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Speaker 1: The fits in with the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, the most impressive thing, apart from

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Speaker 2: our swimmers who are dominating in the pool at the

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Speaker 2: Commonwealth Games, is outside of the pool. Kate Campbell has

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Speaker 2: been She's been a superstar with the microphone and the

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Speaker 2: insight that we get with her interviews with the swimmers

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Speaker 2: has been magnificent. You can see her on Channel seven

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Speaker 2: and catch all the coverage of the Commonwealth Games with

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Speaker 2: her and she joins us, Now, Kate, your beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: You're there, No, we got it. How you feeling, mate? Like?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know how competitive you are, but what's

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Speaker 2: it like just doing interviews on the side of the pool.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel about do you feel like jumping in

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Speaker 2: every now and then?

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Speaker 1: Kate?

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Speaker 3: You know what, if I had done the work, maybe

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Speaker 3: in my current state, absolutely not, because I get my

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Speaker 2: It really looks like you've blown out too since you've retired.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to say anything, but put on about

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Speaker 2: fifty kilos Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, you know. I've been over in Europe for

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Speaker 3: a couple of months, so there's been a lot of

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Speaker 3: passer a lot of pizza and a lot of beer.

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Speaker 1: I should be there with you. You deserve it, mate.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing that when you train so hard.

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Speaker 2: Your whole life, it's just this is your moment to

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Speaker 2: let your hair down.

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Speaker 1: K Cable.

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Speaker 3: Oh and I definitely have been doing that. I sometimes

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Speaker 1: Oh, don't talk.

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Speaker 4: To somebody in breakfast radio about that. How dare you?

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Speaker 4: What about this? I mean you? We watched it was

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Speaker 3: So it's funny because this year was always supposed to happen,

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Speaker 3: I haven't been in the pool. But yeah, I've always

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Speaker 3: planned to come back and try and contest for Paris

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. Yeah, it just it looks too good

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Speaker 4: So you're just taking a break.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just taking a break.

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Speaker 4: I love love that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, can we talk about the pocket rocket Molly O'Callahan,

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Speaker 2: because you know what, when we see these female sprinters

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Speaker 3: So it's really interesting you say that. Oh yeah, we

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Speaker 3: But Molly's real strength is her kick. It is like

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Speaker 3: to stay as still as possible, hips nice and still

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So it's just all about being as still

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Speaker 3: You just can't see them because they're buried under the cap.

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Speaker 1: That's a waste. That's a real waste. We need to

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Speaker 2: And I know over the years you've been a part

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Speaker 2: It hasn't always been the unity between the team hasn't

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Speaker 2: We've been speaking about this all week about Kyle Chalmers

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Speaker 2: mentally really tough for him. Kate, you're a part of

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Speaker 3: It's a bond that's like no other because you go

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Speaker 3: not only performing, but the rest of the team, those

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Speaker 3: You know they watched all the heats of the fifteen hundred,

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Speaker 3: God bless them, which you know cannot be the most

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Speaker 3: exciting thing, But they did it. Dot, don't tell don't

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Speaker 3: tell us, Brant, How can I said that? But you

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Speaker 3: know they did it because they want to be there

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Speaker 3: to support their teammates. They want to share and their success,

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Speaker 3: And you know, this whole love triangle thing. Yes, it's

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Speaker 3: been it's been hard on Kyle, and he's been vocal

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Speaker 3: about it. But can we say that there are two

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Speaker 3: Emma and Cody, and they have also been battling with

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Speaker 3: different to Kyle. They've chosen to remain silent, whereas Kyle

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Speaker 3: is fighting back. But yeah, it's it's it's sad to see,

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Speaker 3: you know, reports being.

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Speaker 1: Very much sacked.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, we don't have the time to go

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Speaker 4: into the love triangle that you told us about off

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Speaker 4: air that you're in. We'll leave that out, Lawrence. Yeah

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Speaker 4: that was.

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Speaker 1: Kate. Can I just say you are I mean, we

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Speaker 1: want you back in the pool.

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Speaker 2: But it's been amazing with your interviews and your insight

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Speaker 2: outside of the well. You're doing a great job and

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Speaker 2: enjoy yourself over there. Go and eat some more pasta

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Speaker 2: in Europe after this if you can.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much. The only love triangle I'm in is

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Speaker 3: the pasta, the pizza, and the beer between the two

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