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Speaker 1: We often sadly talk about how bad things are around

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Speaker 1: as you'd know, just not far from here at five

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Speaker 1: Double A and High Marsh Square, the Rundle Mall, which

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Speaker 1: has been the target of people going in and brazenly shoplifting.

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Speaker 1: And there was the case of the bloke with the

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Speaker 1: axe in the mall as wells standing outside one of

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Speaker 1: the sports stores, and I think a colleague of his

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Speaker 1: had gone in and done the deed, and they've both

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Speaker 1: wandered off after that. One of them, from memory was

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Speaker 1: arrested pretty much straight away and the other feller still

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Speaker 1: remained on the run for a few days. But it's

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Speaker 1: an issue and police have been cracking down on that well.

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Speaker 1: Also not far from here, in fact, diagonally across from us,

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Speaker 1: the Griffin Heads Hotel's been there for quite some time,

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Speaker 1: quite a few years of Griffin's Head, and the owner

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Speaker 1: is Adam Vontoff. He joins me now because there was

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Speaker 1: the most brazen of robberies in his paba a short

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Speaker 1: while ago. Adam, good morning, thanks for your.

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Speaker 2: Time, Matthew, thanks for having us tell us.

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Speaker 1: What happened in your poke lounge.

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Speaker 2: It was pretty quiet Wednesday afternoon at about seven o'clock, and

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Speaker 2: these two young chaps came in and literally smashed into

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Speaker 2: a gaming machine and took out the money from inside.

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Speaker 2: It was it was just quite unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Really, that is unreal. So what they just smashed it open?

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 2: Literally literally the case. Yeah, and that was it was

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Speaker 2: pretty disappointing, but we were really really grateful for the

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Speaker 2: supporter of the Safehold guys who were here straight away,

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Speaker 2: and fortunately everybody was okay and they didn't approach me

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Speaker 2: the staff, which was which is a blessing really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because your mum was inside at the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mum was. Mum was here. We're a family business

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Speaker 2: and your mum often helps it out, does the occasional clothes,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, she was, you know, she's she was a

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Speaker 2: bit shaken. I think she's just mostly disappointed and annoyed

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Speaker 2: that these things just continually happened. You know, it was

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Speaker 2: not just that one event on Wednesday. He's continual. You know,

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Speaker 2: little acts of vandalism or theft keep adding up. But

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Speaker 2: it's not just after It's all small business, as you

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Speaker 2: said before, you know, the Runda mall and all the

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Speaker 2: traders in the city seem to be affected. So we're

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Speaker 2: not isolated about this, and it's a bit challenged. It's

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Speaker 2: just disappointing and expensive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And the Brazen has offered given the there's

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Speaker 1: a Staypole office, a police station just what wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look that you know, from our point of view,

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Speaker 2: others there were really really grateful for Safpoles as fast

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Speaker 2: attacked and the care they talked with everybody in the

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Speaker 2: last art and the report the reporting was just outstanding.

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Speaker 2: So but just you know, it just doesn't seen the matter.

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Speaker 2: You know, these things happened all over the place, you know,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, it's just pointing it genterally adds to the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, indeed, I'm sure it does. What else has happened?

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Speaker 1: You says the latest incident? What else have you had?

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Speaker 2: Just the petitiveness of a lot of these things, you know,

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Speaker 2: having having you know, continually try to spend money on

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Speaker 2: and you know, it just adds up sort of things

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Speaker 2: every week you're costing, you know, getting hit with some

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Speaker 2: little incident which adds up, you know, three four or

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Speaker 2: and again you know, can't stressing up. It's not just here.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the frustrating thing is that the area is tafe.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. You know, we live in a

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Speaker 2: really great state, really great town. We're very safe. There's

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Speaker 2: just the peniness of these little incidents just keep mounting up.

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Speaker 2: And you know, while have empathy for people who might

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Speaker 2: Just I can't understand why somebody feels compelled to come

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Speaker 2: we let people come in and use the toilets, whether

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Speaker 1: And it also probably points to a bit of desperation

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Speaker 1: if they're just stealing coins. I don't know how much

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Speaker 2: Bucks, Yeah, exactly, You're not talking a lot of at all,

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Speaker 2: but you know, if you look around the streets, you know,

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Speaker 2: And we're lucky to live in a state where we've

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Speaker 2: you know, and we all need to do our part

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Speaker 2: in that as well. You know, so's curely no blame

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Speaker 2: And I guess we're intersex is without our business and

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Speaker 2: the cost of doing business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right, which which points to the bigger issue

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Speaker 1: similar to COVID, but cost of living the reason these days,

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess we're at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: hospitality is a discretionary spend and I guess if the

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Speaker 2: earlier than others. So you know that it's just the

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Speaker 2: people do still want to celebrate twenty first and thirtiest

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Speaker 2: well because people are looking to still celerate those types

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Speaker 1: What are you hearing within the industry though, Adam, you

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Speaker 2: No, I think if you give said that, you know

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Speaker 2: You know, there's there's you know, there's you know, people

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Speaker 2: have to prioritize the things in life that's matter and

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Speaker 2: that's where people's alorities needs to be. That's where my

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Speaker 2: You know, we're very supportive of each other as well,

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Speaker 2: there is, there is a network and we didn't continue

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Well, Griffin said, you got the essays best

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Speaker 1: it is concerning, as you say, do you know these

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Speaker 2: and all the information has been provided. So I'm sure

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Speaker 2: that will all run its course. And yeah, look hopefully

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Speaker 2: So I certainly was my intention to sort of fleet

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Speaker 2: about while his art. That wasn't it at all. It

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Speaker 2: yet again, you know, yet another week. You know, something's happened.

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Speaker 2: That's just it's out of everybody's control. You know, nobody

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not getting better. That's the other tragic

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Speaker 1: part of the whole story, because people, as you say rightly,

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's what people are resorting not that

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Speaker 2: And Adam, it is open to everybody, and we just

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Speaker 2: got to continue treating everybody kindly, you know, And I

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Speaker 2: think that that's the key, you know, whenever we cross

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Speaker 2: behaviors because they're just unnecessary. There's just not a net

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Speaker 2: winner in the whole situation. Even the people who might

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Speaker 2: they're not. There's no win for them any more than

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Speaker 2: the businesses that are affected.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Adam, really appreciate you having a chat this morning.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. Adam. Avanta from the Griffin's Head

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Speaker 1: Hotel in heine Marsh Square on the northeast corner and

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Speaker 1: good pub being there forever one of one of the

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Speaker 1: few that have been well few there's a few in Adelaide,

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Speaker 1: but still there forever and a day, and hopefully it

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Speaker 1: stays in that spot. It's a great spot in High

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Speaker 1: Marsh Square, sitting out there, particularly in a sunny day,

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Speaker 1: traffic all that going around and you're there enjoying the ambient.

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