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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Smell and Monty if you knew.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome? Are you in for a treat?
Speaker 1: Aren't you in for a treat? Eyebrow shit coming your way?
Speaker 1: You're lucky.
Speaker 2: Listen. I think it's fair to say I speak for
Speaker 2: both of us when I say there are some really
Speaker 2: horrible things happening in this world right now. Yes we are.
Speaker 2: We acknowledge them, we are aware of them.
Speaker 1: We do not chat about them.
Speaker 2: But no, because I think there does need to be
Speaker 2: spaces where you can switch off from it.
Speaker 1: I absolutely agree, absolutely, because it is it's heavy, horrendous. Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And you should see us before we press record, where
Speaker 1: I was like, how you going? Well? That fucked all right? Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's hit record and then we're like sparkle it.
Speaker 2: Where each other is like Doctor Jekyl and mister Hyde.
Speaker 2: That's so funny. I love it.
Speaker 1: So I didn't see the South Park Special or reboot
Speaker 1: or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't say it either, right, but I saw
Speaker 2: all the news clips that came out of it. Right.
Speaker 2: So the actual episode is called the End of Obesity, right,
Speaker 2: So for people that can't afford OZM pic, they're prescribing
Speaker 2: them Lizo, which is basically, be comfortable with your own body,
Speaker 2: be happy with being a bigger person.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So everyone's talking about it, and at first I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's that's bit shit. You know, that's not fair because
Speaker 2: Lizo then posted a video of herself watching it, like
Speaker 2: one of those reaction videos.
Speaker 1: Right, And what was her reaction? I saw the head
Speaker 1: last two I did and click on it.
Speaker 2: I think she sort of took it okay, like she
Speaker 2: seemed all right about it. I think she's she's aware
Speaker 2: she's a bigger woman.
Speaker 1: Yes, well that's you know, there's no denying it that
Speaker 1: she's a big And she's also done shows on like
Speaker 1: getting dances that are bigger women and stuff, so yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: and she's so body positive. Although she is stripping a
Speaker 1: lot of weight too, is she Yeah, she seems to
Speaker 1: have lost a lot of weight.
Speaker 2: Okay. I think the thing is people feel uncomfortable that
Speaker 2: she does a lot of the things that we wouldn't
Speaker 2: even think twice of if we saw a thin person
Speaker 2: doing it. So she gets on her social media and
Speaker 2: she's wearing a g string and she's twerking and she's
Speaker 2: doing all this stuff. It's almost like that thought of, oh,
Speaker 2: where do you get off doing that? Yeah, you don't
Speaker 2: have this sort of body to do.
Speaker 1: That, but she's sexy as like, yeah, it's isn't it funny?
Speaker 1: I did think that last night because I'm like just
Speaker 1: not feeling that comfortable in my body, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm so programmed to think beauty is thin. Like we
Speaker 1: are so unbelievably programmed, and it's so unhealthy. It's so
Speaker 1: fucked up, But it is just the society. It is
Speaker 1: like in the when I was younger, out of eating
Speaker 1: disorder and stuff like that, so I've always had like
Speaker 1: a form of body dysmorphia and body image problems. So
Speaker 1: then I'm like, get out of that thought because it's
Speaker 1: the slipless, slippery slope for you. But I'm like then
Speaker 1: I got angry and I'm like, fuck, why are we
Speaker 1: so programmed like this? Like I look at people in
Speaker 1: bigger bodies that are comfortable and I'm like, fuck, that
Speaker 1: would be so liberating to just be really comfortable, or
Speaker 1: any size body that's just really comfortable in their body,
Speaker 1: I'm like wow. But we are so programmed just to
Speaker 1: just be like, oh that she's beautiful. Look, then she's
Speaker 1: really thin.
Speaker 2: I wonder when the penny will drop. It's more about
Speaker 2: how you hold yourself and you're the confidence that makes
Speaker 2: you are trying to be you know. And I would say,
Speaker 2: and this is going to sound controversial, and I don't
Speaker 2: mean it too, but I would say that there is
Speaker 2: a level of on either end of the spectrum, whether
Speaker 2: you're too thin or too saying too even sounds wrong,
Speaker 2: but if you are extremely thin or extremely large, health, yeah,
Speaker 2: there are health consequences to both. Yes, let's say if
Speaker 2: you're living a lifestyle that makes you either of those ways.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: But when I was like reading articles and stuff about it,
Speaker 2: I thought those shows like South Park, like Family Guy,
Speaker 2: they're so genius because people are like, oh, ban them.
Speaker 2: They're you know, making fun of disabled people, They're making
Speaker 2: fun of people who are overweight whatever. And I'm like
Speaker 2: they make us uncomfortable, yes, because we watch them and
Speaker 2: we laugh and then we feel that Yeah, after that,
Speaker 2: that's yuck, and it makes you look at your own Oh,
Speaker 2: that's that's probably not right or whatever. And I feel
Speaker 2: like that's the thing with comedy or those shows. It's
Speaker 2: like they hold a mirror up to us and it's
Speaker 2: okay for you to look at it if you can
Speaker 2: laugh at it. Yeah. For some people it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't want to think about that. That's too hard.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a But when you're looking at it on
Speaker 2: a comedy show or whatever, you might sort of be
Speaker 2: a bit more inclined to take in what they're actually saying,
Speaker 2: which is you're laughing at this whatever, poking fun or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I think that deeply into it.
Speaker 2: I know, I think too deeply into everything.
Speaker 1: See I think I laugh and go, that's laugh because
Speaker 1: it's so fucking wrong, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: When something's really wrong, I find it funny, but it's yeah,
Speaker 1: I get how people get offended. But I'm also like,
Speaker 1: you know, one of those people where it's like, when
Speaker 1: you start putting limits on comedy, where do you stop?
Speaker 1: You know? And I think that is there's something free
Speaker 1: in comedians being really fucking wrong town because everything is
Speaker 1: so PC now and you've got to be so careful,
Speaker 1: which is not a bad thing at all. I think
Speaker 1: it's a great thing. But I think there's some relief
Speaker 1: in watching just one person behavior just be fucking wrong.
Speaker 1: I watched the Chris Rock special the other night. Wasn't
Speaker 1: that impressed with it. I was like, this guy's getting
Speaker 1: so many millions of dollars to do a Netflix special.
Speaker 1: It was a streaming thing and I was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: some bits were really funny, but other bits I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that was like three minute monologue and that would have
Speaker 1: been five hundred thousand dollars and that wasn't like good.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I think is irritating with some
Speaker 2: comedians that start out funny when they've got a trademark voice.
Speaker 1: Ah yeah, and he yelled, I'm like, stopping yelling at me.
Speaker 2: I told you that's like that guy that social media.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's really funny. Yeah, stop screaming. You don't yell
Speaker 1: at us, just straight yell. And it's like you've got
Speaker 1: a microphone, so it's your voice is going to get
Speaker 1: out there. But it's his shtick too, obviously, is just yelling.
Speaker 1: He addressed the Will Smith slap and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Oh I did he Yeah, it was quite funny him
Speaker 1: him addressing that. But he was like also saying, how
Speaker 1: if Beyonce worked, I forget where it was. But if
Speaker 1: beyond so they worked at Subway, Beyonce is still ridiculously hot.
Speaker 1: Jay Z works at Subway. Oh my god, it made
Speaker 1: me laugh so much.
Speaker 2: That is so true. That is so true. But in fairness,
Speaker 2: we see Beyonce as Beyonce. We don't see Beyonce when
Speaker 2: she's crawling out of bed. Yes, no makeup in her eyes.
Speaker 1: And she's still us to sit on a toilet and shit,
Speaker 1: and sometimes she'd be constipated pushing. Other times she'd have diarrhea.
Speaker 2: You know, I always think about that whenever I feel
Speaker 2: intimidated by someone. I'm like, they have to wipe their
Speaker 2: ass too. Yes, yes, so we're all the same.
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, I know. Isn't it funny? It does? It
Speaker 1: brings you all actual evil, even playing ground, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: It's the equalizer?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you shove her hand from up your mutski. So
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, have you seen this thirty six month
Speaker 1: campaign which I have because Whipper is kind of behind it,
Speaker 1: pushing it everywhere about raising the legal age of social
Speaker 1: media from thirteen to sixteen. So you listen to a
Speaker 1: podcast with Luke Darcy interviewing Whipper about it.
Speaker 2: So that episode of the Empowering Leaders podcast came out yesterday, right,
Speaker 2: I will put a link in the show notes to
Speaker 2: it because it's actually really good. But Whipper, your former
Speaker 2: co host, is doing this campaign called thirty six Months,
Speaker 2: and what they're trying to do is change the legislation
Speaker 2: around social media legal age. So currently it's thirteen, they
Speaker 2: want to change it to sixteen. I think their tagline
Speaker 2: is get to know yourself before the world gets to
Speaker 2: know you. Right, Yeah, that's good, and it's that sort
Speaker 2: of idea behind the huge epidemic of kids online, the
Speaker 2: bullying and all that stuff and how many kids are
Speaker 2: self harming and suiciding and stuff, because there's no it's
Speaker 2: like this really slippery slope of that's how kids connect now,
Speaker 2: but there's no you know, when you were a kid
Speaker 2: and you had a bad day at school and you
Speaker 2: could come home and you were home.
Speaker 1: Yes, and you had a bit of a break.
Speaker 2: There's no break.
Speaker 1: No, there's no break. But there's none for us either,
Speaker 1: Like I have a thing on my Instagram that is like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, every time you get in, it says, or
Speaker 1: you go to get in, it says, take a deep breath,
Speaker 1: do you really want to go in? I override it
Speaker 1: all the time. I don't know how to get it
Speaker 1: off my phone. Now it's driving me bonkers. But then
Speaker 1: it counts up how many times? And yesterday I was, well,
Speaker 1: twenty four times, twenty four times I went to get
Speaker 1: into Instagram within twenty four hours. Like that made me
Speaker 1: feel sick. As I'm overriding it again, I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: so fucked up. And then but also the kids get
Speaker 1: into those and other people do too, where you know
Speaker 1: your algorithm is so strong that you look up, you
Speaker 1: know something around dieting. Next minute you're in one of
Speaker 1: those vortexes of how to become anorexic and those kind
Speaker 1: of things, which is so terribly frightening.
Speaker 2: I know we had I'll also put a link to
Speaker 2: this in the show notes. We had Susan McLean on.
Speaker 1: Yes, we did the cyber Safety Expert cyber safety cop Yes.
Speaker 2: And she was saying, we don't think of like the
Speaker 2: magnitude of when you hand your kid a phone you're
Speaker 2: handing them the world.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so true. And she also said
Speaker 1: it's not a matter of if a predator will get
Speaker 1: into contact with your kid, it's a matter of when,
Speaker 1: and that terrified me. It's like she's like, every kid
Speaker 1: will come across a predator at some point, so you've
Speaker 1: got to educate them on that. My son isn't on
Speaker 1: social media yet, he's twelve, but I'm gonna just hold
Speaker 1: it off as long as I can. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know when that horse will bolt, but it
Speaker 1: has with the phone, and it's so awful. He was
Speaker 1: like when he was in grade five, He's like, when
Speaker 1: I mean you seven, can I get a phone? And
Speaker 1: it felt like so far away. We were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course. Now he's got it, and I'm constantly like,
Speaker 1: get off your phone, Get off your phone, get off
Speaker 1: your phone. But then I'm like holding my phone while
Speaker 1: I'm telling him to get off.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, me too, me to, but there
Speaker 2: is I think you also have to cut yourself some
Speaker 2: slack that there is a safety element to it. That
Speaker 2: he's traveling for school. Now, yeah, you need to be
Speaker 2: able to get in touch with him or he needs.
Speaker 1: Of those watches, the Apple watches and stuff.
Speaker 2: Now, no, we've got to get them all. Nokia thirty
Speaker 2: two tens. I just play Snakes.
Speaker 1: Place Spake cannot access YouTube. It's a bloody YouTube clips too.
Speaker 1: They're just like bang bang ban mean bang bang and
Speaker 1: they get off and he is like a misery guts
Speaker 1: after it in flux of dopamine, and then it's just
Speaker 1: to nothing. You know, it's so full on. So Demi
Speaker 1: Moore is also everywhere at the moment, she looks fan.
Speaker 2: Tustic, doesn't she. I mean, that's my assumption is she's
Speaker 2: had work done. But whatever she's had done, Godramo work
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing when they just nail it when they
Speaker 1: getados to them, you know what I mean, It's like
Speaker 1: you've exiled it. You look you don't, You just look great.
Speaker 1: I'm so pro it. I am so I know.
Speaker 2: But sometimes that's that's an Instagram tonnel. I get down.
Speaker 2: Sometimes then I will go into these like face makeover things.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, and I'm always.
Speaker 2: Like, oh I wish that doctor was here. I'd see
Speaker 2: if if I could get in touch with that guy,
Speaker 2: maybe I'd do something. But I live in fear of
Speaker 2: getting something done and it not working properly.
Speaker 1: I just am so scared to go under the knife.
Speaker 1: But there is not one, really, one person I think
Speaker 1: besides Chloe Kardashian, who has had a nose job where
Speaker 1: it doesn't look better, like it completely changes the shape
Speaker 1: of your face. It's phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Why do you get to know his job because you're
Speaker 2: looking at big my.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, my nose.
Speaker 2: Actually doesn't bother me that much. You know, there's other thing.
Speaker 1: Whatever, I didn't even know. I haven't even noticed your notes.
Speaker 1: But you know, when people are like, I've got a
Speaker 1: deviated septim, is that what they say to get Oh,
Speaker 1: I've got a deviated septum? Then it's like, no, you've
Speaker 1: come back with a completely different face.
Speaker 2: I've got a friend who's got a deviated septum and
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he said it was from like having
Speaker 2: his nose broken a few times or something, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: is it sounds like a coke? But yes, nah, not
Speaker 2: it's not. But wouldn't it be nice if we could
Speaker 2: just say I don't like how my face looks anymore.
Speaker 1: I know, And then it's like we should all be
Speaker 1: happy with how we look. But then we've got access
Speaker 1: to all this.
Speaker 2: But you know what doesn't make you I still maintain
Speaker 2: I don't think it makes you look younger. It makes
Speaker 2: you look after When there's a when you go too far,
Speaker 2: everyone starts to look the same they do look and
Speaker 2: it's so strange. It's across here. It's I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm just like you just look like in the same
Speaker 2: category of looks. Yeah, it's just odd anyway. So Demi
Speaker 2: Moore's got a new movie out. She's got this new
Speaker 2: movie out. It's a it's called a body Horror. I mean,
Speaker 2: who knows what that is? Well, I don't know, but
Speaker 2: they say she does full frontal in it, full frontal nudity.
Speaker 2: Like I'd watch for that. I'd love to see what
Speaker 2: Demi Moore looks like naked.
Speaker 1: So she's fantastic, fantastic.
Speaker 2: But it's called The Substance. It got a thirteen minute
Speaker 2: standing ovation at Carn't that's thirteen minutes ridiculous your hand
Speaker 2: how so would your hands be clapping thirt minutes?
Speaker 1: That's too much. That's awkward, that's embarrassing.
Speaker 2: It'd like think of how excruciating it is when someone
Speaker 2: sings happy birthday to you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and then times out by you'd get
Speaker 1: you'd get so many happy birthdays in in thirteen minutes.
Speaker 2: And everyone's looking at you.
Speaker 1: That was thirteen minutes and do you think it was?
Speaker 1: That's what was where we're all sheep, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Where somebody done it? And then they
Speaker 1: just they're like, who's going to stop first? No one's stopping.
Speaker 1: Let's keep going like there's no one standing there going
Speaker 1: this is awesome. We're doing this for thirteen minutes. Everyone
Speaker 1: is in excruciating pain and embarrassment.
Speaker 2: It's like, who starts off the clupping.
Speaker 1: I've done that once, I felt and has gone well.
Speaker 1: It went well, And it was at my son's school.
Speaker 1: After the kid, I don't know, one kid got an
Speaker 1: award or something and they were doing quite a few awards.
Speaker 1: So I think some people will save the clap for
Speaker 1: at the end, but I started it for each kid
Speaker 1: and it was.
Speaker 2: Great, and tea were like, we said, can you please
Speaker 2: hold off your fucking claps till the end.
Speaker 1: The power of starting a clap, though, is quite quite phenomenal, yes,
Speaker 1: But the awkwardness of going to start a clap and
Speaker 1: it going awry.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so I've done that?
Speaker 1: Oh have you?
Speaker 2: And you just it's when you don't commit fully, you
Speaker 2: hesitate and then oh just peter out. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: it's horrible.
Speaker 1: I how's this? Once my friend who's a dance instructor,
Speaker 1: had a big concert for all of her students, and
Speaker 1: then she and another girl at the very end did
Speaker 1: a dance and I thought it was phenomenal because I
Speaker 1: love her. It was such a great show. And I
Speaker 1: stood up, I standing ov age, did not her, and
Speaker 1: no one followed. Do you know how lonely you feel
Speaker 1: in a one person standing ovation?
Speaker 2: I can imagine.
Speaker 1: I feel I'm sweating now thinking about it, because I
Speaker 1: remember going, no, no one's following?
Speaker 2: What? And you know the other people in the crowd
Speaker 2: talking to each other, going you know, so damn, it's amag.
Speaker 1: And they would have been squeezing each other's legs, you
Speaker 1: know when you're.
Speaker 2: So she's related. God, that's funny. Well, anyway, listen to
Speaker 2: the concept of this movie. I can tell me it's
Speaker 2: not brilliant. Okay, So Demi plays this former Oscar winning
Speaker 2: actress called Elizabeth Sparkle. How's the name? The name sounds
Speaker 2: shiit already, it sounds shiit no no, but it's Elizabeth
Speaker 2: with an as as well anyway, and so her movie
Speaker 2: career is over. She takes on this TV role and
Speaker 2: then in a tale as old as time itself, they're like,
Speaker 2: you're too old and she looks like Demi Moore. She
Speaker 2: looks like herself, so she looks better than most of
Speaker 2: us at her age. Anyway, she gets the sack because
Speaker 2: no one wants to look at a disgusting ross yuck wrinkles. Anyway,
Speaker 2: So on home, she has a car accident. She's in
Speaker 2: hospital and there's a nurse caring for her, and the
Speaker 2: nurse is like gorgeous and young and whatever, and she
Speaker 2: tells her about this new program called the Substance. It
Speaker 2: allows you to unleash your most perfect self.
Speaker 1: Look wise or just conf every wise.
Speaker 2: Mostly looks wise.
Speaker 1: Though, substance in every r first.
Speaker 2: So she takes it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2: The person who plays her other her is Margaret Qually.
Speaker 2: Don't know where, yes you do. She was the girl
Speaker 2: in Maid, Andy McDowell's daughter.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, beautiful.
Speaker 2: So tall, stunning, slim, no wrinkles like the what society
Speaker 2: would deem the perfect looking person. But the thing is
Speaker 2: Demi and Margaret they can't coexist at the same time.
Speaker 2: So her name is Sue, this alter ego, best version
Speaker 2: of Demi. She has seven days on and Demi is
Speaker 2: like unconscious, you know, in her apartment. And then after
Speaker 2: that seven day cycle they switch. Demi goes back to Demi,
Speaker 2: and then Sue's unconscious.
Speaker 1: So Demi doesn't feel what Suess is feeling. She's just out.
Speaker 2: Well I'm not sure, but.
Speaker 1: She should have to mal because why would you have
Speaker 1: to Why would you go, I'm just going to be
Speaker 1: knocked out for seven days and another girl's going to
Speaker 1: it doesn't That doesn't make sense. I feel like she
Speaker 1: gets to live in debt in Sue's body and be
Speaker 1: that for seven days, and then in her own body
Speaker 1: for seven days.
Speaker 2: This is where it becomes a horror movie because they
Speaker 2: are too separate. It's like they're two separate people. Maybe
Speaker 2: the mind, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. In the mind, Yeah, like a
Speaker 1: freaky Frider, Yeah, but with one mind. Yes.
Speaker 2: But then it becomes Sue the younger one. Yeah, she's
Speaker 2: loving her life, so she wants to kill off Demi. Ah, okay, right,
Speaker 2: so this is where it becomes the horror movie. But
Speaker 2: it made me think Number one, it's a brilliant concept,
Speaker 2: right because that idea of how amazed like going back
Speaker 2: to a time where you're sort of in your prime
Speaker 2: but you don't realize it. Yes, with the wisdom of
Speaker 2: being older thinking. I mean even just for a I
Speaker 2: don't know, six months. Can you imagine having a week
Speaker 2: on and a week of your life, a week on
Speaker 2: as who you are, and then a week off.
Speaker 1: Of just sleeping of someone else? Sorry, got excited about sleeping.
Speaker 2: Being like the younger you young and free?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no kids, no, no, just going out drinking bcadicking.
Speaker 1: Everyone is going nuts and wearing crop tops and socks
Speaker 1: not like anklets, but socks, socks with your runners.
Speaker 2: Oh what's with that? But you know what, I actually
Speaker 2: do think there's something I like the idea of knee
Speaker 2: high socks.
Speaker 1: Oh do I like that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But I'm not wearing the like the crew socks. I
Speaker 2: hate that.
Speaker 1: I reckon it looks like none. I think it looks
Speaker 1: great on young KOTSI tatsis, but on me it looked
Speaker 1: so bad. It looked so bad. I was embarrassed in
Speaker 1: front of myself. Yeah, it was terrible, terrible anyway, that's
Speaker 1: how you can tell a different generation by the socks
Speaker 1: at the moment. All right, everyone, we're out of here.
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