Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Forgive
Speaker 1: me if you heard mobile phones ringing on the said
Speaker 1: while Denika was putting together the last part of a show.
Speaker 1: I apologize. I came through a different door in a
Speaker 1: panic everyone because I thought I wasn't here. But I'm here.
Speaker 1: We're ready to go, and I apologize for the interruption.
Speaker 1: We've got a lot to get to tonight. Right now,
Speaker 1: it is midday in the UK. Their election ten hours
Speaker 1: from now is set an Am Cidney, Melbourne, Bruceban Canberra.
Speaker 1: Is when the results will start to come in. We'll
Speaker 1: have a chat with Laura Jays in a moment from
Speaker 1: a beautiful old London. Of course, the UK, all of
Speaker 1: it will be voting expectation, Labour wins. What do we
Speaker 1: care about if Nigel Ferrag ends up getting not just
Speaker 1: a good size of the vote but a couple of
Speaker 1: seats as well. Now let's get straight to it. I
Speaker 1: hate the Midwinter Ball. I've always hated it. I've never
Speaker 1: been invited to it is that way. I hate it. No,
Speaker 1: the Midwinter Ball is put on by the Press Gallery
Speaker 1: and it's supposedly an opportunity to raise money for charity,
Speaker 1: But what it really ends up being is sort of
Speaker 1: a school formal, an annual school former for the people
Speaker 1: who are in our political system. What frustrates me about
Speaker 1: this event is that we're supposed to believe that politics
Speaker 1: is adversarial, that the battle of ideas, and we all
Speaker 1: know that all of these people get us to believe
Speaker 1: that there's great fights between red and blue and green
Speaker 1: and yellow and orange and all the rest of it.
Speaker 1: But the reality of this night is that it's kind
Speaker 1: of all of the people who consider themselves the cool
Speaker 1: kids who aren't really just hanging out in one giant
Speaker 1: mix with the media. And again I find it all
Speaker 1: kind of uncomfortable. I think the idea that if I
Speaker 1: was a politician and I'd want to support the charity,
Speaker 1: I'd wear what I wore during the day. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: glam up, and I wouldn't pretend that I was going
Speaker 1: off to an award show. And I know I cop
Speaker 1: it for this, but I don't care. They're supposed to
Speaker 1: be a relationship that is again adversarial at times, between
Speaker 1: the people in power and the people who ask questions
Speaker 1: on our behalf of the people in power, the people
Speaker 1: who are supposed to keep them in check, but they
Speaker 1: all intermingle, they all carry on, they all whisper in
Speaker 1: each other's ears, and they all go home way too late.
Speaker 1: And I find that just uncomfortable. If they want to
Speaker 1: raise money, great, do it in the middle of the day.
Speaker 1: Everyone wears their work clothes. But because this is their moment,
Speaker 1: including the media, for their look at me moment, we
Speaker 1: all have to play along, will have to watch. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I find it kind of ugly that these people who
Speaker 1: live inside the bubble, including the media, people inside the bubble,
Speaker 1: including all the people who want to suck up to
Speaker 1: the people in the bubble and the bubble inside the bubble,
Speaker 1: they all kind of look the other way while they
Speaker 1: reapply the lippy and put on the new shirt. Australia
Speaker 1: is living in a cost of life living crisis, but
Speaker 1: I just think it's a particularly kind of gross thing
Speaker 1: to rub everyone's nose in it and show no those
Speaker 1: signs of trying to pair back the glam. Now, if
Speaker 1: there was a political event, there have a been, of
Speaker 1: course criticisms in the past about politicians or politicians wives
Speaker 1: and what they wear on things like budget night. Now,
Speaker 1: I've never got into that. In fact, as you remember,
Speaker 1: I had strongly pushed back against it. But if the
Speaker 1: theory is that, oh, that's because those people are out
Speaker 1: of touch, well then what was the whole room last night?
Speaker 1: Now again people will say he's just pissed off because
Speaker 1: he's not part of the party. No, I'm annoyed because
Speaker 1: these are the stories that are in the paper every
Speaker 1: day today, Corey. Male people don't have breakfast on weekdays.
Speaker 1: Why because they're trying to save money overall cost of
Speaker 1: living again and again and again number one issue. We
Speaker 1: talk about it so many times. All the politics that
Speaker 1: they all sort of pat each other on the bat
Speaker 1: or they back or they all pretend to fight about,
Speaker 1: has real consequences for normal people. And I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: just a bit old school. I think there should be
Speaker 1: a bit of a mote between the politicians and the media. Now,
Speaker 1: there have been times in my career, as I've talked about,
Speaker 1: where sometimes you just get too familiar, too close to people,
Speaker 1: and it means you lose a bit of perspective. I've
Speaker 1: earned that a couple of times. But the reality of
Speaker 1: just how close this all is, plus the touch football,
Speaker 1: and it's just a giant game as Barnaby Joyce often
Speaker 1: talks about that it's a giant boarding school and you've
Speaker 1: got the cool kids and they're not cool kids, and
Speaker 1: the nerdy kids and the conservative kids. So next time
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister says this, we have been focused on
Speaker 1: making a difference and that has been our focus, lifting
Speaker 1: up living standard. Think about this because it was a
Speaker 1: celebration of people in terms of the politicians who have
Speaker 1: all and I mean all, got not one, not two,
Speaker 1: but three pay rises since the last election. Will you
Speaker 1: haven't now? I'm done with the protesting. I have been
Speaker 1: for a long time and I don't think that it
Speaker 1: changes anyone's opinion. I think that all the people who
Speaker 1: support the cause are yeah, good on your man, and
Speaker 1: then everyone else goes. Please perfect example that idiot last night.
Speaker 2: Hi there, everybody, my name is Sky. I'm twenty two.
Speaker 2: Are you shar they pronounce? And I am currently.
Speaker 1: On a tree set.
Speaker 2: I'm here on one of real country. I am here
Speaker 2: for climate justice. So sow it sucks. I mean the
Speaker 2: continent itself, whatever you want to call that continent, is
Speaker 2: a very beautiful place, but it's built on extraction, It's
Speaker 2: built on stolen land. The nation state is built on
Speaker 2: stolen land. We export nothing but coal, weapons and misery.
Speaker 1: Then, of course, each and every year we have the
Speaker 1: discussion about what the day of January the twenty sixth means.
Speaker 1: And because our country isn't old enough, like say the
Speaker 1: United States, the UK or every other place that has
Speaker 1: some sort of national day, we have to go through
Speaker 1: the same garbage. Now, this of course is not insensitive
Speaker 1: to the idea of what was here prior and what
Speaker 1: happened then and all the rest of it. But please,
Speaker 1: and then take your pick. How many times is there
Speaker 1: some giant march that will take place up and down
Speaker 1: the streets, union people, all the rest of it, And
Speaker 1: it doesn't really do anything, It doesn't move anything. It's
Speaker 1: often about trying to get media attention and then in
Speaker 1: the hope that media attention equals getting a result that
Speaker 1: they want. But so often it doesn't remember this stuff
Speaker 1: during COVID. Don't remember Daniel Andrews opening up the streets
Speaker 1: to everyone. Oh, that's right, apart from the union workers
Speaker 1: who already were allowed to leave the house because they
Speaker 1: work for unions during COVID lockdowns. So you know where
Speaker 1: I'm going with this. You saw the crap at Parliament
Speaker 1: House today and regardless of whether you agree or you disagree,
Speaker 1: most people watching, of course he will disagree. People hate
Speaker 1: this stuff, They truly hate this stuff. And too frequently
Speaker 1: the building that is supposedly one of the most special
Speaker 1: and sacred in the country has been abused by people
Speaker 1: trying to make points like this, like remember the idiots
Speaker 1: who were all about the climate. Those were the people
Speaker 1: who were setting prams on fire and graffiti all over
Speaker 1: the place. Or idiots who decide to glue themselves to things,
Speaker 1: and oh it's also serious. Oh goodness, imagine living in
Speaker 1: Imagine what are these people do for fun? Like do
Speaker 1: they ever watch movies that they listen to? Me? What
Speaker 1: do they do for fun? Imagine being that's sanctumonious about something. Well,
Speaker 1: the problem with the Parliament House protests is that they
Speaker 1: expose the lack of security around the building. Now I
Speaker 1: know that it would not at all be fun to
Speaker 1: be the security guard or the member of the Protective
Speaker 1: Services the Australian Federal Police who has to stand outside
Speaker 1: of Parliament House for twenty four hours a day, seven
Speaker 1: days a week, hot in summer, cold in winter. But
Speaker 1: the reality is we don't guard that building properly. We
Speaker 1: really don't. Evidence is that people were able to climb
Speaker 1: up onto the structure and to be able to stay
Speaker 1: there now amazingly. Of course, the media turns around and
Speaker 1: they show you live pictures, which means these people get
Speaker 1: exactly what they want as opposed to somebody getting a
Speaker 1: ladder and cutting down the signs. Where was any of
Speaker 1: that today? There's no cherry pickers underneath Parliament House. Please Now,
Speaker 1: I don't want anything terrible to ever happen in one
Speaker 1: of our public institutions. But the reality is is that Okay,
Speaker 1: it's paint one day, it signs another, God forbid if
Speaker 1: it's something else at some other time, And again we
Speaker 1: could end up spending an awful lot of money saying, well,
Speaker 1: why do we spend so much money on security for
Speaker 1: the building when nothing happens. Well, of course, the security
Speaker 1: in and of itself becomes the deterrent. I don't want
Speaker 1: to see Australia end up in a position where a
Speaker 1: fence is put up around its national buildings, like say
Speaker 1: the United States is with the White House, or of
Speaker 1: course around the Capitol Building or the Supreme Court. When
Speaker 1: the protests get too big. But in the meantime, we
Speaker 1: have all the technology, all the manpower, and all the
Speaker 1: money in the world to guarantee that anyone who wants
Speaker 1: to do anything even kinder like this stuff gets arrested
Speaker 1: quickly and live on television. While their banners are unfurling,
Speaker 1: somebody is tearing them down. Believe what you want. I
Speaker 1: think we should have in every major city a place
Speaker 1: for protest and a place where even the local government
Speaker 1: pays for the microphone. I'm fine for that, that's free speech.
Speaker 1: But the idea of exposing the security flaws of a
Speaker 1: building that means an awful lot to us, well, for
Speaker 1: obvious reasons, that's not cool. And by the way, the
Speaker 1: Australian public doesn't like her. We know because of this polling.
Speaker 1: Remember the polling that came out not that long ago
Speaker 1: in the Resolve Policity Morning Herald Age Brisbane Times. Only
Speaker 1: fifty three percent of people say that it's a legitimate
Speaker 1: protest if you're having it in a park, forty one
Speaker 1: percent if you're marching in the street, fourteen percent if
Speaker 1: you're camping out or occupying a university, ten percent if
Speaker 1: you're blocking an MP's elect office nine percent, if you're
Speaker 1: protesting at the home or business of a business or
Speaker 1: political figure. Seven percent, if you're the hay there on
Speaker 1: top of the trains with the coal in it, four percent,
Speaker 1: if you're damaging property. People don't like this stuff. They
Speaker 1: don't like it because it doesn't change anyone's mind. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to spend too much time at the
Speaker 1: start of the show. Inevitably will get anything in the
Speaker 1: conversation about the former Labor senator from Western Australia who
Speaker 1: is pretending that the single issue of what is happening
Speaker 1: in Palestine is the reason for her to leave the
Speaker 1: Labor Party. Now, I had said last night that her
Speaker 1: movement was going to not mean too much when it
Speaker 1: comes to the numbers. Now that is true in terms
Speaker 1: of the government, because let me go back yet again
Speaker 1: and say thirty nine votes are needed in the Senate
Speaker 1: for anything to happen. Labour has twenty five, the Greens
Speaker 1: have eleven. That gets them, of course, to thirty six.
Speaker 1: The Liberal and National Parties have thirty one. The cross
Speaker 1: Bench has eight people on it. Now I mentioned Nation
Speaker 1: has two. I forgot to mention United Australia Party. Sorry, Ralph.
Speaker 1: The Lamby network has one Pocock, Thorpe, Tyrrell formerly of
Speaker 1: the Lamby Network, and now Payment are the rest of
Speaker 1: that cross bench. So here's how the numbers work. Labor
Speaker 1: Party twenty five plus eleven needs just three cross benches.
Speaker 1: Three of those cross benches, they will easily get Pocock
Speaker 1: because he always votes for them, Thought because she always
Speaker 1: votes for them, Tyrrell or Lamby because they always vote
Speaker 1: for them, and Payment while she used to be of them,
Speaker 1: and you can't imagine her voting with one Nation or
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party. So nothing's happening yet. How much coverage
Speaker 1: and how much conversation and oh what about this? And
Speaker 1: what about that? And the Muslim vote and all the
Speaker 1: rest of it. Don't you love that when somebody left
Speaker 1: the Lamby network and broke out as her own independent
Speaker 1: and they are readily could end up voting against the government.
Speaker 1: There was virtually no coverage, no press conferences. I think
Speaker 1: she banged out a YouTube video and there were no
Speaker 1: more questions. And the crazy cat lady in Jackie Lamby
Speaker 1: is on Tell Division every week and never gets asked
Speaker 1: about it. Nothing's changing in the Senate. And I explained
Speaker 1: in great detail last night. Why the myth of the
Speaker 1: Labor Party losing all of its seats because of a
Speaker 1: particular vote that's going to change. Remember, the reason the
Speaker 1: Teals are able to pull off what the Teals do
Speaker 1: is because it's the Liberal Party versus everyone else on
Speaker 1: the ballot, and all of them preference each other. The
Speaker 1: major Party of Labor runs dead, so that the Teals
Speaker 1: end up finishing second. The preferences get them over the
Speaker 1: line they become MP's in the Western Sydney seats. The
Speaker 1: Liberal Party will not play dead. The Liberal Party will
Speaker 1: not preference them, which means Labor will probably hold onto
Speaker 1: the seats. If you're a fair, legitimate, community based focused
Speaker 1: person like a Dye Leee, well then you're a chance
Speaker 1: of getting into the Parliament. But if this is the
Speaker 1: reason why things are being set up, please this just
Speaker 1: seems to be yet another trojan horse excuse from the
Speaker 1: far left to talk about the subjects they want to
Speaker 1: talk about as opposed to the ones Australia is absolutely
Speaker 1: obsessed with. And that of course is cost of living.
Speaker 1: Oh but then again we'd have to call it how
Speaker 1: bad the government is right now, Our old mate Joe
Speaker 1: Biden it's happened in the past twenty four hours where
Speaker 1: put simply, he's digging in. Now, this is great. If
Speaker 1: you're a Trump fan, please more of it. Let's hope
Speaker 1: it is Biden all the way to November, because at
Speaker 1: this stage, no chance that Biden's going to win, no
Speaker 1: indication I should say that Biden is going to win
Speaker 1: now after that debate performance, which of course was about
Speaker 1: a week ago, and they say a week's a long
Speaker 1: time in politics, We'll imagine going from the president they
Speaker 1: were all behind to now a week later, the calls
Speaker 1: and a lot of effort to push him out of
Speaker 1: the race. But Biden, who controls the entire process of
Speaker 1: whether he remains the nominee or not. Remember, he will
Speaker 1: decide when the zoom call takes happen. He's got the
Speaker 1: delegates and he can lock himself into the job. Which
Speaker 1: is now why you're getting this rubbish from the White
Speaker 1: House spokesperson fighting considering stepping down at absolutely not. But
Speaker 1: then straight after these things happen, the people who are
Speaker 1: the ones that have told us Joe Biden's completely okay.
Speaker 1: In the basement, Joe Biden's completely okay when he's staring
Speaker 1: off into the distance. Joe Biden's an amazing success, until,
Speaker 1: of course, their lie was exposed by his performance in
Speaker 1: the debate, where he was so feeble he can't even
Speaker 1: continue as president lit alone candidate, let alone plus four years.
Speaker 3: Well, they're saying this, Look, I'm just going to be honest.
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody comes on the air and says all
Speaker 3: this great stuff, but behind the scenes, it's a full
Speaker 3: scale panic. People are passing around legal memos pds or
Speaker 3: flying back and forth on WhatsApp trying to figure out
Speaker 3: what are the options. How can you replace Biden? How
Speaker 3: do you get him to do it in a way
Speaker 3: where he feels respected as he should be respected. Who
Speaker 3: should Kamala Harris's vice president be? The conversation on air
Speaker 3: and the conversation off air are completely different.
Speaker 1: Now, remember this is not because they don't think he
Speaker 1: can do the job. It's because they don't think he
Speaker 1: can win an election. What does that tell you about
Speaker 1: their love of democracy and all the rest of it?
Speaker 1: Democracy is that you and I get to decide if
Speaker 1: this person gets another in this case four years in
Speaker 1: the United States. I don't know quick switch him out
Speaker 1: because it's all been exposed the guy we kept in
Speaker 1: the basement, the guy who's done no press conferences, the
Speaker 1: guy who doesn't turn around and do interviews. Oh, he's
Speaker 1: all completely fine. He's as sharp as attack. They were
Speaker 1: literally saying that today, that he's as smart as he's
Speaker 1: ever been. This, of course, was the same person who
Speaker 1: was telling you that when you see videos of this
Speaker 1: bloke staring off into space, that somehow he was this
Speaker 1: was all a fake, all a deep fake. Remember, well,
Speaker 1: all of those people are now trying to pretend to
Speaker 1: say you didn't see what you saw last week and
Speaker 1: everything this week where people have been noticing the problems
Speaker 1: that you saw last week, all of it doesn't exist again,
Speaker 1: fine by me. I don't want them to win that
Speaker 1: Joe Biden's administration has been a failure. I think that
Speaker 1: his attitudes on everything from Title nine through to letting
Speaker 1: millions of people across the border is the wrong way
Speaker 1: to go. So I'm fine with them living in the
Speaker 1: fantasy land and him bricking himself inside. But the idea
Speaker 1: that he's able to break himself inside because he's the
Speaker 1: best one for the gig complete rubbish, complete rubbish. So
Speaker 1: the opinion polls come out today that confirm what we've
Speaker 1: always known. The debate was terrible, and his numbers are tanking,
Speaker 1: which is why at least Van Jones, that was the
Speaker 1: guy you saw before on CNN, and he's saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: stop saying all this polite stuff on Telly, we're saying
Speaker 1: really nasty stuff behind the scenes. How a look at
Speaker 1: that forty nine to forty three among likely voters, That,
Speaker 1: of course is an absolute thumper. There'd be an election
Speaker 1: result called on the night. There'd be no red mist
Speaker 1: all the rest of it. Oh yeah, and by the way,
Speaker 1: that's just the fight between Trump and Biden. Once you're
Speaker 1: throwing Kennedy. It's Trump forty two, Biden twenty seven, thirty seven,
Speaker 1: and Kennedy at eight. That's why James Carvill, a man
Speaker 1: who's famous in political circles, the man who literally was
Speaker 1: the guy who perfected the it's the economy stupid works
Speaker 1: for Bill Clinton, been around it for a long period
Speaker 1: of time. He's out and about saying they've got a
Speaker 1: blast Biden out. It'll be amazing once eventually, if Biden's
Speaker 1: able to brick himself in confirm his own nomination, will
Speaker 1: he still be saying, well, buggarat we've still got to
Speaker 1: get behind him anyway, he says, cut off the money.
Speaker 1: Carvill advisors donors who want Biden out of the race,
Speaker 1: to cut off money to politicians who won't take their side.
Speaker 1: So put simply anyone unless they come out and say
Speaker 1: get rid of Biden. What I would say is this,
Speaker 1: If we don't do something about this, I'm going to
Speaker 1: put it to you. Call block on my cell phone.
Speaker 1: So that's the message, move them with the money. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: And apparently there was a controversy with Trump today. The
Speaker 1: Daily Beasts decided to show a leaked video when a
Speaker 1: bunch of people clearly saw Donald Trump with his son
Speaker 1: Baron on the golf course I believe today. So they
Speaker 1: decided to ask him a couple of questions and chicily
Speaker 1: film it. And apparently this is the new version of
Speaker 1: the excess Hollywood type. Could anyone tell me what's wrong
Speaker 1: with what he says?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 1: Roll the type? How did I do with the dived
Speaker 1: the other night? All broken down? Pilot crabs? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a bad guy. He just quit, you know, he's quitting.
Speaker 1: The rest is that right? Yep? I got him out
Speaker 1: of it, and that means we have Kamala. I think
Speaker 1: she's going to be better. She's so bad, she's so pathetic,
Speaker 1: it's amazing, it's I just can't imagine. But can you
Speaker 1: imagine that? Go with dealing with Putin and the president
Speaker 1: of China, who's a fierce person.
Speaker 2: He's a fierce man, a very tough guy.
Speaker 1: And they see him. They probably he can't but they
Speaker 1: just announced he's he's probably quitting. Just keep knocking. What
Speaker 1: a scandal he tipped somebody. And then he said what
Speaker 1: we all know to be true, which increasingly in terms
Speaker 1: of the White House of the pro Biden people, is
Speaker 1: not allowed at all speaking a bad language on the
Speaker 1: Internet or anywhere else. Remember when this was the reason
Speaker 1: that Lefty said that the voice referenda went from sixty
Speaker 1: forty yes to sixty forty no misinformation misinformation.
Speaker 4: The misinformation map outrays trying to start a culture war.
Speaker 1: It is important Trump style politics misinformation misinformation. Well, of course,
Speaker 1: the E Safety Commissioner otherwise known as the E Karen
Speaker 1: or the E Safety Karen or the Internet Karen at
Speaker 1: the time was ad and about saying there has been
Speaker 1: a major increase in the amount of not just misinformation
Speaker 1: but potentially violent threats that were being complained about by
Speaker 1: Indigenous people at the height of the debate around the Voice.
Speaker 1: Why am I mentioning this tonight because thank goodness for
Speaker 1: the Institute of Public Affairs the IPA, because they were
Speaker 1: able to prove that was garbage. The woman in charge
Speaker 1: of policing misinformation on Australia's social media platforms has been
Speaker 1: accused of pushing misleading narrative about online abuse linked to
Speaker 1: the Voice referendum. Why because she said this.
Speaker 5: It's pretty shocking that.
Speaker 6: Indigenous youth experienced online heat and online racism at a
Speaker 6: rape three times greater than other youth.
Speaker 1: How many complaints do you think that there were from
Speaker 1: Indigenous Australians about cyber abuse relating to the referendum. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you two, like literally two complaints. Yet the lady
Speaker 1: who would like to have the power of greater power
Speaker 1: to sensor the internet to tell you what you can
Speaker 1: and can't see, she's out there selling a narrative at
Speaker 1: It's only not because this was publicly released by the government.
Speaker 1: This is information that, by the way, was served up
Speaker 1: by the Institute of Public Affairs because they were able
Speaker 1: to peek behind the curtain and guess what it showed.
Speaker 1: The Safety Commissioner E Karen wasn't telling the truth. She
Speaker 1: works for a government and this part of a system
Speaker 1: that would like to further sense of the Internet, so
Speaker 1: much so that if it's declared misinformation by the Australian
Speaker 1: Communications and Broadcasting Authority, you know, a bunch of radio
Speaker 1: National listeners who would hate everything that we do and
Speaker 1: certainly anything that the great Kyle Sandelins would do, then
Speaker 1: it must be removed from social media platforms. If the
Speaker 1: social media platforms don't remove it, then hundreds of thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars worth of fines and then eventually the social
Speaker 1: media platforms turn around and say, oh, look, let's just
Speaker 1: not post the links from the thing that everyone complains about. Now.
Speaker 1: The government, of course would love to shut down people
Speaker 1: like myself, channels like this, Times of Broadcast like ours,
Speaker 1: but of course they couldn't possibly do it, so just
Speaker 1: like their third pay rise in a row since the election. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's a completely independent process in part administered by people
Speaker 1: who tell well falsehoods like that or is that misinformation too, Karen?
Speaker 1: Now a couple of other bits of information before we
Speaker 1: get to the wonderful Laura Jays standing by looking splendid.
Speaker 1: The reason we're in HD. We'll get to here in
Speaker 1: a moment or two's time. Looking great in London, with
Speaker 1: plenty to say about the election, But the nds we
Speaker 1: know are the explosion of it and its costs. Well,
Speaker 1: we know there's a lot of people that are routing,
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are taking the proverbial. But
Speaker 1: also let's be serious about how many people in this
Speaker 1: country have a disability. According to the Bureau Statistics, twenty
Speaker 1: seven million people in the country. Five point five million
Speaker 1: of them have a disability. More disability the older that
Speaker 1: you get, but that is an incredible number. Meantime, can
Speaker 1: we ignore the nonsense about increasing taxes on soft drinks? Yes,
Speaker 1: this is a self interested rant, but there's only so
Speaker 1: much tax one can pay on tobacco, or gambling or
Speaker 1: petrol cars. It almost feels slightly if you are a
Speaker 1: pa perote person, you feel personally attacked by those policies.
Speaker 1: But the idea is that to pay for, among other things,
Speaker 1: the rising costs to our health system because of fatties
Speaker 1: like myself, well, we have to introduce attax on the
Speaker 1: things that helps make US fatties for their point, this
Speaker 1: is the reason why apparently the tax should be in place.
Speaker 4: So we've had heaps of evidence that's been put into
Speaker 4: this over the years. So we've got the National Obesity
Speaker 4: Strategy that we follow, and certainly it indicates that we're
Speaker 4: needing to have a sugar tax. If we can encourage
Speaker 4: people to spend their dollars more on healthy food rather
Speaker 4: than junk food or Sweden beverages, then we can actually
Speaker 4: tip the scales back in the right direction. We also
Speaker 4: need to have restrictions on advertising, particularly to young children,
Speaker 4: because we're setting them up for failure at the moment,
Speaker 4: and at the moment the biggest failure is happening by
Speaker 4: our politicians.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the reason people like sugar because of the ads. Okay, pow,
Speaker 1: let's go the UK right now. My wonderful friend, my
Speaker 1: work wife, my buddy. I don't think you're allowed to
Speaker 1: say workwife anymore anyway else you're on HR are in
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks time. Laura Jays love you to
Speaker 1: see you. She's in London right now because the election
Speaker 1: is on. It is what about midday your time? Poles
Speaker 1: close at ten o'clock exit polls come out thirty seconds
Speaker 1: later and Labor wins.
Speaker 7: Right, yep, absolutely, and you're allowed to say whatever you want, Paul.
Speaker 5: This is election day. We're about halfway through. The sun
Speaker 5: has finally come out.
Speaker 7: Everyone's been a little bit cranky over the last couple
Speaker 7: of weeks, not only because they were in the middle
Speaker 7: of an election campaign bombarded by all these messaging, but
Speaker 7: the weather has been quite rubbish, even by London standards.
Speaker 7: But what I think we're about to see today, Paul,
Speaker 7: is the obliteration of the Conservative government.
Speaker 5: When you look at the numbers, and I know you
Speaker 5: love numbers.
Speaker 7: We had a ugup poll out yesterday about forty thousand
Speaker 7: in terms of the sample size, so pretty decent. They're
Speaker 7: talking about the biggest loss for any party since well
Speaker 7: the thirty two, so you have to go back almost
Speaker 7: two centuries to see this kind of majority for Labor.
Speaker 5: So it is absolutely yeah. It said it's going to
Speaker 5: be one for the history books.
Speaker 7: And when you look at just what has changed in
Speaker 7: the last five years, and he's just stunning. Remember twenty nineteen,
Speaker 7: you and I were talking about the Red Wall being
Speaker 7: torn down by Boris Johnson everyone then we're was talking
Speaker 7: about him being in power for another decade, and here
Speaker 7: we are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm just thinking about that, right, three
Speaker 1: prime ministers in one term, Right, three prime ministers in
Speaker 1: one term that there's no way any any country is
Speaker 1: going to cop that we didn't do it when it
Speaker 1: was two in one term. We would end up having
Speaker 1: our issues with it in between. Look again, Liz Trusts,
Speaker 1: who I know reinvents herself as sort of the ultimate
Speaker 1: truth teller and destroyed by the state. But she was
Speaker 1: there for two months, all right. You know, Rishi was
Speaker 1: never wanted by the members. And the nature of politics
Speaker 1: this deep into a government, there's always people that will
Speaker 1: be willing to complain. And then of course there's a
Speaker 1: Boris Johnson of it all. As you say, five years ago,
Speaker 1: the bloke knocked the Labor Party so far on its
Speaker 1: backside that it was Is there a future for the
Speaker 1: Labor Party five years later? Of course there will be
Speaker 1: a future for the Tories. It'll have Niger farage and
Speaker 1: reform in and around it. But is it true what
Speaker 1: you're seeing here is the rejection of a government, not
Speaker 1: the not the adoption of an opposition.
Speaker 5: One hundred.
Speaker 7: I mean you have to look at where the Tories
Speaker 7: are at. Rishie Sunak really didn't have much of a chance.
Speaker 7: And when you look at the numbers, they have not
Speaker 7: moved for eighteen months. So this campaign has absolutely not
Speaker 7: moved the dial. There is apathy, voter apathy, and they're
Speaker 7: not even they've gone kind of beyond angry. They'ren't have baseball,
Speaker 7: but so they just like, oh, yeah, these guys are done.
Speaker 7: We need to give someone else a turn here. But
Speaker 7: again back to the numbers. So on thisatest poll, Labor
Speaker 7: would win forty two percent of the popular vote. That
Speaker 7: is the same percentage that Jeremy Corbyn got at the
Speaker 7: last election, but that was an historic defeat.
Speaker 5: So that's how much the electoral.
Speaker 7: System has changed in terms of Reform, the Liberal Democrats
Speaker 7: and just the whole makeup.
Speaker 5: So you're looking at Labor winning forty two percent.
Speaker 7: Of the popular vote and seventy percent of the seats,
Speaker 7: and you're looking at the Tories winning about twenty percent
Speaker 7: of the popular vote and thirteen percent of the seats,
Speaker 7: and Nigel Farage Reform UK.
Speaker 5: He could win fifteen percent.
Speaker 7: One in six people could vote Reform UK and they
Speaker 7: could pick up zero seats although the current prediction is
Speaker 7: around three seats, so it's just a utter rejection of
Speaker 7: the major parties.
Speaker 5: I think Labor really needs to.
Speaker 7: Be careful here, and they've run such a small target campaign.
Speaker 7: Kirs Darma didn't have to do anything. He was utterly
Speaker 7: boring and that's kind of what people want. It's the fear,
Speaker 7: it's what he does on day one, it's what he
Speaker 7: does on Monday of next week. Because a lot of
Speaker 7: people in the UK will remember previous Labor gouverments. I
Speaker 7: think it was nineteen ninety eight where there's no talk
Speaker 7: about the independence of the Bank of England.
Speaker 5: They've thought a Brown did it literally the day after.
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, Look, the reason the choppers are around is
Speaker 1: because they want to get a nice pat photo of
Speaker 1: you wearing the teal. Now the teal, of course is
Speaker 1: a message in Australia, but teal over there is reform UK.
Speaker 1: So you're coming out for Nigel today.
Speaker 5: Well, I thought you'd like this. It's a little bit
Speaker 5: of velvest.
Speaker 7: You know, Nigel is quite dapper, he's sartorially splendid always,
Speaker 7: So yeah, sure, Paul, I'll go with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, that's the special meeting at least it wasn't
Speaker 1: Suffragette white, which obviously they were wearing even on the
Speaker 1: c and end debate. Look, so let's explain our coverage
Speaker 1: tomorrow seven am matches up to ten pm UK time.
Speaker 1: You're obviously there. Give us an idea about timing result,
Speaker 1: what people need to see when they set their alarm
Speaker 1: and when they turn their telly on tomorrow morning.
Speaker 5: Well, it'll be a work bender for me. So it's
Speaker 5: midday today.
Speaker 7: Nine pm tonight will be on air here in London,
Speaker 7: that is six am your time there.
Speaker 5: The polls close at ten pm.
Speaker 7: Then we have an exit pole, and the exit pole
Speaker 7: it doesn't always get it right, but it's.
Speaker 5: Increasingly more accurate.
Speaker 7: I think there's two elections that they were way off,
Speaker 7: but last election, when I was here in the depth
Speaker 7: of winter, it was pretty much a bang on when
Speaker 7: Boris Johnson got that landslide victory. So ten pm we'll
Speaker 7: get that exit pole. We'll talk about that probably for
Speaker 7: a couple of hours to be honest, and then we'll
Speaker 7: get the first seat, a couple of seats in about
Speaker 7: an hour.
Speaker 5: Now. These will be.
Speaker 7: The first actual indication of where it's happened, where it's
Speaker 7: all happening and where the numbers will go. And usually
Speaker 7: if it was a close election, you wouldn't really take
Speaker 7: notice of these early seats. But because a landslide victory
Speaker 7: is predicted, we'll probably be able to reduce a fair
Speaker 7: bit from those first couple of seats, and then they
Speaker 7: don't trickle in like an Australian election, they just get
Speaker 7: kind of.
Speaker 5: Dumped in blocks.
Speaker 7: So we'll have a pretty good idea by about three
Speaker 7: in the morning, five in the morning afternoon your time, Paulding.
Speaker 1: So it's mega, which is why it's even better that
Speaker 1: you're getting up that little bit earlier Australian time. You're
Speaker 1: hanging out with us. Now, enjoy some apparole spirits between
Speaker 1: now and then, mate, and we look forward to seeing
Speaker 1: you tomorrow morning.
Speaker 5: That would be dangerous, but perhaps I'll think about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think you just might. All right, there's enough
Speaker 1: time to recover, you know, one or two now seven
Speaker 1: hours later to see what opened to see it on
Speaker 1: Laurie Jay's there of course in London. Full coverage tomorrow
Speaker 1: morning from when you wake up all the way through
Speaker 1: the best coverage here on Sky News. Make sure you
Speaker 1: keep an eye on it quick breakback with more loss
Speaker 1: to talk about Meghan Kelly speaking of stunners. She joins
Speaker 1: us from the United States in moments from now to
Speaker 1: talk about Biden bricking himself into the White House. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much for watching joining us right now, lady.
Speaker 1: I had the chance to be able to hang out
Speaker 1: with in Brisbane for our Town show on Sunday. They wonderful.
Speaker 1: Lisa got it from a dony media. Lovely to see
Speaker 1: you and I haven't seen him face to face for
Speaker 1: a while, but I'm glad to see him on the
Speaker 1: Telly the man who just wants to basically talk Biden
Speaker 1: for the next two hours, but I'm going to get
Speaker 1: him to talk about other stuff. Michael Krager, how are you,
Speaker 1: my dear friend.
Speaker 8: Paul, I couldn't be better.
Speaker 9: How are you, mate?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Very good. And if he wants to barricade himself
Speaker 1: in the White House then fine by me. All right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk here about the protest right. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to get lost in all the Muslim vote stuff and
Speaker 1: all the rest of it. Why Because, as I explained earlier,
Speaker 1: preferences work in certain ways. If major parties they basically
Speaker 1: have to run dead for those candidates to end up
Speaker 1: getting up and over. The margins are quite significant, so
Speaker 1: let's not waste time on that. Fatima in and of herself,
Speaker 1: she's either you know, of immense courage or there's a
Speaker 1: whole lot of people that have pushed her in the direction.
Speaker 1: Pay attention to the staff that she hires. Okay, pay attention.
Speaker 1: There'll be some people who you will have never heard of.
Speaker 1: But if there's somebody you may have heard of them,
Speaker 1: maybe that was the plan all the way along. Let's
Speaker 1: all find out together anyway. But protest in general, Lisa,
Speaker 1: I don't think they change people's minds, all right. I
Speaker 1: don't think people change their minds when they see kids
Speaker 1: holding placards. I don't think they see when people glue
Speaker 1: themselves to things. The media loves it because it's something
Speaker 1: other than you know, the order to general reading from
Speaker 1: a report. But no one changes their mind after this stuff,
Speaker 1: no one, no.
Speaker 6: And I think all it has done today is raise
Speaker 6: questions about safety and security at Parliament House. It was
Speaker 6: nothing more than an invasion and so there are serious
Speaker 6: questions now being asked about what is being done and
Speaker 6: actually how safe, and not just the politicians and the
Speaker 6: staff in Parliament House, but all of the members of
Speaker 6: the public and the school kids who go there because
Speaker 6: they're able to get up there ninety minutes with those
Speaker 6: messages hanging off the front of what is, you know,
Speaker 6: the People's House. It's just absolutely wrong. And my question
Speaker 6: about this is the absolute timing of it. Is it
Speaker 6: completely coincidental that it happened on the very same day
Speaker 6: that you know, the press conference has held that you know,
Speaker 6: I'm I'm leaving the Labor Party and she was so
Speaker 6: disciplined on her message. I know you don't want to
Speaker 6: get into it, but the one thing that stuck with
Speaker 6: me was when she was asked about whether she would
Speaker 6: go and be part of or set up another party
Speaker 6: of Muslim party, and she ended it with stay tuned.
Speaker 6: So from a pr media messaging perspective, she completely let
Speaker 6: herself down on being so disciplined across everything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, and look, the reason I'm just pumping the
Speaker 1: brakes is just only We've all heard a lot about
Speaker 1: it in the past few days. All right, and again
Speaker 1: Michael wants to spend two hours on Biden still. But Michael,
Speaker 1: there is one thing that I wanted to on all
Speaker 1: of this, right, and again it's the role of the
Speaker 1: media right now when if somebody wants to leave the
Speaker 1: Lamby Party or One Nation or United Australia Party. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about previous times this has all happened. They don't
Speaker 1: get the pre booked Sunday morning interview treatment followed up
Speaker 1: by the press conferences and the six pm news all right,
Speaker 1: they just don't get it, even though it doesn't change
Speaker 1: the actual numbers. She was absolutely, absolutely centered by the
Speaker 1: media to be the story of the week. I'm happy
Speaker 1: with that because it means the two little too late
Speaker 1: tax cut stuff that Prime Minister wasn't able to tell
Speaker 1: lies about that all week that actually got connected. But
Speaker 1: don't you love when the media lift up these senators
Speaker 1: nobody's ever heard of, versus completely ignore people like a
Speaker 1: Ralph Babbott who's elected to the Senate, passes motions in
Speaker 1: the Senate, but they won't interview.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but the difference there is a great difference. I mean,
Speaker 9: she's done something which has not ever really been done
Speaker 9: in Labor history. I mean mel Colston resigned and then
Speaker 9: we have, of course Billy Hughes one hundred years ago.
Speaker 9: She's defied the Labor Party rules across the floor, then
Speaker 9: said she's abstaining and then resigned. So is that newsworthy?
Speaker 1: It is?
Speaker 9: What she's done is newsworthy. What isn't newsworthy? Mate to
Speaker 9: be quite frank, and I don't accept what Lisa said.
Speaker 9: I think demonstrations are designed to intimidate people. He's left
Speaker 9: to his hard left. You know, fascist demonstrations are designed
Speaker 9: to intimidate people, and they do intimidate people. They certainly
Speaker 9: do intimidate people. But there's two things. First of all,
Speaker 9: is it newsworthy any longer? I mean, is it really
Speaker 9: of great import that for clowns? You know, Jewish hating
Speaker 9: clowns are on top of the Parliament House.
Speaker 1: We don't news And I'm just going to say, remember
Speaker 1: we don't show streakers anymore because we don't want to
Speaker 1: encourage streak outs. Why would you? This is basically principle now,
Speaker 1: which means fine, if I've got to put up with
Speaker 1: the extinction rebellion people, I also get to see naked
Speaker 1: people at the footing, all right, So just pick a
Speaker 1: hand one or let it all hang out. That's my
Speaker 1: view on this.
Speaker 9: All the other thing are extinct are extinction rebellion demonstrations
Speaker 9: newsworthy anymore. And secondly, you know, I wonder particular with
Speaker 9: these Jewish hating Palestinian demonstrations, many of which are you know,
Speaker 9: have HMAS supporters there? Have they? These people lost their
Speaker 9: social license to demonstrate. I mean, in Australia, a peaceful
Speaker 9: demonstration where you don't interfere with other people is considered legitimate.
Speaker 9: But these demonstrations full of vicious hatred, law breaking, nasty, provocative,
Speaker 9: full of hate speech. Is this legitimate in Australia in
Speaker 9: terms of you know, we know the law can't stop them,
Speaker 9: doesn't stop them, and you can say anything you want
Speaker 9: in Australia, do anything you want to not be arrested,
Speaker 9: as we know from the demonstrations in Sydney. But boy,
Speaker 9: you know, is a social license trampled on by these people?
Speaker 9: I would have thought, say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very good, very good point. But of course the
Speaker 1: little state's all under the guys of you know, a
Speaker 1: nation state as opposed to all of that stuff. Let's
Speaker 1: get to Biden. Let's get to Biden. So it is fascinating, Lisa.
Speaker 1: It's obvious where the media wants to go. But what's
Speaker 1: incredible is the media want him out, not because he's
Speaker 1: not fit for offers. It's just because he won't win,
Speaker 1: all right, Because of course if he's not fit for offers,
Speaker 1: he should be out now, let alone, you know, propped
Speaker 1: up between now in November. But he is doing he's
Speaker 1: making the most of the awkwardness of somebody coming out
Speaker 1: against him and using all of the advantages of the
Speaker 1: incumbency to barricade himself in and self selecting the people
Speaker 1: who come and meet him and then go out and
Speaker 1: say how amazing all is. It's not going to work,
Speaker 1: but it'll put it off the inevitable for a little while,
Speaker 1: and that's good for Trump, right. Yeah.
Speaker 6: The person I feel sorry for here is the White
Speaker 6: House spokesperson because how many excuses does she have to
Speaker 6: keep coming up with we had, the cold we had,
Speaker 6: is having a bad day, and now she's there denying
Speaker 6: that these conversations are happening behind closed doors. But what's
Speaker 6: telling is that people are now staying to leak about
Speaker 6: what is happening in those conversations. And as you say,
Speaker 6: once the donor's closed the purses, well then what happens
Speaker 6: from there. So the great piece I loved about today
Speaker 6: was they just put block on your phone and block them.
Speaker 6: The message will get through thick and fast, and Michael
Speaker 6: will know this. As soon as the money drives up, well,
Speaker 6: you know, support for Biden's going to quickly dry up
Speaker 6: as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, it's fascinating, Michael. Look again, I
Speaker 1: think he can use all of his advantages to barricade
Speaker 1: himself in great He's going to lose.
Speaker 9: Not only is he going to lose, mate, he's not
Speaker 9: going to run. He's finished. He's not the Democratic candidate.
Speaker 9: He will be standing down as a Democratic candidate. The
Speaker 9: Democratic Convention starts on the ninetieth of August next month, right,
Speaker 9: so what's that three six weeks away, seven weeks away.
Speaker 9: He will stand down either before then or at that convention.
Speaker 9: They cannot go through the charade of him winning the
Speaker 9: convention and everyone's standing giving him, you know, standing ovations
Speaker 9: and applause and saying how incredibly he is and wonderful
Speaker 9: he is, and he's on the top of his game
Speaker 9: and his mind sharp, and then having him resign a
Speaker 9: couple of months later, and having to put Harris in
Speaker 9: and then go to the other and they can't do
Speaker 9: that if he's going he's got to go by August nineteen,
Speaker 9: and he is going by August nineteen. You cannot possibly
Speaker 9: have this bloke as the candidate. And it looks it
Speaker 9: looks increasingly likely as every day passes that Harris will
Speaker 9: be the candidate for a multitude of reasons. But I'll
Speaker 9: tell you, having just come back from Europe, mate, the
Speaker 9: most interesting thing is this. Until last Friday, in that debate,
Speaker 9: watch viewers of Sky News and Paul Murray Show in particular,
Speaker 9: we're two years ahead of European and American opinion. Because
Speaker 9: it's only a last Friday that people said, hang on this,
Speaker 9: I've set in this debate, this brokes. He's a brick
Speaker 9: short of a load.
Speaker 1: He's got dementia.
Speaker 9: There's something wrong with him. Because the American left, hard
Speaker 9: left press, that's not the mainstream press anymore, just the
Speaker 9: hard left press seen in New York Times, the British press.
Speaker 9: They had all been listening to the White House spokeswoman
Speaker 9: who's saying no's he's absolutely on top of his game.
Speaker 9: He's as sharp as attack. And now on the last
Speaker 9: Friday that people learned what you'd been telling people for
Speaker 9: two years that Joe Biden, Joe Biden unfortunately is incapable
Speaker 9: of carrying on. And it's come as a huge shock
Speaker 9: to everyone in Europe and America that this bloke isn't
Speaker 9: up to the job. I mean, it is just totally
Speaker 9: bizarre and shame on. Shame on those left wing media
Speaker 9: organization in America who've been protecting Biden. I'm not the
Speaker 9: first to make this part, obviously, but shame on them,
Speaker 9: because mate, as anywhey's watched you for two years is known,
Speaker 9: he has had a very sad and rapid decline over
Speaker 9: that period and it's terrible, and you know, it's frightening
Speaker 9: to watch. He's the leader of the free world.
Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, Lisa, you're winner or loser of the week?
Speaker 1: Who is it?
Speaker 6: I'm going to go who's a winner of the week,
Speaker 6: which I don't think exists any anyone out there who
Speaker 6: was reporting on the parliamentary ball and didn't and didn't
Speaker 6: comment on the men and what men were wearing? Who
Speaker 6: are you wearing?
Speaker 5: What are you wearing?
Speaker 4: Or we heard about what the.
Speaker 6: Women were wearing? And I think we should be past
Speaker 6: that now.
Speaker 1: Oh look at you. I like it, but weren't the
Speaker 1: blokes are wearing the same boring black suit. There's not
Speaker 1: there's nothing in it. There's not, there's no But then
Speaker 1: then again, now we're going to have people that have
Speaker 1: got the message in the lining and all of that stuff,
Speaker 1: which AOC did years ago, and it was garbage then
Speaker 1: as well. But no, fair point. I can't interrupt Michael
Speaker 1: winner or a loser.
Speaker 6: Well, then we get to ignore the dresses.
Speaker 1: Okay, now I understand what you were saying.
Speaker 9: Winner of the week clearly the man who said you
Speaker 9: sure did beat many care you bet it to death.
Speaker 9: He's the winner of the week and the loser of
Speaker 9: the week, the loser of the week, two of them, Macron,
Speaker 9: the president of France and Sunak, the Prime Minister of Britain.
Speaker 9: As a warning to politicians they're going to lose anyway,
Speaker 9: don't call unnecessary early elections. The public don't like it.
Speaker 1: Here here through Malcolm Timberland for the triumper and if
Speaker 1: you'd like, all right, thank you, so you later enjoy
Speaker 1: your weekend. Megan Kelly joins us from the US next.
Speaker 1: I wonder what we're talking about. I want to see. Well,
Speaker 1: as you know, it feels like all hell is breaking
Speaker 1: loose in the United States, but amazingly despite all the noise,
Speaker 1: all the news, Biden, it looks like he's trying to
Speaker 1: barricade himself into the job, into the White House. The
Speaker 1: times are tough, the news is big. But Meghan Kelly
Speaker 1: always looks a million bucks. How can you look so
Speaker 1: good during a time like this?
Speaker 10: Honestly, I'm just I'm a glow from the fire hose
Speaker 10: of news that we've been drinking from today.
Speaker 8: It's wonderful to have news to cover. This is kind of.
Speaker 10: Dark stuff, But you know, I can't say I'm sorry
Speaker 10: to see it happening because they've been lying to us.
Speaker 10: They've been defrauding the American people about our president's mental state.
Speaker 10: We've known it was a fraud. You at Sky News
Speaker 10: have been doing more honest coverage of our president's cognitive
Speaker 10: abilities than the American news media has. So I don't
Speaker 10: really shed any tears over what they're going through right
Speaker 10: now because they created this mess.
Speaker 1: Look, I can't believe it, but he looks like he's
Speaker 1: doubling down and now one's going to be able to
Speaker 1: force him out.
Speaker 10: You know, the five stages of grief are said to
Speaker 10: start with denial, Right, it's not happening, No, it's not
Speaker 10: the case. And then I think eventually we're going to
Speaker 10: get to bargaining and anger and finally acceptance. But the
Speaker 10: odds of a democratic president being able to withstand the
Speaker 10: kind of media assault that he is under right now
Speaker 10: are slim and nun I've never seen it done before.
Speaker 10: I mean, he'd have to pull a Trump, and he's
Speaker 10: no Trump. The leftists in our country care what the
Speaker 10: New York Times says. They care what's in Politico and
Speaker 10: on CNN and MSNBC and mourning Joe, and they're hearing
Speaker 10: almost universally the same message, which is he's infirm, he
Speaker 10: is in cognitive decline.
Speaker 8: They're lying to us about.
Speaker 10: His ability to do it, and oh, by the way,
Speaker 10: he can't win.
Speaker 8: He can't win.
Speaker 10: And the most devastating thing that's happened to Joe Biden
Speaker 10: after the Thursday night debate. I remember this time last
Speaker 10: week we talked and I said, oh, I can't wait
Speaker 10: to talk.
Speaker 8: To you after the debate.
Speaker 10: My god, if only we had seen exactly how catastrophic
Speaker 10: it would be. The only thing that really mattered after
Speaker 10: that debate was this release by Puck News of the
Speaker 10: internal Democrat polls, and those are the best reason I've
Speaker 10: seen so far to predict it's over for Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: And I think what annoys me is that the people
Speaker 1: who are trying to move him on and not doing
Speaker 1: it because he's an embarrassment to the country. They're not
Speaker 1: doing it because he can't govern the country. They're simply
Speaker 1: doing it because they think he can't win.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so two points on that one. The polls are
Speaker 10: so bad, I don't know how to describe to you
Speaker 10: how bad they are. Yes, the New York Times is
Speaker 10: putting it at six point spread among likely voters. It's
Speaker 10: I think nine with registered which is just absolutely devastating.
Speaker 10: But we don't have a national election here. We have,
Speaker 10: you know, an electoral college, and what that means is
Speaker 10: these critical six to eight depending on how generous you are,
Speaker 10: swing states are going to decide this presidential race. And
Speaker 10: he's hemorrhaging in the swing states.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 10: He's lost at least two points according to these internal
Speaker 10: Democrat polls in every single swing state. CBS News has
Speaker 10: a poll out putting it.
Speaker 8: At more like four points of loss.
Speaker 10: Sorry, it's more like between two and three on the
Speaker 10: internal bowl, more like four with CBS and it's not
Speaker 10: just the swing states. Now that debate has made non
Speaker 10: swinging states, states that are reliably blue states suddenly swing
Speaker 10: states or leaning red. New Hampshire Donald Trump is now
Speaker 10: up by two. Joe Biden won New Hampshire by seven.
Speaker 10: Just six months ago, he was winning it by ten.
Speaker 10: It's been a twelve point swing New Hampshire to Donald
Speaker 10: Trump's territory. New Mexico. Joe Biden now up just by
Speaker 10: one in the five way. He's up by two in
Speaker 10: the two way. Just before the debate, Biden was up
Speaker 10: by seven New Mexico. We should not be talking about
Speaker 10: this state. It is reliably blue. Same story in Virginia,
Speaker 10: which once upon a time was red, but for the
Speaker 10: past several election cycles has been solidly blue. All those
Speaker 10: Democrats from Washington d C.
Speaker 8: Moved there.
Speaker 10: It's right next door in northern Virginia and turned it blue.
Speaker 10: No longer. It's looking redder and redder by the second.
Speaker 10: Forget the swing states. He's taking the reliably blue states
Speaker 10: and making them swing states or red states. That is
Speaker 10: going to lead them to kick him out. Now, yes,
Speaker 10: it's ultimately his decision, but he's not going to be
Speaker 10: able to withstand party leadership coming out and pushing him,
Speaker 10: and mark my words, if these party leaders believe he's
Speaker 10: going to cost them the Senate and the House, right
Speaker 10: that they're because the Democrats are hoping to reclaim control
Speaker 10: of the House. So if he's going to cost them
Speaker 10: the Senate and the House and the White House, they
Speaker 10: will push him out. They will make it so that
Speaker 10: he cannot hold on. So that's point number one, point
Speaker 10: number two on the news media. The only reason that
Speaker 10: they're doing this is because the jig is up. Saw
Speaker 10: with our own eyes the state that he is in
Speaker 10: is no longer possible for them to deny the state
Speaker 10: that he's in. We've now seen and heard it for
Speaker 10: ninety minutes straight. And on top of that, they've realized
Speaker 10: that their lawfare campaign failed. It failed miserably, and so
Speaker 10: they have no choice but to break glass in case
Speaker 10: of emergency and do the unthinkable, get rid of him
Speaker 10: and try their luck with anyone, anyone other than Biden.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Kamala. Is there any proof that she
Speaker 1: would do any better? Every Paul I've ever saying says
Speaker 1: she's less popular than Biden.
Speaker 8: There's no evidence about whatsoever.
Speaker 10: And I think there's a fair amount of evidence to
Speaker 10: the contrary. She right now, according to the latest poll, is
Speaker 10: doing a little better in a hypothetical matchup against Joe
Speaker 10: Biden than Biden, in a matchup against Donald Trump than
Speaker 10: Biden is. However, her numbers will fall precipitously. They will
Speaker 10: fall like that. As soon as they say she's the
Speaker 10: new nominee. The Republicans will unleash a.
Speaker 8: Flurry of ads.
Speaker 10: And unlike what the Democrats said were chief fakes, they
Speaker 10: don't have to cheap fake anything.
Speaker 8: By the way, they weren't cheap fakes. They were real.
Speaker 10: All of Biden's infirm moments. They just have to keep
Speaker 10: showing Kamala Harris.
Speaker 8: Just show her.
Speaker 10: She doesn't have to be stumbling, she doesn't have to
Speaker 10: be falling down like Joe Biden. Just show her show
Speaker 10: we're laughing, Show her attempts at humor, Show her attempts
Speaker 10: to instruct us about space, about Ukraine, about being unburdened
Speaker 10: by what has been, by what can be, which is
Speaker 10: about said about forty times a day every time she's
Speaker 10: trying to inspire us. She is not an inspirational leader.
Speaker 10: She knows about as much as this pen on most
Speaker 10: of our history, and no one wants to spend any
Speaker 10: more time with her, so her numbers will fall, and
Speaker 10: they will fall fast.
Speaker 8: And the Democrats know this.
Speaker 10: They have to pretend that they're considering her because the
Speaker 10: biggest voting block of the Democrat Party is black women.
Speaker 10: They can't tell those people they're turfing the black woman
Speaker 10: who they put into the office because she's black and
Speaker 10: a woman. How's that going to go?
Speaker 1: Your Ruckstot, thank you so much, thank you, thank you
Speaker 1: very much.
Speaker 8: Great to see you.