1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: As much as my work has exposed me to the 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: worst of humanity, it's absolutely exposed me to the best 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: of it as well. You know, a lot of the 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: stories we do are feel good celebrations of people who 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: have given so much of themselves for the sake of others, 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: or people who've defied the odds and beaten the odds 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: and succeeded and achieved and recovered and all of that. 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: And so we do at times get caught up in 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: the negative. But there is so much positive in the 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: job that I do that I think that helps me 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: to keep a little balanced as well. 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: Today, thanks for listening. It's Monday morning. On Monday morning, 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: what I do, I'm often at the. 14 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 3: Gym, I'm watching highlights from the weekend's sport on the 15 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: tellies in between sets. So on Monday mornings, as we 16 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 3: do here, we roll the highlights. A couple of hits 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: today from Sylvia Jeffrey. She's fantastic, very high profile journalist 18 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: here in Australia. Happens to be married to another profile journalist, 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: Peter Stefanovic. They have two wonderful kids, two boys, and 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: Sylvia joined me to have a chat about a bunch 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: of things we talked today about where it all began 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: for her at the Channel nine news room, what it's 23 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: like being a mum covering the news, the emotional toll. 24 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: That covering the news can have upon her, and. 25 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 3: How she looks after a mental health doing her job 26 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 3: now nearly two decades ago she started her career. I 27 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: want to know when she got that twinkle in the 28 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: eye for TV. 29 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 4: Growing up. 30 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: I grew up in a very politically engaged family, I 31 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: would say. 32 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 4: So I watched a lot of news growing up as 33 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 4: a kid. 34 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: Were your parents of the gig? Were they in the game? 35 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 4: Or my dad was on local council. Was on Britain 36 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: City council. 37 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: Whoa, which is the biggest city council in the stuff 38 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: in the country in maybe the southern hemispos. It's the largest, 39 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: huge council that was the biggest in the world. It's 40 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: this entire city. 41 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 42 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: So he was the council of the Aldermen they used 43 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: to call them back then for Whites Hill. 44 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: Wow. So I grew up in a very peuy serve 45 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: under Sallyanne. She was Sally Ane Salanne. 46 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. So he's still very close with Sally So. 47 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: She he was with the team. He was the Sally 48 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: Camps with her team. Here's the team. 49 00:01:59,240 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 50 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: He had a core flute that said he cares. And 51 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: I remember seeing someone vandalize one of those core flutes 52 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: outside my uncle's house once and they wrote who Cares 53 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: over the top of it. And that was my first 54 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: insight into how nasty politics could be. 55 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 4: I thought, why would someone do that to my poor daddy? 56 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: Does care? 57 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: You know? 58 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 4: So? Anyway, and then my mum is very much on 59 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 4: the opposite end of the political spectrum to my dad. 60 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: So I've been exposed to both sides of politics throughout 61 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: my upbringing. So it was always very aware and engaged 62 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: with news and politics throughout my childhood, but was always 63 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: drawn to journalism. I actually wrote a couple of newspaper 64 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: articles for the Courier Male Education section when I was 65 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: still in high school. Wow about you know, the trials 66 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: and tribulations of being a teenager in Brisbane in the 67 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: nineties and early two thousands. How to match ship oknui's 68 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: to your deck shoes, you know, all that kind of stuff. 69 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: So clearly caught the attention of some important people back then. 70 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: But I got a job in the Channel nine newsroom 71 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: in my first year of UNI. 72 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: So I got a. 73 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: Job, entry level job, rolling AUTOQ and running news scripts 74 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: to Heather Ford and Bruce Page. 75 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 4: I had grown up watching you know as a child. 76 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: So and I can honestly say, hand on heart, the 77 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: moment I stepped into that newsroom, I knew that's where 78 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to be. 79 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: Wow. 80 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: I got the. 81 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: Buzz, I got the adrenaline, I got the energy, the 82 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: dynamic of a newsroom on that first day. 83 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 4: And I didn't look back. I didn't want to leave. 84 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: So there's two things that I kind of want to 85 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: unpack a bit. So Sally Ane Atkinson, Jim and I 86 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: did a podcast a while back. 87 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: It's still out there, but we don't do it regularly anymore. 88 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: And we had Sallyanna as a guest to talk about 89 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: the ninety two Brisbane Olympic bit, which Sally Ane Atkinson 90 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: really went for and quite clearly said something along the 91 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: lines of like, if only we'd bought more mink coats 92 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: for the wives of the guys, we would have had 93 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: the Olympics thirty forty years before. We're getting it out 94 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: pretty clear, like she talked about that night in Paris. Now, 95 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: I was very clear that we would really down on 96 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: the gift giving, yeah right, dropped and the bit of 97 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: the bit of the swag, yeah right. But she was 98 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: local politics in state and federal politics. You can have 99 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: like a liberal city council as Auntie Australian Liberal Party. 100 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 3: They're very different to the state and even more different 101 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: to the federal. So your dad was kind of on 102 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 3: that kind of economically conservative variety kind of side, yeah. 103 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: But very socially progressive. 104 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: My dad he sort of introduced the first recycling program 105 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: to Brisbane. 106 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: I love getting my extra really big exactly. 107 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 4: He's very heritage conscious as well. He heritage listed some 108 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: items in the area. 109 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: My dad is just community first and he always has been, 110 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: and that's been something that he's really did. 111 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: He goas a jungle to look at the willy Bin 112 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: Trust about that I haven't asked him about because. 113 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: I'm old enough. 114 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 3: We had the oscar of the grouch tins at the 115 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: side of the house, right and the guys would run 116 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: up behind your house, come and grab mem if you 117 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: they would sometimes split and if they the policy was 118 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: your bag splits. 119 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: The boys aren't picking up done. And it's Brisbane, it's 120 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: the summer there's maggot going through that and so when 121 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: the wheely bin showed up, it was this, Oh my god, 122 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: there's a robot that comes every week. So that's incredible. 123 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's interesting that now the conservative or the 124 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 3: centrist politics is barely existent, whereas you can be economically 125 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 3: conservative and socially progressive exactly. And that was someone that 126 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: is people that held power in Brisbane for so long. 127 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 128 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: Well, I would say at a council level you probably 129 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: still still see that a lot more than you probably 130 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: do on a federal level. And council is such an 131 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: interesting you know, local government is such an interesting level 132 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: of government because it is very grassroots and it's very 133 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: connected with the community. So I've had a really interesting insight, 134 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: i think into that world. 135 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: Now as the mum of two kids, two boys, I 136 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: was curious about what Silly's experiences of reporting the news, 137 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: being a part of the media industry, and how that 138 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 3: has shaped the way that she and her husband raised 139 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: their boys. 140 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: My experience in life on the whole has informed my 141 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: approach to mothering boys, to raising boys, and I think 142 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: a lot of that, you know, put the internal internal 143 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: stuff aside. Being in the newsroom being a journalist, and 144 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: I suppose having witnessed some pretty dark things over the years, 145 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: some distressing things. 146 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 4: Being in that bubble. 147 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: Of news where it's a lot of doom and gloom 148 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: at times, has maybe given me a certain perspective on things. 149 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: My time in the. 150 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: Newsroom early on as a nineteen year old, I would 151 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: I mean, there were some challenges for me. There were 152 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: some moments, there's some moments that were maybe uncomfortable, and 153 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: I would say I felt probably conscious of how I 154 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: felt in that dynamic, being a young girl at that stage, 155 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: nineteen years old in a room, in a newsroom that 156 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: was predominantly male. I would say, though I had I 157 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: actually had a lot of support. The news director at 158 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: the time, Lee was very supportive of me. He had 159 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: daughters a similar age to me, and so I felt 160 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: really nurtured by him in many ways. I mentioned Ron 161 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: as well. Paul Reid, who was the chief of staff, 162 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: also very caring towards me, and so I actually had 163 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: a really positive experience at that early stage in my career. 164 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: You always feel probably small, I think, as a young 165 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: woman stepping into that world in many ways, and it 166 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: can take a long time to build up your confidence 167 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: in that kind of space, a very robust environment. But 168 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: I had a lot of support early on, and I 169 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: think I don't know how that's informed me as a mother, 170 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: but it's definitely I was modeled some really good behavior. 171 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: I think in those early days always been perfect, you know. 172 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: I think like any industry, like any newsroom, it hasn't 173 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: always been perfect. 174 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: And I have felt reduced by people. 175 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: At times in my career, and I have felt undermined 176 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: by people. 177 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: But I've also I started at a. 178 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: Time as well when there were a lot of women 179 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: coming up through the ranks, so I had a safe harbor. 180 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: Wherever I've been in my career. 181 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: I've had a safe harbor of support and friendship and 182 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: people looking after me, and so that has helped me. 183 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: Being a cop, being a AMBO, there's only so many, 184 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: only so many DV things you can show up to 185 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: you before you start to lose hope or start to 186 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: not be able to accept that your daughter is now 187 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: sexually active, like like, at some point you're going to 188 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 3: have to sort that through, you know, because I've known 189 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: people who have been in these gigs and they just get. 190 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: Worn down by it. 191 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: Being a journalist covering some of the darker aspects of masculinity, 192 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: being aware of what can happen. 193 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: And the good side as well. 194 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 3: But also, you know, the news doesn't cover the people 195 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: that got home safely. Yeah, but you're followed the car crash. 196 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: When you realized we're having boys with that background, did 197 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: you have an idea of how you wanted these boys 198 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 3: to be? 199 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: If I'm entirely honest, my first thought was, no one's 200 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: going to call me when they get old and move on, 201 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, because I'm having boys see Girls of the rock. 202 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,359 Speaker 4: But once I got past that very selfish thought. 203 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 2: I called my mum all the time. What are you 204 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 2: talking about? 205 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 4: I don't know. I just worry. 206 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: Well, maybe it's because I call my mother in law 207 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: more than my husband does, so that's what sets the scene. 208 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: But there is definitely an element of being hyper aware 209 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: and sometimes too aware, and maybe I'm too conscious of 210 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: the worst case scenario at times, and so I worry 211 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: too much. I definitely worry about my boys because I 212 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: have seen, you know, the worst of humanity. 213 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: We need to take a quick break back in a 214 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 3: moment with Sylvia Jeffries. Thanks for listening. We chatting with 215 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: Sylvia Jeffries today who's worked in the media and reported 216 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: on you know, the good stuff, but also truly harrowing 217 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: stories as a part of her job. 218 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 2: She's doing it for a while now. That can be 219 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 2: a lot on. 220 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: Your mental health when you're doing it day in and 221 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: day out. So how do you protect yourself doing this job? 222 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 2: What does Sylvia do? How does she decompress? 223 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: How does she clean the slate at the end of 224 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: the day so she can connect with her family when 225 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: she gets home. 226 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 4: Exercises my non negotiable. I need it. I need it. 227 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 4: My mental health look like for you, It depends on 228 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 4: the day. Running. 229 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: I do a lot of running, which is to me, 230 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: that's just the ultimate head clearer. I do some weights training, pump, 231 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: a bit of irons, lift heavy stuff, lift, I'm a lifter. 232 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: You got to lift, and just walking whatever and anything. 233 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: Bit of yoga for half an hour at home. I 234 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: did that the other night. I hadn't got any I 235 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: hadn't done anything all day. I put the kids to 236 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: bed and I did thirty minutes of yoga in the 237 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: living room. I slept so soundly that night. But I 238 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: know I can feel myself. I was sick last week, 239 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: so I didn't exercise for a week, and by Saturday 240 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: I was saying to Pete, the anxiety is settling in 241 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: my stomach. I need to go for a run right now. 242 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: And I just did an easy five k's and I 243 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: felt like a new person. That is my self care. 244 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: I suppose that's how I kind of decompress and reset 245 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: and move forward into the next day. 246 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 3: And you it sounds like to me like you just 247 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: wite you you're unwell, But it sounds like, for the 248 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: as heart as you can, you try to protect that time. 249 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 4: I do. Yeah, I try really hard to protect that time. 250 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 4: And it doesn't always work. 251 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: You know. 252 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes you'll have a crazy week and you'll get no 253 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: exercise done in a week. But I've I pay the 254 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: price for that mentally definitely, So I do. I try 255 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: to protect that time as much as I can. 256 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: It's so so important. I've been talking about it a 257 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: bit lately because I think exercise got sold to me 258 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: as this is the thing that people who want to 259 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 3: be skinny do. Yeah, this is the people of that, 260 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: people who want to be fast or massive, this is 261 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: what they do. If exercise has been sold to me, 262 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: is like, this is what people who want to not 263 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: shout at other people when they they do. This is 264 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: what people who want to be able to think clearly 265 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: when everything's confusing do. I probably would have been way 266 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: more into a way way younger. But it's sold to 267 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: us as an aesthetic outcome, correct, It's very rarely sold 268 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 3: to us as a if ever, just a resilience outcome, 269 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: which ultimately it is because there are hormones that released 270 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 3: into your body that allow you to shift mood states 271 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 3: far easier, but only get released when you're putting your 272 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,479 Speaker 3: body under these conditions. 273 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: Not super stressful like a walk will do it. 274 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. 275 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: We're not told that when we're little, which is kind 276 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: of kind of weird. 277 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: Were you a sporty kid. 278 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 4: Really sporty? Yeah, and so I think that's that set 279 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 4: me up for a lifetime of enjoying it. Yeah. I 280 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: played everything, you name it. 281 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: I played it. 282 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: Water Polo, Yeah, did one season of Water Polo. Didn't 283 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: like being grabbed out under the water. 284 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 4: So I'm a bit of a wis like that. 285 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: Loved the water yeah, yeah, I loved that. 286 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: It was Yeah, there's all the stuff that went on 287 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: under the water was fair game. 288 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: She her and her I. 289 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: Was more of a netballer. I like the three feet you. 290 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: Know, has your knees They're fine, that's amazing. 291 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: Freakishly fine. Yeah, I can't explain it. I played a 292 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: lot of netball, did a lot of swimming. I did shop, 293 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: but I did hyjump you know, touch, footy, cricket. I 294 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: was in the girls first eleven at Brisbane State High 295 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: not yep so coached by mister Marney. 296 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 4: So no, I loved it. 297 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: I loved sport as a kid, and I think that 298 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: really set me up for life. 299 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: Probably it really. I spoke with Lizzellis on the show 300 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 2: Long Ago My Hero. 301 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we basically spoke about that pretty much the entire time, 302 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: of how valuable sport is for young but no. 303 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: Matter what it is. 304 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the idea of you can get good 305 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: or something. You won't get good at it straight away. 306 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 3: It's going to be hard, yeah, but you can do 307 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: it and you'll adapt. And other people were away on you. 308 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: But also getting overlooked. 309 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 310 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: I missed out on teams. I didn't win the fifteen 311 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: meters breast stroke. 312 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: You know, things like that. And Chandler a Chandler Yeah, yeah. 313 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: Home of the Money in eighty two Commonwealth Games exactly. 314 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 315 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: I used to swim at the Queensland State Championships at Chandler. 316 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: I didn't do very well. 317 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: You got to the chair, you got state. Come on, 318 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: you State, come on. 319 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 320 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know a lot of all those life lessons, 321 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: it's all there in sport. 322 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: That's just a part of my full conversation with the 323 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: magnificent Sylvia Jeffreyes. We talk more about her career, how 324 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: reporting the news has shifted for her becoming a mother, 325 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: what motherhood's like, you know, in her role, in her job, 326 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: with the way the world appears to her. 327 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: It's a great conversation. She's magnificent. Scroll down. The episode 328 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: is called The Juggle and the Guilt gives you a 329 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: bit of a clue to where we got with the 330 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: motherhood stuff. Thanks for being a part of the show. 331 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: I'll talk to you on Monday.