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Speaker 1: On Scolus Australia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show.

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Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, the Albernizi government's or Wellian disinformation legislation

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Speaker 4: is making news in the US. Douglas Murray will be

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Speaker 4: with me shortly to discuss that and much more. The

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Speaker 4: man behind the groundbreaking research into institutional anti Semitism at

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Speaker 4: the BBC will join me later in the hour, and

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Speaker 4: Nick Cator will explain why the Tials are lurching further

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Speaker 4: left and talking about the left.

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Speaker 3: Tonight's edition of Lefties.

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Speaker 4: Losing It features totally normal folk telling us why Conservatives

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Speaker 4: are so weird.

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Speaker 5: What is something weird about Conservatives?

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Speaker 6: There is a almost a cull tesh vibe. I feel,

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Speaker 6: the way they operate within themselves. They refuse to listen

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Speaker 6: to outside people you know there, refusing to learn, essentially,

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Speaker 6: I think that is a large part of it.

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Speaker 4: Now we hear plenty from the tills about Conservative male

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Speaker 4: MPs in the Australian Parliament needing to lift their standards

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Speaker 4: of behavior, but nothing about their ideological bedfellows. The Greens

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Speaker 4: are indeed former green Lydia Thorpe who this week decided

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Speaker 4: to interrupt Liberal Senator Alex Antick as he tried to

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Speaker 4: speak about divisive welcome to country ceremonies.

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Speaker 7: Have a look at this now.

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Speaker 8: The idea that AFL fans and players are expected to

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Speaker 8: listen to these ceremonies when all they actually want to

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Speaker 8: do is watch the footy is extraordinary, and one suspects

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Speaker 8: that many viewers, who in principle wouldn't have had a

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Speaker 8: problem with these practices, are getting as fed.

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Speaker 9: Up Antice senathorpt of order.

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Speaker 10: No, I just want to interrupt his speech.

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Speaker 9: Seriously, can we just you know too minutes? It's an

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Speaker 9: antic thank you.

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Speaker 3: Oh dear.

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Speaker 4: The speaker was fed up, but Lydia was not done yet.

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Speaker 8: Woke community meetings, woke sports matches, wope council.

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Speaker 9: Meeting, the antics and just visunior seat colleagues. We're only

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Speaker 9: asking to listen in peace and quiet for two minutes,

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Speaker 9: that's all. It's not a big ask. Can we just

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Speaker 9: do that one? The galleys full of people watching the

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Speaker 9: behavior here, it's quite childish. Order, Senator Antique, you have

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Speaker 9: the core again.

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Speaker 8: I think we are making the point very clearly here.

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Speaker 8: Now it's two hundred and fifty thousand years, and as

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Speaker 8: we've said before, I don't need to be welcome to

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Speaker 8: my own country in nough to you, what we witch

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Speaker 8: witnessed before the match last weekend was a product of

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Speaker 8: letting this ride for too long? Have you had enough?

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Speaker 8: I certainly have.

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Speaker 4: Joining me now as senior fellow at the Menzies Research

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Speaker 4: Center and senior columnists with the Australian newspaper, Nick Kait Nick,

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Speaker 4: what did you make of Senator Thorpe's performance? The speaker

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Speaker 4: was certainly frustrated.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, look at what I love about Alexander as he

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Speaker 11: goes in there and says things will be perfectly uncontroversial

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Speaker 11: in probably ninety five percent of Australia, but of course

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Speaker 11: in the Senate Chamber, Oh.

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Speaker 10: No, how dare you?

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Speaker 11: And because Lydia Thorpe put on the usual display, I

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Speaker 11: think that's what she's there for, is entertainment, by the way,

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Speaker 11: But of course Alexander's perfectly absolutely correct. You know, the

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Speaker 11: welcome to country thing is a relatively modern invention and

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Speaker 11: it's completely misused. It's used for virtue signaling on the

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Speaker 11: one hand, and it's also used to make money, as

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Speaker 11: you know, by aboriginal groups, Aboriginal corporations who charge handsomely

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Speaker 11: to anybody who's willing to pay for their services. So

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Speaker 11: I'm with Alex on this one. Definitely yes.

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Speaker 4: And the interruptions they're saying, I'm just interrupting for the

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Speaker 4: sake of interrupting.

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Speaker 10: At least come.

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Speaker 3: Up with something. Go through the motions, pretend.

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Speaker 4: Now, let's go to the wacky world of academia. And

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Speaker 4: after the Australian National University reversed its decision to expel

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Speaker 4: a student who had expressed support for her Mass, we

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Speaker 4: learned that this student be Trice Tucker, is now running

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Speaker 4: to be president of the a and u's student association.

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Speaker 4: Let's just listen again to that infamous ABC interview where

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Speaker 4: she expressed unconditional support for a terrorist group.

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Speaker 11: You've also got to send a meshies to Hamas to

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Speaker 11: release the hostages, don't you.

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Speaker 12: Well, I actually say that Hamas deserve our unconditional support,

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Speaker 12: not because I agree with their strategy.

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Speaker 2: You can't condemn what her mass did in October.

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Speaker 12: I will not condemn what Hamas did. We must be unconditional,

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Speaker 12: but we must be critical also.

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Speaker 4: Nick, how will Jewish students fear if she's elected president

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Speaker 4: of the student association.

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Speaker 11: I think they feel distinctly uncomfortable. Really, it's a terrible thing.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I remember read too. I don't want to

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Speaker 11: sound like the old bloke again, but I remember the

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Speaker 11: days when universities were for the best and brightest. But

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Speaker 11: when you listen to people like this, do you see

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Speaker 11: that they're now open to the dullest and dimmest. This

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Speaker 11: woman she can't even have read. Can I just read

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Speaker 11: you one of her little messages? She says, just want

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Speaker 11: to affirm that Palestinians, it's got a four in the

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Speaker 11: middle of it, for some reason, have the right to

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Speaker 11: resist by any means necessary, as recognized under internal law.

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Speaker 11: What does she mean, Well, it's if she means international law.

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Speaker 11: Is she sheal is genesting that the right to resist

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Speaker 11: by raping, pillaging and killing babies is preserved under international law?

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Speaker 11: I think not. It's just the absolute. I don't know

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Speaker 11: that the no nothing quality of these people, and I

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Speaker 11: don't know what they're doing at university. It would seem

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Speaker 11: to be a waste of time educating them.

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Speaker 4: Well, yes, there's a few things I could say here,

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Speaker 4: but I will refrain. Before you go the tills are well,

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Speaker 4: they're going to the likes of socialists like AOC and

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Speaker 4: Bernie Sanders for advice. The Climate two hundred, the group

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Speaker 4: behind much of the TILLS campaign funding, is going to

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Speaker 4: host an event titled how to Win Lessons from Obama,

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Speaker 4: Bernie and AOC, featuring a Democrat spin doctor who has

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Speaker 4: worked on the campaigns of America's most left leaning politicians

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Speaker 4: and helped push the disastrous Green New Deal. Next, Sure,

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Speaker 4: the Tills just merge with the Greens.

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Speaker 3: I think that would make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 11: Well, they are right, they are the Gucci Greens. I

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Speaker 11: think we call them, don't we. They are the green

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Speaker 11: virtue signalers, people who they don't like to cool themselves

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Speaker 11: Green it's got a sort of you know, a sort

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Speaker 11: of wild tinted through it. But teal is much more

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Speaker 11: the sort of color that's at home within in places

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Speaker 11: like Wentworth in Sydney had about us tay that Australians

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Speaker 11: headline writers to task on this one, if I may reader,

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Speaker 11: because they described this as a socialist intelligence unit, which

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Speaker 11: I would have thought it's a contradiction in terms. But anyway,

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Speaker 11: perhaps they cannot keep that one.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, that is a good point. Nick Kita, thank

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Speaker 4: you so much for your time this evening.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now.

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Speaker 4: Is best selling author of groundbreaking works including the Strange

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Speaker 4: Death of Europe, The Madness of Crowds, and his latest

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Speaker 4: The War on the West. Douglas Murray, Let's start in

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Speaker 4: the US, and apparently Kamala Harris grew up as a

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Speaker 4: middle class kid, and that's going to solve inflation.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to the economy.

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Speaker 5: Do you believe Americans are better off than there were

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Speaker 5: four years ago?

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Speaker 10: So I was raised as a middle class kid.

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Speaker 11: When we talk about bringing down prices and making life

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Speaker 11: more affordable for people, one or two specific things you

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Speaker 11: have in mind for that.

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Speaker 10: Well, I'll start with this. I grew up a middle

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Speaker 10: class kid.

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Speaker 4: And now her running mate Tim Walls is also going

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Speaker 4: with that answer when asked about inflation.

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Speaker 9: Let's start with inflation.

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Speaker 5: What do you tell people who wake up frankly each

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Speaker 5: morning wondering how am I going to get buy financially?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell them, Gamo Harrison, I know something about it.

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Speaker 9: It being a middle class vote, Douglas.

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Speaker 4: Is this strategy going to work? The media seem to

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Speaker 4: love it. The glowing coverage has not stopped for the pair,

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Speaker 4: but is the electorate going to buy it?

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Speaker 13: It's very inting. There are really only two reasons to

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Speaker 13: do this line. The first is that both Harrison Walls

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Speaker 13: feel about the American public don't know who they are,

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Speaker 13: and that may be actually quite a good estimate of

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Speaker 13: where they stand. Tim Watz has only come across the

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Speaker 13: American public at largest radar in the last few weeks

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Speaker 13: since he has named the running mate. And it's true

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Speaker 13: that to a great extent, you know, people don't really

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Speaker 13: know Karla Harris, and so it seems to me fairly

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Speaker 13: obvious that their teams have said to them, you know,

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Speaker 13: you've got to establish yourself with the electorate and let

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Speaker 13: them know who you are. It's quite interesting that the

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Speaker 13: first and second most important jobs on earth are being

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Speaker 13: competed for by people who feel that the public don't

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Speaker 13: know who they are. But let me just go on

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Speaker 13: the second reason. The second reason you would say that

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Speaker 13: is because you don't have a policy, because you have

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Speaker 13: absolutely no idea of how to bring down inflation and

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Speaker 13: to bring down the cost of living for average households

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Speaker 13: in America. I said this to you recently, Reta. It's

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Speaker 13: something that Kamala Harris has been particularly adept at throughout

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Speaker 13: her political career, which is that you ask her a

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Speaker 13: big the issue is, and you say, what are you

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Speaker 13: going to do about this very important thing? And she says,

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Speaker 13: I'm going to explain to you why it's a very

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Speaker 13: important thing and why people like me think it is

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Speaker 13: a very important thing. Their fear about actually coming down

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Speaker 13: to any nitty gritty on policy is presumably because they

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Speaker 13: don't have any policy, or the policy they would like

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Speaker 13: to institute is one which they don't think the American

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Speaker 13: electorate would like, and so they're going to spring it

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Speaker 13: on them after the election when the electorate has graciously

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Speaker 13: agreed to vote them into office.

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Speaker 4: And Harris has been telling us bidics is working. She's

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Speaker 4: been saying that for some time, so to now kind

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Speaker 4: of switch it around and she's going to be the

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Speaker 4: solution to the problems caused in part by Bidenomics. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it wouldn't be an easy, easy policy to sell. Now,

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Speaker 4: we've also got at the moment, this vitriol, hyperbolic retric

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Speaker 4: against Donald Trump. It has not stopped even really slowed down,

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Speaker 4: despite two assassination attempts in as many months. Indeed, they're

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Speaker 4: blaming Donald Trump for the attempts on his life. We've

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Speaker 4: been playing clips of that all week on this show.

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Speaker 4: It's curious given the left has long argued that words

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Speaker 4: can be violence, and they've sought to blame their ideological

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Speaker 4: opponents for acts of politically motivated violence, even protests or riots.

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Speaker 4: Old enough to remember last month, Douglas, when the likes

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Speaker 4: of Alistair camp Will wanted you arrested for riots in Britain.

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Speaker 13: Look, I mean, it's an amazing thing. This Every side

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Speaker 13: in politics can get overheated. It goes without saying everyone

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Speaker 13: particular election season lobbs the biggest attacks they've got on

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Speaker 13: their opponents, and this season is no different from any

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Speaker 13: other to that extent. But the thing that is interesting

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Speaker 13: and different is that we have now had two assassination attempts,

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Speaker 13: not thwarted near the stage of assassination, but really serious plots,

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Speaker 13: including a headshot to the president, and the Democrats and

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Speaker 13: the Democrat media don't seem to have thought to tone

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Speaker 13: it down a bit. That slightly amazes me, because I mean,

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Speaker 13: when there is an attack on somebody of the political left,

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Speaker 13: it should be axiomatic. It isn't always by any means,

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Speaker 13: but it should be axiomatic that people on the right say,

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Speaker 13: there's absolutely no justification for this. Now, look, some people

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Speaker 3: Terrible state of affairs.

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Speaker 13: But the interesting thing is that that passed for completely

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Speaker 4: Oh, Dan Andrews, The list with him is along the

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Speaker 4: This madness is also happening in America to a lesser extent.

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Speaker 15: I had four years under the tutelage of the ultimate

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Speaker 14: Hydra toll as mummies, I mean, really, Douglas, are Californians

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Speaker 3: Rita Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 13: To save me pleasure as always still to come.

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Speaker 3: Lefties losing it?

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Speaker 4: And Donald Trump was a panelist on Gutfeld and he

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Speaker 4: Now it's time for lefties losing it. And let's hear

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Speaker 3: Can't wait to hear this.

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Speaker 5: What is something weird about conservatives?

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Speaker 6: There is a almost a cultesh vibe. I feel the

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Speaker 3: Perfect.

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Speaker 4: Yep, they're there, folks calling you weird for believing in

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Speaker 3: Let's go to New York.

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Speaker 4: Now we're dyeing your armpit hair pink is now an

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Speaker 3: Confused, watch this?

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Speaker 4: Have you ever gone to us alant to die your

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Speaker 16: hair affirmation station at Happy Place Studio in New York

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Speaker 16: City where you can get your body hair styled and died.

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Speaker 17: For me, expressing myself through my hair is such an

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Speaker 17: important part of feeling confident in my appearance as a

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Speaker 17: queer person.

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Speaker 16: Not only does dyeing my hair make me feel empowered,

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Speaker 16: it helps affirm my gender identity too.

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Speaker 4: Dying our hair together has always been a body experience,

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Speaker 4: and having this opportunity at a salon instead of at

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Speaker 4: home has just been really exciting and fun. You know,

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Speaker 4: the Democrats must be getting desperate because they're sending celebrities

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Speaker 4: to door knock and hug constituents in the Swing States.

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Speaker 4: Here is Hanoi Jane Fonda d'Or knocking in Michigan.

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Speaker 1: It's never done this for a president.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh.

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Speaker 5: I've done it first.

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Speaker 9: I had an ex husband who came from Royal Michigan.

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Speaker 13: I've done it for him.

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Speaker 10: Uh huh.

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Speaker 9: But I've never done it for a president.

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Speaker 1: But this is most important.

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Speaker 10: Oh definitely have to have to have to get them elected.

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Speaker 4: Talking about Kouki's celebs, remember when Howard Stern was edgy

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Speaker 4: and cool.

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Speaker 3: Me neither. I'm not a hundred. Stern is only getting worse.

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Speaker 4: Listen to this bile filled rant about Trump supporters.

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Speaker 9: Hate the game. I hate the people who vote for him.

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Speaker 9: I think they're stupid. I do. I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 9: I have no respect for you.

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Speaker 4: Now to one of the democrats biggest celebrity backers, Puff

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Speaker 4: Daddy P Diddy showing court holmbs. He has many names

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Speaker 4: and is now facing many serious charges. But it wasn't

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Speaker 4: long ago that P Diddy was endorsing Democrats, raising money

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Speaker 4: for them, and running vote campaigns. He was so prolific

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Speaker 4: and effective that Jimmy Kimmel wanted.

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Speaker 3: Him to run for president. Remember this, maybe.

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Speaker 9: You could be president. Do you ever think about anything

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Speaker 9: like that? No about you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wouldn't do a better job.

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Speaker 17: But I think you know what I would if you

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Speaker 17: agreed to run for president, I would be happy to

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Speaker 17: be your running meet.

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Speaker 10: Let's put it that way all right.

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Speaker 4: Now to CBS, where a reporter had this triggering news

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Speaker 4: for lefties about the battleground state of Nevada. It seems

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Speaker 4: nowadays Nevada is Mecca country.

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Speaker 1: But what was really incredible is in every single restaurant,

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Speaker 1: the people willing to talk to us.

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Speaker 3: We could only find one.

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Speaker 5: Hair supporter in every restaurant, and we left no stone unturned.

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Speaker 10: I approached every single person.

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Speaker 4: Now, every now and then CNN allow a loan figure

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Speaker 4: from the center right to appear on one of their

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Speaker 4: panels to be typically bashed by lefties. But here Scott

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Speaker 4: Jennings manages to extract from the CNN crew that they

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Speaker 4: know the blood bath lie is a lie, but they

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Speaker 4: allowed to be aired daily without correction or context.

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Speaker 5: It is said by every Democrat working for or around

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Speaker 5: her campaign every day on this network and every other one.

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Speaker 5: The blood back thing is stated every single day. Okay,

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Speaker 5: let me put my point in thereat eliminate constitutional What

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Speaker 5: do you say there?

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Speaker 10: This act.

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Speaker 15: You're referring to Trump's use of the word blood bath

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Speaker 15: when he was two was he talking about I'm going

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Speaker 15: to explain it to people because they think there's confusion

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Speaker 15: about this use of the word blood bath. When he

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Speaker 15: was talking about, you know, vehicle manufacturing jobs in the

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Speaker 15: United States, Vice President Harris improperly and unfairly mischaracterized that

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Speaker 15: as him saying there would be a blood bath if

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Speaker 15: he were elected. However, she did not say that if

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Speaker 15: Trump were elected there would be a blood bath.

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Speaker 10: She did not.

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Speaker 5: I know you have interviewed and had people out here

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Speaker 5: and have watched the same coverage I have. The blood

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Speaker 5: bath garbage is and it is a pillar of the

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Speaker 5: Democratic campaign against Trump as his dictator, as is eliminate

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Speaker 5: the US Constitution.

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Speaker 4: And here is Don lemon on sin and spearing a

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Speaker 4: bunch of lies on hyperbole, including the aforementioned bloodbath lie.

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Speaker 4: This is all to show that the assassination attempts against Trump,

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Speaker 4: ah Well, his own fault, good.

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Speaker 7: Jill, crooked Hillary, crooked Kamala, comrade Kamala, deranged Jack Smith,

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Speaker 7: bird brain, Nikki Haley, blood bath, that he's not elected,

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Speaker 7: there won't be another election. If he's not elected, bringing

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Speaker 7: drugs that bring in crime, the rapists, poisoning the blood

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Speaker 7: of our country, destroying the blood of our country, which

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Speaker 7: was something that was Hitlers, communist, Marxist.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump was today a panelist on Gutfeld, a top

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Speaker 4: rating late night show on Fox News, and he was

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Speaker 4: in great form, even joking about the latest attempt on

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Speaker 4: his life.

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Speaker 9: I always said, GoF is a very dangerous game.

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Speaker 13: If Dan told you.

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Speaker 18: That the shooter was there, would you have tried to

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Speaker 18: take him out with your three wood?

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Speaker 9: I think so, Yeah, thanks, if I knew.

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Speaker 19: Actually, the Secret Service did a great job. They saw

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Speaker 19: the barrel of a gun, big gun. Yeah, and it

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Speaker 19: came out through bushes, and how many people would see that?

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Speaker 10: You know?

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Speaker 19: He really was very exceptional.

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Speaker 4: And he spoke about how incredibly lucky he has been

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Speaker 4: in both these assassination attempts, or perhaps it's something more

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Speaker 4: than luck.

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Speaker 19: Fortunately so far I've been very lucky, or something is

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Speaker 19: greater than all of us.

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Speaker 18: Ooh, it is something is up.

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Speaker 19: There, someone who's up there, maybe watching.

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Speaker 9: Over so I think he's voting for you.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 18: I always thought the most dangerous job was feeding the view.

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Speaker 13: But you bring up God.

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Speaker 18: You bring up God and you've almost been killed twice,

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Speaker 18: do you think more about your own mortality and what

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Speaker 18: happens after.

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Speaker 10: You go move on?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, not about mortality, but I do think more about God,

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Speaker 19: because Okay, Butler was really the greatest of all. If

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Speaker 19: I'm not looking over there, and I mean a full

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Speaker 19: turn exactly ninety degrees, I wouldn't be here right now,

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Speaker 19: and your ratings would be a little bit lower.

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Speaker 9: Perhaps.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Now let's.

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Speaker 4: Bring in Sky News contributor Kosher, Gaeta Kosher. That was

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Speaker 4: quite the performance from the former president.

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Speaker 17: Indeed, he really was in great form, a little bit

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Speaker 17: of humor, very relaxed humility in terms of talking about

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Speaker 17: divine providence. If that was at play over here, and

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Speaker 17: it just goes to show again President really has a

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Speaker 17: lot of range. I think that's to read it about

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Speaker 17: him where he can go from a late night comedy

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Speaker 17: format like this to long form podcasts with younger gen

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Speaker 17: ze talent, to his short form tweets that he's famous

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Speaker 17: or infamous for, to know everything else in between, and

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Speaker 17: that is a very important asset in this noisy media

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Speaker 17: landscape that we live in. Coupled with the fact that

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Speaker 17: means re media is such a gatekeeper for him. He

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Speaker 17: really has a way of getting his message, in his

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Speaker 17: personality through and that's why he is where he is.

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Speaker 4: I do wonder whether he's going to come back to

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Speaker 4: X completely. He's got just tens of millions of followers there.

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Speaker 4: He's persisting with truth, which I know is a business

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Speaker 4: that's now enormous, multimillion dollar business.

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Speaker 3: But the audience is on X.

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Speaker 4: And I want to as we get closer to the election,

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Speaker 4: whether he's going to be more prolific on that site.

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Speaker 3: And now, Robert F.

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Speaker 4: Kennedy Junior has released a new campaign ad outlining his

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Speaker 4: plans to work alongside Trump on tackling America's broken food

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Speaker 4: and pharmaceutical system. He's just a little bit of the ad.

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Speaker 1: Thousand and four. Robert F. Kennedy Junior was the darling

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Speaker 1: of liberals and the Democratic Party establishment, an environmentalist unafraid

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Speaker 1: to sue the biggest and most powerful polluters in America.

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Speaker 1: But then the Democrats began to abandon the ideals he

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Speaker 1: believed in, like peace, freedom of speech, honest government in

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Speaker 1: the working class. The rank and file Democrats didn't realize

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Speaker 1: it at first, but over the years, the DNC became

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Speaker 1: the tool of big money, the war machine, and the

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Speaker 1: very corporations Kennedy had battled his entire career kosher.

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Speaker 4: How do you see the RFK junior endorsement. Trump is

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Speaker 4: saying both RFK and Tulsi Gabbard, who's another former Democrat,

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Speaker 4: really step up their advocacy for him. They're doing speeches,

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Speaker 4: they're doing interviews, they're doing ads. Is it of any

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Speaker 4: value now that Kamala is the candidate?

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Speaker 10: I think so.

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Speaker 17: I think one is in terms of message, just having

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Speaker 17: former democrats', very prominent democrats endorse him, along with Silicon

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Speaker 17: Valley folks and hedge fund guys and rappers and Latino

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Speaker 17: music stars and data po poxifizers, yes, all of.

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Speaker 10: Them coming out.

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Speaker 17: It just makes him more palatable and more acceptable, I

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Speaker 17: think as a brand than he was four and certainly

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Speaker 17: eight years ago. In Rfk's case in particular, there is

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Speaker 17: a mathematical consequence to it that one to two points

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Speaker 17: of his support that he actually was able to consolidate

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Speaker 17: when he was running.

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Speaker 10: Telling them to vote is another thing.

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Speaker 17: And then also I think in his case is broadening

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Speaker 17: the message more around all this health and childhood health

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Speaker 17: and everything else, which will make Trump, I think, more

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Speaker 17: palatable to those suburban moms that he's always struggled with,

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Speaker 17: because they do a lot of them do trust rfk's

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Speaker 17: track record on this, and I think that does carry weight. Well.

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Speaker 4: We've also got prominent former Republicans or some people will

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Speaker 4: call them rhinos Republicans in name only, backing Harris. I

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Speaker 4: would argue that actually doesn't hurt Trump too much because

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Speaker 4: they're precisely the figures that that Republican base well borderline

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Speaker 4: loads these days. I mean, that's why we have a

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Speaker 4: Trump because those characters really did undermine trust amongst their

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Speaker 4: voter base. But couldn't that hurt Trump? To have the

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Speaker 4: likes of Romney and trying to think who else from.

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Speaker 3: The Chee, the Chinese.

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Speaker 10: The mckain's son, I think came out.

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Speaker 17: I think you're right that by now, by twenty twenty

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Speaker 17: four not so much, because it's just crystallizing this whole

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Speaker 17: The shape of the two parties is changing, and it's

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Speaker 17: about populism versus the establishment, and those guys really personify establishment,

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Speaker 17: and I think to your point, it just crystallizes how

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Speaker 17: Trump has remade the Republican Party in his image, and

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Speaker 17: I think that just further further's that message, and it's

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Speaker 17: not going to get too many Democrats to vote for Khamla,

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Speaker 17: I think.

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Speaker 4: And Telsa Gabbart is on this message a lot too.

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Speaker 4: That the Democrat party she joined that she wanted to

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Speaker 4: run full president for is very different to what it

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Speaker 4: is now, and it's really departed a lot of those

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Speaker 4: values that had a joining them in the first place.

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Speaker 4: Now this is a turn up for the books. The

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Speaker 4: Teamsters Union, which has endorsed every Democrat candidate well for

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Speaker 4: at least a couple of decades, now, decided not to

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Speaker 4: endorse Kamala Harris. They won't be endorsing anyone this year

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Speaker 4: because their members are backing Trump. Indeed, three in five

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Speaker 4: of the members are supporting Trump. Here's how Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: reacted to the announcement.

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Speaker 19: Democrats automatically have the Teamsters. They took a voter, and

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Speaker 19: I guess I was at sixty percent or more.

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Speaker 2: And that's a great honor.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's really I've had.

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Speaker 19: A lot of teamsters work for me, a lot of

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Speaker 19: the concrete trucks, and you've built all these buildings, and

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Speaker 19: you see in New York City, the teamsters, exclusively teamsters,

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Speaker 19: I have to say, and they've done a great job.

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Speaker 2: But the vote of the Teamsters themselves.

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Speaker 19: Was very high for me and the leadership Sean O'Brien

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Speaker 19: and the group, who are great people. They said we

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Speaker 19: and endorsed the Democrats. So I think this is the

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Speaker 19: first time in many decades that they haven't endorsed Democrats.

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Speaker 3: Kosha.

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Speaker 4: Last time, around one in three of the Teamsters voted for.

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Speaker 3: Trump over Biden.

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Speaker 4: To see that figure and out go to three and five,

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Speaker 4: it's quite a dramatic improvement for him.

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Speaker 3: Why do you think is behind that.

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Speaker 17: Huge I think it's a continuation of what Trump put

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Speaker 17: his finger on when he first ran in twenty fifteen

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Speaker 17: twenty sixteen, about the forgotten man and women and the

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Speaker 17: working class, which the membership of these unions and these

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Speaker 17: teamsters represent, and so he already I think, got more

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Speaker 17: support from them than the traditional Republican candidates. So we

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Speaker 17: just spoke about and with each election he just further

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Speaker 17: solidified that and that contrast between the two parties and

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Speaker 17: that reshaping that we just discussed is becoming so abundantly

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Speaker 17: clear to everybody that I think the working class, the

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Speaker 17: blue Dog Democrats, the Reagan Democrats, all those guys are

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Speaker 17: coming over coming over to the side, and the Democrat

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Speaker 17: Party is losing them and just really isn't any longer

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Speaker 17: the party of the working class as it used to be.

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Speaker 4: It isn't, but it is the party of the affluent,

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Speaker 4: highly educated. There has been this switch, and is that

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Speaker 4: going to be enough? Because you're seeing this current tactic

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Speaker 4: where they're not being very forthcoming with policy ideas, They're

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Speaker 4: doing all sorts of backflips, but it seems to be

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Speaker 4: working for them so far that a honeymoon period that

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Speaker 4: began with Harris is still underway.

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Speaker 17: The fact that the selection is so close and will

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Speaker 17: continue to be so close despite that, is so revealing

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Speaker 17: and so shocking. Even though we shouldn't be shocked at

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Speaker 17: this point that you can run, it really will be

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Speaker 17: a case where the candidate could be switched out sixty

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Speaker 17: days before the election. You run, you don't do any

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Speaker 17: media or any policy prescriptions are never described. And still

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Speaker 17: even if she loses, it's going to be by a

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Speaker 17: reason then margin, which is quite telling.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and part of the reason for that is the

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Speaker 4: overwhelmingly positive media she's receiving and the overwhelmingly negative meat

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Speaker 4: Trump is receiving. Conservative watchdog group Media Research Center has

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Speaker 4: found that despite a second attempt on Donald Trump's life,

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Speaker 4: the bulk of the mainstream media in the US has

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Speaker 4: not lowered the temperature in its anti Trump coverage. In

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Speaker 4: the first seventy two hours after the second assassination attempt,

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Speaker 4: ninety five percent of the coverage on ABC, CBS, NBC.

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Speaker 3: Was negative for Trump.

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Speaker 4: That's quite remarkable, Koshark, because this is such an astonishing

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Speaker 4: event to occur, to have an attempt on a candidate's life,

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Speaker 4: a former president, to have it happened twice in two months,

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Speaker 4: and yet still no sympathy. Know, Okay, well maybe we

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Speaker 4: should stop calling him a threat to democracy.

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Speaker 3: None of that is just doubling down.

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Speaker 10: So shameful.

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Speaker 17: The last time this happened was forty years ago. For

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Speaker 17: Ronald Reagan, there's not been an attempt. So it's a

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Speaker 17: big deal to have not worn but two attempts, as

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Speaker 17: you said, in five weeks. And it really is shameful

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Speaker 17: that they haven't done that. And I think you know

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Speaker 17: the reason is when you demonize somebody so much as

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Speaker 17: they have, the logical endpoint of that is you're going

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Speaker 17: to normalize any and every critique and active opposition against

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Speaker 17: that person, including an attempted assassination and taking their life.

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Speaker 10: So it started with the rhetoric being.

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Speaker 17: Investigated, being impeached, the lawfair being indicted, and then this

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Speaker 17: is just the natural progression of that, where it's now

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Speaker 17: normalized to either brush things under the rug that could

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Speaker 17: be helpful to Trump or just.

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Speaker 10: Continue to put it in the context.

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Speaker 17: Well, if somebody really is the American incarnation of Hitler,

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Speaker 17: then I guess they deserve this.

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Speaker 3: That's the subtext.

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Speaker 4: And you just hate to think what would happen to

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Speaker 4: the country if an assassination attempt is successful.

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Speaker 3: And he has been so.

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Speaker 4: Astonishingly lucky both these times, the first time that last

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Speaker 4: millisecond shift in his head to look at a graph

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Speaker 4: that saved his life, and this time around to have

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Speaker 4: a secret Service agent who in a golf course with

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Speaker 4: all the trees and bushes, managed to spot the.

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Speaker 10: Rifle looking through.

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Speaker 4: It's almost miraculous, really.

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Speaker 17: And that issue of the perimeter not being properly scanned

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Speaker 17: and safeguarded is obviously picking up heat. But you know,

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Speaker 17: how many times can someone be lucky? So he should

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Speaker 17: be getting presidential level security right now, or having his

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Speaker 17: own plus security.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's no person in the country right now,

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Speaker 4: and there's no one in America who's in greater danger

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Speaker 4: than Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: They've painted him.

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Speaker 4: As a new age Hitler, a threat to democracy for

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Speaker 4: eight years now, and there's enough nutbags out there who

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Speaker 4: are got it into their heads that they're going to

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Speaker 4: save the Republic from Trump. Koshugata, thank you so much

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Speaker 4: for your time this evening pleasure. After the break, the

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Speaker 4: man behind the groundbreaking research into institutional anti Semitism at

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Speaker 4: the BBE will join me.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. Now.

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Speaker 4: We've previously discussed the research led by British lawyer Trevor Assison,

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Speaker 4: which found that the BBC breached its own editorial guidelines

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Speaker 4: for news coverage more than fifteen hundred times during the

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Speaker 4: height of the Israel her mass war. Israel was associated

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Speaker 4: with genocide fourteen times more than her Maas who carried

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Speaker 4: out the mass terrorist attacks against Israelis. On October seven,

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Speaker 4: the BBC's Arabic channel was found to be one of

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Speaker 4: the most biased of all global media outlets against Israel,

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Speaker 4: with eleven instances in which their coverage featured reporters who

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Speaker 4: publicly supported her mass joining me now is senior partner

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Speaker 4: at the Assison Law Offices, Trevor Assisson.

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Speaker 3: Trevor is the BBC institutionally and semitic?

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Speaker 4: And what is behind these breaches of editorial guidelines.

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Speaker 2: I think what's really behind these breaches, and they're systemic breaches,

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Speaker 2: is a total management failure to control the journalists at

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Speaker 2: the BBC. So I've not suggested that there's anti semitism.

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Speaker 2: I deliberately avoided doing that because it's not my concern

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Speaker 2: to look at the motives behind individuals or the organization.

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Speaker 2: What I've looked at is systemic breaches of the BBC's

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Speaker 2: own guidelines to be impartial. And the reason behind it

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Speaker 2: really is that the BBC itself, although it has a

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Speaker 2: deal with the British people, it will receive four billion

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Speaker 2: pounds a year in return for which it promises to

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Speaker 2: give impartial news, but they have absolutely no management controls

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Speaker 2: at all in place to check whether or not they

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Speaker 2: actually do it. I think think of the fundamental problem

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Speaker 2: behind what's going on.

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Speaker 4: Well, these editorial guideline breaches by the BBC included all

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Speaker 4: sorts of areas accuracy and partiality, editorial values, public interests.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned that they're publicly funded. Our own public, if

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Speaker 4: publicly funded broadcaster, the ABC here in Australia, has a

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Speaker 4: similar worldview to the BBC in your experience, are taxpayer

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Speaker 4: funded broadcasters more likely to indulge in this sort of

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Speaker 4: unrelentingly biased coverage against Israel.

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Speaker 2: I think that public sector broadcasters are as likely as

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Speaker 2: any other news outlets to be captured by a particular viewpoint.

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Speaker 2: The people within the senior management will tend to hire

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Speaker 2: people who they think to be right thinking, who think

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Speaker 2: like them, and those people will tend to be high

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Speaker 2: and do and be promoted. It's very difficult for a

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Speaker 2: public sector broadcaster to be impartial, or for any broadcaster

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Speaker 2: to be impartial, unless it has very careful, proper management

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Speaker 2: systems in place. The BBC absolutely doesn't. I've been approached

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Speaker 2: by Australians concerned with the Australian public sector broadcaster, and

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Speaker 2: I believe that there are serious problems there as well.

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Speaker 2: I think what's really at stake is that journalists, some

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Speaker 2: journalists who clearly have very very negative views, should not

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Speaker 2: be just allowed to They should be sent to something

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Speaker 2: more harmless like Gardener's question time where they can do

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Speaker 2: less harm. They shouldn't be reporting on something where they

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Speaker 2: are clearly using the platform to express their own personal

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Speaker 2: views and the guidelines say we will not express our

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Speaker 2: journalist's personal views. Well, that's a myth. It's been exploded

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Speaker 2: by my report and that kind of breach. Another type

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Speaker 2: of absolutely clear breach is that Hamas is a dictatorship

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Speaker 2: that controls the reporting that comes out of Garza Strip

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Speaker 2: and the BBC specifically states that whenever they're reporting from

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Speaker 2: somewhere with reporting restrictions, they'll tell the audience. They never

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Speaker 2: tell the audience that they allow these people to report

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Speaker 2: as though what they're telling us the truth, which it

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Speaker 2: clearly isn't, and they know the BBC knows that isn't

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Speaker 2: the truth. They've got an obligation to say so they fail.

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Speaker 4: Now, your report does illustrate that the lines between opinion

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Speaker 4: and impartial, biased news reporting have been completely blurred.

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Speaker 3: How is that fixed?

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Speaker 4: Because this is an issue that goes beyond the BBC.

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Speaker 4: You've got so many news reporters these days who think

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Speaker 4: they're in the opinion game and they want to state

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Speaker 4: their opinion, and there's I think a diminishing it from

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Speaker 4: the public in media.

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Speaker 2: Because of that, the response to my report, which I

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Speaker 2: think may be the most in depth analysis of any

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Speaker 2: of the BBC's output that's ever been done. We looked

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Speaker 2: at nine million words and it's worth saying that the

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Speaker 2: BBC criticized the report for its methodology without before they'd

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Speaker 2: read it. The methodology is normal standard litigation type analysis

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Speaker 2: which I've been doing in my entire career, and in

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Speaker 2: parallel with that, an entirely new, cutting edge approach by

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Speaker 2: data scientists led by a data scientist expert in the

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Speaker 2: UK but mainly Israeli's from Israeli universities, and that supported

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Speaker 2: the completely standard, old style litigation approach. So the BBC

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Speaker 2: NIEJA reaction attacking the report on methodology, what they're actually facing.

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Speaker 2: Instead of one methodology, they're separating, facing two separate methodologies,

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Speaker 2: dealing in real depth, as I said, over searching for

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Speaker 2: over nine million words of product, and the net result

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Speaker 2: is unremitting bias. Whether it can be resolved, I think

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Speaker 2: is a question for BBC management. They've got to control

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Speaker 2: their journalists and at the moment they're just not getting

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Speaker 2: a grip at all. They're just totally out of control.

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Speaker 4: Now, the BBC is hugely influential in world media. They

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Speaker 4: have viewers listeners across television, radio, social media streaming, They've

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Speaker 4: got global news outlets. They claim to be the most

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Speaker 4: trusted news brand in the UK. You said they've disputed

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Speaker 4: the methodology you've used in your report. Beyond that, have

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Speaker 4: they had a response to your damning findings? Are they

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Speaker 4: at least attempting to do better in the future.

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Speaker 2: Well, one of my proposals was that they should have

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Speaker 2: a thematic review of their Middle East reporting. Now three

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Speaker 2: days after I sent them the report, they announced that

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Speaker 2: they were conducting a thematic review of their Middle East reporting.

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Speaker 2: So it's clearly bothered them that the report's arrived. And

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Speaker 2: I think the report they realize has totally destroyed what

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Speaker 2: trust there may still have been in the minds of

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Speaker 2: many people that the BBC is doing its job properly.

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Speaker 2: The question is whether or not the BBC will actually

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Speaker 2: read it with an open mind, and that remains to

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Speaker 2: be seen. If not, I have a fear that this

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Speaker 2: matter may have to appear before an English judge and

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Speaker 2: an English child's will they understand what impartiality means? Even

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Speaker 2: if the BBC don't, and I think that they will

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Speaker 2: find the BBC is in absolutely hopeless breach time and

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Speaker 2: time again of its own rules.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and it's not just the BBC. I would argue

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Speaker 4: your own ABC breaches its charter daily. It would be

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Speaker 4: wonderful if you could run a review of their work

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Speaker 4: and only said Australians have already been in contact with

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Speaker 4: you requesting just that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time this evening.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: That's it from May. I'll see you tomorrow night at

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Speaker 3: nine point thirty four.

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Speaker 4: Lefty's losing It, Don't go anywhere. Newsnight is up next