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Speaker 1: This is the Fits in Whipper with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 1: We've got a special guest in the studio.

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Speaker 2: Fits.

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Speaker 3: We do have a special guest, Harry Garsi. You would

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Speaker 3: have seen him at the Paris Olympics. He was knocked

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Speaker 3: out and round one of the boxing. But the raw

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Speaker 3: emotion and the god the honesty, the extreme honesty that

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Speaker 3: Harry had to front up in front of that camera,

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Speaker 3: I think blew everybody away. And he now has a

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Speaker 3: brand new book out. It's called The Good Fight. It's

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Speaker 3: available now at all good bookshops and he joins us now.

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Speaker 4: Harry Garside, well, thank you guys, thanks having me in.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I thought us so beautiful about

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Speaker 1: what happened in Paris? If I can take away, I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously you wanted a different result, Harry, but your honesty

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Speaker 1: and how Australia has fallen in love with you was

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Speaker 1: because you gave so much. She gave so much, not

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Speaker 1: only in the ring, but also in sharing your dream.

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Speaker 1: I mean the work you'd done and the commitment you'd

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Speaker 1: made to the sport in yourself in the lead up

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Speaker 1: to the Olympics, like that was the lifelong dream.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy to think that like twenty years two

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Speaker 2: decades is over nine minutes, and I of course not

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Speaker 2: the result that I wanted. But I guess looking back

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Speaker 2: on the twenty year journey, like the man that I

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Speaker 2: have become on that journey, It's like at the start,

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Speaker 2: I was quite nervous and I had this weird ambition

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Speaker 2: that maybe I could walk with giants. And I guess

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Speaker 2: on that twenty year journey, I finally got to a

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Speaker 2: destination where I believe I can walk with giants. So

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Speaker 2: it's a nice journey, nice evolution. And I guess the

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Speaker 2: biggest thing I took from is like, say, set big,

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Speaker 2: audacious goals and they might feel unachievable, but on the

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Speaker 2: journey you end up feeling like you can achieve.

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Speaker 1: But isn't it interesting too though, whether you got a

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Speaker 1: medal or you didn't get a medal. The Olympics was

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Speaker 1: always going to finish, but Harry Garside and the man

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Speaker 1: that you'd become had grown and would always continue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a beautiful thing. I reckon It's like it's

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Speaker 2: like no result, no money. I guess this capitalist driven society,

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Speaker 2: it's like we think that that job promotional, that new

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Speaker 2: house or a new car or the gold medal is

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Speaker 2: going to be the thing that's going to make me

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Speaker 2: feel different about myself. But no result, no job promotion,

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Speaker 2: like makes you a different person. I know who I am,

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Speaker 2: and I guess over the last sort of three or

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Speaker 2: four years, I've really just focused on trying to collect

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Speaker 2: the evidence that I am a good person, that I

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Speaker 2: am a good good man, and then like little moments

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Speaker 2: like say your brother calls you and he needs to

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Speaker 2: chop out, or you make cause you when he's in

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Speaker 2: dire straits and you help them out, like they're the

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Speaker 2: moments that for me, I sort of build respect for myself.

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Speaker 2: And of course Olympics has helped that as well, but

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Speaker 2: it's only a small portion.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the way you're talking now, it sounds

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Speaker 1: as though you needed to convince.

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Speaker 4: Yourself that you were a good person.

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Speaker 5: Are you saying that you doubted that or that you

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Speaker 5: were looking for proof?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, guys, but I'm sure you've

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Speaker 2: met many successful people in your life. And I guess

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Speaker 2: the more that I think about myself and why I

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Speaker 2: want a success, and it's because I felt like I

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Speaker 2: was nothing and I don't know where it stems from

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Speaker 2: and there's probably a number of memories that I could

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Speaker 2: probably think of, But most of my life I thought

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Speaker 2: that it's like these gold medal, these these winning and

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Speaker 4: And they kind of did.

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Speaker 2: I guess throughout the journey, But it's like I won

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Speaker 2: the Commos Games gold medal and I sat in my

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Speaker 2: room after and I felt miserable. I won the bronze

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Speaker 2: medal at Tokyo and I sat in quarantine and I

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Speaker 2: looked in the mirror with the metal hanging on my neck,

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Speaker 2: and I still still didn't like myself. I'm thinking, if

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Speaker 2: that's not a sign that that's not the right path, Well.

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Speaker 4: It's about that's all the external validation, really, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of nothing outside of yourself can change how

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Speaker 2: you feel about yourself. And I realized that finally, thank God.

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about resilience and failure because I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to teach this to my two boys now, Harry, you

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Speaker 3: you admitted that you have had mental demons in your lifetime,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of people will be listening to this

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Speaker 3: right now, Harry and who have the exact same problem.

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Speaker 4: You actually sit in that interview straight.

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Speaker 3: After the box that when you're lost, I'm gonna have

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Speaker 3: some really dark days over the next few months.

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Speaker 4: Have you had those days?

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Speaker 5: And I want to I want to ask you when

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Speaker 5: failure is something like that, it's something as massive as

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Speaker 5: that happens resilience and we talk about failure can lead

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Speaker 4: Or into something else.

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Speaker 3: Can you tell us about some of the dark days

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Speaker 3: you've had since that day and how you've got through it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to be honest, I haven't had too many Day's

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Speaker 2: probably been two or three that I can think of

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Speaker 2: that I've been really low. But this book tour is

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Speaker 2: kind of distracted me a little bit. So I don't

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Speaker 2: know if it's a good thing or a bad thing.

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Speaker 2: But I think in that postmatch interview there was like

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Speaker 2: that fear that I think, if this happened five years ago,

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Speaker 2: where I was like a little bit younger and my

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Speaker 2: whole identity was consumed with that of only being a boxer,

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Speaker 2: I think, I don't know I did fail at five

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Speaker 2: years ago, and just to think what some of the

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Speaker 2: decisions that I made when I did fail, and how

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Speaker 2: low I felt and what I was doing in private

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Speaker 2: to sort of hurt myself, like it was kind of

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Speaker 2: scary to think that I could be there after such

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Speaker 2: a big loss, Like it was so embarrassing and so humiliating.

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Speaker 2: But I guess I don't know if it's growth. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's maturity, maybe a cocktail of everything.

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Speaker 2: But it hasn't happened this time, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I'm waiting for it. I don't know if his

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Speaker 2: book tour is a distraction or maybe I've just grown

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Speaker 2: up and I think, let's hope it's that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: The book is in the distraction. Either it's part of you,

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Speaker 1: and it's part of what you do, So it's not

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Speaker 1: just froth and bubble, you know, it's the existence of

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Speaker 1: the world that you've created. So it's another feather in

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Speaker 1: your cap that you put this book out, which I

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Speaker 1: know is going to help so many people. But can

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Speaker 1: we can we go back to the start of your

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Speaker 1: career and when you were younger. I think I read

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Speaker 1: that you were the smallest out of your brothers. Is

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Speaker 1: that right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm young as the three boys. The runs of

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Speaker 2: the lit up and that's what took you to the

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Speaker 2: like I was so much more connected to my mum,

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Speaker 2: and I think my brothers are real blokeing and what

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Speaker 2: do you see on movies? There's always a men fighting,

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Speaker 2: like that's all men do, right. My dad would always

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Speaker 2: sort of talk about his childhood growing up in England,

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Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, oh no, I'm nothing like these guys.

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Speaker 2: I just felt so soft compared to them. And then

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Speaker 2: I walked into the boxing gym and I fell in

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Speaker 2: love with it. So I'm so grateful I did.

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Speaker 4: I love that story.

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Speaker 3: You've moved to Sydney. Now you moved in to Bondi

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Speaker 3: as well, because you're a country boy. You're a country

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Speaker 3: Victoria boy, aren't you. So you're now down in the beach?

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Speaker 4: Are you can? I ask you this question, because Harry,

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Speaker 4: I think you'd be a great catch. Are you in love?

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Speaker 4: You have you found someone? Or it's funny to say that.

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Speaker 2: So on I woke up news day and I was like,

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Speaker 2: other big Year, let's go like no relationships, just focused

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Speaker 2: on the gold medal, And throughout that process I actually

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Speaker 2: fell in love. So it happens so unexpected unexpectedly, which

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Speaker 2: I think is the best kind of love, like it's

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Speaker 2: someone you're searching for it. It just sort of stumbled

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Speaker 2: into my life. And yeah, she's originally from Sydney, but

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Speaker 2: she's currently living in London, so I'm pretty excited for

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Speaker 2: her to get back at the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, just long distance, long long distance. But she's

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Speaker 2: definitely worth the wait for sure. There's another book in

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Speaker 2: that I reckon, No, there's not. I think it's lovely.

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Speaker 4: You're speaking so respectful. Sorry always.

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Speaker 3: I'm just shouted Kate because I wanted to get him

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Speaker 3: on for traffic dating, but obviously he's got a partner,

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Speaker 3: so we can't get him.

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Speaker 4: Until the end of the year by the sound of it.

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Speaker 4: So I'm around Harry.

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Speaker 1: What's the plan now to keep fit?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just keep fit, I guess. I'm just trying to

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Speaker 2: do as I spoke about like five years ago. The

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Speaker 2: decisions I made when I failed were negative, and I'm

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Speaker 2: just trying my best and do more positive things. So

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Speaker 2: I'm training every day. I'm saying fit. I want to

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Speaker 2: do some triathlons over summer. I love boxing, so I'll

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Speaker 2: always continue boxing. Not sure professional next Olympics, not sure

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Speaker 2: to walk away all together. But I always love doing it,

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Speaker 2: so I'll continue doing it until I.

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Speaker 4: Lose the love for it. For sure. You're good mates

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Speaker 4: with Ned Brockman. You're both sick.

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Speaker 3: You're both addicted to man like so are you doing

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Speaker 3: anything with needed like what?

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Speaker 2: He's just addicted to pain, that bloke. Yeah, I love

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Speaker 2: being around him and him have had. Like we've said

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Speaker 2: about ourselves, we genuinely can't live together. We would send

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Speaker 2: each other crazy like he's sick and I love it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's what we love about him.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: The new book, Harry Garside The Good Fight, Boxing, Ballet

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Speaker 3: and Breaking Stereotypes. It's at all good bookshops now, mate.

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Speaker 3: We are proud of you, brother, and don't ever think

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Speaker 3: a result like that defines who you are. We are

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Speaker 3: proud and what you did afterwards I think resonates more

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Speaker 3: with people than it ever has.

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Speaker 4: So thank you very much for coming in, Harry, Thanks

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Speaker 4: who having me in, Guys.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Legend.

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