Speaker 1: And you know how I talk about Melbourne like I
Speaker 1: make friends with all my baristas.
Speaker 2: But we're here, they're Maybe it depends where you go.
Speaker 1: I need to expand she should go.
Speaker 3: Out to Seatown, Cambeltown, Becker's from. I was born there
Speaker 3: and I grew up there.
Speaker 2: Wait, you were born.
Speaker 3: There Hambletown and I grew up in Claymore until I
Speaker 3: was you.
Speaker 2: Grew up in Claymore, I didn't know the Maddy law
Speaker 2: Like yes.
Speaker 3: And then we moved to eager Veil Kerns.
Speaker 2: What the heck?
Speaker 3: My family still live in BOBOI.
Speaker 1: In anyway, No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Where did you grow up in Campbeltown?
Speaker 2: No? I grew up in Lima, Lima.
Speaker 3: I lived in Minto and also like I remember Escot
Speaker 3: Park Public School because I used to steal the teacher's cookies.
Speaker 1: Welcome to first things First, I'm brookletting my pronouns as
Speaker 1: she and.
Speaker 3: Huh, I'm Maddy. Mil was my pronouns are hand him.
Speaker 3: And before we get started, we'd like to acknowledge the
Speaker 3: custodians of the land on which we're recording. And today
Speaker 3: for both of us we're in the studio, it's the gadigil.
Speaker 3: People of the urination don't get used to it. I
Speaker 3: am getting used to it, and you need to stay Okay,
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Speaker 1: Let's get into it.
Speaker 3: It's funny because this episode we have an incredible guest
Speaker 3: who was recently lived in Sydney and worked in Sydney,
Speaker 3: but has recently moved to Melbourne, so you more of
Speaker 3: a swapping places. Brooks meet to Sydney and the wonderful
Speaker 3: Becker Hatch from tell Us the postcode.
Speaker 2: Hello two F six.
Speaker 1: Best six is back home.
Speaker 3: Oh well, let's welcome the wonderful Becker Hatch.
Speaker 2: I'm good, thanks for having me today, Thanks for coming in.
Speaker 1: We were so excited. I mean, I feel like our
Speaker 1: paths have like cross but like not fully actually probably.
Speaker 2: Met yes podcast and like you just happened to be
Speaker 2: in Sydney and now I'm in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: I would have been there in studio and I'm sad
Speaker 1: and missing out, but it's actually so excited to have
Speaker 1: you here. Yeah. I think I last saw you perform.
Speaker 1: I think it was like one of the fashion shows
Speaker 1: in Melbourne and sligh You're wearing this fucking bomb ass outfit.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I'm hoping she has that because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna borrow it. Like it was like these cargo
Speaker 1: kind of pants and like it was, Oh, your fashion
Speaker 1: d is insane.
Speaker 2: That was like my favorite show I think I've played
Speaker 2: in like a long time. I was like I really
Speaker 2: had to like channel this energy when I was coming
Speaker 2: out there. But yeah, that designer, her name is Curran,
Speaker 2: and she's like, yeah, she's the first nation designer. She's
Speaker 2: actually really young. I think she's like in her twenties,
Speaker 2: and she's really cool. She makes like all her clothes
Speaker 2: from like recycled fabrics. So when I was like talking
Speaker 2: to her about it, she's like, yeah, you know, like
Speaker 2: I'd be like driving out to this couch on the
Speaker 2: side of the road and I'd be like, oh, that's
Speaker 2: really cool, and I would like rip up all the
Speaker 2: fabric and like wash it and like it into this
Speaker 2: really crazy like these pieces that were really sick.
Speaker 3: So what council pick up.
Speaker 1: So sustainable? Like we should We've been doing it for years.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like that gets so lost totally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm so glad that it's being introduced into fashion
Speaker 1: and like mob get to like wear it and like
Speaker 1: showcase it because it's not just like do you feel
Speaker 1: like this also a lot of pressure to walk down
Speaker 1: a runway, perform seeing and also look good for exactly
Speaker 1: I'm my girl Trifector. Like I could not, we could never.
Speaker 3: I mean I did one runway like a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago, and I called my agent straight after and
Speaker 3: I was like never doing that again.
Speaker 1: And he killed it. No, he did say it.
Speaker 3: I literally caught it was like, great, thanks for the money,
Speaker 3: but I don't want to do this ever again. So
Speaker 3: tell us that moment. Obviously a favorite memory of yours
Speaker 3: in terms of performing. What was it about that energy
Speaker 3: that you know you channeled that made us so great?
Speaker 2: I was like channeling some like in a little gay
Speaker 2: boy energy.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was some choice of arm vibes. Like that's
Speaker 2: what I had to go into mentally. No, but like
Speaker 2: I don't know, I guess a lot of performers would
Speaker 2: probably like relate when I say this. It's like when
Speaker 2: you go out and you give your one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: like you're all and you're like giving so much energy
Speaker 2: and you see the people give back so much energy.
Speaker 2: It like gives you like an adrenaline rush, and it like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how to explain it, but it's like
Speaker 2: it's something so far away from like just being a
Speaker 2: normal person. It just feels like you're elevated, like you're
Speaker 2: somewhere else for like that kind of moment, and you
Speaker 2: create this like space where you're like I'm able to
Speaker 2: share and people are receiving this, and there's so much
Speaker 2: love and joy and like happiness. Like I don't know
Speaker 2: how else to explain it, but like, isn't.
Speaker 3: Hard to get there on every performance? Is it one
Speaker 3: of those things where it's like, yeah, you will find
Speaker 3: it in pockets of your career where you're feeling like
Speaker 3: everything has aligned. Yeah, it's not every day.
Speaker 2: No, it's not every day, Like especially man, if I
Speaker 2: could tell you the shows I've played some of it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like giving one hundred percent and people were just staring
Speaker 2: at you like.
Speaker 1: This giving character building.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, character building and those moments really teach you.
Speaker 2: I guess you kind of separate yourself and you're like, well,
Speaker 2: I why do I do music. I don't do music
Speaker 2: to just be like, oh for you guys to enjoy this.
Speaker 2: I do music for me and I do music for
Speaker 2: my mob, And you know it really makes you like
Speaker 2: come into this with like a different perspective. Or if
Speaker 2: they're not going to give me one hundred percent, I'm
Speaker 2: still gonna give a hundred percent. I'm still going to
Speaker 2: give my Also, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Was gonna say, talking about your mom, who is your mob?
Speaker 1: And where did you come from? And I guess, like
Speaker 1: where did you come from? Where did you come from?
Speaker 1: That really sounded like real Ozzy, because it's.
Speaker 3: Where who's your mom? Where you from? You know where
Speaker 3: you come from? Is because I think like a lot
Speaker 3: of like white people, we'll say where do you come from,
Speaker 3: but we say where you're from?
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Let me do that again, So who's your mom? Where
Speaker 1: you're from? And then also I guess how you got
Speaker 1: into music.
Speaker 2: I'm from a place in southwest Sydney called the area
Speaker 2: well that's what it's known by. But I'm from Campbelltown,
Speaker 2: which as well I was born and raised.
Speaker 3: If you drive through.
Speaker 2: Literally if you don't really know much about Western Sydney,
Speaker 2: it's like a low like socio economic area. A lot
Speaker 2: of people, like their families have moved there from other countries,
Speaker 2: so it's like very like ethnic and like there's a
Speaker 2: lot of culture yeah, very multicultural, that's correct where and
Speaker 2: it is a really awesome place, Like there's so much
Speaker 2: culture there and it really like shaped me as a person.
Speaker 2: I'd say, so, my mob is Camilla Roy, my dad's
Speaker 2: Cammilla Roy, and my mom is someone. So she's from
Speaker 2: the Islands, and she's from this island called Savati and
Speaker 2: this village called salil Longa. So yeah, beautiful. Can you
Speaker 2: speak what's the summer moon? Someone? I can speak like
Speaker 2: swear words like like like I can say all the
Speaker 2: bad words, but I can't say that around my aunties
Speaker 2: and stuff.
Speaker 1: But I love like the summer and Maldi and Polynesian
Speaker 1: like culture. Like I just feel like there is some
Speaker 1: part of me that I feel like I like once
Speaker 1: in a past life for the part of yeah, like
Speaker 1: I don't know why, because when I was playing rugby
Speaker 1: with the girls and they're mostly like all Mauldi girls
Speaker 1: and some girls like their food and like their language,
Speaker 1: like I'd feel like a part of this so much.
Speaker 2: I feel like Islanders are like really similar to my
Speaker 2: like growing up, I kind of feel like my culture
Speaker 2: was like really similar on both sides. It was just
Speaker 2: like kind of a little bit different. But the values
Speaker 2: of like family and community were always like the same.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and the singing and dancing, yeah exactly, it's.
Speaker 3: Like this and family like that. I remember growing up
Speaker 3: in Claymore and there was a lot of like someone
Speaker 3: and Islander families who lived in Claymore and so you know,
Speaker 3: it was a real mix of like blackfellows and Islanders
Speaker 3: and it was like we were one in the same,
Speaker 3: you know, like our humor was the same, the whole,
Speaker 3: the whole family values were the same. I remember these
Speaker 3: two they were two small boys who lived down the road.
Speaker 3: They were about ten years older than me, but they
Speaker 3: just got their license, you know, and they used to
Speaker 3: take us around remember the NIST and skylines back in
Speaker 3: the day, like the pimped out rides and like we
Speaker 3: like they had the lights under their cars like lowered
Speaker 3: the NIST and scarlet and they used to just take
Speaker 3: us boys, like just for cruisers around Claymore. I thought
Speaker 3: that was like the best thing in the world.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, down.
Speaker 2: Formal in a skyline. I thought it was like the
Speaker 2: secret exactly.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I'm talking about. But let's keep talking
Speaker 3: about your music, because one a lot of Islanders can
Speaker 3: fucking sing, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Like they got their blood.
Speaker 3: Voice from heaven or something. It's just like happy people.
Speaker 3: Everyone sounds like Stan Walker. Amazing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Literally, because when I went back to some more like
Speaker 2: about two weeks ago, I went to this karaoke and
Speaker 2: tell me why I was so scared to sing? And
Speaker 2: I'm a singer, and I'm like, right, why is everyone
Speaker 2: in here just like exactly sounding like stan Walker on
Speaker 2: some crazy like Beyonce like vocal runs and everything.
Speaker 3: You never go up against like a Pacific Islander or
Speaker 3: a Filipino.
Speaker 1: I love karaoke. Hey, yeah, I didn't know that. I
Speaker 1: just recently learned that.
Speaker 3: But you sort of broke you out into the scene
Speaker 3: back in twenty seventeen. You know, you won Triple Jay's
Speaker 3: Unearthed Artist. From that moment to now, like, what have
Speaker 3: been some of the highlights for you? I know you've
Speaker 3: ticked off a lot of things on the bucket list,
Speaker 3: but recently eighty thousand people in a stadium what, oh
Speaker 3: my god?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I feel like I've been I've been working
Speaker 2: and like chipping away for a long time. I feel
Speaker 2: like you've seen Maddie like You've been kind of like
Speaker 2: witness since like totally the early days like when we
Speaker 2: first met. But yeah, like I guess I didn't actually
Speaker 2: answer your question Brooke earlier about like how I got
Speaker 2: into music, But I started off with Triple Jianna. They
Speaker 2: like won this little competition and it's kind of just
Speaker 2: been like history since then. And like, I guess the
Speaker 2: most recent things that have happened now that have been
Speaker 2: like the craziest things is opening for one of my
Speaker 2: favorite artists, Mahalia, and then getting brought out by Coldplate,
Speaker 2: which is crazy to eighty thousand people, That's like probably
Speaker 2: the craziest thing, and I feel like that will still
Speaker 2: be like the craziest thing I've ever done. I just
Speaker 2: did my first ARIA performance like last week, which was amazing.
Speaker 3: Can I just say that you're bug on that stage,
Speaker 3: like absolute fire. Your voice is blended so beautifully, Like
Speaker 3: tell us about that moment when you're looking at into
Speaker 3: the audience, You're seeing everyone in the industry who sort
Speaker 3: of you know, look up to all love and respect.
Speaker 3: Are you having that sort of euphoric moment that you
Speaker 3: described earlier or are you shitting yourself.
Speaker 2: Literally a heart attack on stage? The whole like lead
Speaker 2: up to that. So I found out about that performance
Speaker 2: like the week before. Cyril's team basically reached out and
Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, like we're performing this. We'd love
Speaker 2: to have you and Budera, and I was like, of course,
Speaker 2: I'd love to come. And then when we got to rehearsals,
Speaker 2: like you know, Budera is not going to play with
Speaker 2: the vocals, and I'm like, damn, I need to step
Speaker 2: it up. I need to like get practicing, and then
Speaker 2: like you know, like we really went into it, and
Speaker 2: like going into like that kind of performance is so different.
Speaker 2: It's like just three minutes, just something so quick, and
Speaker 2: you practice so much for it, and then like you
Speaker 2: just in that space. I honestly felt like it was
Speaker 2: a blow. I walked off stage and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's done. Like I just I don't know, Like I
Speaker 2: felt like I wasn't even there.
Speaker 3: I felt like you were really free up there. You
Speaker 3: might look like you're shitting yourself, but you were moving.
Speaker 3: It looked like you were like having a moment.
Speaker 1: So what do you mean they're playing with the vocals? Sorry,
Speaker 1: a silly question.
Speaker 2: He's just like fire, He's not going to mess around,
Speaker 2: he's going to come in and, like you, he's.
Speaker 3: Probably gonna be some massive roof that's going to fucking
Speaker 3: like tear off the roof, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1: Remember in La Yeah, Okay that makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm like not amuser getting with the lingo.
Speaker 3: I am like, I know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck yeah cold play?
Speaker 3: Cold play? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that the biggest crowd that you've ever played in
Speaker 1: front of?
Speaker 3: That's the stadium?
Speaker 1: That's fuck.
Speaker 3: She's like, no, I've done like one hundred and fifty before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I still feel like it hasn't
Speaker 2: even like happened. It's something I feel like it's going
Speaker 2: to take me a little bit of time to be
Speaker 2: like I'm going to look back at it and be like, ook,
Speaker 2: that's actually crazy. It definitely feels like, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 2: very insane or like a dream right now. So I
Speaker 2: still feel like I'm processing it. But how that came
Speaker 2: about was basically I was getting ready for the I
Speaker 2: was in Sydney, so I was just like starting to
Speaker 2: do some fittings and stuff, and I was actually running
Speaker 2: late to a fitting and I had to drive to Woollongong,
Speaker 2: So I was like in the car. My mom was
Speaker 2: driving me while I was like doing emails and stuff,
Speaker 2: and I got this call from my team basically being
Speaker 2: like I don't even know how to tell you this,
Speaker 2: but basically Coldplay bring up an artist in every city
Speaker 2: and they really want to see your verse on this song.
Speaker 2: So they had a song called We Pray with Little
Speaker 2: Sims and Bernavoy. Yeah Little Sims kills it, but they
Speaker 2: get someone to like rewrite Little Sims verse in like
Speaker 2: their own way, and they were like, yeah, so I
Speaker 2: don't know how to take you this, but like they
Speaker 2: have this and the team really want to see your
Speaker 2: verse for it, but like we kind of need it
Speaker 2: like in the next thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: So I'm already late and my mom's driving. I start
Speaker 2: turning the track on. I'm like writing this song like
Speaker 2: in the car, freaking out. So yeah, we're sorting out
Speaker 2: this verse. I do the fitting, I get back in
Speaker 2: the car, I finish writing the rest of the verse.
Speaker 2: We pull up to my house, my mom gets out
Speaker 2: the car, and I put the camera down and I
Speaker 2: filmed the audition for that, which is oh so like
Speaker 2: and I'm like the kind of person that I hate filming,
Speaker 2: like put the camera down and talk to the come.
Speaker 2: It's just like I just find it for me personally,
Speaker 2: Like sometimes I feel awkward, like that's just for me personally.
Speaker 2: I just like I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 2: like you yeah, like I know what it is, but
Speaker 2: like when I do it, I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is so awkward for me. But so I put
Speaker 2: it down. I like shoot this little interview kind of
Speaker 2: like audition thing, and I like sing the verse and
Speaker 2: send it over and then I'm like, Okay, well, like
Speaker 2: it's Friday, I'll just let the let it like do
Speaker 2: it's thing, and I'll find out on Monday. But I
Speaker 2: couldn't stop thinking about it. Like I just couldn't stop
Speaker 2: thinking about it. But I was like I really hate
Speaker 2: when I like put my hopes up high and like
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I would rather just like
Speaker 2: put it out in the universe. And like I've kind
Speaker 2: of feel like with a lot of things, like being
Speaker 2: in the industry and like going for a lot of
Speaker 2: jobs and stuff. It's like I've become now the person
Speaker 2: that's like whatever energy I put out, like whatever's meant
Speaker 2: to be for me. Is for me, and like I
Speaker 2: will let it come to me, and like I won't
Speaker 2: be upset if it doesn't happen, like there's like a
Speaker 2: plan for me and like the universe, you know, will happen.
Speaker 3: I tracked exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I attracted. I just put out like just keep
Speaker 2: doing me and like keep putting out positive energy. So
Speaker 2: I just like let go of it, even though like
Speaker 2: inside I was like dying. Yeah. Then I got a
Speaker 2: call on Monday from my management and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: Cold Place team wants to meet with us, so we'll
Speaker 2: just see how it goes. So I was like freaking
Speaker 2: out and then yeah, I got confirmed and they called
Speaker 2: me back and they were like, yeah, it's locked in
Speaker 2: for the two Sydney dates. So they actually.
Speaker 3: Both both like two nights, yeah, not just one. That
Speaker 3: is epic, Like it's almost like you get to do
Speaker 3: it and then do it again. Leave the moment.
Speaker 2: It was insane and like as soon as I got
Speaker 2: that call, I started bawling my eyes out. I was crying,
Speaker 2: like ugly crying. I faced Hi my mom, and my
Speaker 2: mom was crying and like, yeah, it was probably the
Speaker 2: most I've cried, and like I don't know, and I
Speaker 2: think for me, like it was a real like validating
Speaker 2: moment because like earlier this year, I was like I
Speaker 2: don't even know if I want to be doing music anymore,
Speaker 2: and like yeah, so like having like something like that
Speaker 2: happened was like the craziest thing for me.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, isn't that like that that's an amazing story.
Speaker 3: But then thinking that earlier this year you didn't feel
Speaker 3: like you were like wanting to do music, and then
Speaker 3: seeing the year that you've had, Like, isn't that just
Speaker 3: like one of those moments where it's like a fork
Speaker 3: in the road and it's like it depends on what
Speaker 3: path you take, and it's like there might be this
Speaker 3: really hard decision, but once you get past that challenge
Speaker 3: or that mindset, but all this success came, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I really like those moments. I think it's those
Speaker 1: you know, and you said about you know, those little
Speaker 1: shows that you had and like you know, you weren't
Speaker 1: maybe getting the response that you would not you would
Speaker 1: hope for like doing your music. I think like all
Speaker 1: of those little bricks and pavements like move towards where
Speaker 1: you're going to go, and like these big moments and
Speaker 1: I feel like this is just the start for you,
Speaker 1: like in a sense, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And I mean like at your agent and at your
Speaker 3: level in your career, You've already had Timberland recognize you,
Speaker 3: give you the thumbs up for your song, you know,
Speaker 3: and it was Timberland, right, Yeah, and then cole Play,
Speaker 3: the biggest band in the world collaborate with you. So
Speaker 3: like if that isn't some sort of like sign from
Speaker 3: the universe, but like, girl, you're on the right path.
Speaker 3: I don't know if the fuck is.
Speaker 1: Just be skipping along way, I'm gone. What is on
Speaker 1: your like manifestation list?
Speaker 2: I am really hoping that over the next year I
Speaker 2: get to go to Europe or the UK. I would
Speaker 2: like love to make dance music over there. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of people I want to work with. Like an
Speaker 2: absolute dream would be like to make a song with
Speaker 2: someone like Kitchenada. I feel like that would be like
Speaker 2: they my game over for me personally. But yeah, like
Speaker 2: I would love to go overseas and just like write
Speaker 2: music and like really like expand my horizons in a way.
Speaker 2: So I guess like that's a goal for me next.
Speaker 3: A lot of artists like Black fel artists in particular,
Speaker 3: I find that there needs to be a sacrifice that
Speaker 3: is made right, well, any artist, but we are so
Speaker 3: connected to family, we're so connected to community. To take
Speaker 3: that leap of faith to go international, not a lot
Speaker 3: of people do it because it's like starting from almost
Speaker 3: ground zero again, right, So it's like you're on your
Speaker 3: trajectory here and you're on your way up, and then
Speaker 3: to have like to go to go and start something
Speaker 3: again in a new climate, it's I don't know, that difficult,
Speaker 3: you know, but you see how much the reward can
Speaker 3: be if you take that risk. You just have to
Speaker 3: think of the kid l Roy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So it's like it's it is a risk, but it's
Speaker 3: also like if this is meant for you, it'll happen,
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, I know Europe is where the dance music.
Speaker 3: But have you ever thought of like an LA trip?
Speaker 3: Have you ever written in La? Would you ever consider that?
Speaker 2: I've written in La, like back when I was like eighteen,
Speaker 2: but it's been a while since, like I've gone back there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I kind of feel I'll come with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go. Sounds good. I'll just be a tool manager.
Speaker 1: Way for real, Like I forget I'd be a bulldog,
Speaker 1: Like I'd be the vessel you.
Speaker 2: Know what you need? Like I swear being a female
Speaker 2: in this industry, especially touring that ship is so exhausting,
Speaker 2: like playing shows and like having sound people not like
Speaker 2: talk to you properly because like it's just you in
Speaker 2: a DJ and you're like a woman, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: you don't understand what's going on, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So yeah, we need like strong tool managers and like
Speaker 2: especially like strong female tour managers for instance, like doing
Speaker 2: things like a support slot at like the forum and more.
Speaker 2: It's like a lot of the time they're not like
Speaker 2: paying crazy well for those positions because they're like a
Speaker 2: lot of exposure. Yeah, and you take those spots because
Speaker 2: it's like you that is like such a good look
Speaker 2: and like such a massive audience that you like get
Speaker 2: to perform too, and like it actually is like a
Speaker 2: really positive thing. But yeah, like but when it's just
Speaker 2: like me and like my DJ who's also like another
Speaker 2: brown woman, and we're just like whoo vibing. Most of
Speaker 2: the runs I've been on since like maybe twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: I've definitely had at least one person kind of be
Speaker 2: like have a little moment because like or like not
Speaker 2: talk to us, probably dismiss us or like maybe yeah,
Speaker 2: Like it's like so normal that, like you talk to
Speaker 2: any other woman in the industry and you're like they
Speaker 2: have the same experience. So it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3: That is crazy. But what I want to ask you
Speaker 3: about is that you just spoke about the support act.
Speaker 3: Touring with a support act. You've just announced to another
Speaker 3: leg of massive has to be a big like brain
Speaker 3: fucking moment for you, Like tasheirl, can we play this?
Speaker 3: Like come on, that's a that's a that's a name
Speaker 3: to support like she just so you know, she was
Speaker 3: the first artist I ever saw live like when I
Speaker 3: was young. So she came and diod A Nova's Red
Speaker 3: Room and I won tickets on the radio and now
Speaker 3: I'm back. But I loved her song to On, Like
Speaker 3: for me, that was like everything to get Yes. But
Speaker 3: she brings the vibe, so I feel like you're similar,
Speaker 3: like similar in terms of like your beautiful like vocal
Speaker 3: energy and even melody to so it's not like she's
Speaker 3: different from you.
Speaker 1: So the audience stage presence as well, when I saw
Speaker 1: you perform in that show, Like I.
Speaker 3: Was totally given it was.
Speaker 1: It really was, And I don't want to blow me
Speaker 1: like you know, people make it your ass, but like no,
Speaker 1: I like it was for real. Like I was like,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 3: So is that the energy you'd be bringing to the tours.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited for that show. Like when I tell
Speaker 2: you that week was like insane when I found out
Speaker 2: about that, because it was like I played the cold
Speaker 2: Play show, I like went to someone, I got the
Speaker 2: call about to an actually the like the next day
Speaker 2: after the cold Play show, and then I got the
Speaker 2: call after that for the Aria performance and like, and
Speaker 2: I honestly felt like I had a heart attack.
Speaker 1: I was like, what is going on too much? That's
Speaker 1: no wonder you haven't like process because you.
Speaker 2: Have been too locked in. I was about a saying
Speaker 2: it doesn't go.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. I love that. Well, let's get to
Speaker 3: talking about More Music Day. You know, it's an incredible
Speaker 3: initiative as part of OZ Music Day, and it is
Speaker 3: championed by the one and Only Nookie. But you're one
Speaker 3: of the artists who will be you know, one of
Speaker 3: the ambassadors this year, so it's a it's a it's
Speaker 3: a it's an amazing thing that we have our own day.
Speaker 3: You know, it's an important thing. And also it's important
Speaker 3: that the money and profits filter down to first nations,
Speaker 3: organizations and musicians. What does it mean for you to
Speaker 3: be a part of this day?
Speaker 2: Well, Like, first of all, the work that support act
Speaker 2: are doing is like so important, and especially like having
Speaker 2: a day like this that goes towards mob that are struggling,
Speaker 2: it's so so important, and like, you know, it doesn't
Speaker 2: just support artists, it supports everyone that works in the industry.
Speaker 2: People who are like doing sound you know, people who
Speaker 2: are tool managers, and you know, I guess those people actually,
Speaker 2: like in my opinion, I feel like they get overlooked
Speaker 2: the work that they do and it's so important. Like
Speaker 2: if it wasn't for them, you know, festivals wouldn't happen,
Speaker 2: the shows would be running, you know, like Backbone, Like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's so many people that, like I guess like if
Speaker 2: you're just someone who comes to a show, like you
Speaker 2: don't realize how much work goes into this. And like
Speaker 2: for me, like personally, it's like my project is just
Speaker 2: like it's not just me, Like there's a whole community
Speaker 2: of people who like like really work hard and like
Speaker 2: make everything happen and to have you know, Support Act
Speaker 2: and like you know OZ Music T Shirt Day and
Speaker 2: Mob Music t Shirt Day, you know, like put that
Speaker 2: money back into like that community, like it's so important
Speaker 2: and really awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we know OZ music t shirt has been going
Speaker 3: for a few ye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, participated in the OS one, but I always wear
Speaker 1: a Blackfellow. Last year, I think I did. Last two years,
Speaker 1: I've done Kingsting right, Yeah, yeah, I love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but there's a now a T shirt with
Speaker 3: so many different faces on it, you know, representing mobs.
Speaker 3: Where can people buy that shirt so that they can
Speaker 3: donate to this cause?
Speaker 2: So they can go on the Support Act website And
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure this ACT website or like the OZ
Speaker 2: Music T Shirt Day website has like everything and it
Speaker 2: also has more information on Mob Music T Shirt Day
Speaker 2: specifically and where you can also buy that that top
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, well, speaking of mobbi music, obviously the
Speaker 3: ares were just last week. What did it feel like
Speaker 3: for you, as you know First Nations artists, You've been
Speaker 3: in the game now for you know, a few years,
Speaker 3: you've seen a shift you've been to the Hours before,
Speaker 3: but this year felt different, right, It felt like so
Speaker 3: many not just nominees, winners and performers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was black a blackout A. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: so good.
Speaker 2: No, it felt awesome and like it was so funny.
Speaker 2: Like I walked into the carpet and I started doing
Speaker 2: my interviews and then like I turn around, I see
Speaker 2: Nookie and his whole entourage, and I was like, why
Speaker 2: did I get one of those?
Speaker 1: Like what the hell? But it was coming out of
Speaker 1: the van. Yeah, what the hell?
Speaker 2: I see Isaac Compton. I'm like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: But it was like, yeah, it was so awesome, like
Speaker 2: just to be surrounded by so many Mob and like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, like I guess for me, it's like, Oh,
Speaker 2: anyone who's like watching this happen, it's like, well, if
Speaker 2: you have the thought that maybe we've gotten here because
Speaker 2: we're black or because we're using that, it's actually crazy
Speaker 2: because like most of the Mob who are actually making music,
Speaker 2: or all of the Mob actually are like top of
Speaker 2: their fields, Like you see m Romara, you see like
Speaker 2: Emma Donovan, like they're actually nowhere near just like average.
Speaker 2: They're like above and beyond like talented excellent, like they're
Speaker 2: black excellent. At Dobby, you see everyone like putting in
Speaker 2: the work and it's like, yeah, it's not because we're black,
Speaker 2: it's because we're actually good, actually good at what we
Speaker 2: do and we're like actually better than average.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this might be like way too sentimental, but I
Speaker 1: love this so much because you know, like most of
Speaker 1: our get together is like usually based off sad things,
Speaker 1: you know, like our reunions are usually like funerals, right,
Speaker 1: and that for me, like even just how many mob
Speaker 1: were on the red carpet was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: Like this isn't these are the moments we should be
Speaker 1: celebrating so hard and so much because they're like they're
Speaker 1: like reunions per se as we're getting together, but it's
Speaker 1: not a fucking funeral. Like yeah, and I just I
Speaker 1: get excited. I don't get to go to these events
Speaker 1: much like you.
Speaker 3: I've done next year.
Speaker 1: I have no musical bail. I'm just there for a
Speaker 1: good time. Yeah. But you know, like I go to
Speaker 1: a few red carpets and when I it's always the
Speaker 1: mob that like find one another and connect or I'll
Speaker 1: find another perth person, like another normal and it's just
Speaker 1: it's so create safety.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's cultural. It's so funny you say that, Like
Speaker 2: when I was walking on the carpet for me, like
Speaker 2: I already get like social anxiety and like spaces like that,
Speaker 2: it's very full and it's like you're giving a lot
Speaker 2: of energy and also receiving a lot of energy. So
Speaker 2: it's like just constantly things going on. And yeah, I
Speaker 2: was like so simulated. I remember like, and I'm sometimes
Speaker 2: the kind of person that like can't hide it on
Speaker 2: my face too, so I'm like, so I'm like walking
Speaker 2: through and I remember I saw Emma Donovan and I
Speaker 2: looked over at her and she looks at me and
Speaker 2: she goes, oh, you a casis, Like everything okay? And
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, actually, like main, you feel so
Speaker 2: much more safe and like I was like, no, everything's okay,
Speaker 2: and she like the way she comforted me. It was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it made me feel like really sho.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what, she's probably been there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she like we definitely had this connection
Speaker 2: when we looked at each other and I was like, no,
Speaker 2: it's all good. Then she syndrome.
Speaker 3: Hey, But also like the if you're part of a
Speaker 3: label as much as like they're they're helping you before
Speaker 3: and you know, supporting you to get ready and stuff.
Speaker 3: It still is a really white dominated space.
Speaker 1: Look at that acros.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: Me and Baker Boy were probably the only blackfellas like
Speaker 1: in that room a Baker Boy.
Speaker 3: Represent Can I just drop this like this is a
Speaker 3: mic drop moment the baker The Baker Boy was not
Speaker 3: invited to the fucking Arias this year.
Speaker 2: That's crazy?
Speaker 3: Is that insane? So he wins five last year five
Speaker 3: Arias and then not invited And I said to himself,
Speaker 3: just pull up in the g wagon and play that.
Speaker 1: Song like we need a protest about this.
Speaker 3: I think what, Look, it does come down to allocations,
Speaker 3: but I think that's an incredible artist that needs to
Speaker 3: be there. Even when he's not being recognized for an
Speaker 3: award or nominated, he's still is a strong part of
Speaker 3: this industry.
Speaker 1: He's alumni.
Speaker 3: Like in a way, he's a fucking aria I think
Speaker 3: he's one seven Arias or something like crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy politics, and I feel like, yeah, you probably
Speaker 1: deal with this, and I guess you've touched on it too, Becka.
Speaker 1: Like the politics in the industry and especially like being
Speaker 1: a woman, like you have to go up against a
Speaker 1: black woman. Yeah, it's like, fuck me, you have to
Speaker 1: go up against way more like obstacles and you have
Speaker 1: to jump through this hoop and like climb that fucking thing.
Speaker 1: It's not annoying, it's like it's like.
Speaker 2: You can't just be good. You have to be like
Speaker 2: better than average, extremely good.
Speaker 3: It's getting to the end of the year, So what's
Speaker 3: your plans for Like, what do you do? You have
Speaker 3: big family time, you know, end of year for Christmas
Speaker 3: or what do you do.
Speaker 2: I usually go back to Campbelltown for Christmas. I don't
Speaker 2: know what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't.
Speaker 2: Even like me in Santa I've been a nasty girl
Speaker 2: and going to go film some tiktoks that No, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like it feels like I don't know,
Speaker 2: but Christmas feels so far away to me, Like I'm
Speaker 2: like so much work. I can't even like I feel
Speaker 2: like Christmas. I'm like when is that that feels like next.
Speaker 3: Year but you break or what?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I feel like I got to spend some
Speaker 2: time with my family and my nieces and yeah, it's
Speaker 2: so important to be around family, Like they really keep
Speaker 2: you grounded. Especially my family. They always just make fun
Speaker 2: of me.
Speaker 1: My family humble, They keep me humble.
Speaker 2: It's so funny because like my siblings, like my brother's
Speaker 2: a doctor and then my sister she's a lawyer. And
Speaker 2: then like when I complained about work, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's such a long day. Just did was make music
Speaker 2: at the studio?
Speaker 1: Like, guys, I swear, actually.
Speaker 3: Job hilarious, Like a doctor and a lawyer like the
Speaker 3: two professions that everyone wants you to be, you know.
Speaker 3: And then it's like the creative.
Speaker 1: Here, I'm shamed for it.
Speaker 3: Like day you can't complain I have my family. Is
Speaker 3: that what you're standing in the studio lights for too long? Yeah?
Speaker 2: That exact kind of stuff is what I mean.
Speaker 1: Plus, Okay, can I ask you like a personal question,
Speaker 1: what would you say to like your fifteen year old
Speaker 1: self who was like had those little aspirations and are
Speaker 1: killing it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel like I've kind of like gone through
Speaker 2: this kind of like least thoughts recently actually, because I've
Speaker 2: been working with someone really awesome. Her name is pretty Stevens.
Speaker 2: Yeah I know if you guys know her, but she's yeah,
Speaker 2: an icon tongue and icon and like working with her
Speaker 2: and like I know that me like I have like
Speaker 2: a very soft voice when I sing sometimes, and we've
Speaker 2: been like doing vocal coaching and like kind of working
Speaker 2: through a lot of different things, like you know, being
Speaker 2: able to belt and chest and like turning like things
Speaker 2: like my head voice into being less airy into something
Speaker 2: that's a lot stronger and can like hold its own
Speaker 2: and like, yeah, I guess as a vocalist and as
Speaker 2: like a round woman, I guess people always have been
Speaker 2: like to me, we need you to belt, like they
Speaker 2: want me to sing ballads like you know, like Whitney
Speaker 2: or like Beyonce, and like I guess me being me,
Speaker 2: like that's not really who I am as like an artist,
Speaker 2: And I've always found it really hard to like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, not conformed. Yeah, And I I've always like
Speaker 2: been like, no, but this isn't who I am. And
Speaker 2: when you have a lot of people kind of like
Speaker 2: trying to encourage you to do that or be something
Speaker 2: maybe or not, it's really hard to like stand up
Speaker 2: against that, especially being like what fifteen years old and
Speaker 2: me and Printy were talking about this because I guess
Speaker 2: she's gone through a very similar journey and like even now,
Speaker 2: like I feel like I'm still then, like only kind
Speaker 2: of just like getting a thicker skin and being able
Speaker 2: to like really stand up and be like, no, this
Speaker 2: is what I want to do. Like I'm sorry, no,
Speaker 2: but it's my decision. And yeah, I guess like if
Speaker 2: I could talk to my fifteen year old self, it
Speaker 2: would be to like not be afraid to be who
Speaker 2: you are and you know, like let your light shine
Speaker 2: and like you know, what you're doing is awesome and
Speaker 2: like it even though like you might feel like people
Speaker 2: might be better than you or there's a better way to
Speaker 2: do things, like just to trust yourself. So that's what
Speaker 2: I would say to myself.
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