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Speaker 1: Apod Shape Production. Welcome back to another episode of Am

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Speaker 1: I A Bad Mom? Podcast on Instagram as well? Am

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Speaker 1: I A Bad Mum?

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Speaker 2: We have some really good memes that come through from people,

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Speaker 2: and I just found myself literally in that spiral of

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Speaker 2: memes and messages from people that just love sending them through.

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Speaker 2: So please keep sending them because they provide a lot

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Speaker 2: of entertainment.

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Speaker 1: They're good. You don't do TikTok, do you?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not a TikToker.

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Speaker 1: No. I've done one video. I might have done two,

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Speaker 1: like bad dancers, just for fun. Everyone keeps saying you

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Speaker 1: need to be on TikTok, and especially like from a

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Speaker 1: business perspective as well. Yeah, and like for us for

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Speaker 1: this podcast podcast, we should be doing TikTok.

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Speaker 2: Not again. You lead it. I'll definitely jump on board

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Speaker 2: and follow you. But there's no dance moves happening here.

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Speaker 1: No, I've got two posts. I'm just having a look.

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Speaker 1: I got two posts. I've got twenty eight followers.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, you're doing really well.

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Speaker 1: I'm forty nine likes, so you know I'm flying. Am

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Speaker 1: I a Bad Mum? For allowing the TikTok trends?

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Speaker 2: Killing it? With those numbers, Katie, Yeah, I am looking

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Speaker 2: forward to watching the rise happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well wait for an expert. Yay, it's gonna go viral.

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Speaker 1: So my kids are obviously on TikTok. We've had moments

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Speaker 1: over the years of them not being on it and

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Speaker 1: then back on it. I didn't mind it at first.

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Speaker 1: The girls were on it when it used to be

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Speaker 1: called musically, which is what it was before it was TikTok,

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Speaker 1: and essentially it was just dancing and it was quite innocent.

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Speaker 1: It's not so innocent anymore. I got to a point

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Speaker 1: where Amelia was starting to talk about being scared of

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Speaker 1: people tracking your cars, shootings and all these stuff that

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Speaker 1: they're seeing on tiktoka. There's a lot of it is American.

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Speaker 1: And took them off for a while, but they're back

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Speaker 1: on it now they're fifteen. I mean, you know, they're

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Speaker 1: almost living out at home. But I've loosened the string.

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Speaker 1: But every now and then they want to do some

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Speaker 1: sort of TikTok challenge, like something that's going viral, and

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Speaker 1: everyone's doing this one the other day right where Holly said,

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Speaker 1: have we got any cucumber? And I was like, I

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Speaker 1: don't actually think we do have Please can we go

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Speaker 1: to the shop and get some cucumber? And I was like,

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Speaker 1: we've already done the shopping, but anyway, we get the

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Speaker 1: cucumber because she's seen a TikTok video that's going viral

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Speaker 1: and it's a cucumber salad. And I was like, I

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Speaker 1: thought back to myself.

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Speaker 2: At fifteen cucumber salad.

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Speaker 1: I remember very vividly the day that I walked down

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Speaker 1: the high street and I stopped into Macas and I

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Speaker 1: got a double cheeseburger and I ate it as I

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Speaker 1: walked down past Hungry Jacks, which is burger king in

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Speaker 1: the UK, and I bought another one so I could

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Speaker 1: compare the two. And I thought back to that moment

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Speaker 1: and thought, jeez, kids are trying to be healthy these

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Speaker 1: days with alcohol. Like the girls had a sleepover a

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Speaker 1: while ago and I said, oh, like do you have

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Speaker 1: any So this is a really controversial topic. I don't

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Speaker 1: mind them having the odd drink if it's in safe situation.

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Speaker 1: They're not doing it behind my back. They don't feel

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Speaker 1: like they need to lie about it that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: And Holly went, no, why why would we like it

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Speaker 1: wasn't a party it was just a sleepover, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh no, not just you know, just asking

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Speaker 1: if they offered or anything like no, like none of

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Speaker 1: my friends just drink like that, like on a sleepover,

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Speaker 1: Like that's not fun. Why would we do that? And

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, great, amazing, whatever works. But what

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Speaker 1: I'm finding is that kids are super trying to be

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Speaker 1: super healthy these days. Like I read a statistic the

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Speaker 1: other day about aged I think it was eighteen to

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Speaker 1: and do those bad things now. Like we're so much

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Speaker 1: more educated on and I'm not saying we're not educated,

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Speaker 1: like we know the dangers of alcohol, but it's too

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Speaker 1: late for us, Like we're.

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Speaker 2: Already we're in the deep dive already. There. No, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about this in the sense of it being almost

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Speaker 2: like there's so much more of the zero alcohol drinks

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Speaker 2: you don't have to drink, you can choose not to drink.

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Speaker 2: They have an option.

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Speaker 1: When I look at this particular TikTok trend, it was

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Speaker 1: about making a great cucumber salad, and then there's all

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Speaker 1: sorts of stuff that goes into the dressing, like the

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Speaker 1: I was like, wow, what is it?

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Speaker 2: Because though that you're doing that because you're getting recognized

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Speaker 2: at school, because other people are on TikTok that therefore

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Speaker 2: you're in this constant need to be trending.

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Speaker 1: Maybe so then.

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Speaker 2: You're like, Okay, I can't even in my head, like

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Speaker 2: just off the top sort of having that moment of

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Speaker 2: going I can't even think of what it was that

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Speaker 2: to a degree at school. Does that make sense? Like

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have made a cucumber salad just to be trending.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe what else could you use as

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Speaker 2: a comparison for when we were kids, Like.

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Speaker 1: You'd see something in a magazine maybe yeah, maybe, And

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Speaker 1: this is why, like, but in our magazines, there was

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Speaker 1: not cucumber salads that we were making, so that you

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Speaker 1: could go to school and say I.

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Speaker 2: Made this cucumber salad out of what magazines we were

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Speaker 2: reading Cleo, Cosmo.

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Speaker 1: It would be what you see a celebrity do. So

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Speaker 1: like I might see Britney Spears come out of Starbucks

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Speaker 1: and she has like one of those iced.

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Speaker 2: And she has no clothes on and shaved her head,

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Speaker 2: and then next minute you find yourself at Starmarcks. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm joking. It's kind of like that Yeah, you're right magazine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I've talked about this before, which is why it's

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Speaker 1: kind of dangerous that these people on social media are

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Speaker 1: so very touchable. Like when I say that you can

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Speaker 1: send DM to someone that you like, You're not always

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Speaker 1: direct message to your biggest hero, whoever it might be.

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Speaker 1: You're also seeing that hero on their stories, sweating after

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Speaker 1: Like and even I find myself the other day what

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Speaker 1: are you watching? Because he could hear. I had a

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Speaker 1: video and I'm watching David Beckham do a tour of

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Speaker 1: his vegetable patch. I was fascinated. I was like, oh, look,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, Wow, this is really interesting. I'm

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Speaker 1: actually spending my time watching this guy look at his

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Speaker 1: vegetable patch. But that's what our kids are doing too,

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Speaker 1: That's what they're doing with TikTok. They're scrolling through these

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Speaker 1: very normal videos, which is why they've got an unrealistic

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Speaker 1: view of what they can have in terms of designer

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Speaker 1: handbags and brands and things like that, because they are

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Speaker 1: just looking like you and me. They're doing the normal

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Speaker 1: stuff orreas we had glossy magazines. It's very untouchable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very true. I like that because we were

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Speaker 2: actually only talking about it because I think el McPherson

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Speaker 2: book or something? But she's been on everything at the moment,

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Speaker 2: She's been on like sixty minutes and then Today's show,

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Speaker 2: and then she's been on everything. She's working the Second Heart,

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Speaker 2: obviously going to release something. But she was on there

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Speaker 2: and Gracie was saying who is that She's beautiful, and

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Speaker 2: it was funny because both my brother and I were

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Speaker 2: sort of like, oh, that's El McPherson. Like she in

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Speaker 2: our day was like in every magazine possible. But she

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Speaker 2: was untouchable. Right. That's the thing is you wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: her a DM and going, oh my god, your hair

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Speaker 2: is still so beautiful. How did you make it?

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Speaker 1: No like that, And you wouldn't be seeing her attending

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Speaker 1: to a vegetable patch like. No, they're normal people now.

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Speaker 1: They weren't normal people back then. When you see them

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Speaker 1: in gossom, No, it seems they're very untouchable. I mean

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Speaker 1: going back to the cucumber salad, like she's obviously seeing

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Speaker 1: someone or everyone's doing it, but go, oh, this is

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Speaker 1: what we should be eating. This is cucumber salad, and

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Speaker 1: she's going, great, that's great for my lunch. And it

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Speaker 1: also means I'm trendy. So there are positives, positive social

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Speaker 1: media positives to TikTok. I never thought I would ever

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Speaker 1: say it, I'm TikTok's teaching us about health.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, And then you've got the other side of

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Speaker 2: TikTok where you look at some of those trends and go,

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Speaker 2: I never wish my children see this, because there's some

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Speaker 2: shit out there that people are dead set, messed up,

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Speaker 2: it with other people to join the bandwagon of doing

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Speaker 2: shitty things, and you sort of go, you know, hopefully

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Speaker 2: themselves out of that, because yeah, there's some shit on there.

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Speaker 2: There's let's just say, there's some shit on there, but

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Speaker 2: interesting enough. And wrapping it up with the kid thing

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Speaker 2: is do you know that they're actually looking at now

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Speaker 2: trying to see if they can draft a legislation to

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Speaker 2: make social media an age limit, so you can't have

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Speaker 1: How they had that anyway? How are they going to

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Speaker 1: manage I thought they had that anyway, but the just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you won't be able to That's what I

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Speaker 2: was thinking. I was like, why are we talking about

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Speaker 2: this again? Because there's no way that you can police this.

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Speaker 1: My girls went through a period of time where they

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Speaker 1: constantly got their TikTok shut down, Yeah, for not being

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Speaker 1: old enough to Yeah. They would just close the accounts

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Speaker 1: down and then they would put the account in another address. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know what. Instagram for me sometimes it is just

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Speaker 2: too much.

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Speaker 1: What you need to be doing is you need to

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Speaker 1: follow Dave Rebeckham because there's some really great.

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Speaker 2: I need to be finding this cucumb of salad at

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Speaker 2: this stage because I am not trendy at all, because

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Speaker 2: I have never made a cucumber salad in my life