WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 11 June

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<v Speaker 1>Lateens General, Welcome to the Late Debates.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond

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<v Speaker 2>with Liztora and Joe hildebrand Well. Electric vehicles may not

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<v Speaker 2>be the great environmental panaser. Who would have thought it,

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<v Speaker 2>But one university has a solution. Will tell you what

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<v Speaker 2>it is later in the show when we get into

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<v Speaker 2>the papers, will tell you the Australian suburb whose tapwater

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<v Speaker 2>has the most cancer causing chemicals in the country. And

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<v Speaker 2>two Russian women have been arrested on suspicion of murder.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason they allegedly murdered this man will shock you.

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<v Speaker 2>But first over at VIC Rhodes, it's been a case

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<v Speaker 2>of wrong way go back because they've looked at all

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<v Speaker 2>the regio renewal notices they have sent out for the

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<v Speaker 2>next financial year.

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<v Speaker 3>So these are.

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<v Speaker 2>People whose regio are due in July and onwards, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've worked out that one hundred and eighty thud thousand

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<v Speaker 2>people have been undercharged and they are threatening that if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't pay up the extra money they want from you,

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<v Speaker 2>your car is going to be unregistered. Now, basically what

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<v Speaker 2>happened was they were sitting there at VIC Rhodes, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course, you know, we know, bureaucrats have got nothing

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<v Speaker 2>better to do than not look at the work in

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<v Speaker 2>front of them, so they just hit the button that

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<v Speaker 2>sent off the regio renewal notices, which in Victoria usually

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<v Speaker 2>come by email. What they failed to do was add

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<v Speaker 2>on the price hike that comes for the new financial year,

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<v Speaker 2>which is three point four percent. So people have received

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<v Speaker 2>their renewal notice and gone, you see that looks like

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<v Speaker 2>the same amount it was for the last three months.

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<v Speaker 2>They've paid it, assuming that from July onwards their car

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<v Speaker 2>will continue to be registered. But the Transport Department says, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we actually want more money from you. People who got

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<v Speaker 2>the email saying we need more money or your car

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<v Speaker 2>is not going to be registered, they thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>a scam. One motorist was quoted in the Herald sound

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<v Speaker 2>Is saying there are so many dodgy emails and texts

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<v Speaker 2>going around and then I got one from VIC Rhodes

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<v Speaker 2>saying they want me to pay more. And you can

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<v Speaker 2>understand why you would read that and go, hang on

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, this smells a little bit. Vic rhads itself

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<v Speaker 2>has said incorrect pressing on registration renewal notices was recently

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<v Speaker 2>sent to some customers. This has now been fixed, but

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<v Speaker 2>we apologize for any inconvenience. Cause now I'm sorry Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>If Roads sends you.

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<v Speaker 2>A renewal notice and you pay the amount was written

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<v Speaker 2>on the renewal notice, you know, tough titties. If they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't put the right amount of money on it, you

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<v Speaker 2>paid it. You deserve to get what you paid all

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<v Speaker 2>week money.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's just have it so that it's fair for both parties.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to give VIC Rhodes what I think I

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<v Speaker 4>owe them, and then if they complained that it's not enough,

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<v Speaker 4>oh no, I'm sorry, but that was what I felt

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<v Speaker 4>that you were entitled to pay. This is just this

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<v Speaker 4>is phenomenal. So just to recap, just to put this

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<v Speaker 4>in context, we are in the middle of a cost

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<v Speaker 4>of living crisis. The Victorian government is jacking up the

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<v Speaker 4>price of its registrations to help fill the budget black

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<v Speaker 4>hole caused by all its COVID lockdowns. It then forgets

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<v Speaker 4>that it's actually doing this savage, just out of control

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<v Speaker 4>cash grab, sends it for the previous amount, and then

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<v Speaker 4>has to remind almost two hundred thousand people that it's

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<v Speaker 4>actually charging them more, and that this then gets interpreted

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<v Speaker 4>by said people as so hopelessly, transparently incompetent and such

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<v Speaker 4>a malicious, bare face, shameless cash grab that it must

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<v Speaker 4>be a scam from a Nigerian prince. This is the

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<v Speaker 4>level we have gotten to in the People's Republic and

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<v Speaker 4>it is just unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you. Registration in Victoria is extortionate. I've had

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<v Speaker 2>a car registered in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't be worse than New South What minds you

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<v Speaker 5>to this state? I seriously, it gave me.

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<v Speaker 6>Anxiety, the ridiculous system. Seriously, if New South Walians, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>that is a term, because I keep using it.

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<v Speaker 5>And you have a winning idea. How straightforward this is.

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<v Speaker 6>In my home state of Western Australia, it would curl

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<v Speaker 6>your hair. No pink slip, green slip, blue slip nonsense.

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<v Speaker 6>You just pay your red Joe and included in that

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<v Speaker 6>is your comprehensive insurance and none of this all the

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<v Speaker 6>colors of the rainbow jolly slips.

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<v Speaker 5>You again, forget different.

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<v Speaker 4>Things from green slip mechanic. He's going to grease. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if he's coming back.

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<v Speaker 5>It is a cash strap.

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<v Speaker 6>He just made up the most complex system that they

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<v Speaker 6>possibly can, so New South Wales can pocket all this rubbish.

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<v Speaker 5>Rubbish. You're raising money on rubbish. A pink slip.

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<v Speaker 6>Now you need a blue slip, the green slip. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>that one's needed. But just call it what it is instead.

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<v Speaker 3>Of at least to South Wales they rip you off

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<v Speaker 3>to your face.

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<v Speaker 2>True, but they have a slip. It's called that we

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<v Speaker 2>got it wrong slip here it is coming under your door,

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<v Speaker 2>please pay us more money. I don't know how they

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<v Speaker 2>can legitimately get away with this because if your sension,

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<v Speaker 2>if you perform a job for someone, or someone performs

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<v Speaker 2>a job for you, and they send you the invoice,

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<v Speaker 2>and the invoice is it's payable by this date. It's

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand dollars to have your plumbing done. Right, you

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<v Speaker 2>pay the two thousand dollars to your plumber.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's a good deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Argument, It is a good deal. But for argument's sake, right,

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<v Speaker 2>then the plumber comes back to you a month later

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<v Speaker 2>and oh, sorry, mate, I undercharge you for that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeast.

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<v Speaker 2>The government, the government can just say, oh, we got

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<v Speaker 2>it wrong, we want to charge you more money.

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<v Speaker 6>Is firstly a ginormous bungle that they have not given

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<v Speaker 6>any explanation for not that we need one.

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<v Speaker 5>It's government. We know that you're incompetent.

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<v Speaker 6>Above all else, but you wouldn't think that in the

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<v Speaker 6>middle of a cost of living crisis.

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<v Speaker 5>You just save face.

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<v Speaker 6>And be like, you know what, I just thought you

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<v Speaker 6>wo'd help you guys out.

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<v Speaker 4>In the message explaining how much they've stuffed it up,

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<v Speaker 4>they almost try to get some credit by fixing the

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<v Speaker 4>screw up that they did in the first but they say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, incorrect pricing and registers was recently sent some

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<v Speaker 4>cases this has now been fixed.

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<v Speaker 3>Well done.

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<v Speaker 6>You store in Australia, if something is unclearly priced, you

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<v Speaker 6>are more than entitled to buy it for the.

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<v Speaker 5>Lower price or to steal it again. If you've invoiced

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<v Speaker 5>me twice.

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<v Speaker 3>Just take that.

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<v Speaker 5>Surely I'm under Do you remember to cough up the rest?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember when they first introduced the scanners and

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<v Speaker 4>everyone said, oh, those to check out scanners.

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<v Speaker 3>They're never going to work. That's a rip off.

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<v Speaker 4>It's never going to catch on. We need to check

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<v Speaker 4>out chicks and all the supermarkets said, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>if it scans the wrong price. Every says, how do

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<v Speaker 4>we know it's the right price. They said, it scans

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<v Speaker 4>the wrong price, and it's less. That's it. That's yours

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<v Speaker 4>for that price.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 4>If it doesn't scan properly or whatever, it's yours for free.

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<v Speaker 4>What happened to that?

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<v Speaker 5>Try to try not know about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they said it everywhere.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm literally just going to camp out in the self

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<v Speaker 6>serve checkouts now and every time someone puts their hand

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<v Speaker 6>up because another one of those babies is malfunctioning, I

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<v Speaker 6>will just be like, did you know they promise this

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<v Speaker 6>would be free?

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<v Speaker 5>Because it's just stuffing up in.

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<v Speaker 2>Human Rights Warrior moving on now.

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<v Speaker 5>Too, Yes, no, I am. I love this stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you know that if a store has their policy saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>after thirty days you can't return this, or it's on sale,

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<v Speaker 6>you can't return this. Both those things are complete bogus.

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<v Speaker 5>Ladies, especially tune in.

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<v Speaker 3>If you were in the Consumer Watch, I would be.

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<v Speaker 6>Checking more than thirty days, literally, and I've never lost

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<v Speaker 6>once when I go to the counter and I say, look,

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<v Speaker 6>I understand that's what you're taught.

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<v Speaker 5>To say, and that's your store policy.

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<v Speaker 6>But according to Australian consumer law, you've got to give

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<v Speaker 6>me my money back because I'm bringing your product back.

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<v Speaker 6>End of the manager refunds you every single time because they.

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<v Speaker 5>Know you're right. But to more fury.

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<v Speaker 6>Now in the state of Victoria, this one is truly unbelievable. So,

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<v Speaker 6>as we all know, we have concurrent crises unfolding, the

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<v Speaker 6>housing crisis, the cost of living crisis. So what has

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<v Speaker 6>the Victorian government decided to do in the middle of

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<v Speaker 6>these rolling out making everyone bleed, landlords can barely breathe

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<v Speaker 6>as it is, with inflation, with interest rates.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the Victorian government has.

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<v Speaker 6>Gotten together and said we're going to make new minimal

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<v Speaker 6>rental standards relating to energy efficiency across the state. What

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<v Speaker 6>does this mean, do you ask, Well, it means that

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<v Speaker 6>landlords will be forced to fork out an eye watering

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<v Speaker 6>amount of money in the name of the state's climate communism.

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<v Speaker 6>Get this, this is what landlords will be stuck doing

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<v Speaker 6>if this goes ahead. They've made the proposal, and we

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<v Speaker 6>know what proposals turn into. It will include things such

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<v Speaker 6>as installing sealing installation where none exists, draft proving with

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<v Speaker 6>weather seals on all external doors, four star shower heads

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<v Speaker 6>in all showers, new electric hot water systems, and three

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<v Speaker 6>star efficiency calling for systems in the main living area.

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<v Speaker 6>At this rate, renters are going to be living in

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<v Speaker 6>better homes than the poor mom and dad investors who

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<v Speaker 6>actually bought the thing in the first place, hoping to

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<v Speaker 6>get a little bitter head in life. Now, the state

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<v Speaker 6>government estimates that this will save renters five hundred and

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<v Speaker 6>sixty seven dollars a year off their energy bills. But

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<v Speaker 6>where is the sense in this when by putting this

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<v Speaker 6>on landlords, you're going to be bumping up the price

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<v Speaker 6>of rent, aren't you. And I guarantee that whatever these

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<v Speaker 6>people would save on their energy bills per year, they'll

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<v Speaker 6>more than make up for because if the landlord's got

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<v Speaker 6>to fork out that much for all these bells and

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<v Speaker 6>whistles to make the climate communism party happy, then it's

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<v Speaker 6>going to be reflected in what people are charged to.

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<v Speaker 5>Rent the home. Someone explained this to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't think.

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<v Speaker 4>While I don't agree with you that everything is communist,

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<v Speaker 4>I think in this case we are getting perilously close

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<v Speaker 4>to it because these guys just say.

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<v Speaker 3>Understand.

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<v Speaker 5>That everything is common.

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<v Speaker 3>Try to agree.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell me how this isn't Because.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is really problematic. It sounds to you

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<v Speaker 4>with my own proper that's right. How I've agree with

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<v Speaker 4>you you.

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<v Speaker 6>So tell me how isn't it rather communisty that a

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<v Speaker 6>government now takes it upon itself to say, because we

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<v Speaker 6>believe that the world I've.

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<v Speaker 4>Just said, I feel it right, that's what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 4>to say.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, get onto the community.

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<v Speaker 4>It won't be Obviously, people do not get into the

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<v Speaker 4>rental market. People do not buy investment properties to lose money, right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's something that communists do not understand, which is how

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<v Speaker 4>capitalism works. And so therefore they are going to do

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<v Speaker 4>one of two things. If these costs are imposed on them,

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<v Speaker 4>they will either a pass them on to renters. As

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<v Speaker 4>you say, of course, they will simply say, well, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not worth my it's not worth my while I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to sell the property, which might be good news for homeowners,

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<v Speaker 4>but at the moment, the homeowning crisis is on the

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<v Speaker 4>back burner because we have a rental crisis that is

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<v Speaker 4>far more acute and people literally not being able to

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<v Speaker 4>get a roof over their heads. So either it increases

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<v Speaker 4>the cost of renting, or it deprives the rental market

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<v Speaker 4>of a potential property.

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<v Speaker 3>And it is just absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lose if we may indulge, if we may

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<v Speaker 2>indulge in in a short musical interlude, if I were

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<v Speaker 2>a landlord in Victoria, this is how I would be

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<v Speaker 2>feeling right now. And I am a landlord, but not

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<v Speaker 2>in Victoria, thank god. And this is exactly what landlords

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<v Speaker 2>are saying. I mean they're saying. You know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>one landlord who quoted in the Herald son I reckon

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<v Speaker 2>a mass exodus by landlords is coming from the rental market.

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<v Speaker 2>They are making a serious rental problem. Even worse, the

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<v Speaker 2>timing is appalling. And this is the problem is there's

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<v Speaker 2>been this argument from the Greens in particular, and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>this is a labor government, but the Greens argue we've

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<v Speaker 2>got to have rental caps and all this sort of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff because you know, all the evil landlords. The vast

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<v Speaker 2>majority of rental sorry, the vast majority of landlords in

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<v Speaker 2>this country are mum and dad investors. They have fewer

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<v Speaker 2>than three properties, and they also own the majority of

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<v Speaker 2>mental properties within the country. So if you do things

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<v Speaker 2>around the edges to say, okay, we don't want these

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<v Speaker 2>evil people owning rental properties. They either have to cop

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<v Speaker 2>the increased cost, which they don't. As Joe said, it

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<v Speaker 2>goes on to the renter, which is the last thing

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<v Speaker 2>the renters need right now, or as you said, they

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<v Speaker 2>sell it now. When you sell a property right now,

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<v Speaker 2>the property is worth a fair bit of money. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the market we're living in, which means that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people who are currently renting. Let's say the person

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<v Speaker 2>who is currently living in that rental property probably doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have enough money to stump up a deposit.

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<v Speaker 3>To buy it.

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<v Speaker 2>So who do you think comes in and buys that

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<v Speaker 2>one bedroom unit in the city that this person bought

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<v Speaker 2>as an investment Another investor, except that investor has lots

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<v Speaker 2>of money because they can cop the increase in the

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<v Speaker 2>cost of running the thing. So what you do is

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<v Speaker 2>concentrate the number of landlords down from your average mum

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<v Speaker 2>and dad investor to big investors. Happens is the communists

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<v Speaker 2>actually end up supporting big business because the only person

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<v Speaker 2>who will be able to be a landlord in this

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<v Speaker 2>country is someone who has shed loads of money, and

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<v Speaker 2>funnily enough, many of them profess to be close enough

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<v Speaker 2>to communists because they will.

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<v Speaker 4>Vote for the Greens well, plenty of Green's VMPs own

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<v Speaker 4>mouthful investment properties. It's always a global to reveal. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>perhaps side. But more to the point, what people do

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<v Speaker 4>not understand, what people who believe in a command economy

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<v Speaker 4>simply do not understand, is that the economy doesn't do

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<v Speaker 4>what you tell it to. You can't just order the

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<v Speaker 4>economy to do something.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is a perfect example. Rental caps are another example.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't put a gun to someone's head and say right,

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<v Speaker 4>be an investment property owner because people will look at

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<v Speaker 4>all these If you want more of something, you make

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<v Speaker 4>it more attractive for people to invest in it, not

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<v Speaker 4>less attractive. So you make it easier for people to

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<v Speaker 4>get into the investment property market and easier for them

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<v Speaker 4>to rent it out, and that will create more people

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<v Speaker 4>investing in the property market, whether they're big or small investors,

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<v Speaker 4>and it will create more investment properties. If you make

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<v Speaker 4>it harder, put things like rental caps, rental freezers, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>forcing people to put in capital works to make it

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<v Speaker 4>more climate friendly, people will say, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just going to put my money out as well, and

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<v Speaker 4>it might not even be and then another investment property

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<v Speaker 4>owner coming in. It might be another homeowner, in which

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<v Speaker 4>case that house gets taken over the market. And the

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<v Speaker 4>people who would otherwise invest in property, which would provide

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<v Speaker 4>more properties to the rental market, We'll say, I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>going to invest in something else. Ilp CBA News Court

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<v Speaker 4>my new podcast, The Real.

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<v Speaker 2>Story with Joe Wants Shavelss.

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<v Speaker 6>I love it, But how is it that average Joe's

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<v Speaker 6>literally yes, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know this is a new memoir.

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<v Speaker 6>By the way, it's so obvious, right, and yet our

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<v Speaker 6>own government who's running the place, just seems hell bent

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<v Speaker 6>on ruining the place. I mean, at such a time

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<v Speaker 6>as this, you honestly think that the best state of

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<v Speaker 6>play is to bankrupt landlords golf clap for you, government,

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<v Speaker 6>You've simply.

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<v Speaker 5>Got to be a hit.

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<v Speaker 4>This is what the left. This is what the left

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<v Speaker 4>does when they look at these things. So they'll look

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<v Speaker 4>at things, and they will look at the starts, and

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<v Speaker 4>they'll look at all these investment property owners and say,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, but they've got all these people here, and

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<v Speaker 4>if we just make them do this with the stroke

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<v Speaker 4>of a pen, we'll deliver all this pile of money

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<v Speaker 4>over here. And then we'll make a rule say that

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<v Speaker 4>they can't job.

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<v Speaker 5>To see the domino effects before.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't understand if they don't understand human behavior, they

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<v Speaker 4>don't understand that they don't understand respect individual behavior and

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<v Speaker 4>how those kind of what Paul keating One's famously called

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<v Speaker 4>animal forces influenced the market. But the bottom bottom line

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<v Speaker 4>is if your own car in Victoria, you're screw and

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<v Speaker 4>if you own a house in Victoria, you're screwed.

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<v Speaker 6>Even a few months ago that we were talking about

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<v Speaker 6>that patch in Victoria which had decided that every rooftop

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<v Speaker 6>now had to be white.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think actually, I think it was a climate

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<v Speaker 2>and it was one of the South Australia as well,

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<v Speaker 2>where they've manned and you can't have dark rus. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's not to mention that the landtek situation of Victoria

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment as well, which is just out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people who have property and the money they're

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<v Speaker 2>asking for has gone through the roof and everything's everything's racist. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>And if I were a renter in Victoria and my

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<v Speaker 2>landlord was told that they had to put a four

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<v Speaker 2>star shower head in my rental property, I'd be really

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<v Speaker 2>peeved because four star shower head is code for one

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<v Speaker 2>of those things with you know, the lowercal low meter

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<v Speaker 2>in it, so it literally just trickles. I don't want that.

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<v Speaker 2>I want a shower head that actually works. While we're

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<v Speaker 2>on matters of the climate, let's talk about electric vehicles.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you love talking about electric vehicles. I love

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<v Speaker 2>talking about electric vehicles because we hate them. And once again,

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<v Speaker 2>another study has proven exactly this. Now the study comes

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<v Speaker 2>to an interesting conclusion, which I will get to in

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, but what they're basically suggesting, this is from

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<v Speaker 2>Monash University's Climate Work Center, is that if we want

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<v Speaker 2>to reach our twenty thirty emissions targets, which of course

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton has said if he was Prime Minister he

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<v Speaker 2>would scrap and ignore. If we want to reach that target,

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<v Speaker 2>we need seventy three percent of all new vehicles sold

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<v Speaker 2>in this country by twenty thirty to be electric. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that is simply not going to happen. And I will

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<v Speaker 2>remind you that the federal government, before it was the

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<v Speaker 2>federal government when it was still in opposition, forecast in

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<v Speaker 2>order to boost its likelihood of reaching these twenty thirty targets,

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<v Speaker 2>that eighty nine percent of vehicles sold in this country

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<v Speaker 2>by twenty thirty would be electric. The Federal Transport Department

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<v Speaker 2>now says it will be something like twenty seven percent,

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<v Speaker 2>So they're kind of losing out on that. If we

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<v Speaker 2>had just fifty six percent of vehicles sold in this

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<v Speaker 2>country being electric by twenty thirty, we would still miss

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<v Speaker 2>our transport emission goals by twenty one percent. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you might look at that. I look at that and go, well,

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<v Speaker 2>surely that means that the target is just a load

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<v Speaker 2>of bunker. It's never going to happen. Well, Monash University

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<v Speaker 2>says there is another solution, which is basically, give up

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<v Speaker 2>your car entirely. If we can't have evs, just don't

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<v Speaker 2>drive at all. They have suggested that you basically we're

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<v Speaker 2>putting all our eggs in one basket talking about EV's,

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<v Speaker 2>And the problem is not so much that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we should be moving to EV's, which means you keep

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<v Speaker 2>driving as much as you are now. No no, no, no, no

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<v Speaker 2>no no. It's much more complex than that. Get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of your car, get on public transport. Don't get on

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<v Speaker 2>a plane, they say, use a train instead. Don't use

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<v Speaker 2>a truck to transport cars, transport coupble cars, as well,

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<v Speaker 2>but cars and food and whatever around the country use

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<v Speaker 2>rail instead, Isn't it funny? This is where we're going.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>EV's are a great idea, fantastic if our middle panasa.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they worked out that ain't going to work. So

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<v Speaker 2>why do we need cars at all? Just get on

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<v Speaker 2>the bus, you bludge.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, this is straight out of the climate communism handbook

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<v Speaker 6>that Joe doesn't sound.

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<v Speaker 5>We've constantly got proof of it staring at our faces.

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<v Speaker 6>But look, the EV takeup has slowed very fast here

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<v Speaker 6>in Australia. In April for the first time in over

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<v Speaker 6>three years, it was down just five percent. Now that's

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<v Speaker 6>not huge, but they're predicting that this is just going

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<v Speaker 6>to keep tanking. Tesla alone also in April their sales

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<v Speaker 6>were down by forty four percent.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is Twitter.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not the virtue signals. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 6>This is despite all the retailers heavily discounting their EV

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<v Speaker 6>they're trying to, yes, make them much cheaper, make them

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<v Speaker 6>much more attainable for people. But the thing is other

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<v Speaker 6>than the resale value diving, so people are like, this

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<v Speaker 6>is not a wise investment. The government instead of having rebates,

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<v Speaker 6>instead of having any kind of tax incentive simply needs

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<v Speaker 6>to build the infrastructure, which they have.

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<v Speaker 5>Failed to do so terribly.

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<v Speaker 6>You can't encourage people to buy cars if there aren't

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<v Speaker 6>available chargers ready to go, and that's to put all

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<v Speaker 6>the other problems aside. But what incentive right now do

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<v Speaker 6>people have in terms of when am I going to

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<v Speaker 6>be able to fuel up?

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<v Speaker 5>It's dismal in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless, of course you live in the city. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>only situation where an electric car kind of makes sense,

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<v Speaker 2>but it blows the whole thing out of the water.

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<v Speaker 2>And because there are lots of people driving evs around

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<v Speaker 2>which are powered fundamentally by coal fired power, particularly in

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<v Speaker 2>a state like Queensland or New South Wales, they can

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<v Speaker 2>feel so virtuous about it, but they're driving around thinking

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing their bit for the planet. What Monash is

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<v Speaker 2>uncovered is essentially that nothing is really going to be

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<v Speaker 2>done for the planet because no one wants to buy them.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to buy the numbers they need to

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<v Speaker 2>actually make any impact. And that the chairman of Toyota

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<v Speaker 2>said back in January, I mean, look, he's in the

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<v Speaker 2>business of selling cars. He is the chairman of one

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest car manufacturers in the world, So if

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<v Speaker 2>he wants his job is to make money. Pieces that

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<v Speaker 2>we'll only ever reach thirty percent of cars in the

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<v Speaker 2>world being electric. The rest will be made up by

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<v Speaker 2>hydrogen and hybrid basically right, because it looks abats the

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<v Speaker 2>world that don't actually have access to power all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not going to be So everyone in the sector

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<v Speaker 2>knows it and says it. Monash University says it ain't working.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do we keep going down this way?

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<v Speaker 4>Because the climate debate has been hijacked by idea logs,

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<v Speaker 4>for whom the perfect is the good communists, if you will,

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<v Speaker 4>I would call them climate idea logs. But yes, they

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<v Speaker 4>they despise so they despise gas, which all the smart

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<v Speaker 4>people in the debates we see is a really important

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<v Speaker 4>component at least as we transition to renewables, so at

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<v Speaker 4>least for the next five to ten whatever years. And

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<v Speaker 4>yet you've got people saying coals. You know, gas is

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<v Speaker 4>just as bad as coal. That is a lie, that

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<v Speaker 4>is just incorrect, that is just unfactual. That is a

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<v Speaker 4>bare face, bald face provable demonstrable light trust the science.

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<v Speaker 4>And so you have people and the same sort of

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<v Speaker 4>people obviously will not even talk about nuclear will not

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<v Speaker 4>even allow it to enter the discussion, which I think

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<v Speaker 4>is foolish. I'm not sure if it economically stacks up

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<v Speaker 4>at the moment, but it may well in the future,

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<v Speaker 4>and which should be on the table. And they also

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<v Speaker 4>have the same approach, of course to hybrid cars. So

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<v Speaker 4>a car that burns any fuel at all, ever is

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<v Speaker 4>Persona on Grada. And the problem with that, of course

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<v Speaker 4>is that there are heaps and heaps of that. That

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<v Speaker 4>creates obviously shrinking demand, which means a car makers are

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<v Speaker 4>less likely to make them and sell them and mark

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<v Speaker 4>them and shire them to Australia. And the problem with

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<v Speaker 4>that is that hybrid cars actually solve ninety percent of

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<v Speaker 4>the problems that people have with pure electric cars, which

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<v Speaker 4>is range anxiety, range anxiety, range anxiety, range anxiety, range anxiety,

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<v Speaker 4>power and range anxiety. And so you could have like

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<v Speaker 4>a you could have like those.

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<v Speaker 3>Big forward ranges that everybody loves.

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<v Speaker 4>The most popular car in Australia, if that's a hybrid model.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have to worry about pulling your trailer or

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<v Speaker 4>your caravan when you have to, because you've got the

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<v Speaker 4>petrol there if you need you don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 4>about running out if you're doing a big camping people

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever, like, you know, not paying the powers, they're

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<v Speaker 4>not being able to charge it up because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you've got the fuel there if you need it. So

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<v Speaker 4>it just provides that safety net. But because you've got

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<v Speaker 4>all these people say no, you can't have any petrol

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<v Speaker 4>em it's all evil, just like no, we can't have

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<v Speaker 4>any gas, it's all evil. Yet suddenly the Victorian government

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<v Speaker 4>is laying for gas and they're absolutely right that more

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<v Speaker 4>people should be using rail and especially goods should be

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<v Speaker 4>using rail, not roads, and that just everybody knows that,

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<v Speaker 4>everyone in the industry knows that that's not even just

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<v Speaker 4>a climate thing. That is just an absolute no brain.

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<v Speaker 4>It's better for residents, it's more efficient, it's cheaper, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's the rail percise so you know it's cheap for

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<v Speaker 2>if the lines exist.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>And if we turn back over the page to find

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<v Speaker 4>the Victorian government is forcing all these landlords to effectively

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<v Speaker 4>jack up their rents so they can make their houses

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<v Speaker 4>more energy efficient and save the climate. And you've got

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<v Speaker 4>Monash University in Victoria saying, well, we need to make

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<v Speaker 4>sure there are better rail options for people so that

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<v Speaker 4>they're not driving their cars.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, how do you get to the airport in Melbourne

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<v Speaker 7>and not rail? They had an airport railing that was

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<v Speaker 7>there on the cars, but because they so utterly effed

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<v Speaker 7>up their COVID response, they now have no money to

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<v Speaker 7>build that. So they're forcing people to very much do

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<v Speaker 7>as I say, not as I do. They're forcing people

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<v Speaker 7>to bear all these costs and then pass them on

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<v Speaker 7>to the most vulnerable people in the community, i e.

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<v Speaker 7>Renters trying to afford a roof over their head. Well,

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<v Speaker 7>at the same time, they're not doing the very obvious

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<v Speaker 7>thing that they could be doing to achieve that same goal.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know what leads, I'm going to give you

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<v Speaker 7>two for two. It's climate communism.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 4>But in New South Wales, of course, where the beautiful

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<v Speaker 4>and very handsome Chris Men's Rules or Groan South Australia,

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 4>where the incredibly are slightly less handsome but slightly taller

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<v Speaker 4>Peter Melanowski, These labor right enclaves of liberty and justice

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<v Speaker 4>and truth on handsomely for.

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<v Speaker 6>This mine loyalty jo to the UK now, where economists

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<v Speaker 6>have discovered that despite the record breaking in ation that

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<v Speaker 6>the UK has seen over the last ten years, productivity

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<v Speaker 6>has almost at an old time low, it's not actually

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<v Speaker 6>resulting in better living.

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<v Speaker 5>Standards in Britain. Who knew.

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<v Speaker 6>Check out this quote from think tank Resolution Foundation. They say,

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<v Speaker 6>although the UK population is projected to grow by one

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<v Speaker 6>point eight million over the next parliament, the number of

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<v Speaker 6>hours worked isn't expected to rise as quickly as population growth.

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:33.360
<v Speaker 5>Is offset by a.

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<v Speaker 6>Higher share of employment made up by groups who worked

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 6>shorter hours on average, such as women and young people,

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<v Speaker 6>and an older workforce who are less likely to be

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<v Speaker 6>employed in.

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<v Speaker 5>The first place.

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<v Speaker 6>Check Out this graph of UK productivity since twenty and nineteen.

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<v Speaker 6>You would see that big dip there, and well it's not.

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<v Speaker 5>Looking too good.

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<v Speaker 6>So I found this interesting because this is what we're

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<v Speaker 6>doing here in Australia.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously, we're like.

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<v Speaker 6>We need immigrants, we need immigrants, we need more people

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<v Speaker 6>politicians alike Christ for our future. This is for and

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<v Speaker 6>yet countries who have done similar don't look like they're

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<v Speaker 6>faring much better.

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<v Speaker 3>Is after Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>Australia has a skilled migration program and we always have

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<v Speaker 4>and we are prioritize workforce need, not how much they

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<v Speaker 4>can pay, not how long they've been waiting. We do

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<v Speaker 4>have it smaller, much much more humanitarian progress.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so how how how is ours going to work better?

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<v Speaker 4>Because because we select migrants based on the skills shortages

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<v Speaker 4>we have in the country, soon does the UK not

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<v Speaker 4>as not as much? And before Brexit they of course

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<v Speaker 4>had they shared boards with au so for quite so

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<v Speaker 4>much freely and oh no, but the Tories were still

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<v Speaker 4>in charge. So they're talking about the period that the

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.439
<v Speaker 4>Tories were in charge. And and of course you know,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the things that fuel Brexit was a huge

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<v Speaker 4>influx of Polish immigrants, which upset people in the North

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<v Speaker 4>of England in particular. So I don't think it is

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily comparing apples and apples.

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<v Speaker 3>And again this says.

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<v Speaker 4>That, you know, the UK productivity has been plumbing since

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<v Speaker 4>twenty nineteen, so that's a long period of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be honest, though, if we didn't have the levels

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<v Speaker 2>of migration that we have in this country at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>we would be in recession. We are already effectively in recession.

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Having high migration simply props up the economy.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to eat a recession.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a good It is not a good thing

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<v Speaker 2>when you okay, so great, we're not We're not actually

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<v Speaker 2>in recession. We're technically in recession. We're not actually in recession.

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 2>But your cost of living keeps going up because we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the houses for people to live in, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the schools for their kids to go to.

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<v Speaker 2>So at what point does the snake stop eating its

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<v Speaker 2>own tail? Bring bring all the Part of the part

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<v Speaker 2>of the reason why the economy cause inflation.

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<v Speaker 4>Part of the reason why we are not building houses

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<v Speaker 4>as quickly as we could and as quickly as we should,

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<v Speaker 4>is because there is a shortfall of around ninety thousand

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 4>laborers and tradees. We need to build the houses to

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<v Speaker 4>reach the targets of the.

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<v Speaker 5>List on the skills that important that.

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<v Speaker 4>Was there there were no there was There were some,

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<v Speaker 4>but there's still a huge number of of like things

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<v Speaker 4>like carpenters and electricians and everything. They are on that list.

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<v Speaker 4>They are prioritized, and we are bringing them in as

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<v Speaker 4>much as we possibly can. Kills every there were some

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<v Speaker 4>skills that apparently they seem to think that they had

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<v Speaker 4>enough of whatever looked pretty weird to me. But where

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<v Speaker 4>there were shortages, clearly we're in. We're in starkers and

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<v Speaker 4>carpenters and I think joiners as well, and and they're

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<v Speaker 4>bringing those in. They are on the priority list, and

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<v Speaker 4>they are indicative that people we're bringing. Why we're bringing

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<v Speaker 4>the yogis and stuff, I do not know, but they

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<v Speaker 4>are on the list. And that is an example of

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<v Speaker 4>why just saying we're going to cut migration and that

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<v Speaker 4>will solve the housing crisis is simply not how the markets.

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<v Speaker 5>Six billion increase.

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<v Speaker 6>They did it for the same reasons that we always

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<v Speaker 6>say we're doing it too, and it simply hasn't had.

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<v Speaker 5>The effect that they need to guess.

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<v Speaker 6>It has propped up their economy since twenty ten quite effectively,

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<v Speaker 6>but in twenty twenty four it ain't cutting it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's right. The economy isn't growing it much.

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 5>I think we're going to fare anything.

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<v Speaker 4>That's because the conservative government is doing a terrible job

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<v Speaker 4>of managing the economy, and when Labor gets elected under

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 4>kyos Dama, everything's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm sure you're the one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that sure it will absolutely work like that. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>if we could well, maybe the UK could consider getting

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<v Speaker 2>rid of some of these migrants who have not contributed

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 2>to the country. And certainly we'd like to get through

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<v Speaker 2>the rid of a few people who've tried to get

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<v Speaker 2>into this country illegally. We know a few of them

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<v Speaker 2>have actually made it to land since Labor came to power.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what happens when you look like you're soft

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 2>on boarders. People think you are soft on borders, so

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 2>they attempt to get into the country. We've had I

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<v Speaker 2>think more than forty of them actually made it to

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 2>land since last year. So the opposition has raised the

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 2>idea today that if we encounter the people smugglers who

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 2>are bringing them here instead of sending them home, and

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 2>this is what has happened previously, we've literally, if we've

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<v Speaker 2>had the opportunity detain them and then release them without charge,

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 2>we should keep them in this country and charge them

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<v Speaker 2>with the crime of people smuggling and then put them

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<v Speaker 2>through the court system here. Now, apparently there's some idea

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>that maybe when they go back home to Indonesia or

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 2>wherever they've come from, that they might be dealt with

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 2>over there, but it's very clear that that's not what's happening,

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<v Speaker 2>James Patterson said today he's the Opposition Home a fair spokesman.

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<v Speaker 2>It is concerning that, in at least one instance that

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<v Speaker 2>we know of and alleged people, smuggler face no charges

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 2>in either Australia or Indonesia for his crimes. There's no

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 2>deterrent if there are no consequences, in which he is

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 2>quite right now, the biggest problem is actually being able

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<v Speaker 2>to get hold of these people in the first place,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm sure many of them do absolutely everything to

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<v Speaker 2>avoid either being on the boat at the time, because

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>it's quite possible for person ferrying the boat is not

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<v Speaker 2>the one who took the money. But still, if we

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 2>capture someone who is trying to smuggle people into this country,

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 2>why would we let them go. They have illegally tried

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 2>to get people into this country, they should face the

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<v Speaker 2>full force of the law in Australia.

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<v Speaker 6>It would be Firstly, you're quite right, the first problem

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 6>is catching this person. But let's say, for the sake

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<v Speaker 6>of argument, you manage to and you knew for sure

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<v Speaker 6>this was the architect and the person actually doing it

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 6>once you got them into a court, then what I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, seriously say they're found guilty, what the taxpayer

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<v Speaker 6>gets to lock them up for?

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 5>How long?

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<v Speaker 6>In Australia, Like, what is the punishment? We obviously can't

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 6>find them. They probably don't have all that much money themselves,

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 6>So in a way I can understand why the government's

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<v Speaker 6>justlid well, we'll boot you out to your country. I mean,

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 6>if we had a flogging system here like Singapore or something,

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<v Speaker 6>that would be simple, just give them a hiding and

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 6>send them home and they wouldn't do it again.

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 5>However, we have this what I think.

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 6>Is a ridiculous judicial system, well whatever you want to

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 6>call it, where our only punishment that we meet out

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 6>in this country is jail time, which actually isn't that bad.

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 6>Prisoner's right, through all the rage, I've got a master's

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 6>degree in human rights, You'll actually be treated very well

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.479
<v Speaker 6>in there. In fact, some people want to stay instead

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 6>of leaves. But it doesn't make sense to me that literally,

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 6>you could commit the most heinous crime and you all

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 6>get the same punishment, the only difference being the amount

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 6>of time that you're locked up with three square meals

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 6>a day and a roof over your head, and the

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<v Speaker 6>same would go for these guys they.

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<v Speaker 5>Just end up costing us how much in taxpayer doll

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<v Speaker 5>it way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the point is though, that if you have

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<v Speaker 2>one bloke who gets locked up for ten years for

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 2>trying to smuggle people into the country, it's sends the

0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 2>mesage overseas that you shouldn't do. So I don't think

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:01.959
<v Speaker 2>we're going to have a situation where we're locking up

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 2>hundreds and hundreds of people. The point is to send

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 2>the message in the hopes that by spending whatever you

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 2>spend on keeping the dude in jail, it's less than

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<v Speaker 2>what you have to spend on trying to stop them

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<v Speaker 2>getting to the border in.

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<v Speaker 6>The first place.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, look, I'm sure. I mean, James Pattison's a very

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.399
<v Speaker 4>smart bloke and I'm sure he's thought about this and

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 4>he would have more inside knowledge of it. Although I

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 4>do know how Operation Sovereign Borders worked, and that simply

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't function. There's no way that this could happen if

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 4>Operation Sovereign Borders was working as it used to under

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:38.879
<v Speaker 4>the Abbic government. But I don't understand how it would work.

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't understand. Firstly, presumably the people smuggler would have

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 4>to make landfall. Presumably they would have to make landfall

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:51.720
<v Speaker 4>on mainland Australia. Then if I was a people smuggler,

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't say, Hey, I'm a people smuggler, prosecute me.

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 4>I'd say, oh, I'm just a humble asylum seeker, I'm

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 4>seeking asylum, and then you have to go through all

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 4>that rigmarole. If they were on if they were encountered

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 4>or incepted offshore and then taken to Naru or Christmas

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 4>Island or whatever, then presumably the same things would apply

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 4>to all the other asylum seekers there, and they'd say

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 4>they were in asylum seeker. To disprove that they were

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 4>an sylum seeker, you would then have to I suppose,

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 4>gather evidence, and then you have to be able to

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 4>prosecute them in a quarter.

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<v Speaker 5>It would be very difficult.

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't get how that happens. And again I

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 4>can't really say exactly what the process of operations sovereign

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 4>Borders was, but I think pretty self evidently it was

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 4>very specifically designed and executed so that these boats never

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 4>actually made it to Australian territories or to Australian policy.

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:47.320
<v Speaker 4>That's right, and so are you then going to go out,

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 4>and of course you have to force the boat to

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 4>turn back, and that's another that's sort of how it was.

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.880
<v Speaker 4>But anyway, you're then going to go out and say,

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 4>all right, we're turning all you back, except you you

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 4>look like you're in charge. You're coming with me.

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 2>No. I think the idea is that in the case

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 2>we talked about, they had a people spandler, he wants detained.

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Why was he not charged?

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 5>I'm not you know of one instance?

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 6>To me, it sounds for all the world like and

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 6>the opposition is regularly doing this. Now we all know

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:22.879
<v Speaker 6>we've got an election coming up, it's just.

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:23.720
<v Speaker 5>A matter of months.

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 6>Now it's not called, but it's it's gonna be soon.

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:28.839
<v Speaker 5>Is next year?

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:34.439
<v Speaker 6>That coming up with these ideas that really show off

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 6>their difference to obviously the ruling party, but doesn't really

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:42.320
<v Speaker 6>have I said the same last week about the whole

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 6>Any student who's from another country who's participating in these

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 6>protests on campus will be deported type thing. And I'm like, look,

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 6>I know what you're doing. You're it's it's smart, you're

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 6>appealing to the sentiment of the day, But have you

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 6>thought that through what that would take, what that would

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 6>look like this just sounds like another one of those.

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 2>Quite possibly true. I still think it has merit. And now,

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 2>very quickly before we get to the break, I just

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.879
<v Speaker 2>want to give a little shout out our stylist here

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:15.240
<v Speaker 2>that Sky News Nadia had few for her father today

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 2>Nick and her mother Adele is a loyal viewer of

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:23.800
<v Speaker 2>the late debate. We love you love on a hard day. Anyway,

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 2>After the break, we will get into the papers. We'll

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 2>tell you which suburb has the most cancer causing chemicals

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 2>in its tap water. You won't want to misstad don't

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 2>go away. Let's get into the papers, starting with the

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Tasmanian Mercury tomorrow where, oh my god, another bit of

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 2>environmental nonsense sow dare I say environmental communism? Handful of plants,

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 2>whole twenty eight million dollar bottleneck works, rare orchid stalls road,

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:57.280
<v Speaker 2>a handful of rare orchids, and a recalcuitrant. Federal minister

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>are being blamed for sending twenty eight million dollars in

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 2>upgrades to a major Hobart traffic bottleneck. Back to the

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:08.760
<v Speaker 2>drawing board. Look, may I humbly suggest that we send

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:12.800
<v Speaker 2>out a gardener, say a council gardener who is already

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 2>employed by the state government by proxy of course, working

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:19.880
<v Speaker 2>through a council to I don't know, lift these orchids

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 2>out of the ground and replant them somewhere else so

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 2>they can build a road through the middle.

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 3>Of the Kayla.

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<v Speaker 1>They're rare, well, they can be rarey those they can

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>just be rare elsewhere, Like surely, surely, surely it's well done.

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Surely, surely you can move an orchid living.

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 4>Remember it's good to know that Hobart has finally gotten

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:45.919
<v Speaker 4>its green and golden bell frog. You remember the green

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 4>golden bell frog that kept held up the Olympics. Remember,

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 4>we're going to have to cancel the Olympics because they

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:52.840
<v Speaker 4>found some weird frog that no one had ever heard of.

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<v Speaker 2>They do this, They do this all the time, and

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 2>normally it comes in the form of law fare. It's

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:01.280
<v Speaker 2>what they kept doing to the the native timber industry

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.840
<v Speaker 2>down in Victoria before Daniel Andrews the Prick decided that

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 2>he'd get rid of the whole lot. They would do

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 2>all these activists to go in there and say, oh,

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 2>there's some sort of rare, possible gliding thing in here.

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Then they would go to the court. The court would

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 2>grant an injunction and they'd make whoever owned all the

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 2>land go off and do a survey of literally every

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 2>single square inch to just to make sure that there

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 2>were none of those particular animals in there.

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 6>They you just go out there the night before the

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 6>inspection with a shotgun, get real busy, and they're like,

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 6>not very recommended that a dead orchard to the runway

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 6>to the advertiser.

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 5>Now tapwater, chemical cancer fear. I love this topic. I

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 5>will bang on about it forever.

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.799
<v Speaker 6>A leafy Eastern suburb has been identified as having the

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 6>country's highest levels of contaminants. We're talking about pea fast people.

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 5>We've linked to cancer.

0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 6>In its drinking water with historical data calling into question

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 6>Australia's testing standards.

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 5>We don't need to call.

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 6>Into question the Australia's testing standards. Our government allows pfas

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 6>in your drinking water and everything else. By the way,

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 6>it's in your food, it's in your cooking implements, it's

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 6>in your tooth floss ladies, it's in your period products.

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:26.359
<v Speaker 6>They literally, they being our government, just don't seem to

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 6>really care. Whoever manufactures these things is allowed to use

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.840
<v Speaker 6>chemicals that they know are completely and utterly toxic.

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:36.279
<v Speaker 5>They're called forever.

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 6>Chemicals because they don't break down in the environment and

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 6>they don't break down in your body. The US had

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:45.720
<v Speaker 6>a report from the Endocrine Society beginning of this year

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 6>that showed in twenty eighteen alone, the United States of

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 6>America spent two hundred and fifty billion dollars on healthcare

0:40:55.400 --> 0:41:00.439
<v Speaker 6>costs associated with the fallout the effects the diseases that

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 6>pfas are having on the human body in America. And

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 6>if you think it's any better here, it's not. I

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 6>just think this is criminal because there are people with

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:15.320
<v Speaker 6>health effects that would never even think to blame p fas.

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 6>And we have governments state and federal, never talk about

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 6>it and will never lift a finger to do it,

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 6>because then industry would be like, how dare you make

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:28.280
<v Speaker 6>us stop quietly poisoning people under the rug?

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 2>And I did promise to say which suburb it was,

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.879
<v Speaker 2>by the way, it's Glenunga in Adelaide. So you might

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 2>want to go and boil your water a few more

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 2>times before you have a cap of tea tonight. But

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:41.760
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about this before in that the federal government

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:45.359
<v Speaker 2>has already admitted the damage caused by pfas because they've

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 2>paid out millions and millions of dollars in compensation to

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 2>people who live next to raft based vifi phone right

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 2>and it's leached out into their soil. And of course

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 2>people were growing veggies and whatever in that soil. Then

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 2>they find out the PFA is in the soil, They're like,

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:02.520
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, what have I been doing for the

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 2>last forty years? And now they're probably not worth anything

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 2>because it's full of full of these chemicals. Given the

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 2>US has made the decision to restrict so much more

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 2>heavily than we have the levels that are allowed to

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:18.240
<v Speaker 2>be found in drinking water, why did the federal government

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 2>he had not just wake up the next day and

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 2>do exactly the same thing, Like what have they?

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:24.879
<v Speaker 4>I honestly do not know, but it's terrifying, and that's

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 4>why I drink nothing but alcohol. I am completely thank

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 4>you very much, jails, everything don't including the host.

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Don't drink water because we know what fish do in

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:38.240
<v Speaker 2>that stuff. You're much better off drinking wine, which comes interesting.

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 4>In the Middle Ages, it was safer to drink beer

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 4>and wine than it was water. I was just born

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 4>in the wrong age, wasn't I over the odds now?

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 4>And an absolute cracker Jack story on the top of

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 4>the front the top banner. You will not believe this

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:54.320
<v Speaker 4>union sounds over AFL to force sacking of umpires bosses

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 4>see if MEAU. Victorian leader John Secker has threatened to

0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 4>impose a work to rule campaign against the AFL on

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 4>any league related projects, including the proposed Tasmanian Stadium, unless

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 4>the league sacks the former building watchdog Steve mcbernie from

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 4>the role of head of umpiring. I mean, I don't

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 4>agree with every decision either, but there seems to be

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 4>a slight overreaction. I love to be holding the ball.

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 2>John, Well, look, let's if it has something to do

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 2>with them, you know, getting rid of umpires who make

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 2>bad decisions when it comes to the Ala Football Club.

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 2>I may, for the first time in my life give

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 2>my full support to the CFMU. But I love these

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 2>quotes from John Seth Care. He says, you know it'll

0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 2>have implications for the AFL, but he goes on to

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:39.280
<v Speaker 2>saying this is going to cost the AFL a lot

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 2>of efing money. I hope it's worth it. Projects without

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:46.759
<v Speaker 2>our full cooperation, are going to be an e fing

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 2>misery for them. They will regret the day they ever

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:55.240
<v Speaker 2>employed him. I mention the cf MEU they've got total

0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 2>they've got so much control over all the the work sites,

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 2>They've got so much control over the government in Victoria.

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 2>They want to take control of the councils in Victoria

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:08.920
<v Speaker 2>because they want to get all the council workers under

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Now they're going to take control of the AFL as well.

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Is what is left for the see for me you

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 2>to conquer?

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:18.240
<v Speaker 5>Is it going to work?

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:18.360
<v Speaker 2>So?

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:22.760
<v Speaker 6>I mean he hasn't conquered it unless they they actually

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:23.399
<v Speaker 6>come to this part.

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:24.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't okay, it's just such a good yarn. I

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 3>don't care work.

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 4>And of course the splash in the eyes clashes to

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:33.880
<v Speaker 4>mar Panda diplomacy. Police are preparing for potential clashes between

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 4>patriotic Chinese and Anti's China protesters when Premier Lee Quane

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 4>visits Camber next week, after Beijing urged its Australian supporters

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 4>to show up in force to welcome the country's number

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 4>two leader. The call out came as Anthony Albanezy framed

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 4>mister Lee's trip as a boost for Australia's economic prosperity,

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 4>noting China's hunger for the nation's resources, including critical minerals.

0:44:57.920 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 4>Let's have a listen to what a great man had

0:44:59.680 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 4>to say.

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 8>I repeat what I said in Shanghai when I was asked,

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 8>my government is pro panda, we like panda bearsh and

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:11.840
<v Speaker 8>so do I reckon Australians.

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.920
<v Speaker 4>Okay, before everyone just jumps all over it, let's get

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 4>it all out of the way. It's going to be pandemonium.

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:24.720
<v Speaker 4>Aren't we just pandering to the Chinese in the wake

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:28.360
<v Speaker 4>of the panda emic. Well, personally, I think this is

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 4>just shameless Chinese government proper panda. But the real problem

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 4>with the pandas at Adelaide Zoo is that they are

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 4>just not mating. They're not doing the do wang Wang's

0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 4>little wang Wang isn't wang wang. So this is how

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 4>I thought we could solve the problem. Little how to

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 4>video for you.

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 9>Then in luck folks, these two will become very very close,

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 9>if you know what I mean.

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Look, she's presenting. We thought this would take years to happen.

0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Think being just asked Simson to marry him, and I

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 1>think she just said yes.

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:19.799
<v Speaker 4>That's how you do it, folks, the Simpsons. It's been

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 4>our guide to life all along. We just weren't paying attention.

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 2>The Chinese premier can sort that one out when he

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 2>gets to Adelaide Zoo coming up out of the break.

0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 2>The two Russian women arrested on suspicion of murder. Why

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 2>you'll tell your name, Joe? Tell us about a curious

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 2>murder casing.

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 4>Russia Every once in a while, Cayleeb, you come across

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.160
<v Speaker 4>the story, that's just well, how can I put this?

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 3>Very Russian?

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:48.240
<v Speaker 4>Two women twenty nine and thirty seven beat a sixty

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:51.880
<v Speaker 4>three year old man to death, says the Daily Mail,

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:56.719
<v Speaker 4>after he refused to have a threesome with them. The

0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:59.440
<v Speaker 4>suspects were drinking with the sixty three year old in

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:02.879
<v Speaker 4>a church in Stavropol. Yes, in case it wasn't weird enough,

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 4>this happened in a cemetery. The female friends are accused

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 4>of beating the man to death when he refused to

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 4>have sex with him, according to Russian reports. Now I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to judge, but I'm just saying if that

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<v Speaker 4>man is me, he'd be alive today.

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<v Speaker 2>Well done, Joe. You wouldn't make it to a Netflix series,

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<v Speaker 2>though if it's I think it's faite to say, which

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<v Speaker 2>this has all the makings off. Now, last night we

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<v Speaker 2>promised you we're going to tell you how to end homelessness.

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<v Speaker 2>Over in California, the Governor Davin Newsom, he's found the way.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, he's so committed to it, he's been doing

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<v Speaker 2>it for sixteen years.

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<v Speaker 9>What we call a ten year plan end chronic holeness

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<v Speaker 9>in San Francisco. How are you going to sall homelessness?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you going to do?

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<v Speaker 5>It's a new mayor and I said, well, what are you.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to do?

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<v Speaker 9>Focused on a housing first model, direct access to housing, shelter,

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<v Speaker 9>soft sleep housing with wrap around and support services solve homelessness.

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<v Speaker 9>Homelessness absolutely can be solved, laid out a detailed homeless

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<v Speaker 9>There's been no intentionality on homelessness in this state for decades.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not been a focus.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't think we can solve homelessness.

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<v Speaker 5>I know we can solve homelessness.

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<v Speaker 9>We will reduce street homelessness quickly and humanly through emergency actions.

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<v Speaker 9>The highest investment the state's ever made is one billion

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<v Speaker 9>dollars on homelessness. We are poised to pass a budget

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<v Speaker 9>in the next few hours. That will provide twelve billion

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<v Speaker 9>dollars of investments that can literally quantify fifty eight thousand

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<v Speaker 9>people that we got off the streets last year, and

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<v Speaker 9>none of you would believe it. This state has not

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<v Speaker 9>made progress in the last two decades as relates to homelessness.

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<v Speaker 5>Not interested in funding failure.

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<v Speaker 9>We're not interested in failing more efficiently when it comes

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<v Speaker 9>to the issue of homelessness and the Christs on the street.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeez, been working hardly.

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<v Speaker 6>She's been working so hard, and yet as of December

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<v Speaker 6>last year, one hundred and eighty thousand people we're experiencing

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<v Speaker 6>homelessness in California his stage, and that was up six

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<v Speaker 6>percent from last count.

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<v Speaker 5>So had guess he's just still solving it.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon this bloke could replace Joe Biden. If he

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<v Speaker 2>trips over where lies Bo's homelessness will just go on

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<v Speaker 2>for another sixteen years, another sixteen after that. That's he

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<v Speaker 2>from us Tonight up next to Rita Paddock, Joe Gribart