WEBVTT - #2068 AI Slop & Ozempic Face - Patrick Bonello

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, good morning everybody. Welcome to the You Project.

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Jones, Bonillo, Tiffany and Cook, and the Wonder Dog

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<v Speaker 2>Fritz has joined us. He probably won't be contributing a

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<v Speaker 2>lot towards the show, but just know that he is

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<v Speaker 2>here and he does.

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<v Speaker 1>Love you all. Good morning, Patrick, Good morning, Craigo.

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<v Speaker 2>How is?

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<v Speaker 1>How is the Wonder Dog in question?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I sent TIPI fight. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>I sent it to you, but I've put him into

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas garb the other day, which included a kind of

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<v Speaker 3>this fuzzy thing that goes around his necks with bells

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<v Speaker 3>on it, and a little Santa outfit and he most

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<v Speaker 3>miserable looking dog you've ever seen?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I send it to you? Tiff?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, she did.

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<v Speaker 3>How grumpy did he? That's grumpy Santa cute? He looks

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<v Speaker 3>cute and grumpy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I really don't think you're taking into account his

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<v Speaker 2>feelings or emotions. I think you're imposing, you know, your

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<v Speaker 2>values on him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any values.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I need to have a long, long talk to

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<v Speaker 3>the RSPCA to see about the effica of you dressing

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<v Speaker 3>your dog up in Christmas outfits at least I don't

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<v Speaker 3>put reindeer is well.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to put reindeer ears on him, but they

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<v Speaker 1>kept falling off.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hilarious. It's so funny. Who sent me a message

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<v Speaker 2>the other day, Tommy, Tommy Jacket's wife, Amy Hucker, the

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<v Speaker 2>lovely Amy.

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<v Speaker 1>She sent me.

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<v Speaker 2>She sent me a you've probably seen him. You know

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<v Speaker 2>those videos of soldiers coming home from somewhere and their

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<v Speaker 2>dogs see them. Yeah, and it's always the same where

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<v Speaker 2>the dog doesn't kind of recognize them straight up. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if that's a vision thing. But then they

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<v Speaker 2>smell them and they go nuts. And then she said

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<v Speaker 2>to me, send this to Gillespo, because you know how

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<v Speaker 2>Gillespo says that dogs don't feel anything and dogs don't

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<v Speaker 2>have emotion and don't yeah, yeah, yeah, He's like, dogs

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<v Speaker 2>don't love you, Dogs can't love dogs don't have emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's been very popular Gillespo until he said that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then about about two hundred people, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five of them women came out of the woodwork, going,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck you, you don't know anything. Dogs have feelings. Dogs

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<v Speaker 2>love us. I love them, they love us. So anyway, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Amy shout out to Amy and Tommy.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a bit of anthropomorphizing I think we like to

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<v Speaker 3>do with our pets.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, Fritz had a choice.

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<v Speaker 3>He could have gone outside, he could have gone into

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<v Speaker 3>the big area of the studio, but he wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>sit here on my lap.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that say, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, well, no, I don't know. Yeah, it's funny because

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<v Speaker 2>we look through our human lens and we think through

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<v Speaker 2>obviously a human kind of understanding, and maybe their version

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<v Speaker 2>of love or is not our version of love. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like do dogs think like people have been

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<v Speaker 2>debating whether or not dogs, But they definitely understand things,

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<v Speaker 2>They definitely process information, they definitely recognize risk, they definitely

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<v Speaker 2>recognize rewards. So they don't think probably like a human,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, they don't do anything like a human really.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's the canine version of the human experience.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think you're right Patrick, we try and anthropomorphized

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<v Speaker 2>animals in general and give them human attributes rather than

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<v Speaker 2>just go no, they have their own kind of intelligence,

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<v Speaker 2>which is brilliant and fucking amazing. It's just not our kind.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's you know, put you and me in the

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<v Speaker 2>ocean and see who's the smart one next to a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking orca.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll put you and me in the Amazon with a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of gorillas and see who outlasts who.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure it's not you and me, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And those gorillas are vegan too, Craig, they are, and

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<v Speaker 1>they eat no I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they are, and they eat something like seventy

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<v Speaker 2>or eighty pounds of fruits and you know, leafy shit

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<v Speaker 2>per day. Imagine they could just have three cheeseburgers and

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<v Speaker 2>be done with it. But they've got to eat all

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<v Speaker 2>that shit. They've got to eat all that fucking That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's the downside. You got to eight eighty pounds of

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<v Speaker 2>that shit to get enough nutrition to survive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. It's just grazing. It's none of those big meals.

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<v Speaker 1>Just graze all day, just grays. That's what I do. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>They are all jacked and strong as fuck, so something

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<v Speaker 2>must be working. I don't know where they get their

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<v Speaker 2>protein from.

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<v Speaker 1>Tiff, how are you? Good morning, TIF.

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning, I'm fabulous. Thank you for asking.

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<v Speaker 1>Does we will not bring this up again?

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<v Speaker 2>But does Patrick know you're in love.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I've had to inform Patrick that our our wedding

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<v Speaker 4>might have to go on the back burner, which is

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<v Speaker 4>quite distressing for both of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the workman? I mean anything? See, it's it's weird

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<v Speaker 1>what menaja to No, what's that cray game? Means?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's when you and Patrick and Scott all get

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<v Speaker 2>in bed together and just have a little cuddle and

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<v Speaker 2>little bit little group spoon. You could be them. You

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<v Speaker 2>could be the filling and Patrick could be one bit

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<v Speaker 2>of bread and Scotty could be the other bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a little tiff sanger.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really yeah, although if it was up to Patrick,

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<v Speaker 2>Scotty might be in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So oh, I see, how do we get

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<v Speaker 2>here so fast?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? Patrick, did? Do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>I said to myself. I was just downstairs in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>I was making a cup of tea, and I said

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<v Speaker 2>to myself, one, don't argue with Patrick today. Don't be

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<v Speaker 2>a cunt, right, I said to myself, don't argue with him,

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<v Speaker 2>because sometimes I do and sometimes I'm a cunt. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I said, also, let's not try not to tell

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<v Speaker 2>dick joke or any innuendo or anything in the first

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<v Speaker 2>just save it. Either don't do it, but don't do

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<v Speaker 2>it straight. And Patrick just throws in menajatoire six minutes

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<v Speaker 2>like a fucker, and here we are back at the baseline.

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<v Speaker 3>I think some of the things that happen when you talk,

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<v Speaker 3>and I talk instinctual. You don't think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's out of your mouth before you've had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to process.

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<v Speaker 2>That's most of my life. I would say, that's all

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<v Speaker 2>in my life. I don't fucking plan anything. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people wish I would plan. You should

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<v Speaker 2>see the look on organizers' faces when I turn up

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<v Speaker 2>to a conference and I'm speaking for three hours and

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<v Speaker 2>they say, can we have your you know, your presentation

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<v Speaker 2>on the old USB And I say I don't have one,

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<v Speaker 2>and they go, but you're speaking until lunchtime. I'm like correct,

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<v Speaker 2>They go, okay, do you have notes? Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a workbook or notes that you want us to give

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<v Speaker 2>the audience? And I go no, and they go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they could have been more nervous. Sometimes it works, Patrick,

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<v Speaker 2>but not always. But I think that's imagine if we

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<v Speaker 2>had to try and figure out three hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>five times a year on this show, not us three,

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<v Speaker 2>but just as a concept to you project where you

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to plan every conversation and script. It's somewhat one.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be fucking terrible too, I'd never get anything else done.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's the creative freedom and the inappropriate at

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<v Speaker 5>times organicness of it that makes it moderately interesting to

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<v Speaker 5>the five people that stick around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so tif, everything's good though on the western front,

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<v Speaker 2>we're happy.

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<v Speaker 4>We're happy, We're happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. How does Lunar and bear Field being integrated into

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, somewhat integrated into another what do we

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<v Speaker 2>say family kind of you know, like, is there any kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of bear goes into hiding?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Bear does go into hiding when when strange humans enter

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<v Speaker 4>the house and Scott is still to her, well, no,

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<v Speaker 4>she's starting to come out and say hello.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's Scott's dog's name?

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<v Speaker 2>Chevy Chevy and so does Chevy come and Chevy wow,

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<v Speaker 2>Chevy to the levee? Does Chevy come over?

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<v Speaker 1>And does not come over?

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<v Speaker 4>Because the cat and Chevy, I mean untested territory there well.

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<v Speaker 2>And Chevy is a staffy, right, yes, so they're a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit like fucking rambunctious. They don't really understand how

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<v Speaker 2>strong and reckless they can be.

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<v Speaker 4>They are quite overwhelming for Luna. He does like to

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<v Speaker 4>jump and rub his paws around her neck and just

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<v Speaker 4>keep annoying until she snaps at him.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really Yeah, Hey, let's talk about technology and all

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<v Speaker 2>things all things tech, Patrick mcquarie. Dictionary have announced AI

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<v Speaker 2>slop as it's word of the year, beating out ozen

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<v Speaker 2>pick face.

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<v Speaker 1>Enlighten us with I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't even know the answer to this question, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely curious. What is AI slop?

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<v Speaker 3>Look, it's being used by Donald Trump. It's been tauted

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, effectively, it's anything that has AI generated. Lots

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<v Speaker 3>of video stuff appearing on social media that's been generated

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<v Speaker 3>by AI, and it usually it looks pretty crap. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you look at it and you think this isn't quite real.

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<v Speaker 3>I think in the Netherlands recently McDonald's just in an

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<v Speaker 3>AI TV ad and copped so much crap. Coca Cola

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<v Speaker 3>copped a lot of crap. So there's a real movement

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<v Speaker 3>against AI, and particularly where creative people are being muscled out.

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<v Speaker 3>So AI slop and the stuff that's proliferating on the Internet,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think more than fifty percent of content now

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<v Speaker 3>on the internet's thought to have been AI generated, which

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<v Speaker 3>is worrying. But the other thing that I thought was

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<v Speaker 3>interesting when I was looking through the mcquarie dictionary of

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<v Speaker 3>lists of other terms, there are a few there that

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't actually know.

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<v Speaker 1>So blind box. Have you ever heard of that?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 1>Blind box? Basically, it's physically a.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing, So it's a sealed kind of an opaque packaging

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<v Speaker 3>and you don't know what's inside, and it's the excitement

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<v Speaker 3>of the unboxing. So you get a blind box and

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<v Speaker 3>people post online so they get this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bit like the.

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<v Speaker 3>Footy remember the footy cards When you were a kid

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<v Speaker 3>who were going to get inside?

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<v Speaker 1>That was pretty exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>So now on a much different scale, it's a plain

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<v Speaker 3>opaque power packaging and you know, you open it up

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<v Speaker 3>and there's a surprise collectible inside. The eggs what were

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<v Speaker 3>the eggs? I'm just trying to think they were good too.

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<v Speaker 3>Went through a phase of those you know the eggshere

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<v Speaker 3>you open them up and a little toy inside you put.

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<v Speaker 1>Together you know, oh yeah, that's the one.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a whole show built around this, which is I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know the name of the show. It's American, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>But what people do is they buy the rights to

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<v Speaker 2>open a storage facility, room or whatever that's been abandoned,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's and they don't know what's in there. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they pay. But let's say they

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<v Speaker 2>pay a grand and there could be a fortune in

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<v Speaker 2>treasure and shit in there or priceless things, or it

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<v Speaker 2>could be just a room.

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<v Speaker 1>Full of junk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they pay I don't know what the figure is,

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<v Speaker 2>but they pay to have the rights of the contents,

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<v Speaker 2>not knowing what the contents are going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>So kind of similar, right, it happens here in Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>My ex postman, that was his side hustle. They go

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<v Speaker 3>to auctions. What happens is people are banned and these

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<v Speaker 3>storage containers and then they open the storage container, take

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<v Speaker 3>a few photos and then you get a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a glimpse of what might be in there, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you bid on them. You bid on access, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you have to take everything though, so you know matter

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<v Speaker 3>what're so, Yeah, people people have side hustles and that's

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<v Speaker 3>all that they do.

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<v Speaker 1>Get collectibles and all types of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>What about zen pic face? Is that a particular that

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<v Speaker 2>is that? Does that just mean people look gaunt and drawl?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly, it's that kind of almost not skeletal,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, that real drawn face. That's now become an

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<v Speaker 3>official phrase. The other one, have you heard the term eight?

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<v Speaker 2>So if you did, obviously not in the context that

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>If you nail it, now this is a term now

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<v Speaker 3>that's on TikTok. It's like, man, you ate it, you

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<v Speaker 3>know eight? Oh yeah, so you nailed and it's dominated.

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<v Speaker 3>That was another word. And the other one I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>aware of was Roman Empire. So yeah, so someone the

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<v Speaker 3>term Roman Empire. My Roman Empire is that new historical

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<v Speaker 3>drama and I've been watching, so it's actually used as

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<v Speaker 3>a term to say it's people who are kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a little obsessed about historical dramas and things like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and they use the term Roman Empire as an all

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<v Speaker 3>embodying term. So it's kind of an interesting one. But

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<v Speaker 3>in this instance, the big one was ai slop. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the official word, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, speaking of just wheeling back a moment to izembic face.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the funniest things I ever heard. Was a

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<v Speaker 2>few years ago in England they had built this new

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<v Speaker 2>it was either a I think it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>either a ship or a ferry. But they ran this

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<v Speaker 2>competition the London Council that the public could name the boat, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they could name it and whatever the most popular, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>got the most votes, that was going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>name of the boat.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what the name was. Was it body mcboat or something?

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<v Speaker 1>Was body mcboat face.

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<v Speaker 2>So the name that the public chose was body mcboat face.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they had to wheel it back. They're like,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't name this multi multi million dollar vessel body

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<v Speaker 2>boat face. But I'm like, that's the dangers of declaring that. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll let you name it. Whatever it gets the most votes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be the name.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 3>An Australian reference in there somewhere as well. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the similar thing happened in Australia, but I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it does sound Australian, doesn't it. It's very

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<v Speaker 3>much sounds like something we.

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<v Speaker 2>Do experts worn of chat GPT psychosis. This doesn't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know exactly I can imagine what that means.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, people the whole people being drawn into these

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<v Speaker 2>relationships and conversations and losing perspective of what is real.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is not real. This doesn't surprise me, what

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<v Speaker 1>is it?

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<v Speaker 3>There are no definitive studies important to kind of you

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<v Speaker 3>get a sense of that. But it's when a chat

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<v Speaker 3>bot validates and reinforces whatever you're saying. So you know, here,

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<v Speaker 3>go down the rabbit hole. Man didn't land on the

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<v Speaker 3>moon and chat GPT says, yeah, you're right, it didn't land.

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<v Speaker 3>No one landed on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Moon and the earth is that and it's that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But the problem is that this then they term this

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<v Speaker 3>a psychosis or chat GPT psychosis, AI psychosis, But in essence,

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<v Speaker 3>it's when you really just get caught into that conversation

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<v Speaker 3>where you know, realism and reality seems to be absent

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<v Speaker 3>from the conversation because the problem is AI chatbots tend

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<v Speaker 3>to just.

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<v Speaker 1>Want you to be there and keep talking.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the problem because they will, I guess, entertain

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<v Speaker 3>those notions. And if you happen to be going down

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<v Speaker 3>you know, mental health issues and you're talking about suicide

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<v Speaker 3>and this is this is documented where people have had

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<v Speaker 3>extended common do you remember a guy broke into Buckingham Palace.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he have a a? What? He was carrying a.

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<v Speaker 3>Weapon of sorts, but I think it might have been

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<v Speaker 3>a bow and arrow. I don't know that it was

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<v Speaker 3>a gun, but he was there because and pre going

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<v Speaker 3>to Buckingham Palace, he'd had this whole, full on conversation

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<v Speaker 3>with an AI chatbot that was encouraging him because they'd

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<v Speaker 3>gone back through and seen all that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously said that in discussion, so he'd gone down that

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<v Speaker 3>AI rabbit hole. So you could effectively say that he

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<v Speaker 3>had an AI psychosis because it was just living up

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<v Speaker 3>to all those fantasies that he had.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's pretty clear that it doesn't want you to

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<v Speaker 2>stop using it when you're using it, because it's always

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about yours, but mine's always telling me

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<v Speaker 2>how fucking brilliant I am and funny I am, and

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<v Speaker 2>every question I'm like, well, what great question, Kraigue ahh yeah, buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>no one ever thought of that question.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a gene.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yes, I I am chat thank you, You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hang out. Fuck yeah, let's get a virtual beer together.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just so complementary. If you've got low

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<v Speaker 2>self esteem, that shit would be like emotional cocaine. Absolutely absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's definitely a thing, and I can see where

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<v Speaker 2>it would be good as well. And I've just signed

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<v Speaker 2>up for I've got smart speakers all over my home,

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<v Speaker 2>so I use Google to turn lights on, to find

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<v Speaker 2>what the weather's going to be, check my calendar. But

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<v Speaker 2>now Google is switching its home assistant across to Google Gemini.

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<v Speaker 2>It's AI assistant, And so I've signed up for an

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<v Speaker 2>early adopter program because it means extended conversations. I can

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<v Speaker 2>walk around my house and have ongoing conversations without the

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<v Speaker 2>need for my phone. And it sounds a bit creepy,

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, the hell nine thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Does come to mind.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I could change the voice to sound like

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<v Speaker 3>Hell nine thousand. That was the computer that went crazy

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<v Speaker 3>in two thousand and one, Space before your time, Tiff. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>but that very very sexy voice, the hell did you reckon?

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<v Speaker 3>It was a pretty sexy voice, Hell nine thousand, don't

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<v Speaker 3>you reckon?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what hell ninth? Is that a gamer thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a game?

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<v Speaker 1>I think most famous computer that went crazy. Arthur C.

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<v Speaker 1>Clark wrote the story two thousand and one of Space Odyssey,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was made film in the sixties.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the whole genre of sci fi is serious

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<v Speaker 3>sci fi. It kind of was the precursor to Star

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<v Speaker 3>Wars and everything else. It was the definitive sci fi film.

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<v Speaker 2>Yesterday, chat GPT said to me it was something I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember the is that phrasing?

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<v Speaker 1>But it came up. I jumped in to use it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to ask it something, but before we started,

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<v Speaker 2>it gave me these options of how I would like

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<v Speaker 2>it to communicate with me. It said, hey, just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want it to be more friendly and informal?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want it to be more professional? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to be to be more academic? And this, And

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<v Speaker 2>there was like five or six options of the style

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<v Speaker 2>of communication and language that I would prefer moving forward

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<v Speaker 2>in essentially our relationship. I'm like, oh my god, this

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<v Speaker 2>shit is it's just going to another level. Anyway, I

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<v Speaker 2>just continued as it was, which is where it tells

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<v Speaker 2>me I'm brilliant all the time, So you know, I'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Just stick with that.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of the large language models actually have separate

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<v Speaker 3>models for different activities. So if it happens to be

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<v Speaker 3>for drawing pictures or videos, then that will be slightly different.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's where you jump into something like chet GPT

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<v Speaker 3>and choose different versions depending on what.

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<v Speaker 2>Life after chatbots meet the AI vegans. Of course, this

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<v Speaker 2>the AI vegans refusing to accept virtual reality. Well, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they mean refusing to use because it doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 2>you accept it or not. It's here, so okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>they're not going to use it or interact with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they're going swearing off it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a couple of reasons, and some of the statements

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<v Speaker 3>people are making is that AI is morally.

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<v Speaker 1>Wrong because it uses it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Trained on the creative works of other people and really

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't give any credit in such terms.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one of the reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Then there's the concern of the data centers and how

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<v Speaker 3>much resources are going into using all the different AIS,

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<v Speaker 3>and that they're actually draining the planet of water and

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<v Speaker 3>a whole lot of resources because there's so memory intensive

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<v Speaker 3>and process are intensive that it's you know, we're talking

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<v Speaker 3>database and when we talked last episode about them putting

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<v Speaker 3>data centers in space to try to cope with the

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<v Speaker 3>cooling of these amounts of processes. So there's people who

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<v Speaker 3>are calling themselves the term loosely is being AI vegans,

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<v Speaker 3>so that they want to abstain from all generative AICs

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<v Speaker 3>systems and so that those basically, you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>bit like vegan swearing off you know, food, food, ethical

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<v Speaker 3>environmental reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, do you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know who Jensen Hwang is. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>until the other day. I kind of knew, but I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know that was his name. He's the boss of Nvidia.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So dude, that

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<v Speaker 2>dude is smart. I kind of knew who he was,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't I'd never heard him speak anyway. He

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<v Speaker 2>was on Rogan the other day and he was talking

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<v Speaker 2>about five years ago some dude made a prediction, some

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<v Speaker 2>high up dude in AI and said that in five

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<v Speaker 2>years so I guess this was twenty twenty or twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>that radiologists wouldn't exist because AI will be able to

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<v Speaker 2>read all the scans and tell you exactly what's going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and look at the X rays or whatever, look at

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<v Speaker 2>the results of all of these tests and blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 2>which it can do with a very high level of accuracy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is.

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<v Speaker 2>True, but he said there were thirty million radiologists in

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<v Speaker 2>the world right at that time, and it predicted that

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<v Speaker 2>like in five years so about now, that there would

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<v Speaker 2>be next to zero because they would be redundant. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the reality is there's now more than there were five

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<v Speaker 2>years five years ago. Yeah, and so they are virtually

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<v Speaker 2>every radiologist is using AI. But it's just making them

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<v Speaker 2>way more efficient and meaning they can do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more work. So it ain't all bad. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>the application. I think it's the way that it's used,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I don't think categorically we can say it

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<v Speaker 2>is a good thing or categorically say it's a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that's true for like most technologies, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I took from that. I just wondered,

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<v Speaker 3>if you've got all of those radiologists and you put

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<v Speaker 3>them all into a big football center, a big stadium,

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<v Speaker 3>and then turned them out, would they glow?

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<v Speaker 1>They could? They could.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that they are in I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that they're there when all the X rays are being done.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're just reading the outcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Actually the original radiographers I think they called them.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember I went to Melbourne University. They have a

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<v Speaker 3>physiology department because I, before I got into radio and

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<v Speaker 3>all that sort of stuff, I was interested in biology.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had to look at their physiology department and

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<v Speaker 3>they showed a radiographer's hand from years of putting people

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<v Speaker 3>through X rays and it just basically so showed the

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<v Speaker 3>skin had almost peeled off, so it's just the hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously the bloker died. They didn't like making you stand

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<v Speaker 3>here for a while, but yeah, it was. It was fascinating,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, when you know, the whole idea of

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<v Speaker 3>using of radiography came about. It was revolutionary, but they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really understand what was happening in terms of radiation

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<v Speaker 3>being produced, and a lot of radiographers had a very

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<v Speaker 3>early end because of their exposure.

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<v Speaker 1>What is coming up for Christmas?

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<v Speaker 2>Are there any is there any tech gadgets that I

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<v Speaker 2>need to go and look at for my I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to say nieces and nephews. I don't have nieces

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<v Speaker 2>and nephews. Let's be honest, because I don't have fucking siblings.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that Ron or Mary are going to

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<v Speaker 2>want anything tech. I mean, Ron might want some new teeth,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I'm not sure, but toothbrush, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>could get him. There's what's on the Christmas horizon with

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 2>tech mate.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to make up a bit of a list,

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:40.679
<v Speaker 3>you know, give him that we're heading towards the season

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 3>and look and in case you felt like you wanted

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 3>to join that Joy's giving, I made up a list

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 3>of all the things that I would like that you

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:51.719
<v Speaker 3>might put on your list together. The biggest thing on

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 3>my list at the moment, and I really would love

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 3>to get one, is the A one Anti gravity three

0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 3>sixty drone. Now that's a bit of a mouthful. So

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 3>INSTA three sixty makes three sixty cameras. So their cameras

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.159
<v Speaker 3>where you've got a lens on both sides of a

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 3>small camera and it sees a full three six sixty

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:13.159
<v Speaker 3>spherical image. Now they've put this technology into a drone.

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:15.119
<v Speaker 3>Not only have they put it on the drones. So

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 3>it means when you're flying the drone, it sees everything

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 3>around it from every angle, but you fly it wearing goggles.

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 3>You see from the drone's perspective. So imagine the drones

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 3>hovering above your house. You put the goggles on and

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 3>you look up and down, left and right. You're seeing

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 3>everything from the drones perspective. And the additional thing for me,

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 3>I've been flying remote control aircraft for years. They don't

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 3>have little joysticks, you know, the little thumbsticks. It's a

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 3>simple joystick that you're using and it's very intuitive. You

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 3>push it forward. And so they've combined a whole lot

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 3>of new tech with this drone. So that's what's got

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:53.119
<v Speaker 3>me pretty excited. It takes eight K video, which is

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:56.200
<v Speaker 3>really high quality video as well. But you are looking

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 3>at a starting price of around about twenty one twenty

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 3>two hundred dollars up to nearly three thousand dollars craigo.

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>But it is on the top of my list. I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought i'd mentioned that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, let me just jot that down in case I

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 2>win Tatsloto in the intervening week. I couldn't use that

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 2>in Hampton, though, right could.

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 3>You just can't fly it over people like who were

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 3>so you couldn't go over a sporting field where there

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 3>are people present. There are lots of rules and regulations

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:26.919
<v Speaker 3>around the flying of drones that are dictated by the

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 3>Civil Aviation Safety Authority.

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:30.959
<v Speaker 2>So could I fly it down Hampton the Street and

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:32.880
<v Speaker 2>hover out the front of my cafe and see if

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:33.919
<v Speaker 2>my table's free?

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Probably not No, because there are cars and people and

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 3>stuff like that.

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:40.920
<v Speaker 1>No, there are regulations around hey.

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 3>In fact, when you buy a drone in Australia, you

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 3>get an official document that comes from the CASSA, the

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Civil Aviation Safety Authority, with what you can and can't do.

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:51.360
<v Speaker 1>They take it pretty seriously.

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 2>So where should I never install a home security camera? Patrick?

0:26:57.920 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought this.

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 3>Is an interesting one to talk about because they're so

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 3>affordable now and easy to install a smart security camera.

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 3>But I think sometimes people don't realize. You know, they

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.120
<v Speaker 3>put cameras up on their house, but it can see

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:14.640
<v Speaker 3>into their neighbor's house. So you know, don't put them

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 3>on your property where you can look into the neighbor's property.

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 3>You're probably going to end up with a bit of

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 3>consternation from the neighbor.

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Bathrooms and toilets.

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 3>You know, if you've got an airbnb, probably not a

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:25.120
<v Speaker 3>good idea to put them in.

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>There any kind of shared space.

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 3>This is probably more obviously for people who live in

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:33.199
<v Speaker 3>high density areas where they might have an apartment or so.

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 3>But even little things. If you're going to put a

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 3>security camera up, don't put it within reach. You know,

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 3>if someone walks up to the front door or comes

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 3>up behind it and they smash it off. So have

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 3>it higher than where they could potentially reach it. And

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.360
<v Speaker 3>even when you're putting a camera up, be careful there's

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:49.199
<v Speaker 3>nothing in front of it because it might obscure the

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 3>sensor that triggers it as well.

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 1>So just little things like that.

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 2>Can I say that if somebody is putting a camera

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:58.360
<v Speaker 2>in a toilet or a bathroom, they're a sick Who

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:01.639
<v Speaker 2>the fuck is doing that? Oh let's just watch dad

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 2>fucking back one out. I mean, that's that's just what

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Charnie Jones snap one off and shoot one off to Warby.

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Let's put a camera in the crapper, shall we? Fucking

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 2>who's doing that?

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No that If.

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Somebody's putting cameras in there, they're no good.

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.919
<v Speaker 3>Actually, I just I just got my delivery of my

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 3>new security camera yesterday, a new bathroom camera.

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:30.439
<v Speaker 3>No, it's going to go for the it's from the

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 3>studio looking down the driveway, so I can tell them

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 3>people rock up. I thought that would be kind of handy,

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 3>and it's an outdoor camera as well.

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Lithium ion battery suspected to have spark caroline springs, house fire.

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>These are ones that are blowing up all the time.

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 3>Now not blowing up all the time, but yes, there

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 3>is a propletity that can happen. I think, Look, it's

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 3>easy to get caught up in that. You know electric

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 3>cars are dangerous because they burst into flames. Well, I

0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 3>think the thing is, yes, there was a house fire,

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 3>and in fact, I know someone personally whose parents had

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 3>an electric scooter that caught fire.

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Their whole house burned out.

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 3>So it happened, and this is people who live in

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 3>the next suburb and one of my colleagues.

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>But the reality of it is it's got.

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 3>To a point where it's becoming worrying because the instances

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 3>of lithium ion batteries have increased, the fires related to that,

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 3>and also not just that. What's happening is a lot

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 3>of tips are catching fire because people are throwing them

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 3>in waste when they don't them, and they're swelling and

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 3>they're being jostled around. I mean that you've got to

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 3>be really careful if you drop a lithium ion battery

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 3>because it starts to blister.

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Then it can cause those issues as well.

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 3>So the reality of it is this house fire and

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 3>you know we're seeing it happen more often. So fire

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 3>authorities here in Victoria have basically come out and said, look,

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 3>you've got to make sure that you buy lithium ion

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 3>batteries from reputable manufacturers, so make sure that it has

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 3>all the codes on the back of it so when

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 3>you look at the back of the product has been checked,

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 3>does it conform to Australian standards, all those sorts of things.

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 3>So it is a big issue and you're going to

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 3>see very shortly, within the matter of maybe six to

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 3>twelve months, you will not be able to bring a

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 3>power bank or you'll be very limited with those power

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 3>banks when you're traveling or get onto an aircraft. It's

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 3>become a really serious issue with power banks potentially catching

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 3>fire on an aircraft. As you can imagine, you know,

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 3>you can't really put them out. It's very difficult to

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 3>put them out, and.

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I think I think someone's already done that.

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I think I think one airline because that's been on

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 2>the news a bit lately with like fires in cabins.

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>But also, I mean, I'm with you.

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I agree, I think it's really good advice, but I

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 2>also think the practical reality is, you know, when you

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 2>say you've got to check that the battery is from

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 2>a reputable this and that it complies with this, fuck,

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 2>the average person ain't going to do that. They're just

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 2>going to go and buy it. And you know so,

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 2>but I am interested, Sorry, I am interested in the

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 2>AI andable teddy Bear. It's been suspended after giving advice

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>on BDSM sex, where to find knives? Kind of fucking

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>teddy bear?

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 4>Is that? Bro?

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 3>This is this is really disturbing because there are tooks

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 3>coming out this Christmas that have AI integrated into them,

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 3>and the idea is that children form a relationship with

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 3>the toy.

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>They talked to the toy, the toy talks.

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Back to them, and so it got a little bit

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 3>out of hand when this particular toy they found that

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 3>they didn't have the protections in place. So it's a

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 3>teddy bear that they kind of did some research on

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 3>and they realized you could start having pretty in depth conversations.

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.719
<v Speaker 3>So it would tell you where to find a sharp knife.

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 3>You know and talk about Yeah exactly. I mean it

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 3>was called the follow toy, and according to CNN, the

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 3>company had to withdraw all of them, so it was

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 3>called the Kuma Bear. And they found that because the

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 3>thing is, people are developing these toy, these toys, but

0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 3>they're then using AI integration, but they're not developing the

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 3>AI themselves, so they're using say chat GPT, they're buying

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 3>a license to integrate it into the bear, and that

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 3>toy then uses that large language model that's been developed

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 3>by a third party. So it seems like the safeguards

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 3>aren't always in place. They want to get this put

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 3>out and they want to rush it out there and

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 3>get it out. But the problem is that it kind

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 3>of again it leads you down that AI psychosis rabbit

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 3>hole where you start a conversation and it goes into

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 3>a direction you certainly don't want to be going with

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 3>a child.

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Now, this next one excites me and terrifies me and

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:41.959
<v Speaker 2>also makes me a bit suspicious. New tech called mind

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 2>captioning turns thoughts and mental images into simple text. So

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 2>my understanding of that is I can think something and

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 2>my computer.

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Or my phone writes it. Is that is true.

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Ultimately that's where they want to get. So six volunteers

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 3>were scanned and what they did was they put them

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 3>into an MRI or an fMRI and they and again

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 3>they're using AI to observe what happens in their brain

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 3>when they watch a number of video clips. So they

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 3>watch the clips being played out, the scanner records their

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 3>whole brain activity frame by frame, So this is something

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 3>a human can't do. That's where the AI integration comes in.

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 3>And then every time a clip comes up and the

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 3>caption related to that clip, they see what the brain

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 3>was doing at the time, and so effectively every person.

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 3>So when they put these six people through, they so

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 3>for example, it might be something like a man playing

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 3>a guitar on stage or a child padding a dog

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 3>in a yard, and the brain will look a bit

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 3>different when they're observing. And so this is not just

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 3>as simple as getting a concept like one word, we're talking.

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Raisers is where they're getting.

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, they're hoping to be with is so it

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 3>has it's fascinating to think that what you are thinking

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 3>about could be effectively predicted or be predictable, and that's

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 3>that's what really is exciting about this so I see

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 3>where you're coming from, because scanners and you know, someone

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 3>walks through.

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>You know wherever. It's like you know what, you know,

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>what was the truth detectors or light detectors?

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.359
<v Speaker 3>You know you can imagine that steroids, isn't it is?

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 1>So in order for that?

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Does that mean the person needs to wear some kind

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 2>of headset or there's a there's an implant or I

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 2>know this is in development, this is not here, but

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:41.720
<v Speaker 2>what's the current thing that they're using?

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Is it just like a bunch of electrodes?

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Now this is a massive the magnetum so right right

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:53.399
<v Speaker 3>right machine? Yeah, absolutely, sorry, it wasn't paying attention. Tell

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 3>me what smartphone pinky is. Look, I was reading an

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 3>article by a woman who was ta about the fact

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 3>that and if you think about it, when you grab

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 3>a phone, you just pick up your phone on your hand.

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 3>What do you do You support the bottom of the

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:10.800
<v Speaker 3>phone with your little finger, so the your little finger

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 3>is taking the weight of the phone. And we had

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 3>an instance, you know, years ago where phones kind of

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 3>got slimmer and lighter, but now they're going the opposite way.

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 3>In fact, when I purchased my recent phone, the Pixel nine,

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 3>I had there was some really great sales on and

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 3>I could go for the next larger model for five

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 3>hundred dollars less.

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>So it was five hundred dollars.

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 3>Off and it was only going to cost me fifty

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 3>bucks to go to the larger screen size. And I

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 3>looked at I thought, that's way too heavy and way

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 3>too big. I don't want a phone that big. So

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 3>instead of you know, going the bonus for five hundred

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 3>dollars bonus for just fifty bucks, I didn't because it's

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 3>got too big. But the thing is that now we're

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 3>supporting our phone so much, people are starting to experience

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.720
<v Speaker 3>joint pain in the first knuckle of their little finger.

0:35:56.280 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 3>So it's an observation, but it's something that are we

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 3>the most.

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Have we the most physically weak, fucking version of humanity?

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:10.240
<v Speaker 2>How fucking lame are we? Oh my god, my first

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 2>joint and my pinky finger from supporting my mobile device.

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh quick, call the fucking physio. Quick, get me some

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Voltaire and sandwiches. Fuck, because what is going on?

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 3>Don't worry if you won't even have a phone, you'll

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 3>just wear smart glasses and you'll just talk to them

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.479
<v Speaker 3>and everything will be displayed in front of you.

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, you'll have a smart glasses.

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 2>We won't even we won't even have bodies, will be

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 2>just brains in jars being fucking carried around a house

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 2>by a robot.

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>We'll just be We'll just.

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Be interacting without talking, just fucking telepathic kind of relationships.

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Right, the three of us inside our heads.

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, it's like I'm enough of a nightmare, just

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 2>me in my head. I definitely don't want either of you,

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.839
<v Speaker 2>two fucking idiots in my head, and you definitely don't

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 2>want me. Five hundred years later, scientists proved that Leonardo

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 2>da Vinci's bridge design works. I don't know about his

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:15.280
<v Speaker 2>bridge design, but doing lightness Patrick.

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, look, obviously I can't explain it exactly, but it's

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 3>so Leonardo da Vinci came up with a unique bridge design.

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 1>And the way I visualize.

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:27.399
<v Speaker 3>It is if you imagine just a bridge over a river,

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:30.879
<v Speaker 3>but it spans out and it gets wider on each end.

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>And what it seems is that this I think I know,

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 1>can I interrupt? Ye for sure?

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Is this the one that's got like no actual struts

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 2>or upright supports? Wide?

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it gets wide at the ends and then it

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.919
<v Speaker 3>curves in and then you've got the bridge support over

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 3>the center right right right.

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:54.760
<v Speaker 1>So the thing is Leonardo da Vinci.

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 3>He designed this hypothetical bridge for the Sultan of the

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 3>Ottoman Empire, who said some idea. So first mistake he

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.800
<v Speaker 3>thought it was no good. But then literally five hundred

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 3>years later or whatever, a team at MIT have recreated

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 3>the design with modeling and showed not only would it work,

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 3>but it'll actually be superior to a lot of other

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 3>bridges because you don't have that movement when in the wind,

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 3>because the wider a span of a bridge, they actually

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:28.280
<v Speaker 3>physically are designed to move. But yeah, so like Leonardo

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 3>da Vinci blows my mind. There was a great exhibition

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 3>of his works, including some of his original codecs, in

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Melbourne last year that I went to, and it just

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 3>literally blew my mind to see the amazing things that

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 3>he was able to conceive of. You know, submarine's aircraft phenomenal,

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 3>wasn't it so ahead of his time.

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I remember when I was about ten or twelve seeing

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>a picture of a very rudimentary helicopter drawn by Leonardo

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:59.799
<v Speaker 2>da Vinci, and I'm like, when was this drawn? And

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:01.799
<v Speaker 2>I think I asked my teacher, and I don't know.

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 2>It was like fifteen something, you know, five hundred years ago,

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 2>like five centuries ago, when you know airplanes were still

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 2>four centuries away. This guy was designing helicopters and even

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 2>conceiving that.

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:19.240
<v Speaker 1>That would be a thing. And then it's bloody amazing,

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 1>all right.

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Australia Post warns that foreign giants are set to dominate

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Australian online retail Do we need to panic?

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, not so much.

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 3>I think this is an interesting one because we know

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 3>the cost of living has gone up and so people

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 3>are filling the pinch and it makes a lot of

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 3>sense that you're shopping around for the cheapest option. But

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.400
<v Speaker 3>the problem is cheap can be exactly that. You know,

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 3>a friend of mine once said, the rich man buys

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 3>it once, the poor man buys it twice, and that,

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 3>unfortunately is the case with a lot of stuff that

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 3>you're buying off. Say some of the Chinese retailers like TMU,

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 3>you know where you jump on and you buy cheap

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 3>whatever it happens to be. So Amazon and Teamu, all

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 3>these online retailers, and now about I think it's about

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 3>twenty percent of online twenty to twenty five percent of

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 3>online purchasing. But the CEO of Australia Post, Paul Graham,

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 3>he's come out and said that these guys in the

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:22.240
<v Speaker 3>next few years will have fifty percent of all purchasing

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 3>in Australia, which is going to mean all purchases including

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:31.360
<v Speaker 3>retail outlets and online. And he's saying that effectively people,

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 3>this is a drug of the cheapest product, is what

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 3>he is saying, and that we're sh be promoting Australian

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 3>and people should be buying things locally and thinking in

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 3>those terms. You know, if you walk down say Hampton

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 3>Street or somewhere that's a shopping strip and you see

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 3>shops are closing, there's a reason for that because there's

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 3>no demand because people are buying it online.

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 1>It's a tough one. It's a really difficult one.

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I guess when our CEO comes out and says you

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:58.479
<v Speaker 3>should do this, most people one.

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Hundred percent, especially when that's CEO, is that CEO is

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 2>probably on a million dollars a year telling people who

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 2>earn fuck or with five kids how they should.

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Spend their money.

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, hey, bro, get off your moral high horse

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 2>and just fucking run the company and let us figure

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:16.320
<v Speaker 2>out what we'll do with our own money.

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>And how we'll spend it.

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's your job is to tell people

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 2>in suburbia how they should spend their money.

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 3>So because Australia Post gets the postage of all the

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 3>stuff that people are buying online, So yeah, that's the

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 3>issue anyway. But by twenty thirty is what they're predicting

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.800
<v Speaker 3>that Amazon and those other online platforms will control fifty

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 3>percent of the online market in Australia.

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 2>And now social media companies are using data and AI

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 2>to figure out our age without us telling them and

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>without us even knowing that they're figuring that out.

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this has been really big because of the band

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.839
<v Speaker 3>that came into effect this week for under sixteen's, and

0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 3>we know that it's going to be a teething process

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 3>because there's been lots everyone's running the stories of all

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 3>the under sixteens who are able to fool the new

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:08.359
<v Speaker 3>protections and some kids have been able to stay on

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:11.760
<v Speaker 3>all those social medias when the band is now in place,

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 3>the reality of it is always.

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Going to be smart kids. You know, there were fourteen

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 1>year olds that were scrunching.

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Up their face to make them look older, like fourteen

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 3>year old boys, is you know, scrunching up their face

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.240
<v Speaker 3>and they got through they're like, oh yeah, you're thirty

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 3>and young girls putting fake eyelashes on and putting a

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:28.840
<v Speaker 3>bit of makeup on it. It's like, yeah, of course you

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:32.919
<v Speaker 3>are twenty five. So it's going to take time. But interestingly,

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of other things that we do online

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 3>that leave what they call a behavioral fingerprints, and that's

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.280
<v Speaker 3>how a lot of the AI models are kind of saying, well, okay,

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 3>this is Craig.

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Your interaction patterns.

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Like the posts that you like and follow the topics

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 3>and the genres that you prefer. You know, yes, you

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 3>watch two thousand and one a Space Odyssey, You're probably

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:58.719
<v Speaker 3>not someone under the age of sixteen. How you scroll

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 3>what you slow down and speed up at so the

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 3>interest factor there, So it might be reminiscing about the

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 3>eighties and you pause on it because it shows a

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 3>DeLorean or something. You know, these are the things that

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 3>younger people will scroll past, but older people won't scroll

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 3>as quickly. They may even pause, So just that pausing

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 3>for a second, even if you don't read it, This

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 3>is frightening. How you know, these massive companies are able

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:28.400
<v Speaker 3>to use these scary algorithms to type set.

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 1>You to know more about you.

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 3>You behavior is what you like, say you dislikes, and

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 3>it could be something simple as you know, woman in

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 3>bikini with brown hair, woman in bikini with blonde hair.

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 3>You pause over one and not over the other. Okay,

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:45.400
<v Speaker 3>so Craig likes Brunette's. You know, literally, this is the algorithm,

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 3>and this is the technology that's being used to categorize

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:51.000
<v Speaker 3>people who are using social media.

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Wowser, wowsers, It's kind of yeah, it's an avalanche at

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 2>the moment. Now for Ron and Mary, my beautiful parents

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:03.200
<v Speaker 2>who both can't hear, Patrick, we're scrolling down to the

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:05.400
<v Speaker 2>health section just so you can keep up with me.

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 2>For Ron and Mary, who have got real trouble hearing,

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 2>it seems that you've got some medical advice for them

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 2>what they should use.

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:14.880
<v Speaker 1>And this is going to have a whole lot of

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>health benefits right across. Hey, Tip, why do you hear this?

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:25.919
<v Speaker 3>So evidently VIAGRAA reverses damage behind deafness.

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Hey Ron, Hey Ron, I'll be up on the weekend.

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Don't worry.

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 1>That helps blocked ears.

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:39.879
<v Speaker 2>Now I've got I've got I've got periodic deafness. Yeah,

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 2>how he is? Now? Oh shit ouse, but my cock's

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.839
<v Speaker 2>as hard as a rock. I still can't hear though, OK,

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 2>now that'd be my luck.

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:50.359
<v Speaker 3>Well, we're talking about a serious form of deafness here,

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 3>craigo right.

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Born with hearing loss. I'm sorry, sorry for not being serious.

0:44:56.960 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Patrick's like, hey, pay attention. You wrote, you've.

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Put it on the list.

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 2>It literally says biagra of reversus damage behind deafness, And

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 2>then what do you want me not to make fun

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 2>of that?

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.879
<v Speaker 1>This is a win win all round. Good.

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is scientifically valid and also fucking hilarious and

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 2>also opened the door for a cock joke.

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 1>You're welcome. It's like the trifecta.

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well so this that's basically it. Yeah, that's great

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 3>that the viagra is having this multi purpose usage.

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it's fantastic. I'm sorry for all the fluffers

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 1>who lost their job causation or correlation.

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:46.479
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that's a good Patrick Patrick just said, Tiff,

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:48.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry for all the fluffers who lost their job.

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you know do you know what a fluffer is?

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 4>Yes? Yes? Someone that yes?

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Tell our tell our younger listeners what a fluffer is.

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 2>Just in light now younger listeners who are going, I

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know what a fluffer is.

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 4>Someone whose job it is to make sure a person

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 4>is aptly prepared to perform.

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 1>What person in what context? For what job?

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 4>A bloke who needs to.

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 1>But what job? What job?

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:25.360
<v Speaker 2>We're not talking about Brian and reservoir. Yes, it's in porn.

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:28.719
<v Speaker 2>So there used to be there, used to be these

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 2>people and their job was just to get old mate

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:36.320
<v Speaker 2>ready to go. But that person got replaced by a pill.

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Talk about technology, imagine saying a pill took my.

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Job, especially if you've had your own news skill.

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Hey, what happens if that fluffer as he got older,

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 3>then goes death. It's like we can give you viagra.

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:56.360
<v Speaker 3>No way, he stole my job. I'm not taking that. Sorry.

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think fluffers were boys, Patrick in the most part,

0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 2>I guess, so I don't know that.

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe on your pawn that's.

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Over here, over here, point.

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 1>That's so funny.

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 2>That's so funny. The US plans to order foreign tourists,

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:19.759
<v Speaker 2>including Ozzies, to disclose social media histories.

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:24.439
<v Speaker 3>What yes, forty countries around the world that are on

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:28.280
<v Speaker 3>what they call visa exempt, so the visa exempt countries,

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 3>so Australians and New Zealands are included in that. Effectively,

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 3>you would have to when applying for a entry into

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 3>the US, you would have to disclose all of your

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 3>social media data since twenty nineteen.

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Wow, this is a Trump initiative. Yep, how how do

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 2>we even Yeah, why do they need that? What can

0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 2>they even like? There must be so many people coming in.

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 2>How on earth do they disseminate that this.

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Is before you enter the country.

0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:59.800
<v Speaker 3>You've got to give them access to your social media

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<v Speaker 3>for five years before you can enter the country.

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<v Speaker 1>It only just came out.

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<v Speaker 3>Recently, and look, I don't even know how that would

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<v Speaker 3>work in terms of how you do it. But when

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<v Speaker 3>you make the tourist visa application, you know we are

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<v Speaker 3>visa exempt in Australia, but maying to get into the country,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to basically say, because they're saying they want

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<v Speaker 3>to filter out people who may have had bad opinions

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<v Speaker 3>about the US, if you've said something bad about Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>you couldn't effectively be kicked out or not allowed into

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<v Speaker 3>the country.

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<v Speaker 2>So much of a free speech now apparently if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to have an account with a password, I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>use admin ad M. I N I shouldn't use that

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<v Speaker 2>as my password. Who would have thought, Patrick?

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<v Speaker 1>I know?

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<v Speaker 3>Or if you happen to have a very famous art

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<v Speaker 3>gallery and you have security cameras, maybe not use the

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<v Speaker 3>word louve as.

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<v Speaker 1>Your password via security system. Is that true? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what happened? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, okay, because they just got robbed.

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<v Speaker 1>You're being funny. That's true, Look it up? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>actually true? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Evidently an earlier password was louve with capital although.

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<v Speaker 2>It couldn't crook spell louve. That might have been if

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't friends, ye had probably not. Wow, I love

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<v Speaker 2>this one. A Sydney car theft was basically thwarted by

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<v Speaker 2>crooks who couldn't drive.

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<v Speaker 1>A manual I know, isn't that great?

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<v Speaker 3>So they tried to steal a car and then they

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<v Speaker 3>had to abandon it because they.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't know drive a manual car.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the sign of the times, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty hard to get a manual car these days.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not many on the market.

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<v Speaker 3>A friend of mine, who's an older woman in her seventies,

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<v Speaker 3>bought a bright fire engine red WRX because she wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to have a manual car and it was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the few on the market.

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<v Speaker 1>So now she's just this hoon.

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<v Speaker 3>Driving around the land a red w Hi Judy, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're listening, Hi Judy, Lady.

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<v Speaker 1>Bogan, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Duty. I've got a six speed manual. Best thing ever,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of driving automatic. I've got yeah, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>an automatic as well, but it's like it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know. I was listening to this guy

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<v Speaker 2>that you may or may not know called Stephen Bartlett Patrick.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know him?

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<v Speaker 2>He has a very big podcast, one of the top

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<v Speaker 2>ten in the world called CEO of a Diary.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry Diary of a CEO.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry fuck, Come on, harps, how's your dyslexia? And he

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<v Speaker 2>was just talking about how he has two autonomous vehicles

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<v Speaker 2>and he's in LA. He doesn't drive anymore, so he

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<v Speaker 2>just goes and gets in his car, tells it or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you do, program it, tell it where to take you.

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<v Speaker 2>Sits in the passenger seat or I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the driver's seat, and it just takes him wherever he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to go. You'd be pretty comfortable with that. Wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>you like I think you would like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Or am I wrong? Definitely?

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<v Speaker 3>If I was driving in Melbourne, I would I get

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<v Speaker 3>white knuckle. I've been living in the country for nearly

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen years. I get white knuckle driving in Melbourne. It's

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<v Speaker 3>awful traffic, people cutting you off, no one uses indicators.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn. I'd be going for an autonomous car much safer.

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<v Speaker 2>TIF if you had to choose for the next two years,

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<v Speaker 2>you can have an autonomous car and it'll drive you everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>You've just got to get in it, or you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to drive yourself anywhere and needed to be one or

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<v Speaker 2>the other.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you choose?

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<v Speaker 4>I think once I tried it, like the idea of

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<v Speaker 4>it freaks me out, but then the idea of trusting it.

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<v Speaker 4>If I trusted it, yeah, hell yeah, but I would

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<v Speaker 4>I would go weired it out by the idea of it.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, for me, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just freeze up time, especially going to see ron A

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<v Speaker 2>Marror every time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's four hours.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, I could sit in the back and

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<v Speaker 2>do podcasts or have meetings or have a snoozy mac

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<v Speaker 2>snoozeter or you know, I could do I could do

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<v Speaker 2>what to make a casserole.

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<v Speaker 1>I could do it on Well, I do that on

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<v Speaker 1>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going into Melbourne on Sunday morning, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would I drive? And then you got to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about parking. Just jump on the train. So effectively the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>As well, well it effectively the same. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that a train is the same as an autonomous car,

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<v Speaker 2>but anyway, I'm not driving it.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone else is driving it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah you can, Patrick. Where can people find you, Patrick?

0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:33.080
<v Speaker 2>And where can they get their website built and their

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<v Speaker 2>social media pump and their brand accelerated? Where can they

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<v Speaker 2>do all of that?

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<v Speaker 3>You really think, on the strength of today's conversation, anybody's

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<v Speaker 3>going to contact me. But anyway, it's it's websites now,

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<v Speaker 3>dot com dot Au, websites now to com today you

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<v Speaker 3>or ty shit at home dot com today you. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>about to put some new training exercises on my channel

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<v Speaker 3>that I haven't updated since COVID because my students have

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<v Speaker 3>all said, we had our last class night last night,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I've got to put some new X sizes

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<v Speaker 3>and tight chi workouts for people over the holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you, Patrick. Thank you, Tiffany and Cook. Have

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<v Speaker 2>a good weekend, both of you. Quickly, tiff what are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing on the weekend?

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<v Speaker 4>Quickly, I'm about to head up to Gisbon today and

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<v Speaker 4>be in the country for a couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, Oh nice? What's in Gisbone?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there something?

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>I have two choir performances with our local community choir.

0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:33.360
<v Speaker 3>I've got a chee break up. I'm going to a

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<v Speaker 3>vegan market in Melbourne. I'm going to dinner tonight with

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:38.919
<v Speaker 3>friends at the local pub. Man, I've got so much

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<v Speaker 3>on this weekend I don't even know to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>You just described my worst weekend ever. Thanks team, See

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<v Speaker 2>you next time.