1 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: From the Australian. This is the weekend edition of The Front. 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm Claire Harvey. Wednesday, the Adams family daughter who first 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: appeared in a New York Or comic strip in nineteen 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: forty four, is the hottest thing in twenty twenty five. 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: That's thanks to a Tim Burton directed Netflix hit based 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: on the character. Jenna or Tager stars as Wednesday and 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: has introduced a new generation to goth culture with her 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: black outfits and macabre dark eyes. On today's episode, I'm 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: joined by entertainment reporter Jordi Gray, who caught up with 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: Tim Burton, general Or Tager, and show writers Alfred Goff 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: and Miles Miller on a recent promo tour in Sydney. 12 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: There's a lot of things about me you don't know 13 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: anything about that. Things you wouldn't understand, Things you shouldn't understand. 14 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: American filmmaker Tim Burton made his directorial debut with Peewee's 15 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: Big Adventure in nineteen eighty five. Beetlejuice followed in eighty eight, 16 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: and Edward Scissahans in nineteen ninety. 17 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 2: Jeorge Jack a Handcheck You Got Their. 18 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: Ed, establishing Burton as the patron saint of outcasts around 19 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: the world. Although he was born almost fifty years prior 20 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: and on the other side of the country to Tim Burton, 21 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: there's plenty of overlap between Adam's family creator Charles Adams, 22 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: and Tim Burton. One of Adam's first jobs was cleaning 23 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: up corpse pictures. It didn't last, as apparently he liked 24 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: things a little bloodier. One of Burton's first jobs was 25 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: as a Disney animator, working on The Fox and the Hound. 26 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: He got the boot from that after he made all 27 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: the animals look like roadkill. Beyond liking the grizzly stuff, 28 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: both men share an extraordinary ability to create art by 29 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: distorting reality and revealing something deeper. So where does that 30 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: come from? He's Tim Burton. 31 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: I grew up to You're a cemetery, you know, and 32 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: I used to play in the cemetery, and so, you know, 33 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: even though Burbank in California is very bright and light, 34 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: I was always sort of drawn to the darker side 35 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: of it. 36 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 4: Why do you think that's such like a rich territory 37 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 4: to mine? 38 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: Well, because it comes across as quite normal, right, but 39 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: underneath it it's not. You know, there's no such thing 40 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: as normal, you know what I mean. It's like, you know, 41 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: that's why I like the Adams Family. You know, I 42 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 3: don't know the Adams Family is weird. It's like I 43 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: don't know one family that isn't weird, So you know, 44 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: for me, it was all just kind of normal sort 45 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: of life and behavior. 46 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: Jordy, we're talking about the Adams Family. This is a 47 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: show I remember from being on TV on repeats when 48 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: I was a kid. It originated as a comic strip 49 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: in the nineteen thirties. Why are we still talking about 50 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: the Adams Family into. 51 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 4: Well, I think it works so well as IP because 52 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 4: we didn't know anything about the Adams family from the cartoons, 53 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: Like they didn't even have names, there was barely any 54 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 4: text to them. So it's just like, he's a really cool, 55 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: spooky looking family that are being really pesky in like 56 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 4: nineteen thirty suburban America, and it's just such a good gag. 57 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: And to see that in the nineties and the now 58 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 4: is a pleasure. 59 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: It's not a similar, isn't it from how Superman and 60 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: Batman have their origins in that comic streep pre World 61 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: War two America. 62 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because the two creators of Wednesday, Alfred 63 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: go and Miles Miller. They did Smallville, which was the 64 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 4: Superman spin off in the early two thousands. 65 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 5: Because I am your father and I just told you 66 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 5: to get in the truck. 67 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: You know, my father, you never work. 68 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 4: They're really good at taking that classic illustrated IP and 69 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: tapping into what teenagers want to see, which is funny 70 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 4: because in speaking to them, they're like two middle aged dudes. 71 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 4: But yeah, they have a real knack for that. And Wednesday, 72 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 4: I think, is just such a unique character. And I 73 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: was speaking to a lot of teen fans around the 74 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: release of this season and they all said the same thing. 75 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 4: They which is so appreciative of this character that's a 76 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: bit of an outcast and has no interest in fitting in. 77 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: That's nice to hear when you're a teenager like you 78 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: can willingly be a bit of a weirdo. 79 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: We see a lot of outcasts in cinema and film, 80 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: don't we, But often they're aware that they're outcasts and 81 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: they desperately want to be included. 82 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: Yes, and she absolutely doesn't care about that at all. 83 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 4: She doesn't want to be enormy, as they call it 84 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: in the show. 85 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: I've read a few devastating reviews of this m Is 86 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: there a certain type of person who doesn't get that 87 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: this is a bit supposed to be funny? 88 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: Probably like forty year old reviewers. I think this is 89 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 4: a show for teenage girls. So every time I read 90 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 4: a scathing review from like ed wat's his face or 91 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: you know, Timothy blah blah, I'm like, well, it's not 92 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 4: for you. It's for teenage girls, so that the scathing 93 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 4: wit isn't up to your standards. But you know, for 94 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 4: a teenager, jokes about Edgar Allan Poe pretty radical. 95 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, the original TV series was funny, was supposed to 96 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: be a comedy. 97 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: Well it was a Comedy's it come right? Yeah? Yeah? 98 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: Is it still funny? And is this iteration meant to 99 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: be funny? It's not like funny ha ha. The humor 100 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: of the Adam's. 101 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: Fanly Movie and Wednesday is the same because there's a 102 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 4: lot of visual gags, them removing stop signs to cause 103 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 4: fatal car collisions and just you know, grim mecha stuff 104 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: that is a bit naughty but quite funny. Rovol and 105 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 4: general Teger's line delivery is so flat and monotonous that 106 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 4: you can't help but last because of the crazy violent thing. 107 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: She's saying that boy's family was going to file attempted 108 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 4: murder charges. 109 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 6: How would that have looked on your record? 110 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 5: Terrible? 111 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 6: Everyone would know I fail to get the job done. 112 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 4: I actually asked the writers how they got into the 113 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: mind of a sixteen year old girl, and their answer 114 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 4: was very interesting. 115 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 7: It's a very interesting question in terms of why we 116 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 7: attract to tell youthful stories considering what we're no longer youthful. 117 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 6: We're probviously incredibly immature. 118 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's I think maybe because we have two 119 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 7: daughters each, and I think it's just such a formative time. 120 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 7: You know, Clark Kent in Small Bille was very much, 121 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 7: you know, a team in a very interesting and unique situation, 122 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 7: and then Wednesday is also a very unique teen and 123 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 7: I think it's just that's the time in life when 124 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 7: things really like feel out of control and that character 125 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 7: that you know, how they end up are sort of forming. 126 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 7: So I think that's for us. Was like, it's just 127 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 7: such an interesting time to write about so much is 128 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 7: it's so furtive and full of possibility as writers, So 129 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 7: I think that's something we love to write about. 130 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 4: That's so interesting that you both have daughters. Were you 131 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: kind of thinking about making a show that they would like? Yeah? 132 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 7: And I think it's also just been very aware of 133 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 7: how few interesting and complex female protagonists there are. Most 134 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 7: ting girl for characters are either like the ugly, dark 135 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 7: clean who becomes a swan is usually involved in some 136 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 7: sort of teen love triangle. There's a sort of generic 137 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 7: and cliche, and Wednesday is the opposite of that. So 138 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 7: I think it's something that's very refreshing in that realm 139 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 7: of teen genre storytelling. 140 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: Did you ask Tim Burton about that as well, about 141 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: how he identifies with Wednesday. 142 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 4: I didn't have to ask him. He just told me 143 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: he at sixty six years old, still feels completely alienated 144 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: from everyone else. It's super admirable that he's had this 145 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: massive career hit hit after hit, and he seems just 146 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 4: so afraid of people. 147 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: Once you feel that way, you always kind of feel 148 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: that way. You never it never leaves you. Yeah, I 149 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: expect that feeling will last till the end of days. 150 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: For me. 151 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: It also speaks to how terrifying high school is, doesn't it? 152 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: The fact that these guys in their adulthood are still 153 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: able to cast themselves back into how awful it is 154 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: to be at school. 155 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think that's probably a chip 156 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 4: on your shoulder that you don't get rid of. I mean, 157 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like most of your personality 158 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: is shaped when you are a teenager. It's not like 159 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 4: you're going to be like a weirdo outcast that hangs 160 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 4: out in cemeteries and then suddenly be like a super 161 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: normal adult. You're going to carry that with you until 162 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: your end days. 163 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: Lead actress General Tager took Cello lessons before production started 164 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: on Wednesday and learned German CANi. 165 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 5: Sandi Artichus Pilgrimage. 166 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: But in addition to the practical prep, it was the 167 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: material on Ortega's mood board, a visual collection designed to 168 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: inspire and contextualize a character that intrigued Jordi. 169 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 5: I find inspiration or references everywhere, really Mahler and Shostakovich 170 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 5: is one of the more Gothic composers, so he's big 171 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 5: on my board. There's a lot of films that Tim 172 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 5: and I have talked about, like Ddam Knight and obviously 173 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 5: a Cabinet of Doctor Caligari, And you know, when we 174 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 5: set up shots and frames on set, it's based off 175 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 5: of that. We we do the Mary Shelley references, and 176 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 5: we read the books. I have these vintage books of 177 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 5: like the first edition of Charles Adams's cartoon strips and yeah, 178 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 5: and then also just like books, he had weird oddities 179 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 5: and curiosities, and I've gone to set and like we've 180 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 5: had props made based off of, you know, things that 181 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 5: he was interested in when he was first coming up 182 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 5: as an artist. And you know, I find inspiration everywhere, 183 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 5: but with someone like Wednesday, And because there's so much 184 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 5: history there and we have so much to go off of, 185 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 5: it's nice to just continue pulling back the layers and 186 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 5: getting deeper into those pre existing bits. 187 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: Coming up. 188 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: We look at the dance scene that helped Wednesday go viral. 189 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 6: And then the sun goes down and then little movie 190 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 6: comes out. 191 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: So tell me about this song and the scene. What 192 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: does she do in this dance that made the show 193 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: go viral? 194 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 4: She basically just dances like a goth. But I don't 195 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 4: think most people know what goths dance like. I personally 196 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 4: spend a lot of time in the company of goths, 197 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: but that is like quite a faithful goth dance. But 198 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 4: I guess if you're a sixteen year old or fourteen 199 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: year old watching Wednesday on Netflix, you've never seen anything 200 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 4: quite like it, and it inspired kids to take to TikTok. 201 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: To replicate the dance in the show, they use a 202 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 4: song Google Muck by The Cramps, which just went bananas 203 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 4: on streaming after quite like we saw with Kate Bush 204 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: and Stranger Things. But the TikTok trend was to Lady 205 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 4: Gagar's Bloody Mary. It's just a history. 206 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: The Lady Gaga's Bloody Mary represents the millennials what the 207 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: Cramps horror punk rip entered to gen X's in nineteen 208 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: eighty one. Bloody Mary was sped up by TikTok users, 209 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: hence the chip monkey sounding vocal to match the original 210 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: dance sequence set to Google mark and the trend went bananas. 211 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: I think it was like two million videos were made 212 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 4: doing this trend, and Leady Gaga got involved, Madonna got involved, 213 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 4: and now Letty Gaga is going to be in season two. 214 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: Netflix loves a big drop. They released season one in 215 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: one go, but for season two, the decision was made 216 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: to release the series in two parts, and this week's 217 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,479 Speaker 1: season two is premiering. 218 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: Why did they do that keeping the subscribers for months. 219 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: Yes, so you subscription, your trial subscription lapses after a month. Yep, 220 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: they don't want you to churn. 221 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's Space clears, the way that HBO 222 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: drip feeds the White Lotus. It's all subscriptions. So you're 223 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 4: saying this is a business, thinking Netflix might not be 224 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 4: in it for the art. Nam kidding, kidding, Love you Netflix. 225 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: Jordy Gray is the entertainment reporter and you can read 226 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: her cover story of Wednesday in this weekend's edition of Review, 227 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: available in The Australian or at the Australian dot com 228 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: dot you. This episode of the Front was hosted by 229 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: me Claire Harvey and produced by Jasper League, who edited 230 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: the episode and also wrote our theme. Thanks for joining 231 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: us on the Front this week. Our team includes Kristin 232 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: Amiot Leat Sammaglue, Tiffany Dimak, Joshua Burton and Stephanie Coombs.