nine hundred and forty five million dollars, 410 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: So that's up one hundred and seventy million on the 411 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: first instance. This is significant because the state budget is 412 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: later this week and the money has to be put 413 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: into it. It's better to know now than to have 414 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: the cost overrun. The skeptics will still tell you that 415 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: this won't be built for less than one point two 416 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: billion dollars, but the rise, the rise and the bill 417 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: right now, so as matters stand, bipartisan support exists for 418 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: the stadium. The draft legislation was published today, or go 419 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: to the Lower House of Parliament in June, a month 420 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: of debate and then the vote in July, where only 421 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: the past or not bipartisan support would see it go through. 422 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: Then to the Upper House where the stadium would need 423 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: two of the independents who probably if the vote was 424 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: held yesterday, you would probably be counting on those votes 425 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: and it would pass through into law and construction would begin. 426 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: So the rise to the price the rendering is the 427 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: sort of the payoff is. It's shiny, it's beautiful, it's 428 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: going to be fantastic, it is. But the number, the 429 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: number is a big number. 430 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: The bipartisan support before this latest blowout of one hundred 431 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: and seventy to two hundred million. Anyone that's built a house, 432 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: Jared will tell you that this it just keeps going 433 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: up and up and up. So what's going to be acceptable. 434 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: Is there a cut off here for full support of 435 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: this stadium with an altern live sitting in the wings 436 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 2: saying that we can do it for this. 437 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is the number that they will vote on. 438 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: So that's the important part. There's no smoke and mirrors 439 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: with this. We're not going to vote on a number 440 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: that is outdated. So it's an eyes wide open for 441 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: the leaders of that state to do and then for 442 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: the sport involved. And obviously THEYSI rules is right at 443 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: the front of that. This was Andrew Dillon just a 444 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: short time ago. 445 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 3: Are you losing faith in how much is going to 446 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: cost and slipping away given what they need to deliver together? 447 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 5: Team, Look, there's a lot of work that's gone into 448 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 5: the planning process that's happening now, which will be going 449 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 5: before both houses of Parliament towards the end of June 450 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 5: and early July. We're really confident that the work's been 451 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 5: done and that it's within an envelope that the Tasmanian government, 452 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 5: with assistance from the Federal government and others, will be 453 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 5: able to deliver what will be an incredible asset for 454 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 5: all of Tasmania and a great place for the Tasmanian 455 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 5: Devils to play the majority of their games. Cricketer, I've 456 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 5: in oars about the roof for you at that you 457 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 5: need a roof in that place. We might have to 458 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 5: speak to the head of the Crickets Association on that, 459 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 5: but Look, I know that that can all be worked through. 460 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 5: The stadium needs to be fit for purpose, not just 461 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 5: for football, but for other sports, and I know the 462 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 5: report already refers to ways to mitigate that. 463 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: So is that a softening on the need for a 464 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: roof from your end? 465 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 5: Absolutely not. It will be the requirement under the licenses 466 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 5: for a roof stadium at Macquarie Point with a capacity 467 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 5: of at least twenty three thousand and cricket's been plaid 468 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 5: under a roof here and I'm sure we'll be able 469 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 5: to make that work down in Tasmania. 470 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: So Jared cut through this. 471 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: For a lot of people seeing at home, they're not 472 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: interested in the money of the figures. They're just wondering 473 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 2: whether or not you're going to get a nine eighth 474 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: team in Tasmania. The stance has been from day one, 475 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: no stadium, no team. Benny Gale said so recently as 476 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: last week that we might all be out of the 477 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: job if. 478 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 4: This doesn't pass. Tell us what's happening, tell us what 479 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 4: will happen. 480 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: This will either pass Parliament or not, and it will 481 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: do so in the last week of July or the 482 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: first week of August. 483 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: If it doesn't passes at it superficially. 484 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: Yes, everyone will say absolutely, that is it, and that's 485 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: an unwavering stance. Bennie Gael couldn't have been clearer when 486 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: he said, we'll all be out of jobs. 487 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 2: So you pause then, But so you're saying if they 488 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: blink that, they most still might come back to the table. 489 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: In my heart of hearts, I do believe that would happen. 490 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: It's nobody's preference to get there. But are we going 491 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: to fold the whole idea and cut the state adrift 492 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: forevermore and break all the hearts that have been given 493 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: over to it? 494 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 4: Will they move past them? 495 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: Will the AFL just if they don't, If they can 496 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: all come together and commit to this as a state 497 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: and from a government point of view, will the AFL 498 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: just move past them and say, hey, you had your chance. 499 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: Every public statement is yes. In my heart I believe 500 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: I believe. 501 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 3: No. 502 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 4: Well, they might just sit there and say what aperance 503 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 4: is not true? No? 504 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: Non, God, don't take my word. I don't want to 505 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: cost you your team. 506 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: But this might be their their attitude to say I 507 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: think they're bluffing their we'll just call their bluff. 508 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be it would be a high stakes maneuver. 509 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 4: Don't take. 510 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: Cricket has no rights here. By the way, I'm a 511 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: great cricket man. Cricket has no rights here. They wanted 512 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: nothing to do with the stadium. Don't be putting demands 513 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: on the roof now. Our players are about to join us. 514 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: Toby Green and Locky Neil, two of the greats of 515 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: the competition.