WEBVTT - The Media Show | 17 May 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.720 This is the Media Show with Jack. 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.480 Outing, Hello and welcome to the Media Show. Tonight we'll 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:09.760 take a look at what the ABC gets in Lever's 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:14.000 budget and inside fights in the US media. But first, 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:17.279 this week was all about the budget and Lever's lofty 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:19.480 economic promises were in the spotlight. 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:21.439 So how did our media cover it? 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.320 Alban Easy government is copying plenty of flak for its 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:30.000 big spending budget, giving three hundred dollars energy rebates to everyone, 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.520 with cost of living relief for every household. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.839 Jim Chalmers insists this budget isn't about winning votes, but 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:37.240 we'll take that with a grain of salt. 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.200 Treasurer spends big on budget cost of living relief. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:44.320 There's energy bill relief and income tax cuts across the board. 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.440 Every Australian household will save hundreds of dollars on their 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:48.199 power bills. 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.239 And of course there were some slogans which went very 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:53.240 much unchallenged. 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:54.000 For the most part. 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.320 Alberan Easy took to social media to claim we're giving 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.240 every Australian a tax cut. 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.280 So is that true? 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.840 Well, Labor change legislation to ensure that anyone earning more 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:07.559 than one hundred and fifty thousand dollars will pay more 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.840 tax than they would have. It is a pretty important 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.280 detail which meant in the media simply forgot. And aside 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.959 from all of that, because of Australia's inflation crisis, your 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:21.160 wages have been pushed into higher tax brackets, or, as 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.200 Laura Jay's put it on the Sky News panel, inflation 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:28.679 driven bracket creep plundered twenty five billion dollars from taxpayers 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:29.160 this year. 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.880 At the center of your pain is bracket creep. Wage 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:37.160 increases feel like they are amounting to absolutely nothing, So 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.680 look at this chart. In twenty twenty two, bracket creep 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.280 was worth about half of the increase in personal income 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.800 tax eighteen billion dollars taken from households. 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:49.560 This year, income. 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.720 Tax went up by sixty two billion dollars, and about 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.760 twenty five billion dollars of that was due to bracket creep. 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:02.200 This third column shows even with Labour's Stage three tax cuts, 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:05.080 the ree jig Stage three tax cuts, they weren't about 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.320 twenty five billion dollars right, but there are still six 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:12.920 billion dollars worth of bracket creep next year alone. Expect 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.560 the opposition to seize on that. 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.480 We also had a stunt where three hundred dollars of 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:22.400 your money presumably will be paid directly to energy companies 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.280 to lower the power bill. Now, many in the media 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:29.440 celebrating this cash splash have short memories. It all related 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:30.880 to this broken promise. 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.480 Ouseholds will benefit by two hundred and seventy five dollars 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.720 on Apple reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.080 five dollars, prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.040 two hundred and seventy five dollars, two hundred and seventy 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.200 five dollars a year, two hundred and seventy five dollars, 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.960 two hundred and seventy five dollars a year. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.200 If Labor tries to make the claim that it has 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.320 kept this promise because of the one off payment, do 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.840 not fall for the spin. The election policy was clear. 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.799 It was to lower power prices in perpetuity from twenty 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:10.240 twenty five, not artificially lower them once. And this pretty 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.640 much sums up Labour's entire budget. It is a stopgap 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:20.440 measure with very little long term substance. Well, let's bring 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:22.600 in our panel now, and we've got media writer at 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:27.720 The Australian Sophie Elsworth and PR Council's Christy McSweeney. Well, Christy, 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.399 why don't we start with you. What did you make 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.079 of the media coverage that you saw and what kind 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.120 of verdict would you place on the public's reaction to 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:35.680 the budget. 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:41.880 Look, I think the public swide by this false promise 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.360 of we're going to get three hundred dollars. A lot 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.080 of the media reported that it was almost like an 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:51.840 economic stimulus and people were going to receive three hundred dollars. 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:54.200 There's not a lot of people out there who know 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.360 that that three hundred dollars is going to be paid 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.920 to the energy company, not to you, and it's going 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:04.320 to be paid quarterly over two financial years, so it's 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.080 not going to come all once either. And you're right, 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:11.240 jacket is a one off payment. So like all budgets, 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.640 the devil is in the detail. But there's a lot 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.719 of spin on this one. They're framing it as an 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:23.560 economic management good and economic good management budget. But then 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.920 another ten years of deficit after this probably so if 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.120 they want to go to an election this year, they 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.360 can and they can say we've delivered two surpluses and 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.719 people feel really good about getting targeted. And I say 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.719 targeted because not everybody's getting what they should get when 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:44.720 people who are expecting those Stage three tax cuts as 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.800 they were, as they voted for at the election. 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:50.280 Yeah, and that's a pretty big point. 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.000 Now, Sophie, cutting through the spin, how do you think 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.719 the media fared. Were they good at pulling apart some 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:58.839 of the half truths in the budget? 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.360 Well, Jack, they're professionals that this, as you know, I mean, 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.120 we have this every twelve months. 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:09.839 You know, many of us have done budget after budget. 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.920 But it's cutting through all the spin that is the 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.599 key and breaking it down and what it means for you, I, 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:20.840 the viewer, the listener, whoever. But I thought there was 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.080 some great headlines during the week. There was one on 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.320 the front of the head at the front of the 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:29.920 Herald Sun that read jim flation, which I'm not so 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:31.520 sure the Treasurer. 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:32.640 Would have liked that one. 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:38.000 But this three hundred dollars rebate for energy was really 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:42.880 dominating because it's a very simple policy to explain, it's 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.080 very easy for people to understand, and then the headlines 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:47.040 dominate on that. 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:48.960 But let's remind. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:54.080 Viewers, Jack that the Albanezi government did promise that energy 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.880 prices would drop by two hundred and seventy five dollars 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:58.359 and they have not done that. 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:02.440 So this is a way to counter that. Say, you're giving. 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.560 More of a rebate, but this rebate is only one off, 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.200 so it will only cover these increasing power costs for 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:13.440 one calendar year or one year, should I say, and 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:14.800 then the problems. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:15.640 Are back to where they started. 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.520 So this is a lot of spin in this budget, 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.839 but we get that from both sides of politics. 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.520 Well said, But moving on now. Even though it was 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.159 a serious cost of living budget, some labor MPs thought 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:36.839 it was all one big joke. Now, Christy, I want 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:40.120 to bring you in here for me watching this video, 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.520 and it did generate some headlines because it was a 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.760 bit confronting. We're on one hand saying people are doing 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.760 it tough. We've got this tough budget where we're having 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:55.200 to provide relief to energy bills. People are struggling with rent. 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.400 A lot of that's immigration driven, and the people who 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.479 are running the country are doing these bizarre dances where 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:05.080 they're kicking their feet up as if I don't know 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:06.520 what to make of it, What are your thoughts? 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.120 This is an absolute thing that people trapped inside a 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:17.360 bubble think is funny. It's an absolute in joke, and 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.600 I'm sure a lot of MPs and other people in 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.000 the building thought it was clever, thought it was leading 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:26.080 into the zeitgeist about TikTok videos. I'm sure people in 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:30.040 the building could understand the relevance of the autumnal changes 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.400 of the budget tree and so forth. But to people 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.720 out there, they are thinking, why are we sending people 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.120 to Canbra to dance in a courtyard on budget day 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.680 when I can't pay my bills, when everything at the 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.560 supermarket is costing me more, when I'm not better off 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.680 than I was two years ago. Since you came to 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.920 government and you're dancing around a tree. 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.720 Yeah, good point, Sophie Elsworth. Your thoughts was it an 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:55.280 own goal? 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.400 Jack? I just don't think it's the time for it. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.560 I mean, it's nice to see politicians have a little 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.720 bit of fun. They're generally pretty serious, but when they're 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.120 putting out social media content that you know, looks like 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:10.560 they're having a bit of a. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:11.520 Wow of a time. 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:18.120 You know, Australian economy, households are suffering. There's no denying 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.280 that people are feeling the strain and I think a mum. 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:24.240 And dad household out in the Burbs. 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.160 Who is struggling to pay their mortgage in their power 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.440 bill would look at that and just go These people 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:29.679 have no idea. 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.160 Yeah, it's asinine, it's stupid, the need to get back 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.520 to work. But now to a great scoop by our 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.600 panelist Sophie Elseworth at The Australian who sought it through 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.920 the budget papers only to find that the audience at 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:43.040 the ABC. 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:44.679 Is expected to plummet. 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.679 Sophie reported the budget papers say the ABC's combined weekly 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.960 audience reach, which is a target of sixty seven percent 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.480 in this financial year, is expected to fall to sixty 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.520 three percent. It is expected to drop again in the 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:02.480 twenty twenty four five financial year to sixty two percent, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:07.200 a result blamed on soft and used web services. Now, 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.720 while audiences are dropping, the national broadcaster is actually pocketing 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.840 even more of your cash, with the one point one 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:17.280 nine billion dollar budget getting a fifty eight point five 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.319 million dollar top up next year. Wages at the ABC 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.640 will also rise by nine percent as well. Now let's 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.920 bring Sophie back into discuss. Now, Sophie, the thing that 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.719 jumped out at me is they're blaming this concept of 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:34.040 a soft news web market for the shrinking audiences. 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.320 What does that mean in this context? So what are 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.719 they trying to say. 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.640 Well, they're trying to say that, you know, news services 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.319 are seeing a decline in audience. Now, we know that 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:51.240 it is challenging time for media outlets, whatever platform they 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:55.040 are on. But the thing is, we give the ABC 0:09:55.360 --> 0:10:01.360 about one point two billion dollars annually in government funds, 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.680 So it's expected that they keep the audience engage because 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.600 they're getting an awful lot of bucket of cash dropped 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.120 at their front doors every year. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:10.320 Now this is not happening. 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:14.200 Their audience will decline to sixty three percent reach and 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:17.360 then a further decline to sixty two percent reach. Now, 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.520 I would argue, it's not about budgetary issues at the 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.480 ABC that's seeing an audience decline. It's about their content Jack. 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.079 We talk about it on this show week in Wakeout. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.600 Even Paul Barriot the Media Watch was calling out some 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.439 of their coverage with the Bondi murders. They are not 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:38.760 getting to issues, they are not covering news events properly, 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:43.040 and then viewers and listeners and readers are tuning in elsewhere, 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:43.679 So they have a. 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.440 Problem with engaging their audience. 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.400 And I would argue it's because of the content and 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.560 the quality of the content in some instances that they 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:52.400 are pushing out. 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.080 Yeah, I couldn't agree well, and Christy, obviously the ABC 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.200 does some amazing work in the regions. Where I think 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.520 they've gone wrong is dedicating so many so much headcount 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.600 in to say the TikTok division, and they're obviously trying 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.800 to do it because you get these easy, cheap views 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.840 there and then they can report back in you know, 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.760 the Senate estimates and everything that their audience share has 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.480 gone up, but the views aren't equal. It's not the 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.920 same as capturing a big audience in a regional area 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.760 as getting this bizarre audience on TikTok with these cheap 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.480 views for essentially just covering memes and jokes. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.880 That's exactly right. And you know, I grew up a 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.240 regional Australian and I grew up watching the ABC, and 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.600 I'm grateful and I'm thankful for the work they do 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:40.520 in bringing representation of regional Australians to the rest of Australia. 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:45.120 But there's not enough of a concentration on that regional 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.080 Australians would be mortified to see what the ABC does 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.280 in the city. If they tuned in to ABC Sydney 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:55.160 in the mornings and heard the host promoting wanting Sydney 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:59.360 siders to engage in a game of tag. People do 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.120 not want to list into that content. The news direction 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:08.600 is dropping dropping if concepts such as that are major 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:12.520 promotions to engage in audience. It used to be the 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:16.000 best investigative journalism in Australia. It still is in parts 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:20.280 of the regions, but not when you're tuning on in 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:21.800 the city stations. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.320 Well said, and now to the Walk LEAs, which is 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.920 taking a very brave stance by standing up against the 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:32.920 evil fossil fuel companies. The Australian reports that the Media 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.400 Awards event has acted its partnership with Australian oil company 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.800 and Pole, claiming they will only work with companies which 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:44.920 have a quote tangible benefit to humanity. Sophia, I want 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:46.840 to bring you in here because you've written this story. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.199 The thing that I was confused about. The insinuation appears 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:56.199 to be that fossil fuels provide no tangible benefit to humanity. 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.520 Is that what you thought as well? 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:04.520 Well, that's basically what it's saying, Jack, And this uproar 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.000 happened last year when the cartoonists, a group of cartoonists 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:12.200 were quite disgusted that the Walkleys had one of its 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:17.520 major sponsors as Ampole, and then further fallout occurred after 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:21.960 an SMH article said that the founder, Sir William Walkley 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:27.040 of Ampole, who also helped create The Walkleys, held racist 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.640 views in a column written newspaper in the nineteen sixties. 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:35.000 So they're basically now cutting off or biting the hand 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.120 that feeds them and this is not going to end. Well, 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.760 they've ended, they're ending their relationship with amp Pole. But 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.240 I think this is virtue signaling at its finest, and 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.720 Daily Telegraf cartoonist Warren Brown said to me in this story, 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.720 how are these cartoonists who are so outraged going to 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:53.199 get to. 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.160 The Walkley Awards? Are they going to. 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:59.079 Arrive in a tesla or on a solar powered pogo stick? 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.640 This is a bit of virtue signaling and it's probably 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:03.640 gone too far. 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:04.040 Jack. 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:08.000 Yeah, the irony is that the announcement would have been 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.600 written on a computer which is powered by energy from 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.120 fossil fuels. Bunch of hypocrites. We're going to take a 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.760 quick break. When we're back. Albanesi gets into media trouble 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:17.880 with one of his tenants. 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:21.640 Welcome back. 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:25.200 Anthony Albanzi also made headlines this week after The Daily 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:29.880 Telegraph revealed he was evicting a tenant from an investment property. 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:35.400 So my landlord is Anthony Albanesi, right, the Prime Minister, 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.680 and look full disclosure. Albet's been a really good landlord. 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.160 I like Albow I noted for him in the last election. 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.760 I'm supportive of a lot of the things that he does. 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.920 I'm very confused by this, and I guess I'm disconfused 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.560 by the circumstances that again I wasn't given the opportunity 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:53.600 to potentially look at other. 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:54.880 Options increasing the rent. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.200 And I was particularly confused by the reason that the 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:03.720 estate agent, which was that the landlord was considering selling 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:04.280 the property. 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.880 So what did Albanesi say in response? 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:09.960 I wish him well, but. 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:16.120 I am allowed to make changes which are a direct 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.840 result of the changes that have happened. 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.560 In my life from where I was ten years ago. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.320 Seems fair enough to me. And while Flanagan was claiming 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.880 that Albert was his landlord, the truth may be more complicated. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:34.440 News dot COM's Sam Maiden reports that comedian Chrissy Flanagan, 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.600 the ex partner of the man that Anthony Albanesi is 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.840 trying to evict from his investment property, has sensationally revealed 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:45.280 that she remained on the lease even after she moved 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.280 out in order to keep the rent down. Now let's 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.760 bring the panel back in Christy. First of all, just 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:56.440 starting with the scenario, just in general, who do you 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.080 think is in the right here? I've got a lot 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.840 of sympathy for Anthony Albanesi. I think that this bloke 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.840 has had very low rent for a very long time 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:08.560 and it's his prerogative to maximize his rent sell the property. 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.080 But he's getting a lot of flat. The story has 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:12.840 taken wings. 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:15.840 The story's got. 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.360 A few twists and turns, hasn't it. And I love 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:23.120 that the Daily Telegraph went out to do this story 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.960 against the Prime Minister and the talent they found was 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:31.320 so complimentary of the Prime Minister, was almost an ad 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.120 for what a good bloke Anthony Albanize is, So they 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.320 didn't quite get what they were after there. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.000 So the Telly have been. 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.080 Really happy with the story taking another turn today about 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:46.120 multiple leaseholders and who actually is the tenant here? But 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:51.440 Anthony Albanize in his response, he's replicating the response of 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:55.880 every person in Australia who owns investment properties and is 0:16:55.920 --> 0:17:00.760 looking at state governments put in legislation on the rights 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:07.399 of renters and listening to politicians talking about rent moratoriums. 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.600 And so forth. It is an asset class. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.520 It should be treated as such, like every other asset 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.440 class in Australia, and the Prime Minister has just proved 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.400 that point. He's allowed to do with his property what 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.280 he wants, but he's been really good about keeping the 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:25.320 rent down for this small business owner during and post COVID. 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.600 I think we you know, I have some sympathy for 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.280 the PM on this one as well. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:31.240 Yeah, I mean Sophie. 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:35.040 Obviously the tenant, Flanagan hasn't been that critical of Albanesi, 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.240 and he's more talking broadly about the rights for renters 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.720 in general. Seems to kind of be where he's fallen 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.760 his position, But it has ended up hurting Albanesi in 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.520 some demographics, I would argue, and I think that this 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:51.120 renterers maybe a little bit entitled. He's had very low rents. 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:53.800 If I was here, I'd be thanking Albanesi for all 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:55.240 those years of support. 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.880 Well, Jack, there's a few things here, I think to unpa. 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:05.080 Yes, the Prime Minister is entitled to sell any asset 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.840 classes that he has, and he's obviously looking at doing that. 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.239 He's well within his rights. But I would argue the 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.400 timing of this is not great for the Prime minister. 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.639 When the government's all about, you know, helping out renters, 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:23.200 they're struggling out there. The timing of this, it's turned 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:29.399 into a media you know, you know, whole drama really. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.640 As a result of this that could have been avoided 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:33.200 if this was done at a different time. 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.080 It's right in the middle of federal budget week and 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.399 it just doesn't look like the Prime Minister is practicing 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.800 what he preaches. He's basically saying the tenant's got to go, 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.800 I'm selling my property. He's well within his rights to 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:51.120 do that. But I think people are going, you're sort 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.040 of saying one thing but doing another. 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.000 Perhaps, Yeah, it's a good point. He should have waited 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.600 until after the budget. It's a cost of living budget, 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:00.159 and I guess it comes back to you. You know 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.439 that video we played of dancing MPs You've got to 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.480 walk as well. You can't just say the right things, 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.760 You actually have to practice what you preach. And I 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:10.879 can see that there is area for him to be 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:11.840 criticized there. 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:12.359 Anyway. 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.960 Let's move on now to the US, where Trump's hush 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:18.399 money trial is in full swing. And to stop Trump 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.680 from talking publicly about the trial in a way which 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:25.399 could be perceived to be intimidating witnesses, the judge placed 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.399 a gag order on him, but that didn't stop a 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:32.320 few wild press conferences taking place as his supporters found 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:32.920 a loophole. 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.600 Some of Donald Trump's allies joined him in New York 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.680 yesterday for his criminal hush money trial. Outside of court, 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.400 they said, what Trump can't because of the gag order 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:46.880 in place on the former president. You just saw both 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:50.360 Senator j. D. Vance of Ohio and Senator Tommy Tarbarwell 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:52.600 of Alabama said they're just there to support a friend, 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:57.639 but both then criticized Trump's former fixer, Michael Cohen. Vance 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:02.720 also attacked the judge's daughter, unfounded claims made by the former. 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.040 President, Christie. 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.000 Let's bring you in here. I mean, it's been such 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:12.040 a circus this entire trial. I did find it very 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.879 funny that Trump always finds a way you could put 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:18.080 a gag or order on him. The insinuation appears to 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:21.520 be that he sent out his supporters to say what 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.120 he would say if he legally could and didn't want 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:24.879 to go to jail. 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:28.080 America. 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:37.040 Wow, And I will say that Republican politicians are basically 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.720 lining up to prove loyalty to Trump. 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:42.320 They would do anything. 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.879 I'm surprised that there are not more of them there 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:50.960 following this legal circus around the United States, to turn 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:55.600 up and back Trump and make statements in his support 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.800 to gain loyalty from him. 0:20:59.119 --> 0:20:59.880 There are people in. 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:02.840 The Publican party who have spoken out against Trump in 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.200 the past who are now changing their mind, who are 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:11.640 absolutely making statements adverse to what they had said previously, 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:16.280 or because they know Trump's reputation for people who are 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:17.280 loyal to him. 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:18.920 And will back his point of view. 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:21.879 That's not uncommon in politicians the world over, but I 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.520 think this is a really extreme case here in the 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:29.240 United States, with Republicans falling over themselves to do anything 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:31.399 they can to show loyalty to Donald Trump at this 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:32.920 point of the electoral cycle. 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:35.240 So for elseworth your thoughts. 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:39.600 Oh, look, isn't he clever? 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:43.520 Hat He's managed to get around this in what appears 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:45.120 to sending out. 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:46.880