1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:12,921 Speaker 1: Appoche Production. Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am 2 00:00:13,001 --> 00:00:16,841 Speaker 1: Neil the Muscle comments and in this episode, I speak 3 00:00:16,881 --> 00:00:20,361 Speaker 1: with Hector Lombard, an Olympic fighter shape by Survival. 4 00:00:20,881 --> 00:00:23,401 Speaker 2: My mother told me stories that he was poshing in 5 00:00:23,481 --> 00:00:25,561 Speaker 2: his stomach so he can kill me. 6 00:00:26,121 --> 00:00:29,441 Speaker 3: And when I'm born, it was the worst. I was 7 00:00:29,441 --> 00:00:33,321 Speaker 3: getting in trouble all the fucking time. Fights and fights 8 00:00:33,361 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: and fight. 9 00:00:33,841 --> 00:00:36,921 Speaker 2: Guys attack me, they stap me, they're coming. 10 00:00:36,601 --> 00:00:39,321 Speaker 3: From behind, and I still have these cars. 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,881 Speaker 2: I didn't really care about Olympics, brother, I only care 12 00:00:42,921 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: about just do better. 13 00:00:44,721 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: Life for me man. 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: And I'm like, hell no, hein' not doing this sing 15 00:00:48,081 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: with our life jacket and everybody's laughing on me. So 16 00:00:51,281 --> 00:00:54,081 Speaker 2: I put my life jacket and everybody. 17 00:00:53,601 --> 00:00:54,201 Speaker 3: Died in the boat. 18 00:00:57,321 --> 00:01:00,921 Speaker 1: Hectare Lombard, thank you very much for coming on my podcast. 19 00:01:01,121 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: I really appreciate this. Bro. I will say this, and 20 00:01:04,241 --> 00:01:09,081 Speaker 1: I'll honestly say this. When you were in Australia and 21 00:01:09,121 --> 00:01:12,881 Speaker 1: you were fighting, I remember your name was Massive and 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,921 Speaker 1: I used to look at you and go, fuck bro. 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,161 Speaker 1: If you ever came to the door when I was 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,721 Speaker 1: working the door or King's Cross, I don't know what 25 00:01:19,761 --> 00:01:20,601 Speaker 1: the fuck I would do. 26 00:01:22,721 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: I was the cause. 27 00:01:26,961 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: But I really am excited to have you on my podcast, Bro, 28 00:01:30,401 --> 00:01:33,961 Speaker 1: I really am s no worries. Bro. Before we get 29 00:01:33,961 --> 00:01:36,561 Speaker 1: into everything about your career and everything about you being 30 00:01:36,601 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: in Australia, let's talk about you growing up, family, schooling, 31 00:01:40,481 --> 00:01:43,881 Speaker 1: your first job, and how you got into fighting. What 32 00:01:44,041 --> 00:01:45,321 Speaker 1: made you want to go down that path. 33 00:01:45,601 --> 00:01:48,241 Speaker 2: I grew up in the very fucked up lakes, right 34 00:01:48,361 --> 00:01:50,521 Speaker 2: you know, QBO. You know he can't get worse than that. 35 00:01:51,041 --> 00:01:53,241 Speaker 2: And then on top of that, my dad hated me 36 00:01:53,321 --> 00:01:56,641 Speaker 2: so bad. Do you already have my sister? My sisters 37 00:01:56,641 --> 00:01:59,601 Speaker 2: three vious older than me, and he is an alcoholic 38 00:01:59,801 --> 00:02:00,481 Speaker 2: and he would. 39 00:02:00,321 --> 00:02:02,401 Speaker 3: Drink you all the time and stuff with them, and 40 00:02:02,441 --> 00:02:05,201 Speaker 3: he's like, I don't want to have more kids, he 41 00:02:05,281 --> 00:02:08,761 Speaker 3: told my mom. So my mom thinking. 42 00:02:08,481 --> 00:02:11,041 Speaker 2: Like, oh, if you have another kid, I probably would 43 00:02:11,241 --> 00:02:12,041 Speaker 2: get him back. 44 00:02:12,801 --> 00:02:15,481 Speaker 3: And that was the worst cause he's like, you got 45 00:02:15,481 --> 00:02:16,121 Speaker 3: playing again. 46 00:02:17,161 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: So my mother told me stories that he was pushing 47 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,081 Speaker 2: has summer so he can kill me. 48 00:02:24,201 --> 00:02:26,201 Speaker 3: So I wouldn't. I wouldn't burn. 49 00:02:27,481 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: And when I born it was like even the worst, 50 00:02:31,201 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: getting bid. 51 00:02:31,721 --> 00:02:33,921 Speaker 3: Up all the time about that. And then I grew 52 00:02:34,001 --> 00:02:37,241 Speaker 3: up in the schools, in the juvenile high schools, and 53 00:02:37,281 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: then I was good at sports and building everybody. 54 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,241 Speaker 2: In the place, and then put me in the in 55 00:02:43,281 --> 00:02:45,921 Speaker 2: the combat. It's kind of like a school, especially CAOL 56 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,161 Speaker 2: the government had in the past, and I started escalating 57 00:02:49,401 --> 00:02:51,241 Speaker 2: and I was really good at you do and I 58 00:02:51,321 --> 00:02:55,361 Speaker 2: become four times national champion, and then I started my 59 00:02:55,401 --> 00:02:56,041 Speaker 2: career from there. 60 00:02:56,281 --> 00:02:59,441 Speaker 1: You know, was her heart without your parents' help? Was 61 00:02:59,481 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: it hard? 62 00:03:01,041 --> 00:03:03,801 Speaker 2: I mean I never had any any help from my parents. 63 00:03:03,881 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: Like my mom she was in love with my dad, 64 00:03:07,281 --> 00:03:10,161 Speaker 2: so she would do whatever my dad wanted. And I 65 00:03:10,201 --> 00:03:11,041 Speaker 2: grew up in the schools. 66 00:03:11,041 --> 00:03:13,201 Speaker 1: You know, but is she time to ever reached out 67 00:03:13,201 --> 00:03:16,601 Speaker 1: to you ever since? Or you've never heard from him again? Now, 68 00:03:16,641 --> 00:03:18,921 Speaker 1: my dad had mental issues. My dad and mama had 69 00:03:19,001 --> 00:03:22,841 Speaker 1: mental issues. Wow, my dad hanging himself, Oh my god. 70 00:03:23,881 --> 00:03:25,441 Speaker 1: And my mom she was like. 71 00:03:26,281 --> 00:03:31,361 Speaker 2: Mental issues, Like really really, So who was a big 72 00:03:31,441 --> 00:03:32,721 Speaker 2: role model in your life? 73 00:03:32,761 --> 00:03:32,881 Speaker 1: Then? 74 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,521 Speaker 2: Growing up as I was, as I was moving places 75 00:03:36,521 --> 00:03:39,041 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, my uncle kind of like it 76 00:03:39,081 --> 00:03:40,801 Speaker 2: sided you know, do me like a little bit of 77 00:03:40,841 --> 00:03:44,241 Speaker 2: shirt because like when I ended up being in a 78 00:03:44,441 --> 00:03:47,401 Speaker 2: junior national team, it was the guy that wanted they 79 00:03:47,441 --> 00:03:49,281 Speaker 2: want to bully me, and I said to him, like, bro, 80 00:03:49,401 --> 00:03:50,561 Speaker 2: I'll be you all the time. 81 00:03:51,321 --> 00:03:53,841 Speaker 3: Why do you want to fight with me? Oh? You know, 82 00:03:54,121 --> 00:03:55,801 Speaker 3: like you been me and Julio. But you know I 83 00:03:55,961 --> 00:03:56,881 Speaker 3: was foxing you up a site. 84 00:03:56,921 --> 00:03:59,561 Speaker 2: This is that, And one day I said I had 85 00:03:59,641 --> 00:04:01,001 Speaker 2: enough and we got. 86 00:04:00,841 --> 00:04:01,321 Speaker 3: Into the fight. 87 00:04:01,401 --> 00:04:03,681 Speaker 2: And then when I go upstairs, because we all live 88 00:04:03,721 --> 00:04:06,321 Speaker 2: in the same room, one of my friends forming like, 89 00:04:06,441 --> 00:04:07,681 Speaker 2: be careful, sell me with a knife. 90 00:04:08,601 --> 00:04:10,081 Speaker 3: So I have a. 91 00:04:10,041 --> 00:04:13,241 Speaker 2: Baseball back and I'm baseball buying the shittering. 92 00:04:13,881 --> 00:04:16,241 Speaker 3: I almost killed the guy, so I got to spend it. 93 00:04:17,121 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: That's the only time. 94 00:04:17,921 --> 00:04:20,801 Speaker 2: That I tried to scape Cuba three times, and in 95 00:04:20,841 --> 00:04:23,321 Speaker 2: the last time they I tried to scape Cubo. 96 00:04:24,361 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: It's funny because I'm an inventor. 97 00:04:25,801 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: That's how I know. I knew that I was an inventor. 98 00:04:28,281 --> 00:04:31,001 Speaker 2: This is all my papa's next I say. 99 00:04:31,161 --> 00:04:34,001 Speaker 3: End up going through that journey with our life jacket, 100 00:04:34,401 --> 00:04:39,001 Speaker 3: and everybody's laughing on me. Oh you pussy your pussy haha. 101 00:04:39,561 --> 00:04:43,281 Speaker 2: And the waves when you go in they're like twenty 102 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:48,121 Speaker 2: meters high, forty meters high, and I'm like, hell no, 103 00:04:48,241 --> 00:04:51,041 Speaker 2: ain't no doing this shit without life jacket. So I 104 00:04:51,081 --> 00:04:54,801 Speaker 2: put my life jacket, you know, and everybody died in 105 00:04:54,801 --> 00:04:55,121 Speaker 2: the boat. 106 00:04:55,361 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: Oh my fucking god. 107 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,841 Speaker 2: They only got this invide the boat with me because 108 00:04:58,880 --> 00:04:59,401 Speaker 2: I was floating. 109 00:05:00,081 --> 00:05:03,121 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was crazy. 110 00:05:03,121 --> 00:05:05,721 Speaker 1: Like I'm not religious religious, but it's like to me, 111 00:05:05,761 --> 00:05:07,921 Speaker 1: I'd look at that. That's a fucking sign, bro That's 112 00:05:07,921 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: a sign God wants you alive. 113 00:05:09,401 --> 00:05:11,721 Speaker 2: Fucking hell, I don't know what it is, Like I knew, 114 00:05:11,761 --> 00:05:14,281 Speaker 2: like I was like, you know what, I ain't no 115 00:05:14,401 --> 00:05:16,161 Speaker 2: fucking going in that shit. 116 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:17,881 Speaker 3: We a junk. 117 00:05:17,921 --> 00:05:19,801 Speaker 1: It fucking Jesus wrong. 118 00:05:20,361 --> 00:05:21,681 Speaker 3: And I've been doing everything like. 119 00:05:22,041 --> 00:05:24,401 Speaker 2: Jumping out of the airplanes because. 120 00:05:24,201 --> 00:05:25,001 Speaker 3: If you die that. 121 00:05:25,041 --> 00:05:29,201 Speaker 2: Quick, right, But drying when you're drunk, that's fucking crazy. 122 00:05:29,201 --> 00:05:32,881 Speaker 1: Brod Does sport give you inspiration to get yourself away 123 00:05:32,921 --> 00:05:35,081 Speaker 1: from all this? Like you've had a lot of trauma 124 00:05:35,121 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: in your young life? You wanted to get out of Cuba? 125 00:05:37,921 --> 00:05:40,001 Speaker 1: Is that was that your draw card to do something 126 00:05:40,001 --> 00:05:41,201 Speaker 1: in sport to get you out of there? 127 00:05:41,521 --> 00:05:43,401 Speaker 2: To be honest, I was just wanted to do something 128 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,921 Speaker 2: that was kind of like goofle my mind, you know, 129 00:05:46,121 --> 00:05:48,801 Speaker 2: like because I knew like if you don't do something. 130 00:05:49,161 --> 00:05:51,841 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get myself in trouble. So I will always 131 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:52,721 Speaker 3: do with sports. 132 00:05:52,801 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: I would always do something that it would keep my 133 00:05:55,521 --> 00:05:58,721 Speaker 2: mind occupied, because I knew that I was going to 134 00:05:58,721 --> 00:05:59,681 Speaker 2: get myself in trouble. 135 00:05:59,761 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: So I decided sport, which is that thing. 136 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,841 Speaker 2: It was a good It was a good coup for 137 00:06:03,921 --> 00:06:07,881 Speaker 2: me because my mind always would be occupied on doing something. 138 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: He started doing mixed martial arts and all like that, 139 00:06:10,241 --> 00:06:12,121 Speaker 1: and judo and all like that kind of stuff when 140 00:06:12,121 --> 00:06:14,841 Speaker 1: you were young. But when was it you actually went, 141 00:06:15,361 --> 00:06:19,041 Speaker 1: I want to represent my country and Olympics. When did 142 00:06:19,081 --> 00:06:20,561 Speaker 1: you actually go I want to do that. 143 00:06:21,121 --> 00:06:24,241 Speaker 2: The minute that I got back from the escaping Cuba 144 00:06:24,681 --> 00:06:26,321 Speaker 2: for the third time, I go back to my. 145 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 3: Hometown and as I say it, I was getting in 146 00:06:29,721 --> 00:06:34,081 Speaker 3: trouble all the fucking time. Fights and fights and fights, 147 00:06:34,081 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: and when is it going to end? One day I'm 148 00:06:37,081 --> 00:06:40,001 Speaker 3: at the club and five guys attacked me. 149 00:06:40,481 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: They stapped me. They're coming from behind. They stap me 150 00:06:43,561 --> 00:06:49,081 Speaker 2: four times. I still have the cars and start getting 151 00:06:49,121 --> 00:06:52,281 Speaker 2: one by one and at this some damage to one 152 00:06:52,281 --> 00:06:56,321 Speaker 2: guy really bad. And they were looking for me. So 153 00:06:56,401 --> 00:06:58,961 Speaker 2: I reached out to my coach and I said, look, 154 00:06:59,001 --> 00:07:01,281 Speaker 2: you know they looking for me. But they attacked me 155 00:07:01,401 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: and they're almost killable. Let me go back to training. 156 00:07:05,721 --> 00:07:07,681 Speaker 2: So my ES coach he knew that I was really 157 00:07:07,681 --> 00:07:09,521 Speaker 2: good at it, and he had like a big pool 158 00:07:09,841 --> 00:07:12,001 Speaker 2: and he goes leave the kid along. 159 00:07:12,561 --> 00:07:15,441 Speaker 3: And I started training in the national center of the game. 160 00:07:15,921 --> 00:07:17,761 Speaker 2: In one year and a half, I made the Olympid tin. 161 00:07:18,321 --> 00:07:20,681 Speaker 3: Wow, that's how I became Australian Olympic. 162 00:07:21,041 --> 00:07:23,121 Speaker 1: So is it a dream to go to the Olympics? 163 00:07:23,321 --> 00:07:25,681 Speaker 1: Is it actually a dream? 164 00:07:25,921 --> 00:07:27,561 Speaker 3: I mean it is a dream. 165 00:07:28,001 --> 00:07:30,521 Speaker 2: I wish I could have trained these four years so 166 00:07:30,561 --> 00:07:33,601 Speaker 2: I couldn't made the Olympid team be ready. But I 167 00:07:33,641 --> 00:07:37,041 Speaker 2: was kind of like a survival and I made the 168 00:07:37,081 --> 00:07:40,001 Speaker 2: Olympic team because I really was good. My goal wasn't 169 00:07:40,041 --> 00:07:40,801 Speaker 2: within the Olympics. 170 00:07:41,561 --> 00:07:42,441 Speaker 1: My goal was just. 171 00:07:42,401 --> 00:07:45,441 Speaker 3: To get out of Cuban. You know. I wish I 172 00:07:45,441 --> 00:07:49,681 Speaker 3: would have a different mentality, you know, but I'll think 173 00:07:49,761 --> 00:07:50,601 Speaker 3: that this is really good. 174 00:07:51,001 --> 00:07:53,841 Speaker 1: What was the feeling coming to Australia for the two 175 00:07:53,841 --> 00:07:57,441 Speaker 1: thousand Olympics? I was out? Was it like I've escaped 176 00:07:57,481 --> 00:07:58,241 Speaker 1: I'm not coming back. 177 00:08:00,401 --> 00:08:02,881 Speaker 2: Not only that, Like, look when I was siting in 178 00:08:02,881 --> 00:08:06,401 Speaker 2: Australia because Australia so clear, then. 179 00:08:06,321 --> 00:08:08,081 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it. I was. 180 00:08:08,161 --> 00:08:10,721 Speaker 2: I was thinking, I was breaming. I was like, this 181 00:08:10,841 --> 00:08:12,721 Speaker 2: could will be real because I don't know if you 182 00:08:12,801 --> 00:08:15,041 Speaker 2: ever you ever seen pieces of Cuba, right, she was 183 00:08:15,081 --> 00:08:21,441 Speaker 2: a dirty, filthy, disgusting place. And when I went to Australia, 184 00:08:22,041 --> 00:08:25,641 Speaker 2: even like we are jokes joking around, we were linking 185 00:08:25,641 --> 00:08:27,161 Speaker 2: the floor like this ship. 186 00:08:28,841 --> 00:08:31,721 Speaker 1: We couldn't believe it was the Olympics everything he thought 187 00:08:31,721 --> 00:08:33,801 Speaker 1: it'd be or was it was? It kind of like, 188 00:08:34,121 --> 00:08:36,721 Speaker 1: were you on two minds? Because you're saying what I'm 189 00:08:36,721 --> 00:08:39,081 Speaker 1: getting from you here is that you wanted to get 190 00:08:39,081 --> 00:08:41,441 Speaker 1: out of Cuba. They didn't matter about the Olympics. You 191 00:08:41,481 --> 00:08:43,801 Speaker 1: wanted out of Cuba. But did you take in the 192 00:08:43,841 --> 00:08:44,761 Speaker 1: Olympics itself. 193 00:08:46,121 --> 00:08:50,361 Speaker 2: I didn't really care about our linquins. 194 00:08:48,801 --> 00:08:54,641 Speaker 3: I only care about just do better life for me man. 195 00:08:55,921 --> 00:08:59,081 Speaker 2: But I wish I couldn't have this mentality because I 196 00:08:59,241 --> 00:09:01,481 Speaker 2: know for the fact that I could do better as 197 00:09:01,561 --> 00:09:03,961 Speaker 2: in in resose why But I just you know, like 198 00:09:04,481 --> 00:09:07,161 Speaker 2: even people the other one of the Olympics in Cuba, 199 00:09:07,521 --> 00:09:10,481 Speaker 2: or people that place metals and stuff like that, they're like, bro, 200 00:09:10,561 --> 00:09:13,401 Speaker 2: you were right, man, Like this punch of shit I 201 00:09:13,441 --> 00:09:18,921 Speaker 2: see Olympic champions. Now they immigrate from Cuba to America 202 00:09:19,281 --> 00:09:20,761 Speaker 2: and I get to see them all the time. 203 00:09:20,881 --> 00:09:22,641 Speaker 3: I get to see there, I get talked to them 204 00:09:23,041 --> 00:09:23,561 Speaker 3: and they. 205 00:09:23,441 --> 00:09:27,921 Speaker 2: Say, like, bro, this ten fifteen years there that I've. 206 00:09:27,801 --> 00:09:31,641 Speaker 1: Been doing, do though is ship? I was could have 207 00:09:31,641 --> 00:09:34,161 Speaker 1: done what you did. I get what you mean because 208 00:09:34,641 --> 00:09:36,521 Speaker 1: young's a bit different from me. But I wanted out 209 00:09:36,561 --> 00:09:38,641 Speaker 1: of it. I wanted out of the UK. But it's nothing 210 00:09:38,681 --> 00:09:40,921 Speaker 1: compared to what you went through. But I can see 211 00:09:40,921 --> 00:09:44,601 Speaker 1: that coming to Australia from Cuba, it's an escape for you, 212 00:09:45,001 --> 00:09:49,561 Speaker 1: and especially seeing what we had here, it's like luxury 213 00:09:49,601 --> 00:09:51,681 Speaker 1: for you here. You know what I mean? To leave Cuba. 214 00:09:51,681 --> 00:09:52,801 Speaker 3: That what really pissed me off. 215 00:09:53,241 --> 00:09:56,281 Speaker 2: I've seen this motherfuckers talking shit about Australia. 216 00:09:56,361 --> 00:09:58,761 Speaker 3: I was like, I gets so bothered. 217 00:09:59,561 --> 00:10:02,881 Speaker 2: There's a guy he moved to Bali and he's talking like, hey, 218 00:10:03,041 --> 00:10:04,841 Speaker 2: he Bali, no taxes. 219 00:10:05,321 --> 00:10:07,641 Speaker 3: You know I'm living a better life. You know, I 220 00:10:07,641 --> 00:10:08,401 Speaker 3: don't get in trust. 221 00:10:08,561 --> 00:10:11,881 Speaker 2: I said, like, fuck you, who wants to living ballet 222 00:10:11,961 --> 00:10:12,481 Speaker 2: fucking matter? 223 00:10:12,641 --> 00:10:18,961 Speaker 3: Stupid, isn't you? There's no fat nobody. 224 00:10:18,561 --> 00:10:24,681 Speaker 1: Cares about ballet, So how did it come across for 225 00:10:24,761 --> 00:10:27,201 Speaker 1: you to stay here? Did you have a plan. 226 00:10:28,201 --> 00:10:31,361 Speaker 2: There's no plan needed. When you got to Australia, it's magnetic. 227 00:10:31,601 --> 00:10:33,401 Speaker 2: It's like this place is. 228 00:10:33,361 --> 00:10:37,721 Speaker 3: So beautiful, and especially at that time, the people, the people, 229 00:10:37,761 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: it's just like because. 230 00:10:39,001 --> 00:10:41,361 Speaker 2: Obviously now the people get more guarded, you know, with 231 00:10:41,441 --> 00:10:43,441 Speaker 2: immigrants and stuff like that. But at the time, I 232 00:10:43,881 --> 00:10:46,401 Speaker 2: want to say that everything was so beautiful. 233 00:10:47,201 --> 00:10:50,401 Speaker 3: Australia was like on the boom. 234 00:10:50,881 --> 00:10:53,561 Speaker 1: Did it make it easier for you meeting your ex 235 00:10:53,841 --> 00:10:55,721 Speaker 1: for you to stay in Australia or were you already 236 00:10:55,761 --> 00:10:57,081 Speaker 1: planning to stay in Australia. 237 00:10:58,201 --> 00:11:02,201 Speaker 2: I wouldn't plan to say anywhere except Q pull it away, 238 00:11:02,361 --> 00:11:05,721 Speaker 2: you know, QA said very fucking guard place. 239 00:11:06,321 --> 00:11:08,161 Speaker 1: But did you have to get a visas to stay 240 00:11:08,241 --> 00:11:10,601 Speaker 1: or could you just stay automatically or did you just 241 00:11:11,121 --> 00:11:12,121 Speaker 1: get under the red tape? 242 00:11:12,841 --> 00:11:17,201 Speaker 2: Anyone they live in countries with oppression, they can stay 243 00:11:17,321 --> 00:11:21,161 Speaker 2: and as I said, team, they never allow you to leave. 244 00:11:21,761 --> 00:11:23,721 Speaker 1: Okay, So where were you based when you got when 245 00:11:23,761 --> 00:11:25,401 Speaker 1: you went to Australia? Where were you based? 246 00:11:25,441 --> 00:11:27,281 Speaker 3: Gold coast and move around? 247 00:11:27,601 --> 00:11:33,961 Speaker 2: I was in the seen the Melbourne Gold. 248 00:11:33,641 --> 00:11:38,201 Speaker 1: Coast and then seeing it again after the Olympics. You've 249 00:11:38,241 --> 00:11:41,201 Speaker 1: stayed in Australia. Then what what you do? Then? Do 250 00:11:41,241 --> 00:11:43,481 Speaker 1: you do you find somewhere to train? Do you get 251 00:11:43,481 --> 00:11:45,681 Speaker 1: a trainer? Do you want to start fighting? What what's 252 00:11:45,721 --> 00:11:46,441 Speaker 1: to go from there? 253 00:11:47,481 --> 00:11:49,521 Speaker 2: I met a guy his name is Jip and Rose 254 00:11:49,601 --> 00:11:52,721 Speaker 2: Kid and he was looking after me. He knew that 255 00:11:52,801 --> 00:11:55,681 Speaker 2: I was a very talented fighter and he looked up 256 00:11:56,041 --> 00:11:56,721 Speaker 2: to me at the time. 257 00:11:56,761 --> 00:11:58,281 Speaker 3: And that's how we build the CFCs. 258 00:11:58,721 --> 00:12:02,961 Speaker 2: You know, I start fighting for the waters round SEFC. 259 00:12:03,681 --> 00:12:06,281 Speaker 2: I fought in so many different on that single and 260 00:12:06,321 --> 00:12:08,081 Speaker 2: then we built the CFC. 261 00:12:08,921 --> 00:12:09,881 Speaker 3: It was the hell of a show. 262 00:12:10,081 --> 00:12:13,241 Speaker 2: But you know when I started with the USC, I 263 00:12:13,321 --> 00:12:15,881 Speaker 2: gave them the rights to have the CFC too. 264 00:12:16,721 --> 00:12:19,481 Speaker 3: That's why when you see when they came. 265 00:12:19,441 --> 00:12:21,801 Speaker 2: To Australia for the first in the second time, they 266 00:12:21,881 --> 00:12:25,321 Speaker 2: have everybody from every former CFC fighter in there. 267 00:12:25,761 --> 00:12:28,281 Speaker 1: Did you find it hard when you started off like 268 00:12:28,361 --> 00:12:31,321 Speaker 1: having fights here finding opponents or was it or did 269 00:12:31,321 --> 00:12:33,241 Speaker 1: you have to bring all your opponents from overseas? 270 00:12:33,601 --> 00:12:35,401 Speaker 2: It was super hard, you know. That's why they have 271 00:12:35,481 --> 00:12:37,481 Speaker 2: to pay them a lot of money. And obviously at 272 00:12:37,481 --> 00:12:40,401 Speaker 2: the time the USC fighters they didn't get paid. 273 00:12:40,521 --> 00:12:43,601 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the most they will get. 274 00:12:43,401 --> 00:12:46,561 Speaker 2: Paid probably would be eight ten thousand dollars and USC 275 00:12:46,601 --> 00:12:49,921 Speaker 2: we paid there in fifteen Whenny they will be dreaming, 276 00:12:50,001 --> 00:12:52,681 Speaker 2: you know, they we never got paid that anywhere. 277 00:12:53,401 --> 00:12:55,641 Speaker 1: You started making your name for yourself at the cage 278 00:12:55,641 --> 00:12:59,561 Speaker 1: fighting and then mostly for the UFC fighting. So from there, 279 00:12:59,721 --> 00:13:02,601 Speaker 1: what was it? Your MMA record was thirty six eleven two? 280 00:13:02,961 --> 00:13:04,001 Speaker 1: Is that correct? 281 00:13:04,561 --> 00:13:08,161 Speaker 3: It is because he's a little fight that I'm missing. 282 00:13:07,841 --> 00:13:09,561 Speaker 2: There, and also in a lot of fights that I 283 00:13:09,601 --> 00:13:12,881 Speaker 2: wanted and I lost, Like for example, like I remember 284 00:13:12,921 --> 00:13:16,281 Speaker 2: like Waters wrong. I thought the guy his name is 285 00:13:16,361 --> 00:13:20,521 Speaker 2: Chris Brown. He was a three times Olympian and three 286 00:13:20,641 --> 00:13:25,041 Speaker 2: times a d c C competitor. He was the only 287 00:13:25,081 --> 00:13:26,681 Speaker 2: guy who beat the Great Season and stuff and that 288 00:13:26,801 --> 00:13:29,121 Speaker 2: it was very well knowing it, and nobody wanted to 289 00:13:29,121 --> 00:13:29,481 Speaker 2: fight him. 290 00:13:29,921 --> 00:13:31,321 Speaker 3: So I said, like, yeah, I find this guy. Who 291 00:13:31,601 --> 00:13:33,921 Speaker 3: the fuck is this guy? You know? I fight and 292 00:13:33,961 --> 00:13:35,801 Speaker 3: he was kind of like a gunst kind of thing. 293 00:13:36,361 --> 00:13:38,481 Speaker 2: I said, like I care less about you, bro, and 294 00:13:38,521 --> 00:13:40,521 Speaker 2: I leckt him out in like three. 295 00:13:40,361 --> 00:13:43,041 Speaker 3: Seconds and they called the fight that I had by 296 00:13:43,081 --> 00:13:48,401 Speaker 3: him wow, and they called it at contest. Really yeah, 297 00:13:48,401 --> 00:13:50,321 Speaker 3: it's in my record, you see, like it's no concast. 298 00:13:50,321 --> 00:13:51,881 Speaker 2: But I knocked him out that's that could be a 299 00:13:51,921 --> 00:13:54,561 Speaker 2: win easy and like this to have so many. 300 00:13:55,161 --> 00:13:58,561 Speaker 1: What was the most precious win that you can remember? What, 301 00:13:58,561 --> 00:14:00,641 Speaker 1: what's the what's the most that fixed in your mind? 302 00:14:01,121 --> 00:14:04,361 Speaker 1: An opponent that you've beaten. I always gonna. 303 00:14:04,121 --> 00:14:07,321 Speaker 2: Say the most le opponent that that beat it was 304 00:14:07,361 --> 00:14:11,841 Speaker 2: Paula Harris because he was telling his team mates that 305 00:14:11,961 --> 00:14:14,361 Speaker 2: when he gave my leg, he's gonna break my leg. 306 00:14:15,001 --> 00:14:17,801 Speaker 3: And I was saying to him, like, motherfucker, you gotta 307 00:14:17,841 --> 00:14:22,041 Speaker 3: break my dick. That's what he's gonna do. And he 308 00:14:22,321 --> 00:14:22,841 Speaker 3: was choos. 309 00:14:23,401 --> 00:14:28,161 Speaker 2: He was juiced today today jus because his stop leg 310 00:14:28,321 --> 00:14:29,361 Speaker 2: was wear through the roof. 311 00:14:29,921 --> 00:14:31,641 Speaker 3: He got to spend it right after the fight. 312 00:14:32,321 --> 00:14:35,001 Speaker 1: So with the winds, I got sticks in your mind? 313 00:14:35,401 --> 00:14:38,481 Speaker 1: Which lost? Sticks in your mind the most that you 314 00:14:38,841 --> 00:14:41,121 Speaker 1: you kind of like, go, fuck that you didn't go 315 00:14:41,201 --> 00:14:42,961 Speaker 1: my way. I should have changed this, I should have 316 00:14:42,961 --> 00:14:45,921 Speaker 1: done that. Which which lost? There's been two losses. 317 00:14:46,601 --> 00:14:49,841 Speaker 3: The one with new money. I remember that I was 318 00:14:50,441 --> 00:14:55,321 Speaker 3: carrying forty forty seven pounds. I was scanning so much, weighing, 319 00:14:55,921 --> 00:14:56,161 Speaker 3: and I. 320 00:14:56,241 --> 00:14:59,921 Speaker 2: Remember every single time that I fight in Vegas, you 321 00:14:59,961 --> 00:15:03,401 Speaker 2: will see in America, I will recover the whole day 322 00:15:04,081 --> 00:15:07,401 Speaker 2: and I would sleep and I recover and at that 323 00:15:07,561 --> 00:15:09,561 Speaker 2: time I would have pulled back a lot of a 324 00:15:09,641 --> 00:15:13,321 Speaker 2: lot of waits. I'm in Australia, so they have to 325 00:15:13,481 --> 00:15:17,881 Speaker 2: air the fight in America in America time, so we 326 00:15:18,201 --> 00:15:20,241 Speaker 2: have to get up about five o'clock in the morning 327 00:15:21,121 --> 00:15:23,321 Speaker 2: and the fight start at night. 328 00:15:23,801 --> 00:15:26,921 Speaker 3: Wow, So we have to be at the venue at six. 329 00:15:28,081 --> 00:15:31,561 Speaker 2: When I went to the venue, I was fought and 330 00:15:31,641 --> 00:15:33,641 Speaker 2: I couldn't recover that of the way that I that 331 00:15:33,761 --> 00:15:36,361 Speaker 2: I lost the stuff for that, so they. 332 00:15:36,321 --> 00:15:38,361 Speaker 3: Didn't want people to do an IV. 333 00:15:39,161 --> 00:15:42,121 Speaker 2: We could the ship and I started having rebus right 334 00:15:42,881 --> 00:15:44,121 Speaker 2: and I have about six rebus. 335 00:15:45,161 --> 00:15:47,801 Speaker 3: The fight start and I. 336 00:15:47,961 --> 00:15:50,121 Speaker 2: Was prettised in the first round and I was gone 337 00:15:50,161 --> 00:15:52,201 Speaker 2: for it and I left. 338 00:15:52,121 --> 00:15:57,881 Speaker 3: Everything there and all that rebut came up the second round. 339 00:15:58,401 --> 00:16:01,641 Speaker 3: I was seeing the guy like four. I was dizzy 340 00:16:01,721 --> 00:16:03,721 Speaker 3: bro so I wish I could have I could have 341 00:16:03,841 --> 00:16:05,241 Speaker 3: a better wake up for the right. 342 00:16:05,681 --> 00:16:10,321 Speaker 2: And then I took a fight right away with Dan Henderson, 343 00:16:10,481 --> 00:16:12,841 Speaker 2: which is like another fight that I regret because I 344 00:16:12,881 --> 00:16:14,481 Speaker 2: should have taken him most seriously. 345 00:16:15,601 --> 00:16:16,601 Speaker 3: Everybody's like, oh. 346 00:16:16,801 --> 00:16:20,121 Speaker 2: He's getting older, Spoti five blah blah blah, and I 347 00:16:20,201 --> 00:16:22,481 Speaker 2: didn't even train for the guy, and I don't know 348 00:16:22,521 --> 00:16:24,241 Speaker 2: if you saw the fight, but I was winning him 349 00:16:24,281 --> 00:16:25,081 Speaker 2: easy and then. 350 00:16:25,721 --> 00:16:28,721 Speaker 3: Big eble from the back of the head and fucked me. 351 00:16:29,921 --> 00:16:32,841 Speaker 3: So this added tude fights that I truly regrett to. 352 00:16:34,521 --> 00:16:37,361 Speaker 1: Don't give me attention, you know, like, why do you 353 00:16:37,441 --> 00:16:40,001 Speaker 1: think for that second fight that you just said, why 354 00:16:40,081 --> 00:16:41,801 Speaker 1: do you think that you didn't train for it? Did 355 00:16:41,841 --> 00:16:44,441 Speaker 1: you have an attitude where you think I didn't need to. 356 00:16:44,921 --> 00:16:47,401 Speaker 2: It was basically because everybody was in my head like 357 00:16:47,481 --> 00:16:50,761 Speaker 2: other worries, old you know, you're being easy. 358 00:16:51,641 --> 00:16:54,641 Speaker 3: Never listen to nobody. Always listen to yourself. 359 00:16:55,001 --> 00:16:56,921 Speaker 1: So it's mostly your team telling you don't worry about it. 360 00:16:56,961 --> 00:16:57,321 Speaker 1: You've got this. 361 00:16:58,241 --> 00:17:03,001 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, supposibly think what would you say your trademark 362 00:17:03,161 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: was assos in there. 363 00:17:05,201 --> 00:17:08,041 Speaker 3: Truly truly regret who was getting. 364 00:17:07,801 --> 00:17:10,761 Speaker 2: Involved with the girl when I signed the content in 365 00:17:10,761 --> 00:17:14,241 Speaker 2: the US. Remember I was twenty five when that's what 366 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: they say. But it was like maybe City City one, 367 00:17:17,001 --> 00:17:19,281 Speaker 2: pree wings straight and I signed a huge contact with 368 00:17:19,281 --> 00:17:23,361 Speaker 2: the USC. Everybody has that expectation because I'm like two 369 00:17:23,521 --> 00:17:27,321 Speaker 2: times winner of the world title in the Bellotto the 370 00:17:27,441 --> 00:17:29,041 Speaker 2: Season tournament and two. 371 00:17:28,961 --> 00:17:33,041 Speaker 3: Times Bellatto, so I'm actually four times bell. I was 372 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 3: the CFC shopping, I was the AMC sharp being. I 373 00:17:35,561 --> 00:17:38,281 Speaker 3: was ald and I didn't lost the fight for like 374 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:38,921 Speaker 3: seven years. 375 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: I got in bout with this girl and I and 376 00:17:42,761 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: I remember like I'm three weeks before my first fight 377 00:17:46,561 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 2: in the US. 378 00:17:47,761 --> 00:17:50,241 Speaker 3: I was fighting Timbosh. I see being yep. 379 00:17:50,761 --> 00:17:55,321 Speaker 2: But anyways, I have signing autograph in Miami. We go 380 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: over it and some day I love the truck and 381 00:17:59,721 --> 00:18:01,761 Speaker 2: I have a lot of money, you know, like my 382 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:02,561 Speaker 2: back is full. 383 00:18:02,961 --> 00:18:03,881 Speaker 3: I said I gonna buy them. 384 00:18:04,041 --> 00:18:06,041 Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy the struy and she's like, oh, you know, 385 00:18:06,201 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: like we should buy a house first, she should buy 386 00:18:08,001 --> 00:18:08,481 Speaker 2: a house first. 387 00:18:09,321 --> 00:18:10,521 Speaker 3: I was like, listening, it's my money. 388 00:18:10,561 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: I did whatever. I want my money. 389 00:18:12,481 --> 00:18:15,161 Speaker 2: I want to buy me a truckle. So she's screaming 390 00:18:15,201 --> 00:18:19,241 Speaker 2: already and I went back. She's like started screaming at me, 391 00:18:19,321 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: and she said, like, you know why you signed this 392 00:18:22,241 --> 00:18:25,721 Speaker 2: big country at the USC. I said no, and she 393 00:18:25,801 --> 00:18:30,761 Speaker 2: goes because it's we bro thrust the whole truck and 394 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,761 Speaker 2: I started hitting my chest because of rum. Because the 395 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: fucking me. I fluctured my son, Oh I can't breathe. 396 00:18:41,521 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: I didn't know what the fucking SnO was. All I 397 00:18:44,001 --> 00:18:47,041 Speaker 2: know is like I couldn't breathe for those three weeks. 398 00:18:47,681 --> 00:18:49,161 Speaker 3: Wow, I got to the fight. 399 00:18:49,961 --> 00:18:52,001 Speaker 2: I still beat the guy, but I wasn't performing the 400 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,561 Speaker 2: way I always performed. Everybody has that expectation that was 401 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: going to Ko Tembosh. 402 00:18:58,001 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: I didn't. 403 00:18:58,561 --> 00:19:00,561 Speaker 3: But I still beat the guy, but they took the 404 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,481 Speaker 3: and from that day, you know, like it was just 405 00:19:04,681 --> 00:19:08,761 Speaker 3: like life was a roller coast, which is like my 406 00:19:08,921 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 3: biggest rigor in life is being in bout with the 407 00:19:11,761 --> 00:19:18,041 Speaker 3: person that didn't didn't have to in my life, because what. 408 00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:20,641 Speaker 1: The fuck do you think that if you'd have been 409 00:19:21,521 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: managed a lot better or by somebody else, that you 410 00:19:25,761 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: would have like even though you were up there at 411 00:19:28,521 --> 00:19:30,401 Speaker 1: the top of your peek, would you think you could 412 00:19:30,441 --> 00:19:32,401 Speaker 1: have gone a different direction for you in a different way. 413 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,201 Speaker 2: I think like I was relentless, right, I didn't listen 414 00:19:36,281 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: to nobody. I just didn't give a fuck. 415 00:19:38,521 --> 00:19:42,161 Speaker 3: But one thing that I had that was very important 416 00:19:42,281 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: for me, it was like I didn't have this struction. Yeah, 417 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 3: I didn't have a person that would have get in 418 00:19:47,961 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: my mind. Yeah she could get in my mind. She 419 00:19:51,321 --> 00:19:53,521 Speaker 3: could fucking get me pissed off. 420 00:19:54,321 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: It's a question for you, because now you've told me 421 00:19:56,441 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: all this, would you compare yourself to Mike Tyson? 422 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 3: It could be at one point because you went through 423 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 3: the same shit, But I do believe he. 424 00:20:04,681 --> 00:20:08,041 Speaker 2: Had like a lot of good people around him. I 425 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: didn't have anybody around me. 426 00:20:09,721 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 3: You know. It was me and her, and you know, 427 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,001 Speaker 3: she was like passy, being off all the time, and it. 428 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:19,521 Speaker 2: Was like and everybody up there they wanted they wanted 429 00:20:19,521 --> 00:20:20,321 Speaker 2: to see me losing. 430 00:20:20,521 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a roller coast, bro, it was a 431 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: roller coastal. 432 00:20:24,241 --> 00:20:26,241 Speaker 1: Did you ever think when you'll get to these points 433 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:27,961 Speaker 1: that you want to stop? 434 00:20:28,041 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 3: Now? 435 00:20:28,241 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: Did you want to give up? Were you over the sport? 436 00:20:31,281 --> 00:20:34,321 Speaker 2: Bro? I wanted to even have myself because it was 437 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 2: I couldn't figure it out because my life was simple. 438 00:20:39,521 --> 00:20:42,761 Speaker 3: My life was like train eat sleep. 439 00:20:43,321 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 2: I would want to funk around, but I didn't have 440 00:20:45,921 --> 00:20:49,041 Speaker 2: like that pressure. The minute that I got about with her, 441 00:20:49,961 --> 00:20:52,761 Speaker 2: she wanted this, she wanted that, she wanted this, She 442 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,281 Speaker 2: wanted to go here, she wanted to do this. 443 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,081 Speaker 3: So she took me away from the ship. 444 00:20:57,961 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: That I liked. 445 00:20:58,441 --> 00:21:01,201 Speaker 2: It was just trained fight or when I got back 446 00:21:01,241 --> 00:21:04,721 Speaker 2: and I said, she it wasn't she it was me 447 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 2: that was. 448 00:21:05,441 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 3: Weak enough to follow her. That's why I don't do 449 00:21:09,721 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 3: the fuck anymore. 450 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: So do you reckon? Some of the fights that you 451 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: lost were corrupted all the time. 452 00:21:18,721 --> 00:21:21,441 Speaker 2: Let me tell you soon you were seeing Beta way 453 00:21:22,441 --> 00:21:25,481 Speaker 2: fighting no now but before ye yeah. 454 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:31,841 Speaker 3: The person that it was me, they might ties may 455 00:21:32,441 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 3: it was the strategy. 456 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,241 Speaker 2: You knock this guy out, you may get loose bush 457 00:21:37,281 --> 00:21:39,521 Speaker 2: of times, the whole group and his ship. 458 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 3: And look, listen, I don't blake it was fucking as 459 00:21:44,201 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 3: smart as fuck. I would have had it too. 460 00:21:51,481 --> 00:21:55,721 Speaker 1: So do you think now you fought in Australia and 461 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: America's massively UFC like you can't beat it? Do you 462 00:21:59,801 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: see a big gap between the two countries when it 463 00:22:02,481 --> 00:22:03,721 Speaker 1: comes to UFC fighters? 464 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,041 Speaker 2: Do you remember one day I said to the press 465 00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: a long time ago, Australian's gotta be the best fighters. 466 00:22:13,321 --> 00:22:13,801 Speaker 3: Think about it. 467 00:22:14,281 --> 00:22:18,601 Speaker 2: Roopy is a fucking hardcore sport and it's very similar. 468 00:22:19,041 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 3: The only thing that you don't do with is poch 469 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 3: like full But do you see, and. 470 00:22:26,561 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: It's Comptter's a lot of fitness in it, it's a 471 00:22:31,481 --> 00:22:34,041 Speaker 2: lot of strength in it. All you gotta do is 472 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 2: just like share a couple of films and made this 473 00:22:36,761 --> 00:22:37,881 Speaker 2: motherfuckers fucking fight. 474 00:22:38,521 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 3: The sport is basically MM running. Roopy is EMMA running. 475 00:22:44,801 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: I know a lot of fighters who are who are 476 00:22:46,481 --> 00:22:49,761 Speaker 1: doing M M A over here, and you know they're good, 477 00:22:50,001 --> 00:22:52,241 Speaker 1: but they can't get to the next level. So and 478 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:56,641 Speaker 1: the finances that backed them for fights, there's nothing there. 479 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: So what happens to them is these good fighters who 480 00:23:00,241 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: are coming through the ranks because they're not getting paid 481 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,961 Speaker 1: and off or not not getting seen and up getting 482 00:23:06,001 --> 00:23:09,281 Speaker 1: corrupted and going to the underworld or going to work 483 00:23:09,681 --> 00:23:11,801 Speaker 1: for gangs because they can't, or going down to a 484 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,881 Speaker 1: drug dealing or going to importal or knocking on doors 485 00:23:14,921 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: to punch people. That's where we're losing a lot of 486 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,561 Speaker 1: fighters because they can't they can't afford it. 487 00:23:19,921 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 3: Think about it. 488 00:23:20,801 --> 00:23:26,721 Speaker 2: Am Australi has a population of twenty four minutes. 489 00:23:26,441 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah, twenty four million. Yeah, yeah, you have. 490 00:23:29,561 --> 00:23:33,561 Speaker 3: Four champions already, they're being UC champions. Right. 491 00:23:33,721 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: You got Mandelena, Yeah, you got Alex, you got I'm 492 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:43,401 Speaker 2: missing one more right Anyways, no other place except Brazil 493 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:45,481 Speaker 2: has that many champions. 494 00:23:45,801 --> 00:23:49,001 Speaker 3: So you got us Brazil that Brazil is. 495 00:23:49,001 --> 00:23:53,001 Speaker 2: Started yep, and Australia as you know, starting where we 496 00:23:53,201 --> 00:23:58,201 Speaker 2: started the CFCs started. Yep, so's the shortest on time 497 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,441 Speaker 2: with a less population. 498 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,681 Speaker 3: And it has their own champions. Is it prosiss Yeah? 499 00:24:03,681 --> 00:24:05,961 Speaker 1: But it impressive though, But hey, you gotta look at it. 500 00:24:06,201 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: To get to get to where these champions are, they've 501 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,401 Speaker 1: got to go through their stages and all you see 502 00:24:11,441 --> 00:24:13,521 Speaker 1: is them. A lot of them are going through like 503 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: emotions because they can't go to the next level. I 504 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:18,801 Speaker 1: know about maybe three or four of them who are 505 00:24:18,921 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: so good, but they can't get to the next level 506 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,721 Speaker 1: because one, finances are not good for them, or they're 507 00:24:23,761 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: not managed properly, or there's no fighters, so they have 508 00:24:26,281 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: to go to Thailand to fight because they can't afford 509 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,801 Speaker 1: to go to America, you know what I mean. And 510 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: that's where the money is. 511 00:24:32,441 --> 00:24:35,001 Speaker 2: I mean, it's still for me kind of like a 512 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 2: hell of results already because there's nowhere else, you know, 513 00:24:41,521 --> 00:24:44,321 Speaker 2: I said, like you know, like now you gotta cab. 514 00:24:44,921 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, but these guys, they fucking have a lot of 515 00:24:48,921 --> 00:24:49,801 Speaker 3: money behind yea. 516 00:24:50,481 --> 00:24:54,481 Speaker 2: They have all these sold the money, they have amazing facilities. 517 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,521 Speaker 2: They have a big backup, you know, like unless the 518 00:24:58,801 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: government have the support like they do have the support. 519 00:25:03,481 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: It's gotta be hard, Oh yeah, very hard. Off off 520 00:25:06,961 --> 00:25:10,281 Speaker 1: the topic of all the sports that you've done, all 521 00:25:10,321 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: these fighting sports that you've done, kickboxing, judo, which one 522 00:25:14,801 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: do you enjoy the most? Because I even seen you 523 00:25:16,921 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: did knuckle fighting, like you've done a lot. Which one 524 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:21,201 Speaker 1: did you enjoy the most? 525 00:25:22,281 --> 00:25:25,801 Speaker 3: I'm going back to judo. The best. Judo is the 526 00:25:25,921 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 3: most complete and the best combat sport. 527 00:25:29,721 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: In the whole world. 528 00:25:30,921 --> 00:25:34,241 Speaker 3: Okay, And yeah, I know, like I say, judo as 529 00:25:35,961 --> 00:25:37,161 Speaker 3: people fighting with piamas. 530 00:25:37,241 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: But do you think why hey do? Because you know what, 531 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: I'll say this, I've watched judo before, okay, and my 532 00:25:47,481 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: my uncles used to do judo. All I used to 533 00:25:49,721 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: see them do is roll around on the fucking mats. 534 00:25:52,041 --> 00:25:54,001 Speaker 1: That's all I used to see them doing. I can't 535 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: I can't get excited on this. I can't get excited 536 00:25:56,281 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: because it's rolling around on a fucking mat. That's rolling 537 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,481 Speaker 1: around on a mat mate. I want to see something. 538 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,641 Speaker 1: But then, but then again, it took me a long 539 00:26:07,801 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: time to enjoy UFC because I love boxing. I love it, 540 00:26:12,521 --> 00:26:15,481 Speaker 1: Mike Tyson, you know, I mean Evander Holyfield. I used 541 00:26:15,521 --> 00:26:18,641 Speaker 1: to love that eraror of boxing. And then UFC came 542 00:26:18,681 --> 00:26:20,961 Speaker 1: along and it was very hard for me to enjoy 543 00:26:21,001 --> 00:26:23,441 Speaker 1: it because, yeah, it was trying to take over boxing, 544 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,321 Speaker 1: but you know, I didn't know the fighters that well, 545 00:26:26,441 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: and I just I'm old school. I just love the boxing. 546 00:26:29,681 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: That's it. 547 00:26:30,961 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 3: This is this is what I always say to a 548 00:26:33,201 --> 00:26:36,481 Speaker 3: lot of people. You gotta do it to like it. 549 00:26:36,761 --> 00:26:40,441 Speaker 2: Yeah, like at one point, at one point you whether 550 00:26:40,561 --> 00:26:46,201 Speaker 2: you try JJ or whether you try rambling, and then 551 00:26:46,281 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 2: you see how hard it is and then you're like, wow, 552 00:26:49,001 --> 00:26:52,521 Speaker 2: you know this is no they and. 553 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,041 Speaker 3: Then you start appreciating it. It's the same with me. 554 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 3: With you, it's so hard that I do appreciate too. 555 00:27:00,961 --> 00:27:02,961 Speaker 1: There was this one that I forgot to bring it 556 00:27:03,041 --> 00:27:05,401 Speaker 1: up before. I don't know if you did bring it before, 557 00:27:05,441 --> 00:27:07,281 Speaker 1: But once you were disqualified, it was not the fight 558 00:27:07,321 --> 00:27:09,281 Speaker 1: you was told about before. You where you disqualified in 559 00:27:09,321 --> 00:27:13,321 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, in the UFC twenty twenty two against Dollaway 560 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, you were you were disqualified for hitting 561 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:18,321 Speaker 1: them after the bell went off. 562 00:27:19,201 --> 00:27:24,521 Speaker 3: I was bushy. If you really see the fight I'm 563 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 3: posing and the bell rings. 564 00:27:27,481 --> 00:27:31,801 Speaker 2: Now when you look the fight, the bell rings and 565 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,801 Speaker 2: now I'm posing. I stayed away from my ex and 566 00:27:36,921 --> 00:27:38,601 Speaker 2: I said to myself, you know what, I gotta pull 567 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: my shit together. Let me get back on truck. I 568 00:27:42,801 --> 00:27:46,441 Speaker 2: went down to one seventy, I was getting forty five. 569 00:27:46,521 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 2: Found I didn't give a fuck. I want to renew myself. 570 00:27:50,281 --> 00:27:53,881 Speaker 2: My first fight was seventy. It was a name Aquad. 571 00:27:54,321 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: He was two times Tyle challenger. He lost against Andress 572 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,001 Speaker 2: Silver and Na came out in the first round. Then 573 00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:05,321 Speaker 2: it took me like a year to get around fight. 574 00:28:06,321 --> 00:28:10,561 Speaker 2: And then if Jashu Jeffreel. Jeffreu was the number four, 575 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 2: and they told Jeff because you don't want to fight me, 576 00:28:14,761 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 2: if you be hector, you gotta fight for the title. 577 00:28:17,961 --> 00:28:21,641 Speaker 2: I'm betting easy. And to me now almost two years 578 00:28:21,681 --> 00:28:22,201 Speaker 2: to get a fight. 579 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 3: Wow. 580 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:29,641 Speaker 2: So they signed somebody from another organization, the Chaffield. 581 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 3: Of w w s F to fight me. 582 00:28:32,921 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: I'm bidding and they I'm a scared you to fight 583 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,761 Speaker 2: Roddy mcdonnald. I'm the week of the fight, they say, listen, 584 00:28:42,841 --> 00:28:45,961 Speaker 2: you got suspend it like you your last fight. You 585 00:28:46,081 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: said the positive and I'm like, prose be from us already, 586 00:28:50,441 --> 00:28:51,801 Speaker 2: I'm scared to fight Roddy. 587 00:28:53,241 --> 00:28:54,801 Speaker 3: Now you got suspend it? 588 00:28:56,041 --> 00:28:58,641 Speaker 1: Wow, So what coach? What goes through your mind? Then 589 00:28:58,681 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: when you're suspended? What goes through your mind? Oh? 590 00:29:00,801 --> 00:29:04,481 Speaker 3: You know what you do? Being allowed? How to bear 591 00:29:04,521 --> 00:29:06,241 Speaker 3: their homeless one hundreds of thousands of dollars? 592 00:29:06,961 --> 00:29:08,041 Speaker 1: Do you find another sport? 593 00:29:08,361 --> 00:29:08,401 Speaker 3: Like? 594 00:29:08,481 --> 00:29:11,321 Speaker 1: Do you think, Okay, I'm going to do a different 595 00:29:11,361 --> 00:29:12,961 Speaker 1: sport now because you're not suspended from it, or you 596 00:29:13,441 --> 00:29:15,321 Speaker 1: or you just suspended from all sports? 597 00:29:16,081 --> 00:29:19,241 Speaker 3: Where you are to spend it? All comes pots Jesus Christ. 598 00:29:19,721 --> 00:29:21,921 Speaker 1: When you came back though, were you ready? Were you 599 00:29:22,001 --> 00:29:22,681 Speaker 1: a different person? 600 00:29:23,721 --> 00:29:27,241 Speaker 2: Now? You get fucked because you're getting anybody to say, like, oh, 601 00:29:27,361 --> 00:29:28,641 Speaker 2: you using asteroids? 602 00:29:29,361 --> 00:29:32,681 Speaker 3: I had to cut I had to cut fifty pounds. 603 00:29:32,961 --> 00:29:35,601 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you take just a little bit of asteroids, 604 00:29:35,721 --> 00:29:39,561 Speaker 2: you never might gotta make weight. Yeah, because asteroids make 605 00:29:39,641 --> 00:29:42,801 Speaker 2: you build muscle. I'm trying to lose muscle because I'm 606 00:29:42,841 --> 00:29:46,081 Speaker 2: not sad of me. It's it's big a journey. 607 00:29:47,281 --> 00:29:50,401 Speaker 1: Because of your name, because of like you, of who 608 00:29:50,481 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: you are, and you were virtually feeding the ring. Were 609 00:29:53,281 --> 00:29:56,441 Speaker 1: you ever enticed by people out the ring to work 610 00:29:56,481 --> 00:29:59,721 Speaker 1: for them because of your presence? Because I like you know, 611 00:29:59,761 --> 00:30:01,241 Speaker 1: I mean, I know a lot of people in the 612 00:30:01,321 --> 00:30:03,921 Speaker 1: ring who are enticed, you know, like you to give 613 00:30:04,121 --> 00:30:06,561 Speaker 1: an envelope and go, you know, be my bodyguard, be 614 00:30:06,721 --> 00:30:08,481 Speaker 1: this for me, do this for me, wait for me. 615 00:30:08,841 --> 00:30:10,761 Speaker 1: Will you ever enticed that way? Or that no one 616 00:30:10,801 --> 00:30:11,801 Speaker 1: would approach you that way? 617 00:30:12,521 --> 00:30:14,801 Speaker 2: I feel like it was being a lot of jealousy 618 00:30:15,841 --> 00:30:18,281 Speaker 2: and they will always trying to send me up. Okay 619 00:30:19,201 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: about like enticing me and all that. I'm open for that, 620 00:30:24,281 --> 00:30:27,801 Speaker 2: but never happened. Wow, that's surprised me. All I know 621 00:30:28,001 --> 00:30:30,841 Speaker 2: is like they would try to play those dirty games 622 00:30:31,241 --> 00:30:31,521 Speaker 2: on me. 623 00:30:32,001 --> 00:30:34,001 Speaker 1: Yeah, why did you leave Australia. 624 00:30:35,201 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: I mean I would say that I leave Australia. I 625 00:30:37,641 --> 00:30:40,121 Speaker 2: just feel like it's a lot more opportunity here in 626 00:30:40,161 --> 00:30:43,921 Speaker 2: America when it comes to fighting, right, Yeah, I love 627 00:30:43,961 --> 00:30:47,201 Speaker 2: Australia and I'm never saying any interviews. 628 00:30:46,761 --> 00:30:50,641 Speaker 3: That I just like Australian. I just feel like, you know, 629 00:30:50,721 --> 00:30:54,081 Speaker 3: when you feel, when you feel, and you you can 630 00:30:54,201 --> 00:30:58,961 Speaker 3: be a very proues sample of this when my vigration Alie, 631 00:30:59,601 --> 00:31:00,081 Speaker 3: I feel it. 632 00:31:00,601 --> 00:31:04,801 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm pull you asking assumpthing right you English guys, yep, 633 00:31:05,321 --> 00:31:06,681 Speaker 2: where you came to Australia. 634 00:31:06,841 --> 00:31:08,401 Speaker 3: Do you feel like, fuck, this. 635 00:31:08,561 --> 00:31:12,441 Speaker 1: Is my place at the time, No, because I felt 636 00:31:12,481 --> 00:31:14,001 Speaker 1: Australia was ten years behind England. 637 00:31:14,401 --> 00:31:15,801 Speaker 3: So you didn't you didn't have that feeling. 638 00:31:16,081 --> 00:31:18,081 Speaker 1: Now. It took me. It took me about four years 639 00:31:18,121 --> 00:31:21,041 Speaker 1: to get that feeling. Four years. It's very hard for 640 00:31:21,121 --> 00:31:23,201 Speaker 1: me when I came to Australia, very hard because I've 641 00:31:23,281 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: come from England. I came from a big city in 642 00:31:25,521 --> 00:31:29,761 Speaker 1: England to a small city of Wollongong and Sydney, and 643 00:31:29,881 --> 00:31:32,961 Speaker 1: I just felt, wow, this is ten years backwards. What 644 00:31:33,081 --> 00:31:35,721 Speaker 1: the fuck am I doing? And back then, back then, 645 00:31:36,361 --> 00:31:39,441 Speaker 1: not many Australians liked English people, so I found it hard. 646 00:31:40,201 --> 00:31:41,881 Speaker 3: Wow how many? How you got used to it. 647 00:31:42,481 --> 00:31:45,681 Speaker 1: Because I started doing the sport that I loved, So 648 00:31:45,761 --> 00:31:48,921 Speaker 1: I started. I got into soccer, I got I got 649 00:31:49,001 --> 00:31:51,561 Speaker 1: signed up, I started playing. I made friends and they 650 00:31:51,641 --> 00:31:54,721 Speaker 1: became very close friends. So that calmed me down. Once 651 00:31:54,841 --> 00:31:57,521 Speaker 1: I was calm and I was comfortable, then I could 652 00:31:57,681 --> 00:32:00,921 Speaker 1: enjoy Sydney and Australia. But until then I was now, 653 00:32:00,961 --> 00:32:03,361 Speaker 1: I want to go home. I'm homesick. I fucking hated here. 654 00:32:03,481 --> 00:32:07,921 Speaker 1: It's fucking disgusting. Where are you Liverpool? So I'm from 655 00:32:07,961 --> 00:32:09,801 Speaker 1: the rough part you know what I mean. Like it's 656 00:32:09,841 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: a it's a rough upbringing a city, but. 657 00:32:12,481 --> 00:32:16,241 Speaker 4: It's a they're very tight people. Yes, they're very tight. Yeah, 658 00:32:16,561 --> 00:32:21,681 Speaker 4: I'm like Paddy, they're like this. Yeah, yeah, very they're close. 659 00:32:21,761 --> 00:32:23,921 Speaker 4: They like they create like a union. 660 00:32:24,121 --> 00:32:27,561 Speaker 1: Correct. Correct. So when I came here, I had nobody. 661 00:32:27,641 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: I had nobody here and it was hard for me. 662 00:32:30,001 --> 00:32:31,961 Speaker 1: So yeah, it took me a while, but now I 663 00:32:32,041 --> 00:32:33,561 Speaker 1: love it. This is my home. I don't go back 664 00:32:33,601 --> 00:32:36,081 Speaker 1: to England anymore. I haven't been back for over fifteen years. 665 00:32:36,521 --> 00:32:38,561 Speaker 1: I don't want to go back. There's nothing there for me. 666 00:32:38,681 --> 00:32:41,681 Speaker 3: I went back to England no ago. Yeah, I hate 667 00:32:41,721 --> 00:32:42,961 Speaker 3: it same. 668 00:32:43,481 --> 00:32:44,641 Speaker 1: It's fucking disgusting, bro. 669 00:32:45,361 --> 00:32:51,681 Speaker 3: It's so reasonable. It is every sort of for every 670 00:32:51,801 --> 00:32:52,521 Speaker 3: person up there. 671 00:32:58,041 --> 00:32:59,601 Speaker 1: Did you make a lot of friends while you were 672 00:32:59,601 --> 00:33:00,321 Speaker 1: here in Australia. 673 00:33:00,921 --> 00:33:02,121 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I had a ton of. 674 00:33:02,121 --> 00:33:05,921 Speaker 2: Friends, especially back in the days, even that they were 675 00:33:05,961 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: in my friends. But they will act like my friends, 676 00:33:08,801 --> 00:33:11,241 Speaker 2: you get me. Like, so I feel that comfortable because 677 00:33:11,761 --> 00:33:18,121 Speaker 2: even if it was fake, I'm weel okay, you get 678 00:33:18,201 --> 00:33:18,601 Speaker 2: what I say. 679 00:33:23,841 --> 00:33:25,161 Speaker 1: Do you ever think you'll come back here? 680 00:33:26,401 --> 00:33:31,401 Speaker 3: I do believe if your don't have a motive, right, 681 00:33:31,561 --> 00:33:32,521 Speaker 3: they have to be a motive. 682 00:33:32,801 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 2: They have to be for example, like maybe fishing at 683 00:33:38,001 --> 00:33:39,001 Speaker 2: a big school. 684 00:33:39,721 --> 00:33:41,281 Speaker 3: Or opponent, some symbol. 685 00:33:43,601 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 2: Whether it's Australia, where it's America, where you want. 686 00:33:47,321 --> 00:33:51,761 Speaker 3: To apport to society, if you had known nothing. 687 00:33:51,561 --> 00:33:54,121 Speaker 2: To give to the shady, there's don used to be there, 688 00:33:54,481 --> 00:33:58,841 Speaker 2: Whether it's Australia, where there's England, where there is whatever. 689 00:33:58,641 --> 00:33:59,161 Speaker 3: The funk it is. 690 00:33:59,521 --> 00:34:02,761 Speaker 2: You have to have a motive and the most important 691 00:34:02,921 --> 00:34:06,481 Speaker 2: helping other people, because that's what we're here for. That's 692 00:34:06,521 --> 00:34:08,801 Speaker 2: the reality of life. Other than that, I don't see 693 00:34:08,841 --> 00:34:11,721 Speaker 2: I don't see myself going. I always I could have 694 00:34:11,881 --> 00:34:16,321 Speaker 2: a gym and plain people and and and help society 695 00:34:16,521 --> 00:34:17,281 Speaker 2: with somehow. 696 00:34:18,001 --> 00:34:20,121 Speaker 3: But if you just gotta go us to be a bump, 697 00:34:20,721 --> 00:34:21,401 Speaker 3: I'll not say it. 698 00:34:21,481 --> 00:34:21,561 Speaker 2: Bro. 699 00:34:22,201 --> 00:34:24,481 Speaker 1: What's the future hold for heck a lumbard? 700 00:34:25,521 --> 00:34:28,921 Speaker 2: There's two things in my mind. I have to finish 701 00:34:29,201 --> 00:34:33,281 Speaker 2: being an inventor, a famous one. I don't want to 702 00:34:33,361 --> 00:34:36,721 Speaker 2: be like I wish inventor. I want to be like 703 00:34:36,841 --> 00:34:41,721 Speaker 2: a like a very famous inventor. It's funny because I 704 00:34:41,761 --> 00:34:44,281 Speaker 2: gave I gave one of these to Tony. 705 00:34:45,321 --> 00:34:49,921 Speaker 3: Let me bring you one this for you? You beat 706 00:34:50,001 --> 00:34:56,561 Speaker 3: the powder. Yeah, oh yeah, that any power. That's cool. 707 00:34:56,801 --> 00:34:59,721 Speaker 2: So let's say, for sample, you are soccer, right and 708 00:34:59,841 --> 00:35:02,721 Speaker 2: you have your water bottle, you get. 709 00:35:02,681 --> 00:35:07,841 Speaker 3: Some supplement whatever. Yeah pure you here shady? 710 00:35:10,441 --> 00:35:12,481 Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. What's a brand called? 711 00:35:12,521 --> 00:35:13,561 Speaker 3: But I have so many investors. 712 00:35:13,601 --> 00:35:16,001 Speaker 1: I have seventeen seventeen. 713 00:35:15,921 --> 00:35:19,041 Speaker 3: I have seventeen of this bloody yell? So is that 714 00:35:19,281 --> 00:35:19,721 Speaker 3: is that? Is that? 715 00:35:19,841 --> 00:35:21,641 Speaker 1: What your your aim is for the future? 716 00:35:22,041 --> 00:35:25,721 Speaker 3: That is my goal, my god, is to be very famous. 717 00:35:25,721 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: Invent what you do? Would you invent anything to change 718 00:35:28,521 --> 00:35:29,001 Speaker 1: in the sport? 719 00:35:29,601 --> 00:35:33,841 Speaker 2: Anything that you Let's say right now, right, you come 720 00:35:33,921 --> 00:35:38,961 Speaker 2: to sourcing, you and you said, Hector, I want you 721 00:35:39,081 --> 00:35:42,001 Speaker 2: to invent me sourcing full soccer. 722 00:35:42,641 --> 00:35:46,881 Speaker 3: And I'll be like, what do you want? Choose anything? 723 00:35:47,561 --> 00:35:49,921 Speaker 3: You pick it and I would invent it for you. 724 00:35:51,001 --> 00:35:55,081 Speaker 1: Oh wow, my mind, My mind is like I just. 725 00:35:55,161 --> 00:35:56,201 Speaker 3: To think about shared that. 726 00:35:56,321 --> 00:35:59,281 Speaker 1: Nobody thinks, can you invent something to get me bigger biceps? 727 00:36:00,921 --> 00:36:02,641 Speaker 1: Just like he ain't working for me. 728 00:36:07,601 --> 00:36:13,001 Speaker 3: I can't ben the always think about this. The basis 729 00:36:13,161 --> 00:36:14,161 Speaker 3: is only going to be for you. 730 00:36:16,041 --> 00:36:18,441 Speaker 2: You know how to make money, you gotta event, so 731 00:36:18,641 --> 00:36:22,041 Speaker 2: things like this that is what everybody for everybody and 732 00:36:22,081 --> 00:36:24,161 Speaker 2: that's how you made the money. Because at the end 733 00:36:24,161 --> 00:36:27,481 Speaker 2: of the day, with two hundred million dollars, you don't 734 00:36:27,481 --> 00:36:32,321 Speaker 2: give a talk about big basic right, think about it. 735 00:36:32,441 --> 00:36:37,041 Speaker 2: Who gets the pro you can be on fat Nobody cares. 736 00:36:38,481 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 3: We need to make the money. 737 00:36:39,721 --> 00:36:46,121 Speaker 1: Oh God, for real, it's true. 738 00:36:46,241 --> 00:36:47,361 Speaker 3: It's true, it's true. 739 00:36:48,881 --> 00:36:50,841 Speaker 1: What's your what's your biggest regret? 740 00:36:51,961 --> 00:36:55,361 Speaker 3: It's funny that you mentioned me. This my biggest my 741 00:36:55,481 --> 00:36:56,321 Speaker 3: biggest grade. 742 00:36:56,361 --> 00:36:59,441 Speaker 2: I already told you to be inbound with the women 743 00:36:59,601 --> 00:37:01,641 Speaker 2: that was in along with me, and I lost a 744 00:37:01,681 --> 00:37:06,721 Speaker 2: lot of opportunity. Now moving forward, my biggest regret is 745 00:37:06,801 --> 00:37:10,561 Speaker 2: always gonna be so seeing that I didn't try and 746 00:37:10,721 --> 00:37:17,161 Speaker 2: as you see at the bandacle Judy BJJ all kind 747 00:37:17,201 --> 00:37:22,801 Speaker 2: of bachelort there evokes seeing all though I supposed multi everything, 748 00:37:23,681 --> 00:37:26,201 Speaker 2: and my biggest real grade, it's always going to be 749 00:37:26,481 --> 00:37:29,521 Speaker 2: associe that I never did because at the end of 750 00:37:29,561 --> 00:37:32,521 Speaker 2: the day, we're living in the spirits, right, life is 751 00:37:32,601 --> 00:37:36,601 Speaker 2: the spirits, and tomorrow when you get old, nobody got 752 00:37:36,721 --> 00:37:38,321 Speaker 2: to give a fuck about if you win or lose 753 00:37:38,401 --> 00:37:41,041 Speaker 2: or whatever is the things that you didn't try. 754 00:37:41,601 --> 00:37:43,481 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for that, thank you, thank you, thank 755 00:37:43,521 --> 00:37:46,561 Speaker 1: you for everything. Today heck, I appreciate it the whole thing. 756 00:37:47,001 --> 00:37:47,641 Speaker 3: I appreciate it