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Speaker 1: On scoring lids Australia. This is the Wader Panalty Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Patahy Show. Coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight. Australians facing another round of skyrocketing bills, with

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Speaker 2: interest rates, power bills and health insurance premiums set to

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Speaker 2: jump next week. My panel will join me at a

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Speaker 2: couple of days. Top headlines one nation attacked on all

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Speaker 2: fronts after its success in the South Australian election.

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Speaker 3: Barnaby Joyce will join the program.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to miss that Ice agents called in

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Speaker 2: to restore order at airports across the US. Kosher Gata

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Speaker 2: will cover that and the latest news from the US.

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Speaker 2: And Alex Stein is on the ground in Dallas ahead

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Speaker 2: of Sea Pack. He finds out what Americans really think

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Speaker 2: about the Iran war that's coming up later in the

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Speaker 2: hour and.

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Speaker 3: Left he is losing It features this confused lass and

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Speaker 3: sem you for using.

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Speaker 4: Lesbian politics as a front for your transphobia, because this

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Speaker 4: lesbian has had plenty of girlfriends with penises.

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Speaker 2: But first Australian business leaders have worn the Albanezy government

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Speaker 2: not to meddle in work from home arrangements during the

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Speaker 2: fuel crisis, Energy Minister Chris Bowen on Sunday suggested people

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Speaker 2: should be working from home where possible, noting that work

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Speaker 2: from home has become an important part of Australian working life.

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Speaker 2: Property developed him Gerner said Chris Bowen's comments are sending

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Speaker 2: the wrong signal to employees at the wrong time. Chris Lucas,

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Speaker 2: who runs one of Australia's largest hospitality empires, said shutting

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Speaker 3: Would only lead to more economic misery.

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Speaker 2: He said calling for work from home is a poorly

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Speaker 2: considered reactionary move that would only further erode employment and

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Speaker 2: the economy, placing even more pressure on a faltering economy.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure anyone wants this. A more practical approach

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Speaker 2: should focus on actions to ensure our eco economy and workers'

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Speaker 2: lives are not impacted. Joining me now is News Corpus

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Speaker 2: senior writer Patrick Carline and Institute of Public Affairs Research

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Speaker 2: fellow Colleen Harken.

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Speaker 3: Patrick.

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Speaker 2: Business leaders seem increasingly nervous about the Albanese government's management

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Speaker 2: of the economy, including the lack of planning. They don't

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Speaker 2: seem to be prepared at all for any sort of

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Speaker 2: disruption in the fuel supply that's right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you really want to firm government in times

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Speaker 5: of uncertainty. And Chris Bowen coming out and saying on

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Speaker 5: the weekend, well, maybe work from home is a good thing. Well,

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Speaker 5: it sort of brings in the question do we have

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Speaker 5: a crisis? And how big is that crisis? They don't

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Speaker 5: seem to be managing certainly the pr of it very well.

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Speaker 5: And people like Chris Lucas, I mean here is one

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Speaker 5: of the strongest voices during the lockdowns back in COVID

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Speaker 5: against Dan Andrews. I listened to people like Chris Lucas.

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Speaker 5: They know what they're talking about. They understand the economics

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Speaker 5: of these things in a way that Chris Bowen certainly

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Speaker 5: doesn't seem to at the moment.

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Speaker 2: And Colleen, people like Chris Lucas have skin in the game.

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Speaker 2: They actually employ people, they run businesses, and they can

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Speaker 2: see the impact of these policies.

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Speaker 3: I know there's business leaders.

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Speaker 2: I've spoken to many, many business leaders who are shying

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Speaker 2: away from investing in Victoria because of our work from

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Speaker 2: home laws that are going to be enshrined.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Correct, And look, the government has no place to tell

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Speaker 7: business to encourage their employees to work from home. It's

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Speaker 7: just what they should be concentrating is on the supply

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Speaker 7: chain issues and making sure that now and in the

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Speaker 7: future we have energy sovereignty and fuel sovereignty and all

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Speaker 7: those things that the government can do. It is not

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Speaker 7: their place to stick their finger in a local business.

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Speaker 7: Some of these businesses are only just recovering after COVID. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: because of the work from home scenario. Families are already

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Speaker 7: under stressed dealing with the whole range of cost of

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Speaker 8: People do not need to be told, oh, it'll be

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Speaker 8: fine to stay at home, to.

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Speaker 3: Stay at home, Yeah, what's that?

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Speaker 2: Is really almost a comical response to the crisis we

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Speaker 2: find ourselves in. You mentioned the cost of living crisis.

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Speaker 2: That's about to get worse another wave of skyrocketing bills,

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Speaker 2: with interest rates, power bills, and health insurance premiums all

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Speaker 3: New data from compare Club shows.

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Speaker 2: The average household faces more than two thousand dollars in

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Speaker 2: extra annual costs from April one. Patrick, This cost of

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Speaker 2: living crisis is only getting worse. We were expecting during

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Speaker 2: that last election consecutive interest rate drops. We're going to

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Speaker 3: That that's right, it's gone the other way. Plus we've

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Speaker 5: We're looking at potentially four dollars a later for petrol

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Speaker 5: and feel I think that two thousand dollars is probably

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Speaker 5: depending on where the war goes and for how long

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Speaker 5: it plays out for It's going to be a really

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Speaker 5: tricky time. And that's be because we came into when

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Speaker 5: the start of the war in a perilous position. When

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Speaker 5: it came to we have low productivity, we've got rising inflation,

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Speaker 5: we've got interest rates going up.

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Speaker 1: It is a perfect storm.

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Speaker 2: And we are completely dependent on foreign oil. That is

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Speaker 2: the shameful thing here, and that's something that's happened over

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Speaker 2: decades of bad policies, But on this particular set of

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Speaker 2: bills that are about to increase April one, Colleen, I

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Speaker 2: wonder how many people are going to drop their health

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Speaker 2: insurance because that's set to jump, and that's just going

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Speaker 2: to put extra pressure on the public system.

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Speaker 7: It's one of the first things that go when people

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Speaker 7: are under financial pressure.

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Speaker 8: The other thing tonight.

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Speaker 7: Here to a point that you just made earlier about

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Speaker 7: the cost of doing business in Victoria, and how many

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Speaker 7: businesses will actually pursue their infrastructure here and whether it's

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Speaker 7: just easier not to do it into state. There was

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Speaker 7: a survey that came out the other day that said

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Speaker 7: a third of Victorians.

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Speaker 8: Are thinking of leaving. I mean, this is all very

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Speaker 8: serious warning signs for what's going to happen.

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Speaker 7: If people can't put food on the table because of

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Speaker 7: the way that our state is being rung, they're very

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Speaker 7: likely to look elsewhere. Businesses will find it much easier

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Speaker 7: to deal with doing business interstate. These are all warnings

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Speaker 7: about what's coming up for the next twelve, two years,

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Speaker 7: three years.

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Speaker 3: Patrick.

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Speaker 2: That data was in the Herald Sun yesterday. I want

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Speaker 2: to say it even shocked me to have I think

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Speaker 2: it was thirty six percent of Victorians, and we're talking

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Speaker 2: about across metro and regional areas, young and old Victorians

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Speaker 2: saying they are wanting to move. I mean that's a

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Speaker 2: drastic move, pulling up and moving into state or to

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Speaker 3: That's not something you consider lightly.

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Speaker 5: Older Victorians have seen good times in Victoria through the nineties.

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Speaker 5: We came off a recession that came good through the

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Speaker 5: two thousands. Victoria was a happening place. It was a

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Speaker 5: and growing. And you have that counterpoint now where everything

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Speaker 5: seems to be shrinking, everything seems to be harder. The

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Speaker 5: government doesn't have a clue what it's doing. It's incompetent

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Speaker 5: on so many levels. It's not a happy place to be.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't feel like it's progressive, does it No?

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Speaker 2: And we've been demoralized by just little cuts as well.

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Speaker 2: We lost the Grand Prix down in Philip Island. There's

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Speaker 2: now talk today that the avalon air show may also

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Speaker 2: be stolen by South Australia.

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Speaker 3: And these are just little cuts. That's reminiscent by a

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Speaker 3: thousand cuts. That's it.

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Speaker 2: It reminds me of those Cane Kerner years where we

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Speaker 2: really were in a lot of trouble. Perhaps we're in

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Speaker 2: more trouble now. We're certainly in a lot more debt now.

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Speaker 2: Tens of thousands of Victorian teachers more good news coming up.

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Speaker 2: Tens of thousands of Victorian teachers have walked out of

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Speaker 2: the classrooms in their first strike in over a decade.

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Speaker 2: Parents received mixed messages on Monday afternoon as school's advice

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Speaker 2: families to keep their children at home while the government

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Speaker 2: and insisted it had the workforce to keep schools open.

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Speaker 2: Most schools today operated in a supervisory capacity only, Patrick.

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Speaker 2: The teachers Union is pushing for a thirty five percent

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Speaker 2: pay increase and improved work conditions. I mean, I know

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Speaker 2: there are amber claims, but goodness me, they are pushing

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Speaker 2: for some extraordinary increases here.

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Speaker 5: Look, I think surprisingly Having said that, I agree it

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Speaker 5: sounds extraordinary that amount of a pay rise, but Victorian

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Speaker 5: teachers are the lowest paid in Australia. There is some

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Speaker 5: sympathy for them, and there's a lot of antipathy towards

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Speaker 5: the Allen government of this and so many other things.

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Speaker 5: It'll be interesting, I say, this is just another symbol

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Speaker 5: of an incompetent government. Really, I mean they've been negotiating.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there're are negotiations with nurses and police officers and.

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Speaker 1: So on all the time.

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Speaker 5: The fact that it's actually got to the point of

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Speaker 5: a strike, it's just another sort of black mark against

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Speaker 5: the competency of this governm Life Colleen.

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Speaker 2: They have been offered a what I would consider a

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Speaker 2: pretty significant jump in earnings already, but this is going

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Speaker 2: to be at first what our striking first time in

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Speaker 2: ten years and it is an election here.

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Speaker 3: If you're going to strike, it's the time to do it.

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Speaker 7: Look, I have a slightly different view. We all want

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Speaker 7: teachers to be paid well. Patrick's right that the Victorian

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Speaker 7: teachers are the lowest paid in the country. We do

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Speaker 7: want them to be paid well for doing a good job,

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Speaker 7: but there is another question mark here about return on investment.

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Speaker 7: Ten years ago, teachers at our student ratio was about

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Speaker 7: eleven thousand dollars per student in a state budget. It's

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Speaker 7: now at twenty one thousand dollars per student and we're

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Speaker 7: not getting the results for that. About a third of

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Speaker 7: our students are failing to meet minimum standards. So I'm

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Speaker 7: all for paying teacher as well. They have an incredibly

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Speaker 7: important job. But I also want to see a focus

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Speaker 7: on their core purpose, and that's to actual that our

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Speaker 7: and that's the gap that we have. I also am

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Speaker 7: not a big fan of the Australian Education Union who's

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Speaker 7: more focused on classroom activism than they are on actually

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Speaker 7: making sure that the kids can read and write. So

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Speaker 7: we want the teachers to be paid well, but I

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Speaker 2: Colleen, what you identify is a nationwide issue. Hour spent

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Speaker 2: on education has gone up across the country and yet

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Speaker 2: the results are going backwards. But Patrick, interestingly, the responsible

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Speaker 2: minister here in Victoria, maybe our next premiere and had

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Speaker 2: more polling out today showing Justiner Allen is hugely unpopular

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Speaker 2: and perhaps with Ben Carroll in the top job, they

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Speaker 2: could be re elected Labor.

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Speaker 5: Look, Ben Carroll's a bit more right. He's not as

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Speaker 5: ideologically jealous, if you like. He occasionally makes common sense

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Speaker 5: sort of statements that are odds with the Allen government line.

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Speaker 5: I think he'd be far more palatable as a leader

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Speaker 5: than Justintera Allen. But there are so many dynamics in

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Speaker 5: play at the moment. You've got one nation in South Australia,

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Speaker 5: one nation in Victoria, he said, the Liberal Party with

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Speaker 5: Jess Wilson. The Liberals have been messing it up for

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Speaker 5: a decade or longer. They're finally starting to get it right.

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Speaker 5: There are so many factors in play here, it's very

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Speaker 5: difficult to predict what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you mentioned One Nation and Pauline Hanson has

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Speaker 2: revealed her policy focus as the party prepares for its

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Speaker 2: membership base to exceed fifty thousand people. Hanson has promised

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Speaker 2: to replace large scale renewable projects with coal and nuclear

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Speaker 7: Look, I think that the One Nation impact will be

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Speaker 2: And I've long said if Victoria wants to be an

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Speaker 2: and the Libs don't talk about that at all, and

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Speaker 5: Yes, looks you'll hear this a lot this year. You'll

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Speaker 2: I just think this current strategy is foolhardy from the Liberals.

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Speaker 3: Head, stop child, that is to be just dismissed. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: That their policy positions are far more in line with

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Speaker 8: You never tell the punter that they what they're doing correct.

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Speaker 7: And I think part of this component is that the

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Speaker 2: It is it's patronizing and it's really Australians don't react

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Speaker 3: They're not doing that out of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: They're doing that because there are paid attention and they're

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Speaker 3: Is getting whiter.

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Speaker 2: The Peace states that in the NRL, fifty one percent

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Speaker 2: a little more than seventy percent of all AFL players

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Speaker 3: But how do you see this issue?

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Speaker 3: So I really can't.

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Speaker 5: Well, look, Indigenous players have made the AFL go around

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Speaker 1: It's good for them.

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Speaker 5: And the group that suffers for that are those Indigenous

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Speaker 2: And I would also argue the AFL's obsession with race

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Speaker 2: Patrick Carlin and Colleen Harken, thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: your time, pleasure. We spoke yesterday about the orange wave

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Speaker 2: One Nation recorded a primary vote of over twenty.

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Speaker 3: Percent at the state election.

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Speaker 2: The party has so far won two seats in the

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Speaker 2: Joyce Barnaby. It's an incredible result. He has sent shockwaves

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Speaker 9: No, it's a political marketplace out there, reader, and obviously

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Speaker 9: the Liberal Party is not the product that they want

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Speaker 1: And give it to the true concern.

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Speaker 9: Ultimately, people make a decision at the at the ballot box.

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Speaker 9: They make a decision and are considered decision. If they've

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Speaker 1: Of it, of its views.

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Speaker 9: It's not chasing the sensible center. It's not wanting to

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Speaker 9: It believes that people should have a right to stay

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Speaker 9: so they vote. And that's the wonderful thing about democracy.

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Speaker 9: People get to vote for what they believe in. Now,

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Speaker 9: doesn't mean that you're not providing someone supply and confidence

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Speaker 2: Now you've personally come under fire from some in the

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Speaker 10: Criticism is ownly continuing to mount as it calls to

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Speaker 9: I don't want to be tried about it. But it's

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Speaker 10: Comparing Muslims to livestock not racist. According to South Australian teammate.

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Speaker 9: It's only the lefties, the bleeding heart lefties who don't

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Speaker 2: Barnaby any regrets about that analogy or is this the

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Speaker 9: Left being determined to be offended in fact, before that,

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Speaker 9: this Catholicism, Sinaloa. I think Cinelo, where the Sinela cartels.

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Speaker 1: I think that would be foolish. Nor do I want to.

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Speaker 9: If you have a disproportionate number who when they arrive

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Speaker 9: that would be foolish.

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Speaker 2: I like the analogy, but there were plenty from SBS

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Speaker 2: and elsewhere who were very offended. But let's move on

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Speaker 2: to the attacks you're getting on the political fronts. You've

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Speaker 2: got the Greens, Labor, the Liberals coming for One Nation.

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Speaker 2: Here is small old Senator Maria kopfchic warning that a

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Speaker 2: vote for one Nation is a vote for labor.

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Speaker 3: Let me be.

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Speaker 11: Very clear as to the singular outcome of that election

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Speaker 11: result on Saturday night, and that is that a vote

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Speaker 11: for One Nation is a vote for a record labor majority.

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Speaker 11: If you want to labor governments across this country, you need.

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Speaker 6: To vote live for.

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Speaker 3: Barnaby what's your response to that?

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Speaker 9: Oh my god, where do I start with that one?

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Speaker 9: I'll tell you what here is the Here's a truth

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Speaker 9: about politics.

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Speaker 1: The Labor Party.

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Speaker 9: Lose because of incompetence, the Coalition lose because of arrogance,

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Speaker 9: but it helps us. They become arrogant after they've actually

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Speaker 9: been in government. What that senator is doing is becoming

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Speaker 9: arrogant even before she's arrived in government.

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Speaker 1: The contemptuous position.

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Speaker 9: That she says, if you dare vote for anybody but

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Speaker 9: me but me, you're voting for the Labor Party. I

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Speaker 9: think we're about as far from the Labor Party as

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Speaker 9: you get. I think we're a lot further from the

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Speaker 9: Labor Party than that particular senator just quietly.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's got something.

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Speaker 9: To do with the fact that she's number three on

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Speaker 9: the Coalition ticket and she knows that she's for the

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Speaker 9: high jump at the NETS federal election.

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Speaker 1: Because on the current polling.

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Speaker 9: That's obviously going to be a National Party senator and

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Speaker 9: if it's me, I'll be up against her and I'll

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Speaker 9: make sure it's a National Party senator.

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Speaker 2: Well, there were almost two thousand comments on that post

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Speaker 2: that she put up on Instagram and most of them

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Speaker 2: reflected a viewpoint similar to the one you've just expressed.

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Speaker 3: I was quite surprised going through those comments.

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Speaker 2: Now, the Victorian election is later this year, the New

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Speaker 2: South Wales election is next year.

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Speaker 3: What can we expect from one nation?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think that the party's growing obviously, it's a

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Speaker 9: massive membership now and the skill sets are growing as well.

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Speaker 9: Like any organization that grows, it has the.

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Speaker 1: Growing pains that you have to deal with.

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Speaker 9: But on the good side, you have so many more

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Speaker 9: skill sets coming in which complement what we already have.

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Speaker 9: You can see that I suppose in people such as

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Speaker 9: David Farley coming through now in Pharaoh, former CEO of

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Speaker 9: Collie Cotton, and the Australian Agricultural Company has done courses

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Speaker 9: in Harvard, So you can't be a fool. And this

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Speaker 9: is you're going to get more and more of that,

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Speaker 9: and I think you're going to be quite surprised with

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Speaker 9: candidates that I know of that will arrive, and when

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Speaker 9: they do arrive, you'll go, yep, top shelf, completely competent.

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Speaker 1: And that's what we want.

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Speaker 9: We want to give the Australian people an option that's

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Speaker 9: a real conservative option, and we have a different way

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Speaker 9: of doing politics.

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Speaker 1: We say, these.

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Speaker 9: Are the beliefs, these are the philosophical beliefs we hold.

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Speaker 1: We're not ashamed of them.

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Speaker 9: We will tell you what they are you and hopefully

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Speaker 9: we win the argument that you would agree with us.

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Speaker 9: We don't go chasing the sensible center or go pole chasing,

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Speaker 9: because that just shows you're weak and weak people ultimately

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Speaker 9: do not take the nation to a good place.

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Speaker 1: What you have? Have you got static statements of the

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Speaker 1: bleeding obvious?

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Speaker 2: Any names you want to tell us about these high

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Speaker 2: caliber candidates that you've got coming up, not just one

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Speaker 2: for our.

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Speaker 9: Audience, No, no, I don't, but I think it will

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Speaker 9: also to spell it also dispel the notion and some

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Speaker 9: of them where you know you're racist and your bigots.

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Speaker 9: I think you'll see something that people will come forward

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Speaker 9: and you go, hang on, they can't be and you're

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Speaker 9: dead right.

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Speaker 1: We're not.

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Speaker 9: We're conservative, which means we say things. We're not there

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Speaker 9: to make the SBS feel happy with us. In fact,

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Speaker 9: if the SBS and the Greens are happy with us,

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Speaker 9: we're probably not doing our job.

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Speaker 3: Bar to be Joyce, always a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your time tonight, Still to Karma left is

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Speaker 2: losing it plus lit or latest from the US, including

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Speaker 2: absolute mayhem across airports due to Democrat recalcitrants.

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Speaker 3: Kosher Gaido is up next.

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Speaker 2: You're watching the Rita Paney Show, and it's time for

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Speaker 2: lefties losing it. And let's go to Cuba and check

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Speaker 2: in on the commy convoy that's in the country right now.

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Speaker 3: These are pampered champagne socialists.

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Speaker 2: From the West in Cuba to slam the US, not

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Speaker 2: the communist dictatorship. And if that wasn't bad enough, they're

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Speaker 2: inflicting this hideous noise on the Cuban people.

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Speaker 3: That was the band Kneecap.

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Speaker 2: They got that name because folks would rather be kneecapped

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Speaker 2: than listen to a whole song. I mean, really, haven't

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Speaker 2: the Cuban people suffered enough? Now let's hear from a

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Speaker 2: crazy Canadian with dreams of murder, yes, dreams of assassination.

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Speaker 2: This woman works in the Canadian school system. That's when

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Speaker 2: she is not fantasizing about President Trump being killed.

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Speaker 12: I know we're all waiting for it to happen, but

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Speaker 12: here's what I want to see occur. When it happens.

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Speaker 12: With our luck, it's probably going to be that it's

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Speaker 12: going to happen in the middle of the night and

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Speaker 12: we're not going to know until the morning. But on

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Speaker 12: one of my previous posts, I said, if that happens

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Speaker 12: and you're a weak and you're aware of it, please

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Speaker 12: make sure you wake me up. Camesm and I think

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Speaker 12: that that is how this should go down. I don't

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Speaker 12: think it should be peaceful, compassionate.

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Speaker 2: Always the crazy eyes. They always have crazy eyes. It's

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Speaker 2: a warning, now, you know. I miss the good old

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Speaker 2: days when words had meanings. Lesbianism, for example, meant a

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Speaker 2: woman's exclusive attraction to other.

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Speaker 3: Women female bodies.

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Speaker 2: You think it'd be safe to assume that lesbians are

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Speaker 2: women sexually or romantically attracted to the female. But no,

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Speaker 2: these days that definition is bigoted because lesbians can have penises.

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Speaker 4: Apparently, Shame on you, Shame on all of you, and

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Speaker 4: shame on you for using lesbian politics as a front

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Speaker 4: for your transphobia, because this lesbian has had plenty of

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Speaker 4: girlfriends with penises.

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Speaker 3: Talk about confused and angry.

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Speaker 2: Now to the man Democrats think will be the next

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Speaker 2: Senator for the Great State of Texas, James Tallerico, who

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Speaker 2: here jokes about God's sausage and doubles down on his

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Speaker 2: claim that God is non binary.

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Speaker 13: How big is God's sausage?

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Speaker 1: Would you say?

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Speaker 14: We know God is a man, and so I'm just wondering,

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Speaker 14: like how healthy it's hog is?

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Speaker 13: So so I know this is rapid fire, but let

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Speaker 13: me just because do word answer yes or no? While

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Speaker 13: it's maybe provocative politically, I don't think it's controversial theologically.

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Speaker 13: Most Christians believe that God is beyond gender.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes lost for words, but let's stick with the sausage theme. Heah,

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Speaker 2: here is James tall Rico back in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: banning sausages to save the well formed catastrophic climate change.

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Speaker 15: As all of you know necessary to fight climate change,

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Speaker 15: it is now existential that we try to reduce our

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Speaker 15: meat consumption and that we try to respect animals in

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Speaker 15: all aspects of society. And so I am proud to

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Speaker 15: say that our campaign has officially become a non meat campaign,

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Speaker 15: so we we are only buying vegan products from our

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Speaker 15: local vegan businesses.

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Speaker 2: And of course it was still wearing a mask in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. This is the soyboy radical weirdo. The

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Speaker 2: Democrats want to represent Texas joining me now is Sky

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Speaker 2: News contributor Kosher Gaeta Kosher James tallerco is.

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Speaker 3: A unique candidate that's putting it nicely here.

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Speaker 16: Seems to be the gift that keeps giving for the

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Speaker 16: other side. There's so much video just sorro for seeing.

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Speaker 16: Obviously you played those clips, and it's really funny because

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Speaker 16: Jasmine Crockett had that mantle earlier and she also was

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Speaker 16: a gift the cup giving and now she's exited stage left.

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Speaker 16: He's in central stage and I have a feeling that

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Speaker 16: the Democrats might be regretting it potentially because the sky

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Speaker 16: and the things he's seeing in Texas. It's going to

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Speaker 16: be fun because.

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Speaker 2: They would have had a chance even in Texas, given

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Speaker 2: the midterms go against the sitting government. We know that

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Speaker 2: the swings normally come in quite strongly, and with gas

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Speaker 2: prices high and the war Iran, it was just ripe

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Speaker 2: for them to get a big win. And then they've

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Speaker 2: got a candidate like this. It's just so radical and

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Speaker 2: hard left and just weird.

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Speaker 16: To put it mildly, you know, the Texas has been

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Speaker 16: a forty year project for them, and a lot of

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Speaker 16: the immigration policy obviously being a border state, it sits

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Speaker 16: there and they have been shipping away and at the

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Speaker 16: county and local level have turned many parts of blue

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Speaker 16: beta or rouric. Remember him a Tad Cruz.

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Speaker 3: He came pretty close.

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Speaker 16: He came with an almost striking distance, which rattle people

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Speaker 16: because Tad Cruse was incumbent senator, had been there a

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Speaker 16: long time. Didn't pull it out in the end, but

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Speaker 16: you know, those are little signals.

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Speaker 2: So that a lot of money went into Beto's campaign,

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Speaker 2: a lot of money. So let's not forget it wasn't

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Speaker 2: an equal fight. Now you can file this next story

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Speaker 2: under you don't hate the leftist media enough. Have a

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Speaker 2: look at the headline they put on a story about

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Speaker 2: the New York Mazor and Mam Daney's wife and her

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Speaker 2: antics online, including liking October seven tweets glorifying terrorists using.

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Speaker 3: The N word.

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Speaker 2: According to CNN, it's just a little storm in a

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Speaker 2: tea cup about her her facing scrutiny over her art

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Speaker 2: and social media. I mean, really kosher. That is not

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Speaker 2: how they would describe a conservative who'd been caught saying

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Speaker 2: those sorts of words and liking those sorts of tweets.

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Speaker 2: But how radical is this first couple of New York.

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Speaker 16: Also maybe the gifts that keep giving, but different there

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Speaker 16: because their power is pretty secure, pretty cemented, because it

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Speaker 16: isn't a surprise. Maybe these particular tweets are surfacing now

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Speaker 16: or the art work, but they have not been shy

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Speaker 16: about how they view all sorts of issues and still

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Speaker 16: handily won, including by the Jewish community in New York,

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Speaker 16: which is a large diaspora, certainly the under forty five

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Speaker 16: year olds. I mentioned that in particular for obvious reasons,

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Speaker 16: but also across up and down the electorate, they seem

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Speaker 16: to be beyond approach. I think with the demographics and

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Speaker 16: the electorate the way it is today New York City.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be fascinating to see what happens in

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Speaker 2: New York over the next couple of years. We've already

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Speaker 2: got Peau saying they're selling up, they're leaving, they're not

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Speaker 2: going to pay those sorts of property taxes. But remains

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Speaker 2: to be seen. Now, let's hear from Democrat Ted lou here.

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Speaker 2: He accuses Donald Trump of.

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Speaker 3: Rape and murder.

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Speaker 2: This is astonishing, astonishing stunt, even by Democrat standards.

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Speaker 17: He met a girl who said she was raped by

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Speaker 17: Donald Trump, and Jeffrey Epstein. She later had her head

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Speaker 17: blown off, and officers at the scene said that could

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Speaker 17: not have been suicide.

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Speaker 3: Kosher.

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Speaker 2: There have been calls for President Trump to sue the

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Speaker 2: congressman there, but that's not likely for a very good reason.

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Speaker 16: Yes, so the speech and debate clause and Congress protects them.

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Speaker 16: That's an extra layer shield of protection legally, where anything

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Speaker 16: they says cannot be prosecuted. He has been similar comments

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Speaker 16: in a press conference though on February third, similar allegation,

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Speaker 16: so that would not be protected by that particular shield. However,

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Speaker 16: even without that, libel laws are very very strict for

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Speaker 16: public figures in the US because of the First Amendment.

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Speaker 16: It's really really hard to sue a public figure and win,

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Speaker 16: and I think everybody's aware of that. So I think

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Speaker 16: it's unlikely Trump goes there. He has been on a

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Speaker 16: suing spree with others, but they're all corporate people. So

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Speaker 16: even if it was George Stephanoplos, it was really EBC

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Speaker 16: and Disney where they settle so it doesn't go to trial.

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Speaker 2: And they said nothing like what we just heard. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is on another level.

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Speaker 16: But Tadlu is unlikely to be somebody who pursues because

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Speaker 16: he won't get a settlement to the tune of millions

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Speaker 16: of dollars.

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Speaker 3: Of millions of dollars exactly.

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Speaker 2: Now, there's been absolute mayhem at airports across America. This

681
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Speaker 2: is largely due to the Democrats refusal to pass legislation

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Speaker 2: that would ensure some measure of election integrity. TSA agents

683
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Speaker 2: are not being paid due to the partial government shutdown

684
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Speaker 2: affecting the Department of Homeland Security, and so ICE agents

685
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Speaker 2: have had to be called in to restore order. Let's

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Speaker 2: see how that's been working in America's busiest airport in Atlanta.

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Speaker 18: Finally, we can take a deep breath here. The numbers

688
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Speaker 18: have dropped off. The lines are getting shorter. I think

689
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Speaker 18: the average way time now is under forty minutes. So

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Speaker 18: if you have a flight to catch today, it's a

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Speaker 18: good time to become a Hartsfield Jackson International. Talking about those

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Speaker 18: ICE agents, you can see a few behind me right there,

693
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Speaker 18: and then I'm going to walk you this direction and

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Speaker 18: you can see some more of them gathered over here.

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Speaker 18: This is what they've been doing for the most part today,

696
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Speaker 18: is doing the patrols around the airport. Is what we're

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Speaker 18: being told is there's a protest schedule against ICE here

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Speaker 18: at the airport in the next two hours or so.

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Speaker 18: So now you have extra police officers from Atlanta Police

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Speaker 18: Department ready to respond to what may happen when protesters arrive.

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Speaker 2: Of course, as soon as order is restored, the leftists

702
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Speaker 2: are coming into cause having a can, they're going to

703
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Speaker 2: be there protesting ICE, who are actually getting people moving

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Speaker 2: because those delays, there were so many people showing up

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Speaker 2: four or five hours early for their flights and still

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Speaker 2: missing them.

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Speaker 16: And at dayt age of social media, it was crazy,

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Speaker 16: like the snake line going all the way out to

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Speaker 16: the parking lot and everyone around.

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Speaker 3: The world sees it.

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Speaker 16: It is funny the substituting ICE in there, because ICE

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Speaker 16: has been fully funded at least at its current capacity

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Speaker 16: in the big Beautiful Bill, whereas these other departments are

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Speaker 16: caught up in the shutdown fight. And so that would

715
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Speaker 16: really be funny if for any federal agency for short

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Speaker 16: on IRS agents, that's sub in ICE for short on

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Speaker 16: the TSA seven ICE, given the immigration problem in the agenda,

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Speaker 16: that would really be funny. I'll just make a quick

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Speaker 16: other broader point though, that the TSA there is a

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Speaker 16: whole sentiment out there that it should be abolished or

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Speaker 16: downsized completely. It's a relic of the Patriot Act after

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Speaker 16: nine to eleven. There isn't evidence that it really is

723
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Speaker 16: doing much to keep things safer. You could privatize it,

724
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Speaker 16: you could do it in a different way, and it's

725
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Speaker 16: just completely destroyed the experience of flying in America. It's

726
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Speaker 16: not the fault of the individual agents not getting paid

727
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Speaker 16: right now, but that's a whole other conversation worth unpacking

728
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Speaker 16: at some point now.

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Speaker 2: House Minority lead at Hakim Jeffries. He is kind that

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration's decision to deploy ICE two airports ICE

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Speaker 2: agents will create chaos and even imply that airline passages

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Speaker 2: could be killed by these ICE agents.

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Speaker 14: The last thing that the American people need are for

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Speaker 14: untrained ICE agents to be deployed at airports all across

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Speaker 14: the country, potentially to brutalize or in some instances, kill them.

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Speaker 14: We've already seen how ICE conducts itself.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what can you say to that.

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Speaker 2: You can tell the media knows precisely who's to blame

739
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Speaker 2: for this chaos we've seen at airports across America because

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Speaker 2: they haven't been keen to highlight it because so many

741
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Speaker 2: ordinary people, whatever their politics, have been impacted, and that's

742
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Speaker 2: something you remember perhaps when it's time to vote.

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Speaker 16: It is one of those few issues that actually affects you.

744
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Speaker 16: And if you have to weep seven hours and a misterflate,

745
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Speaker 16: you probably are going to remember that. On some level,

746
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Speaker 16: they're trying to vilify Ice. Obviously we know what happened

747
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Speaker 16: in Minneapolis, so that does give them a ready meat

748
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Speaker 16: there that they can copy and peace into every situation.

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Speaker 16: But the intermedion that you're a grandma trying to get

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Speaker 16: on a flight and your lafers and danger because he

751
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Speaker 16: says there, is ridiculous and he knows it.

752
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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: More on the communists convoy to Cuba, featuring pampered Western Communis,

754
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Speaker 2: including Hassan Piker, who has been accused of throwing food

755
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Speaker 2: at Cuban children. The goal of this whole exercise is

756
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Speaker 2: to embarrass the American government, the Trump administration, blaming them

757
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Speaker 2: for Cuba's many issues.

758
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Speaker 3: But the Cubans.

759
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Speaker 2: Themselves are fighting back against this narrative, including this gentleman

760
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Speaker 2: who had this message for the leftists.

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Speaker 6: You rather see, You.

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Speaker 18: Rather see when people keep suffering, because white, so Donald

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Speaker 18: Trump doesn't get the credit.

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Speaker 1: This is not about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 18: It's about somebody standing up finally and standing up to

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Speaker 18: a communist machine, a dictatorship kosher.

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Speaker 2: He also said the power grid has been cactus for

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Speaker 2: forty years in Kubat. Decades of communists rule have completely

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Speaker 2: devastated the country, and he's still got family in Cuba,

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Speaker 2: and obviously he wants to see it free. I'm just

771
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Speaker 2: shocked that these socialists, Western socialists aren't paying any attention.

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Speaker 2: They're not reading the room at all about what Cubans want.

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Speaker 2: The fact that more than a million of them have

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Speaker 2: fled the country because they don't want to live under

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Speaker 2: a communist dictatorship.

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Speaker 16: And they are always reliably center rate. Always people who

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Speaker 16: fled Eastern Europe, people who fled Cuba, understand what the

778
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Speaker 16: logical endpoint is of this sliding skill of having more

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Speaker 16: and more authoritarian government, in sliding into that Cuba is

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Speaker 16: a poster a child of what that can do. Forty

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Speaker 16: years of pure commerce regime. They also relied a lot

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Speaker 16: on external allies like Russia for oil, Iran Venezuela that's

783
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Speaker 16: drying up for all the reasons we know, which is

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Speaker 16: exacerbating that problem, and then the US and argos. So

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Speaker 16: it seems like Cuba is going to fall quote unquote,

786
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Speaker 16: and then we see what the Trump agenda does or

787
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Speaker 16: how they handle that, because that is part of their

788
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Speaker 16: strategy of hemispheric stability.

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Speaker 2: That would be a triumph if they Cuba falls the

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Speaker 2: communist dictation to sheep falls without a shot being fired.

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Speaker 2: That would be something to celebrate. Koshergator, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your time.

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Speaker 3: Pleasure still to come.

794
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Speaker 2: We hit the streets of Dallas to learn what Americans

795
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Speaker 2: really think of Trump's war against Iran. Alex Stein joins me. Next,

796
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Speaker 2: welcome back. Now, sadly, there's a terrible news from the

797
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Speaker 2: sanctuary city of Chicago, where a young woman, Sheridan Gorman,

798
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Speaker 2: has been killed by an illegal immigrant. Eighteen year old

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Speaker 2: Sheridan was a gunned down while taking a walk with

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Speaker 2: friends along Chicago's lakefront. Now, listen to this leftist member

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Speaker 2: of the Chicago City Council. Her name is Maria Hadden.

802
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: Listen to what she had to say about this shocking crime.

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Speaker 2: She all but blames the victim for startling the killer.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like this might have been a wrong place,

805
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Speaker 4: wrong time running into a person who had a gun.

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Speaker 3: They might have startled this person at the end of

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Speaker 3: the year unintentionally.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is the host of After Hours with

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Speaker 2: Alex Steine on Real America's Voice. Alex Stein that counselor

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Speaker 2: Maria Hadden is being slammed for those comments, including by

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Speaker 2: the grieving family of the young teenage victim. Sheridan Gorman's

812
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Speaker 2: family has released a statement referencing Hadden's remarks and said

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Speaker 2: the slain college student deserved the future that was stolen

814
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Speaker 2: from her. They also wrote, what happened to Sheridan cannot

815
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Speaker 2: be reduced to the idea of someone being in the

816
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Speaker 2: wrong place at the wrong time.

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Speaker 3: This is not an abstraction.

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Speaker 2: This is the loss of a daughter, the loss of

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Speaker 2: a sister, the loss of a future filled with milestones

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Speaker 2: that will now never come.

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Speaker 3: Our family is forever change.

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Speaker 2: Alex's is just another crime that wouldn't have happened if

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Speaker 2: the Democrats didn't embrace open borders and didn't have sanctuary

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Speaker 2: cities for those in the country illegally.

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Speaker 6: No Rita.

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Speaker 17: I mean, if you look at the leadership in Chicago,

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Speaker 17: it is one of the worst rand cities in the

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Speaker 17: entire world. And obviously this is a horrible tragedy. But

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Speaker 17: you know what's even I would argue, almost just as

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Speaker 17: big a tragedy is that they're losing the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 17: And I'm not even saying that to be funny, but

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Speaker 17: I'm saying, this is a city that doesn't care about

833
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Speaker 17: their citizens so much so that they had a football

834
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Speaker 17: franchise that everybody loved, and.

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Speaker 6: Now they're going to Indiana.

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Speaker 17: And when people get shot, the city council members don't

837
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Speaker 17: care because they literally do.

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Speaker 6: Not care about their citizens whatsoever.

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Speaker 17: So there's a laundry list of reasons that just proved

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Speaker 17: my point exactly. And Chicago's a place it used to

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Speaker 17: be great, and it is not even close to that

842
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Speaker 17: level anymore.

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Speaker 2: Well, individuals are flaying, businesses are flaying, and sporting clubs

844
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Speaker 2: are flaying.

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Speaker 3: From what you've just said.

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Speaker 2: Now, you're in Dallas, Seapack is in Dallas. This year,

847
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: you've been out and about talking to your fellow Texans

848
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Speaker 2: about the war in Iran.

849
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Speaker 3: Let's have a look.

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Speaker 6: What do you think about Donald Trump starting the war

851
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Speaker 6: with Iran? Why did we bomba school?

852
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: Why would you ever do that?

853
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: What?

854
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 11: Who decided that is that you Donald disappointed, He'll go away.

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00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 3: It's perfect, It's awesome.

856
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: You should have done it in a long time ago said

857
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Speaker 2: that this doesn't get out of place. Israel should not

858
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 2: have been attacked, and we're going to stand by Israel

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Speaker 2: no matter what.

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Speaker 13: What do you want to tell Trump?

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Speaker 6: He's going to see this.

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Speaker 1: Hey love you Trump, Hey you Trump.

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Speaker 18: The file.

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Speaker 3: In American and we still love you, we still support you.

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Speaker 2: Dallas is a little different, isn't it. It's not quite Austin,

866
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Speaker 2: but it's a little different. Tell me about the mood

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Speaker 2: on the ground and also what you expect to see

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Speaker 2: at seapack.

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Speaker 17: We'll read a seapack is going to be a lot

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Speaker 17: of fun, but there's also going to be a lot

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Speaker 17: of drama. I mean, it's obvious right now. A lot

872
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 17: of people are upset that we're having this war. A

873
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 17: lot of people were happy that we're having this war.

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Speaker 17: And it's a mixed bag. And luckily here in America,

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Speaker 17: our gas prices have been up about forty three percent

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Speaker 17: over the last three weeks, but that can easily go.

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Speaker 6: Down if this war ends.

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Speaker 17: I mean, today Trump said that he's negotiating peace talks

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Speaker 17: or a ceasefire, and then the prices went down a

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Speaker 17: little bit.

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Speaker 6: So I think everything that's happened can be fixed.

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Speaker 17: But I think as well, we're on a slippery slope

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Speaker 17: where things can get very scary, very fast, and the

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Speaker 17: potential for nuclear weapons as possible, So.

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Speaker 6: Nobody wants that to happen. Everybody wants cheap gas.

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Speaker 17: And to be fair, though the gas prices have not

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Speaker 17: gotten as high as they were under Biden when the

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Speaker 17: Ukraine War started, so things the wheels have not fallen

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Speaker 17: off yet by any means.

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Speaker 2: No, And the US is energy independent, something you can't

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Speaker 2: say for Australia, and I think you're a net exporter

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Speaker 2: of energy.

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Speaker 3: But tell me about what is happening in the conservative movement.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, SPAK is a huge annual event, a lot of

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Speaker 2: debate amongst conservatives.

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Speaker 3: Are the Republicans split.

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Speaker 2: Over the war in Iran? Or is it just a

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Speaker 2: minority who opposed this war?

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Speaker 6: No readA.

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Speaker 17: I mean, if you listen to CNN, it says one

901
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Speaker 17: hundred percent of MAGA supports this war, and that's just

902
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Speaker 17: provably false because I'm mag. I voted for Donald Trump

903
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Speaker 17: three times and I don't like this war because I

904
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Speaker 17: know that it's going to cause a lot of repercussions.

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Speaker 17: I mean, the likelihood of a terrorist attack happening in

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Speaker 17: America is only going.

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Speaker 6: To go up. And I would argue that now Iran

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Speaker 6: is going to be more motivated.

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Speaker 17: Than ever to get a nuclear weapon, and nobody wants

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Speaker 17: them to have a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they're literal terrorists.

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Speaker 17: But at the same exact time, now they're fighting a

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Speaker 17: proxy war with Russia and Iran who has been helping them,

914
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Speaker 17: And we've been helping Ukraine fight a proxy war with Russia.

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Speaker 17: So this very easily could become a world war. And

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Speaker 17: at the same exact time, Donald Trump is asking for

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Speaker 17: all of the European Union to come together and help them.

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Speaker 17: So just that alone makes us a world war. And

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Speaker 17: Donald Trump campaigned on no new wars. That was a

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Speaker 17: big part of a strategy. And I think that you

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Speaker 17: can believe what you want to about me, but JD.

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Speaker 17: Vance has been very quiet when it comes to this war.

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Speaker 17: And I think that's very telling because people are positioning

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Speaker 17: who's going to be the top dog next.

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Speaker 2: Well, that in itself is going to be hugely interesting,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. Because you've got Marco Rubio, who seems to

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Speaker 2: be far more on board with this conflict and seems

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Speaker 2: to be sharing a worldview with President Trump.

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Speaker 3: And then you've got JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance, who is many suspect anti war in this instance,

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Speaker 2: even and President Trump has been open about him and JD.

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Speaker 2: Vans have having different views on this conflict. How do

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Speaker 2: you see that race? Because for a long time JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance was going to be the successor, he was going

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Speaker 2: to be the next Republican candidate for president. Now there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of people pushing Marco Rubio and saying his

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Speaker 2: performance as Secretary of State has been so brilliant that

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Speaker 2: he's really the front runner now for that position.

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Speaker 17: Give the edge to Marco Rubio because he has Trump

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Speaker 17: behind him one hundred percent. But really the big test

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Speaker 17: will be the midterms coming up in November, and if

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Speaker 17: Donald Trump and the Conservatives get crushed in the midterms,

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Speaker 17: that's going to send a message that they're going to

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Speaker 17: have to totally recalibrate their plans.

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Speaker 6: Going into the next election. So that'll be the litmus test.

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Speaker 17: We'll see how many people support Donald Trump and support us.

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Speaker 17: Because Donald Trump won all the moderates, you know, he

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Speaker 17: dominated this past election because all the people that were

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Speaker 17: undecided voted for Trump.

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Speaker 6: And we'll see if that's the case in the upcoming midterms,

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Speaker 6: and if it's not.

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Speaker 17: Then it's going to be a blood bath to see

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Speaker 17: who is the nominee for the Conservatives in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: You one hundred percent right, Donald Trump got the independence

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Speaker 2: and a lot of people who don't pay attention to

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Speaker 2: US politics don't know that. Alex Stein, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your time tonight, and that's all the time

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Speaker 2: we have. I'll see you at eleven tomorrow night. Newsnight

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Speaker 2: is up next.