WEBVTT - How I feel About Firing Someone 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:06.640 Hi, I'm Britney Saunders and welcome to Big Business, the 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:09.160 place where business is far from boring. And today I'm 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:12.200 recording on a wobbaicle land. Now, this episode in particular 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:14.680 that you're listening to is coming out during the Chrissy 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:19.120 Slash holiday break, and some podcasts take a break during 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.800 the Christmas break, but there's no break for me when 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:24.000 it comes to Big Business. 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But if you ever have a question 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:58.440 for me and you would like me to answer it 0:00:58.480 --> 0:00:59.920 on the pod, or maybe you've got like a sona 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.200 or you want advice on something I love doing these 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.080 kinds of episodes where I'm quite literally answering the questions 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.880 or scenarios or dilemmas that you have for me. Send 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.200 me a DM on that account because I don't get 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.520 anywhere near as many messages on that account as I 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:16.440 do on my main one. So if you've ever got 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:20.679 a question, slide into my Big Business Podcast dms and 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.080 let me know, because I love giving the listeners what 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.000 they want. Question number one, Are you against your staff 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:31.959 discussing their wages? Absolutely not. They're more than welcome to 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.520 discuss whatever they want with one another. And I have 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.600 heard I have heard stories like I don't like. I'm 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:42.280 sure they're true, but I've heard stories that some companies 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.600 have written it into their contracts that they're not allowed 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.360 kind of thing. And I don't know is that legal 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.320 or not. I don't know, but we've never had any 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:55.480 type of conversation like that with any of our team members. 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.800 It's not written anywhere. They can do whatever they want, 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:00.760 they can talk about whatever they want. And I think 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.360 that's another thing too. People are going to talk like 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.400 coworkers are going to talk, especially when they become friendly 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.560 with one another, and you can't really stop that, And 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.960 I mean, I don't know about the companies that have 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.079 written it into their contracts, like you must not discuss 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.760 your wage with someone else, But like I think people 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.760 are still going to talk regardless. So no, that's never 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.560 been an issue for us, and we've never had any 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.760 issues with that. And do our staff talk about their 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.919 wages with one another? Most likely, I'd say, but that's 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.160 fine by me. We've never had to have that conversation 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.560 or thought. But it's a very good question. The next 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:41.040 question comes from the same person. Shout out to this person, 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.640 you were sending me very juicy questions, And this question 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:45.640 is how many people have you fired? And was it 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:49.920 hard or easy? If I had to go back and think, 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.200 I want to say like less than five or it 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:57.519 could be like less than three. In my experience what 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.800 I've personally found, and I don't know if I can 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:04.799 for every other business owner, but when you're dealing with 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:08.880 a staff member who is heading down like the wrong 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:13.800 kind of way within your business, oftentimes in my experience, 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.880 they'll leave before you have to terminate their position. I 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.399 think just because like they would be aware of whatever's 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.880 happened or what's been going on, kind of thing. So 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.680 a lot of the time, you know, I find that 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.639 they kind of take themselves out of the company anyway. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.440 So we've definitely experienced that quite a few times. But 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:37.080 when it's come to actually like actually firing people, like 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:41.560 I want to say, three times over the seven years 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.560 I have along, we've been gone for now, like it's 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.600 really not many. But in saying that, like, what we 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:50.600 have dealt with more than firing people is just like 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:54.400 dealing with little like conflicts and you know, having to 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:58.800 issue warning letters or just having like you know, a 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.880 non disciplinary meeting like if something is popped up, and 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.920 like I want to say that, like that is harder 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.880 than actually having to terminate someone's position. Now, I'm not 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.080 the best person obviously to talk about firing people because 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.159 I really don't have that much experience compared to some 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.000 people who I don't know work for huge companies and 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.440 they fire people every left, right, and center, every second 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:23.880 day of the week. I don't know, So I feel 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.480 like I'm not the best person to give full advice 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.320 on it. But I can definitely talk to the point 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.760 of like having to have tough conversations and the times 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.560 that we have had to terminate people's positions. I feel 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.960 like the word fired is so harsh, Like it's so harsh, 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:42.360 I'd rather say, like, terminate your position with us. It's 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:47.080 definitely not it's not easy. It's not fun. Even just 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.800 on the topic of like having to have a non 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.599 disciplinary meeting with someone, like, it's never fun. Like everyone 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:57.080 can feel nervous. And most of the time people when 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.800 they're being offered one of those meetings, you know they 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:01.600 know so what you're going to be talking about, because 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.600 maybe something's happened in the workplace. You need to sit 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.640 down and say, look, like this has happened, and here's 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.080 how we're going to move forward. They're never easy, But 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.560 in my experience, I will say what I have been 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.480 surprised by is when you do have a hard conversation. 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.640 By the way, one of my favorite sayings of all 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:22.920 time is hard conversations, easy life. Easy conversations, hard life. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.920 Like that is my life fucking motto. You've just got 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.599 to have a hard conversation, even if it feels like 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.480 makes you feel sick and you can't sleep the night before. 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.760 As soon as you have that hard conversation, you'll have 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.880 an easy life. And if you just go through life 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.840 and through business, having easy conversations all the time, aka 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.280 avoiding all those things that you need to talk about, 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.760 you're going to have a hard time. And that's definitely 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.520 what I've learned. But in my experience with just like 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:53.719 having those awkward conversations, you know, in previous years, I'm 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:58.240 always like pleasantly surprised by people and how willing they 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:00.920 are to come to the table, even if you're like 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:02.919 I don't want to talk to this person because this 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.520 thing has happened, and you know, emotions are high. But 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.719 I think if you approach a meeting in the right way, 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.800 maybe you have to talk about something that's happened that 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.800 someone's upset about or whatever it may be, like nine 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.960 times out of ten, like everyone's really understanding, and especially 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:20.919 if you're approaching the team member from like a friendly angle, 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:24.200 Like anytime we've ever had to speak to someone, like 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:26.960 I'm not going in to yell at them and say this, 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.240 that and the other, you know, like I'm always just 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.200 super friendly and I just want to like talk about 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.599 everything that's happened and honestly like come up with the 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:38.880 solution so that we can all continue working together. And 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.040 you can usually work it out so that it doesn't 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:42.840 have to get to that point of ever needing to 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.479 terminate someone. And when it comes to terminating someone, like 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.039 if they're a full time worker or part time. Don't 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:50.760 quote me on that, but you've obviously got to do 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:54.279 everything correctly. You know, people have to be given multiple 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.520 warnings before you even get to the point of like 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:00.400 needing to think about terminating someone. So we've definitely done 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.560 a few of those over the years, like handing out 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.960 a warning letter, which is not fun. And like I've 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.599 said that in those instances, like, look, this isn't fun 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:09.039 for me, and I don't want to be doing this, 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.080 and I know it isn't fun for you. But again, 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:16.200 like I come to those experiences like wanting to turn 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.240 it around and wanting to move forward and work together, 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.600 you know. But again I have only dealt with this 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.320 like less than a handful of times, So I don't 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.840 think I'm the best best person to talk about it. 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.960 But maybe one day I could get a guest on 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.360 this pod who is like really experienced in like the 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:37.920 whole firing and tough conversation side. But yeah, it definitely 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.480 is a great character building experience to deal with hard 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.280 times with staff within your business, you learn a lot 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.400 about yourself, you learn a lot about your business, and 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:50.400 you learn about what you can improve on and fix 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.000 or tweak to ensure that those things never happen again. 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.640 So yeah, there's my answer to that question. That was 0:07:56.680 --> 0:08:02.840 a good one. The next question is just a change 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.200 of pace. It's a really fun little one. Would you 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:09.200 employ older women in your stores? Absolutely? I would love that. 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.480 We don't have an age range. I mean, I don't 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.080 think you can. I don't think you can specify an 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.560 age range when you're looking for a staff member. I'm 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.840 pretty sure that would be illegal or something. I don't know, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.800 but I would love to have people of all different 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.240 ages working at Fate and that's something that we are 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.320 definitely not opposed to. Do you want to apply, by 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.360 the way, we always advertise our positions on SEK, just 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:35.800 thought I would give a shout out there. I don't 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:37.640 think we have any openings at the moment, but we 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.320 have a Sikh profile and you can check out our 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.360 listings and openings on there anytime we post an ad. 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.959 The next question goes back to staffing. I feel like 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.640 this is a staffing themed Q and a so someone's 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.319 asked two questions, what are your top tips for small 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.440 businesses hiring staff for the first time, And do you 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.560 think it's best to hire someone with zero experience and 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:01.520 train them up or with experience. That's a good one 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:03.360 and a tough one. I'm pretty sure I've done a 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:07.720 bunch of episodes over the year where I've talked about hiring. 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:09.920 It's so hard when we do so many episodes, I 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.240 feel like I'm going to repeat myself every now and then. 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.000 My top tips for a small business hiring staff for 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.840 the first time. Jeez, if I could go back and 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:21.280 do my business all over again, I would do everything differently. 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.440 When I first started Fate, I was super young. I 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:26.839 was in my early to mid twenties. I mean, I'm 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:30.520 still young now, but I would honestly chuck up and 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.160 add online. Or I would put a little photo on 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.840 Instagram saying we're hiring. I would get people's resumes, I 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:41.560 would meet them once and say you're hired, and usually 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.080 I would base that off how well I got along 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:48.640 with them, which just isn't the right way to hire. Obviously, 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.360 you want to make sure that you're going to get 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.160 along with this person. If you're going to be working 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.880 with them. But I think I was seeing it more 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.840 personally than I should have been. I was like, yeah, 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:02.080 you're great, You're fine, we laughing, Jogan, You're hired. And 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.880 I think every business owner goes through that. You just 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.720 go for like the easy higher that seems fun, and 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.640 most of the time it doesn't work out. So my 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.560 top tips would be obviously put up an ad somewhere, 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:19.199 go through people's resumes, do a zoom call with them 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.840 first or Google meet whatever, and then do a second 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.320 interview in person. People can be completely different on a 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.880 call than they are in person, so it always advise 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.679 doing two interviews. And my final piece of advice is 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:36.880 if you have any inkling of doubt, even just one 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.840 little thing that you notice in the interview that makes 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.320 you like, question, oh, I don't know because they said 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.600 that one thing and it was weird, don't go ahead 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.040 with the higher like because most of the time, like 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:48.880 when you get a little feeling or your gut feeling, 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:53.560 it's always bloody right. Call reference checks if you have to. 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.400 I mean, I think that just depends on how big 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:58.400 of a role it is. And if they're just coming 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.920 in through you know, a casual employment, maybe you don't 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.280 need to call their references. But if it's kind of 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:05.920 more of an important role, or they're going to be 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.440 working five days a week and like running your business, 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.400 maybe you will want to call a reference check and 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.839 just ask great questions in the interview. I think it's 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.360 good to have a balance of personal questions so you 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.560 can get to know them a little bit better, and 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.560 also more like role and business focused questions, and always 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.800 end your interview asking if they have any questions for you. 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.920 I think it's always a really good indicator when you're 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.200 interviewing someone if they come prepared with a question for you, 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.840 I think that says a lot about someone. That's what 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.440 I think anyway. I love it when someone finishes an 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.760 interview and then they've got a couple of questions up 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.320 their sleeve for us as well. On to the second 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:43.839 part of the question, do you think it's best to 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.079 hire someone with no experience and train them or hire 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:51.560 someone with experience? Again, it's hard to say because it 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.400 depends on the type of business. I can see that 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.360 you're messaging me from a nail business, and maybe you're 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:02.200 a nail salon, So for that, I mean it depends 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.440 because I don't own your business. But for me, like 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.920 I would want someone definitely who has experienced, especially if 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.280 you're doing nails. But then again, I know, like when 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.040 it comes to the service industry, you can teach these 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.120 skills to people and then you can teach them exactly 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.480 how you want it to be done. But I think 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.600 if it's if it's like a casual position and you're 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.360 quite a small business, I think if you've got the 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.680 time to be able to train someone maybe they've only 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.520 got a tiny bit of experience, get them in and 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.080 teach them yourself. Because what can happen as well as 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:31.680 if you hire someone that is like overqualified for the role. 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.040 They can come in and kind of say, well, this 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:35.959 is how I do it, and this is the way 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.360 we did it at my last work or whatever, and 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.720 that may cause a little bit of a problem as well. 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.240 But as for me, with Fate and like our business 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.120 and the way that we are, we always are hiring 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:50.000 people with experience. In the first few years of Fate, 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.080 I hired people that had no experience at all, and 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.880 that worked for us at that time because we were smaller, 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.800 we were less busy, you know, I could apply myself 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.360 to training people a lot more, Whereas now, because we're 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.720 such an established company, we don't have time to be 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.319 training someone from the ground up. We want to get 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.640 someone who is going to come in and they've got experience, 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:13.640 let's say in retailer, whatever it is, and then we 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:15.920 train them the way that we do things. But we're 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.560 not training them from you know, the ground up. So 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.360 that just really depends on you and your business. But 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.320 I hope this helps. I'm gonna end this episode with 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.360 a fun question. Someone has asked, what is your office 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:32.000 pet peeve? Okay, I've got two straight away that I 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.000 think of. The first one, I mean, this isn't just 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:39.640 limited to an office, but when someone leaves the last 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:44.400 like one sheet of toilet paper, like just sitting on 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.480 top of the roll because they couldn't be bothered to 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:51.000 fricking change the role over, that does my head in. 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.319 I never say anything like I just change it over myself, 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:55.760 but it makes me want to go out into the 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.120 opics and be like, oh the fuck, what did the 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:00.719 toilet last? Why didn't you just change it? Oh? So 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.000 that's that's one of my pet pet peeves. But I 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.160 think it's funny and I'm always like, who did that, 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:11.480 lazy shits. And my other office pet peeve, I would say, 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.520 is like noises in general. This is probably just a 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.600 personal to me thing, but just like tapping of feet, 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:24.320 like tapping of pens, someone chewing chewy, like all different 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:28.560 noises really like bug me. And when I'm hearing noises, 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.840 I can't unhear them. It's like, you know, as soon 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.520 as you notice someone's tapping their foot or someone's chewing 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.360 chewy with their mouth open, that's all I can bloody hear. 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.080 And we work in an open office, like I just 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.680 sit with everyone, so there's always little noises happening. But 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.440 we do have music playing out loud in the office 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.920 every day, and I do have my headphones on my 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.200 desk as well, so if I'm ever feeling like overstimulated 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:55.200 by a little tapping noises, I'll just chuck my headphones 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:56.760 on and be like, if anyone needs me, just yell 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:58.520 out to me or throw something at me to get 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:03.240 my attention. But I would those are my office pet peeves. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.120 There's other ones too, like fucking you know, leave and 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.800 dishes in the sink and whatever, but like that's just life. 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.960 Isn't it. But anyway, thank you so much for your questions. 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.720 There is so many more, and thanks for listening to 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:19.120 another one of my bonus Chrissy period episodes.