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Speaker 1: Sitsy and Wither with Kate Ritchie podcast. Welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: We thought it was fitting with only eighty six days

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Speaker 2: until Taylor touches down in Australia to do our next

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Speaker 2: edition of the Educate Podcast, where you girls, Jess and

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Speaker 2: Lizzie educate me on everything Taylor Swift in the lead

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Speaker 2: up to that exciting moment in twenty twenty four. Now

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Speaker 2: I'm flying blind here today. I have no idea really

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Speaker 2: what we're talking about, but I do know that there

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Speaker 2: is an interview floating around there with Taylor's feller, Travis Kelcey,

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Speaker 2: and it's got people talking and I should know about it.

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Speaker 2: Are we loving the interview or are we not? And

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Speaker 2: tell me all about it?

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Speaker 3: Well, we are, and we aren't. We love everyone loves

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Speaker 3: Travis like I think we all do here. I think

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Speaker 3: he's definitely taken the prize. As you know, the Crown

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Speaker 3: is her favorite boyfriend ever so far. But he's done

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Speaker 3: an interview for the Wall Street Journal, which I don't

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Speaker 3: even really understand why.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, I suppose we stop down at this

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Speaker 4: point and we say he does have his own career.

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Speaker 4: He's done media before her, He'll do media well into

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Speaker 4: the future. It makes good block he's talking for a reason,

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Speaker 4: not just on that, no, but there has been a

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Speaker 4: lot of interviews and also his parents have spoken on

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Speaker 4: the relationship. I'd love to know what this article says

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Speaker 4: and then we can delve into if this is a

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Speaker 4: little bit unprecedented for Taylor and her bows.

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Speaker 3: It's totally bizarre in the sense that I don't think

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Speaker 3: we've ever seen as a partner of Taylor's talk this

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Speaker 3: openly and candidly about dating her.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that what he's so early on?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Isn't this what we like about him?

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Speaker 2: Though? Yes, I mean because I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 2: where you're going with this. But part of why I

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Speaker 2: love Travis Kelcey and why I mean it's the two

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Speaker 2: months I know, you know, that guy that plays for

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs I love, I just love everything about him.

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Speaker 2: But I do think the one thing that is a

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Speaker 2: standout for me, regardless of whether he happens to be

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Speaker 2: dating Taylor Swift, is that we've met a guy in

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Speaker 2: the media who is so openly into his girlfriend. He

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Speaker 2: has a massive career of his own, he doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: threatened by her, He says great things about her. I

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Speaker 2: think there was a line once upon a time where

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Speaker 2: he said something about Taylor's so great, we all love her,

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Speaker 2: we should like look out for her or protect her.

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Speaker 2: And I thought, oh, my goodness, you've just won a

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Speaker 2: thousand points. And then I bought a poster and put

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Speaker 2: it on my wall. So there's been all that stuff,

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Speaker 2: and I guess we're talking about the interviews now, because,

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Speaker 2: like you said, he's done interview. He's done thousands of

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Speaker 2: interviews before.

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Speaker 3: So he starts the interview by saying, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if I should get into all of this, So straight

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Speaker 3: off the bat, it's like, okay, we've been warned, he

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Speaker 3: doesn't know if he should be doing this, but off

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Speaker 1: So essentially he tells the story of how they.

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Speaker 3: Met because as we thought, he gave her the friendship bracelet.

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Speaker 1: She didn't reach out, YadA, YadA, YadA. But what actually happened.

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Speaker 3: Was that he reached out to her family, oh when

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Speaker 3: she was performing at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas, and kind

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Speaker 3: of got them in his corner a bit, butted them up,

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Speaker 3: introduced himself, and so he made sure that you know,

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Speaker 3: she had the big locker room. He made sure that.

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Speaker 3: He says, here, I had somebody playing Cupid. There were

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Speaker 3: definitely people she knew that who I was in her corner?

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Speaker 3: Who said who would say to her? Did you know

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Speaker 3: he's coming tonight? So he was planting the seeds very early.

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Speaker 2: Let me just I need to ask when we say

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Speaker 2: that he was contacting the family. The family is also

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Speaker 2: her on her team. That's right, management team or a

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Speaker 2: producing team or whatever whatever it is. So it's not

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Speaker 2: that they've just ropped up to Taylor's house or home

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Speaker 2: childhood home and contacted mum and dad. It would make

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Speaker 2: sense for them to maybe go through mum and dad

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Speaker 2: to organize somewhere for her to sit et Ceterayeh, that

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Speaker 2: makes sense.

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Speaker 4: That does make sense. Yeah, because her mum, Andrea is

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Speaker 4: on the management team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Can I say for an NFL player, every game, everything

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Speaker 4: they do is from a playbook.

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Speaker 1: This is one from the playbook. He's playing the game

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Speaker 1: in early with the family.

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Speaker 3: And he even says, she'll probably hate me for saying this.

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Speaker 3: But when she came to Arrowhead Stadium, they gave her

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Speaker 3: the big locker room as a dressing room, and I

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Speaker 3: made sure that her little cousins were taking pictures in

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Speaker 1: Play number two from the book, Oh Wow, he's.

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Speaker 3: The mass And then he says, when I then I

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Speaker 3: met her in New York, we had already been kind

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Speaker 3: of talking, so I knew that we could have had

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Speaker 3: a nice dinnern and like a conversation, and what goes

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Speaker 3: from there will go from there. But this is I

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Speaker 3: think this is the best part about it, which speaks

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Speaker 3: back to your point that you mentioned earlier about how

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Speaker 3: supportive he is of her, how much he loves her

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Speaker 3: adores her. He explained that his whole family and him

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Speaker 3: were kind of taken aback at the beginning and a

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Speaker 3: bit unsure of how to handle the crazy media attention,

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Speaker 3: because he says, I've never dated anyone with that kind

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Speaker 3: of aura about them before. I've never dealt with it.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, why would I run away

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Speaker 3: from it. I'm not running away from it.

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Speaker 1: The scrutiny she gets.

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Speaker 3: How much she has a magnifying glass on her every

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Speaker 3: single day, paparazzi outside her house, outside every restaurant she

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Speaker 3: goes to, after every flight she gets off, and she's

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Speaker 3: just there living, being beautiful and enjoying life.

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Speaker 1: When she acts like that. I better not be the

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Speaker 1: one acting strange. See here's a guy who just gets

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Speaker 1: it right. How beautiful? But is he for real? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Now, I really I'm going along with this with you.

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Speaker 2: And when he says that she's just beautiful and she's

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Speaker 2: just being herself, I'm falling in love even with Travis,

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Speaker 2: and I want this all to be I really want

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Speaker 2: this all to be great?

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Speaker 1: Is it all very sincere? We think?

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Speaker 2: And or is like for him to say? I don't

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Speaker 2: know if Taylor would want me to say this. Previously,

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Speaker 2: I would have thought that anything that anyone says about

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Speaker 2: Taylor has been run by Taylor.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we're.

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Speaker 4: In uncharted waters. This has never really happened before where

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Speaker 4: she's dated someone and allowed them. I shouldn't say loud,

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Speaker 4: but you know what I mean, let's be honest.

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Speaker 2: Would everything is micromanaged and because it's important, she's got

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Speaker 2: an important brand to protect.

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Speaker 4: That's right, And I feel like this is what sticks

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Speaker 4: out to me. She's had these relationships.

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Speaker 1: We know that she was with Joe for six years.

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Speaker 4: She then very publicly dated Maddie Healy from the nineteen

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Speaker 1: It didn't you know last very long. They're just hanging out,

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Speaker 1: that's fine.

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Speaker 4: But those two relationships didn't work right, including the long

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Speaker 4: long term relationship where they were so private. He had

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Speaker 4: a media profile big or small, I'll let you take

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Speaker 4: your pick, and he never really said anything.

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Speaker 1: He said, you know, we just like our privacy.

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Speaker 4: For her then to do this huge one eighty and

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Speaker 4: this guy that she's only been dating for such a

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Speaker 4: short amount of time to be able to speak this openly,

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Speaker 4: I think she's throwing out the rule book and she's

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Speaker 4: saying it hasn't worked in the past the way I've

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Speaker 4: done it, and I've guarded it. Let's just be public,

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Speaker 4: let's have fun, let me train whatever. If we're going

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Speaker 4: to break up, we're going to break up. If we're together,

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Speaker 4: we're together. But like, I can't keep doing this where

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Speaker 4: I guard it for so long because it's not good

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Speaker 4: for my mental health. I feel like I'm not bejeweled

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Speaker 4: anymore when they don't talk.

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Speaker 1: About me in public. Let's see what the new guy does.

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Speaker 3: And also she's probably a bit like, you know, about

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Speaker 3: to turn thirty four, am I really you know, do

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Speaker 3: I want to be living this way still?

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Speaker 1: Before give it away?

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Speaker 2: I need to kind of own this a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: Who cares what people think?

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Speaker 3: And as we saw in that video where she ran

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Speaker 3: up to him and gave him mckiss like, I feel

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Speaker 3: like she's very on board with him being so open

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Speaker 3: about her.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they've known each other for a lot longer and

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Speaker 2: we will never know.

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Speaker 4: I think that's what is so baffling is that we're

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Speaker 4: seeing this play out in real time, you know, when

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Speaker 4: he's sang we went to New York and had that

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Speaker 4: data or whatever, like we saw that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw that.

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Speaker 4: It's why it's confusing, because we're finally being let in

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Speaker 4: at the time that it's happening, when.

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Speaker 3: We've only really been let in very much delayed after

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and sometimes via the lyrics. I think what's most

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Speaker 2: album in it And if we don't know the truth now,

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Speaker 2: we will then.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Can I just end this by saying, Travis, is some

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Speaker 4: old tweets resurface? Trying now, when a celebrity's old tweets presurface,

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Speaker 4: that's probably the you've seen of that celebrity, right because

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Speaker 4: they're in a bit of trouble.

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Speaker 1: Yeh.

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Speaker 4: Can I just please tell Lease the relationship level that

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Speaker 4: we're dealing with in terms of lyricism. He tweeted back

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Speaker 4: in April twenty eleven, I just gave a squirrel a

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Speaker 4: piece of bread and its straight smashed all of it.

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Speaker 4: I had no idea they ate bread like that haha

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Speaker 4: hashtag crazy ha ha ha. Whereas she has given us

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Speaker 4: lyrics such as and I was never good at telling jokes.

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Speaker 4: But the punchline goes, I'll get older, but your lovers

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Speaker 4: stay my age from when your Brooklyn broke my skin

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Speaker 4: and bones. I'm a soldier who's returning half her weight.

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Speaker 4: But hey, guys, that's squirrels straight off. Spat Crazy Bear,

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Speaker 3: It's giving the Golden Retriever puppy energy like he's such

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Speaker 3: a golden Retriever. Like the most he thinks about is

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Speaker 3: giving a squirrel a piece of bread. I love that

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Speaker 3: you call him vacant. I mean I would love a

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Speaker 3: vacant man.

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Speaker 1: Don't have any thoughts, just love me well exactly, you know,