WEBVTT - DEBATE | Is Social Media Dangerous For People Under 14? 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:06.200 We got get you remoding every day day, Adelaides. I 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:08.720 don't know, Jodes. Let's talk about social media. 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:11.719 Social media can be a really really beautiful thing, a 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.360 great rate to promote, to discover information and really spread 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.360 a lot of love. Yeah, but also unfortunately there's a 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:20.800 lot of situations where a lot of hate is spread. 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:23.760 Yeah, And it feels a little bit like the wild West, 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.720 which is why in Florida, the governor over there assigned 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:30.080 a restrictive bill preventing children under fourteen years of age 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:33.280 from having social media accounts. So the bill will ban 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.440 children under fourteen from having any social media accounts, and 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.440 then fourteen fifteen year olds will require parental permission. Don't 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:40.760 hate it. 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:44.199 I absolutely love it now. I think it is fantastic 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:46.480 one because before the age. 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:47.800 I may I don't even know what the age should be. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:52.680 I'd say thirty thirty plus before you stop genuinely procrastinating. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.640 But fourteen and under, it's just I don't even think 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:57.960 what sort of positive you could do. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:00:58.720 Well. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.720 It's saying that their brain haven't developed enough to have 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.200 the ability to know that they're being sucked into all 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:08.360 these addictive technologies and what's harmful and what's not. I 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:12.399 think two things that concern me is predators on the 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:16.039 internet for a start, but also secondly the impact that 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.199 it's having on our young girls and boys in terms 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.360 of body image, where they're just bombarded with all these 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.280 filtered images now and you just walk away, I know 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.319 I do. I'll walk away half the time just feeling 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:29.840 crappy about yourself. 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:30.679 Which is shocking. 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.880 So I have three kids, the oldest are five and three, 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:36.600 and to imagine that they'd been in a situation where 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.080 they are genuinely depressed and sad because of things that 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.720 has been directed to them on social media genuinely gives 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:45.480 me this weird feeling in my stomach. 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:46.760 That's not a good feeling. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:51.440 Yeah, So social media as a teenager, how to go 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:51.800 for you? 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:53.480 Well, I was right, I think in the thick of it. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:57.400 So I was just saying that for my eleventh birthday, mum, 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.800 let me get Facebook. So I was eleven on Facebook, 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:01.880 which honestly wasn't that bad back then. It was like 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.280 You're posting your little photo booth selfies with your friends 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.240 and like it was just silly and fun. But the 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.160 worst was I don't know if people would remember there 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.720 was a platform called form spring, and then it turned 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.120 in to ask FM, and it was a platform where 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.760 you could ask and answer anonymously with people you know, 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:17.800 and lots of the really popular kids would set it up. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.040 People would ask who do you like? You know, what 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:21.560 are you doing this weekend? All that sort of thing. 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:25.800 But then for kids like me, on less popular kids, 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:27.760 we'd cop the ugly side of that, So you get 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.520 the anonymous messages about what you look like or about 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.040 your other friends and things like that. So I copped 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:34.760 that a fair bit from the age of about twelve 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.760 to fourteen. But that platform died out pretty quickly because 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:38.000 of that. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.360 Did your mum know that was going on? What we 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.440 know about your mom? If she knew that would break 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:42.760 her home? 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.280 Oh my gosh, she never knew. But this is my 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.320 concern with the making the bands right. Kids will find 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.160 a way to do it, and potentially it's worse because 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.560 then they're hiding it and not talking about it. But no, 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.400 mum never knew that I was on that Facebook. At 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:55.680 least she could monitor me and see what I. 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:56.680 Was doing was about you abs. 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.080 Well, I don't have kids, but I've got nieces and 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:03.200 nephews and they have social media, and it terrifies me 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.880 because there is such there and it's been proven the 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:11.520 link between poor mental health highest screen time. But I 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.880 look at them as well, and they're not in the cast. 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:19.240 I can say this, but their attention spans. Getting them 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:22.440 to do stuff can be so hard. You ask them 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.000 to do something and because they're so used to seeing 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:27.079 ten second clips and things. And I even find it 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:31.639 myself now, I can't focus, like studying for UNI, I've 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.200 got to break it up into all right, I'm going 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:34.560 to do twenty minutes and then I'm going to go 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.280 and go outside and get some sun and come back. 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.480 Little things like that. Because your attention span, you just can't. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.800 You can't hold your attention span anymore. 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.440 So I could never hold it well before. 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.560 But there's all this research about how bad it is 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.520 for our mental health, and you know, our health system 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.680 is under so much pressure. Our mental health is as 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.240 bad as it's ever been. But yet we're all on 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.520 social media. So it's to me, it's petrifying. 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:03.960 They're going to be the first generation coming through now. 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.960 I guess maybe ours or maybe a bit younger, but 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.840 coming through now, we've never seen this impact before. So 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:16.039 well into our adulthood. What damage is social media doing 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.120 to all of us? We're about to find out, And. 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:19.520 It's all keeping up with the joneses. 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.159 I need to have a new dress for this every 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.960 time we talked about it a few weeks ago, trying 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.200 to find something to wear and feeling really crappy about 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.760 yourself because I've got a Reber address. So I wore 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:30.880 that a few weeks ago. Did I post it on Instagram? 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:32.000 You know, it's ridiculous. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:33.400 It's a good conversation. 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:34.920 There's a lot to come through if even if it 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.320 was fifteen or sixteen though social media, I'd be very 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:37.800 comfortable that. 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:39.320 Yeah, absolutely, I'm with you on. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.520 That messages and that don't be a jerk on social media, 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.560 and no, going after cane corns is not an exception. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.919 I still going after me a little mate's quite What 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:50.920 the fork? 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.520 Okay, what the hawk? This was born out of the 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.760 fact that Abby from the newsroom would steal all the 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.960 forks in the kitchen here and over and take the 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.760 home with her and not return them. And a few 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.960 of us were scratching our heads going on before. 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:06.400 Yeah, and then we went to Abby's house and turns 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.800 out it's a fork palace. Yeah, it's just a palace 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:09.560 made out of fork. 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.880 Fun fact, there's two at the moment that don't match 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:13.840 Mum's coloring, and she's like, where have these gone from? 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:14.560 I don't know. 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.000 I can most definitely. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.760 Tell you the sticky fingers smith they do. 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.359 Okay, So we expand this out to all facets of life, 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:27.200 and you've stumbled across something magnificent and pet related. 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.480 Yes, this is pet related and a local story. 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.520 So essentially a tea tree Gully pensioner sent her English 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.320 setter I think they're called setter. 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.240 Yeah, dog Miracle up to Cans. 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:38.520 Now. 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.039 She is about she's sixty nine years old, so she 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:42.320 doesn't want to go and do the. 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:43.560 Shows because it's a lot. 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.479 So the dog was meant to go into a heap 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.280 of different dog shows up near Cans. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.320 Okay, So the dog's gone up there. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.160 Then all of a sudden, the person, the pet sitter, 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.320 who has taken the dog has gone, Ah, we've got 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:54.040 a bit of a situation. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:55.240 Miracle has run away. 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.800 Oh no, well that's classic miracle too, by the way. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:58.599 Classic miracle. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.800 We've always said that on this show into state and 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.159 just goes enough. So poor Margaret, who's from Adelaide. She 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:05.320 has gone. 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.600 She sent thermal drones up to Cans to see if 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:14.279 they can find this dog. She's also hired a pet detective. 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:19.200 Back. 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.800 So this pet detective and they thought they may have 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.800 seen the dog one hundred and fifty kilometers from where 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:26.240 Miracle was. 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.360 But they are still trying to search for this dog. 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:33.919 So it leads the question how far have you gone 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:34.520 for your dog? 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.560 Links that you've gone, We've got too ridiculously spoilt sausage. 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:39.920 I do. 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.159 And about a year ago with it's nearly a year 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.440 since Tank got iv d D, which is a disk 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:45.679 issue in his back. 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:47.760 He's basically stopped walking overnight. 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.440 And I now every well we've we've gone out to 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.480 now eight every eight weeks I have to take him 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.560 to an animal chiropractor to get adjusted. 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.200 You're still taking him to the animal psych as well 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:00.680 needs one. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.400 But yeah, shout out to doctor Chris who literally has 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.000 saved his life Cloverly part chiropractic. I'm going to give 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.000 them a plug. Literally saved his life. We went to 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.320 the vet. The vet said, look, you need to do 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.240 ten to fifteen grand for surgery, and there's no guarantee 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.400 that he'll walk again, or you need to put him down. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.400 He is eight years old, maybe it's time. And I 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.960 was like, and Mom's like where there's got to be 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.160 another way. And we found doctor Chris, who never ever 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.200 ever not go to that's not Yeah, that's a nice 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.640 ending anyway. So I go to the animal chiropractor for 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:30.240 my dogs. 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:30.960 That's bad. 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.280 All they get you put. 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.239 Your you'd go to a chiropractic with your dogs before 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:36.440 you go for yourself when you're. 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.280 One hundred percent. I've stopped going to the chiropractor. Yeah, 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:40.440 those two dogs. 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:44.440 Yeah do you do you buy your dogs like special. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:46.640 Food or no? 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.360 Get they get like proper dog mins and they'll get 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.680 treats every now and then. But no, I'm not a 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.600 person who I used to get clothes for them, but 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.720 Tank hates them. You put clothes on them and he 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.360 just looks at you like you're an idiot, which I am. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.240 So see this look, same look and sat. 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.120 On his back as well. Mummy's little little boy. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.560 Yeah, No, I'm not like that. I'm not like a 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:09.880 normal dashound owner. 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:10.560 I don't do that. 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:11.440 Let's do. 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:17.720 What lengths have you gone to for your pet? Oh? Wow? 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.120 Is this bit triggering for you? She lost her little Indiana. 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:21.480 Yeah, we lost it, but we lost a due to 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:22.000 old age. 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:23.840 But we would have spent and I'd have to confirm 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.320 my wife tens and tens of thousands of dollars, like 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:31.120 back issues, she had a knee replacement, teeth surgery, so 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:32.000 many different sort. 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:33.280 Of bow in continents. 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.640 It's severe in constance. We almost had to put a 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:37.960 peg on it at one stage. But the amount of 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.280 times where it's like, nah, she's right off, or you 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.360 have radical surgery, and radical surgery got chosen every single 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:44.200 time and it worked. 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.000 Yeah, well not in the end, did it well? 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.280 Age got it in the end. I'll stop going after Indiana. 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.560 Bless her. She's watching from up above. She loves the show. 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.680 She's winging on the carpet as she watches. 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:00.520 She's winging in heaven as we speak. You appreciation for us, 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:03.800 I'll give u score thirteen twenty fourteen. The links that 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:05.320 you've gone to for your pets. 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.480 Let's go to Shelley. Even morning, Shelley, Good morning, guys. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:09.839 How are we tell us about your dog? 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:10.200 Please? 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:11.720 Okay? 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.240 They even after he passed away, I spent money, so 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:17.760 he had quite bad arthritis in his back legs and 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.920 a disease called pushing disease, so lost the strength of 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.360 his back legs. So we had he was on cartrophen, 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.280 he was on golden paste, which is like a form 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:32.160 of Timmerck. He was on ROAs hit powder. We were 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.360 doing hydrotherapy once a week. We were doing dry and needly. 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.560 He had a wheelchair in the air for his back legs, 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.040 and I used to push him to the park, make 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:42.800 him walk one side of the park to the other. 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:47.640 Gradually got smaller distance in a like a kid's bite trailer. 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:49.320 Yeah. 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:53.160 And then after he passed, I had he was the 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.000 last link to my mum because he was my mom's 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.760 dog originally, and I had him cremated. I had an 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:01.719 urn that matched my mom's and a little plank. I 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:05.800 had his ashes blown into a glass tapeway and I've 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:06.800 got a tattoo of him. 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.719 Oh my goodness, what a dog's name. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:13.800 His name was actually Kelly, but his. 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:18.280 Nickname was Schmooba Smoker, Smoker, schmollbar Schmoller. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:23.080 Beautiful Kelly, you clearly have a giant heart and we 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:23.440 love that. 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.160 Thank you, Thank you, Shelly, Thank you so much for 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.720 your call Monica. Good morning, good morning, how are you okay? 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.760 Tell us about We're good, thank you. Tell us about 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:34.960 your dog, my jog. 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.680 Simball was twelve years old, just about three years ago, 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.480 and he did the disc in his back that joined 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:44.240 his back legs yep, so he had. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:45.760 No movement in his back legs. 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:48.480 So I spent six. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.559 Weeks sleeping on the floor with him in my arms 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:55.080 like a baby. I kept him in a crater around 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.319 the corner in the corner while I was working from home. 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.520 I've got a headdressing fell on. I work in the 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:03.959 back at home, and I would take him to Evanston 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:08.200 Park to have boeen therapy twice a week, accupunture once 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.880 a week as well, so he would stay sleep. I 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.160 sleep on the single mattress on the floor with him 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:16.480 in my arm so he wouldn't get up and moved. 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.559 I had to pick him up and carry him, take 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:21.840 him out to the toilet, hold his black his back 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.080 legs so he can go to the toilet. So he 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.160 was nursed him back to health and he is writers 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:28.760 right now. 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.840 Strong, good, strong, happy ending. 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:35.720 I was waiting for it as well. I thought, geez, 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:36.240 I hope the big. 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.160 Fellow that ca now and now I'm super curious what 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:39.520 that alarm was to in her car? 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:41.439 Was probably the dog? 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:46.640 Get on, Emily, the lengths you've gone to for your pet. 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:51.040 So I had a lot of fish and U and 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:52.840 the rest of the fish died that I had just 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.880 one lonely lonely left over, and I felt real bad 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.839 for him. So I found like a classified ad where 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.680 a woman was thank people fish. So I took him 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:04.840 for a new home. He had to come to the 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.160 UNI with me in a bag in a cooler. And 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.000 then I met up with this random woman in a 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:12.959 car park at night and gave her my fish. 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.400 And there you go. 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.679 And Emily, how emotional was the departure? And what were 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:26.840 your last words? What were the last words exchanged? 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:31.480 Poor guys, fish isn't going to remember anyway. Trip around 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:35.320 that the fish bowl and it forgets everything you like? 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.320 What are you talking about? It changed your life? 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.720 A lot of really lovely pet owners out there going 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.240 above and beyond dedicated And what do you get from 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.680 return love and affection for your dog? 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:52.760 He's what you're waking up to, Adelaide. 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:59.800 What's said Abby in the news? 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:00.679 First up? 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:04.079 Just a family absolutely torn apart in the last few 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:05.000 days apps. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.600 Especially with Easter coming up on the long weekend. It 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:11.760 is just so tragic. We've had a family, a father 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:15.360 and a brother killed, a university professor, Danny Eckert and 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.440 his thirteen year old son. They were the two who 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.120 were winched to safety yesterday. So if you're not up 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.000 with it, basically a boat went out on the Sunday, 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.480 the family went out on a fishing trip. 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.600 A freak wave has capsized the boat. 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.280 As I said, Danny Eckert and his son were found 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.679 clinging to a reefness Bilsby Island yesterday morning. So they 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.280 were rescued taking a hospital. But Danny's father and brother 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:43.240 and the boat operator were killed. So it's just so 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:48.000 just horrible, so tragic, especially coming into Easter. Just such 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.840 a freak accident. So our thoughts are with their family. 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.679 The boat now will be subject to a forensic investigation. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.760 There was one who was found to seize who did 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.559 have a life jacket near him, so you hope that 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.800 you know that sort of saved the Danny and his son. 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.280 But yeah, where we get to hear more details around it, 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:08.000 loot tragedy. 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:08.920 Absolutely horrible. 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.520 Also in other news elective surgery is being canned across 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.840 our public hospitals because the health system is trying to 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:16.760 cope with demand. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.120 So the band took effect from midnight. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.120 It's all non urgent surgery, which is categories two and 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.160 three in the metro area. They'll be postponed until tomorrow night. 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.680 IVF procedures will still go ahead. 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:27.920 I know. 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:29.960 I've got a few friends who are going through that 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.280 battle at the moment, and they were quite worried. Yeah, 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.000 but IVF will still go ahead. 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:35.360 So I was. 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.520 Unfortunately in Flinder's last week, I had a two and 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:40.960 a half hour wait, which I didn't think was too bad, 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.280 but you know, you can definitely tell that they're under 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.800 pressure and there's a lot of stress in hospitals at 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:46.160 the moment. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:52.720 Yeah, So overnight, just unbelievable scenes out of Baltimore. So 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:56.240 a cargo ship is basically lost power and rammed into 0:14:56.240 --> 0:15:01.280 a major bridge, destroying the entire span in the matter 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:01.840 of moments. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:03.880 What about the vision as well, Yeah, it just looks 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.520 like obviously it's sped up, but it looks like it 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.680 sort of flicks this bridge. The bridge just goes bang 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.520 straight into the water like it it's ridiculous. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.200 So it happened around one thirty in the morning, thank goodness, 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.760 because that bridge is chockers during the day in peak 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:20.200 our commute. Apparently twelve million people crossed it last year alone, 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:24.320 So six people are missing and the water around the 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.760 bridge is only about eight degrees celsius. 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:27.480 Wow. 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:31.120 So and I think apparently some sonar has detected cars 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:33.720 in the water as well. So that is very much 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.800 an unfolding story and we will keep you up to 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.720 date throughout the morning. They are they're luckily, yeah, they 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.360 luckily could do a bit of a may day call 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.480 before it happened, so they stopped cars from entering, but 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:46.360 one point thirty in the morning there were still people 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.080 on there. So yeah, well I think they were workers, 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.120 construction workers. Yeah, they're the ones that are that are missing. 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:53.880 Perhabs. You mentioned this in the news. 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.360 This is the outrageous situation at the Melbourne Football Club. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.200 And as if their last couple of years hasn't been 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:03.720 tumultuous enough, so former Melbourne football cop doctor has admitted 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.880 to conducting off the books illicit drug tests, allegedly authorized 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.600 by the AFL to help players evade detection on matchdays. 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:12.960 This is ridiculous. 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.520 So this particular doctor says players who confess to having 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.120 taken drugs in the days before afl games were given 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.280 secret tests to ensure their systems were clear, or advised 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.240 to fake an injury so they would not risk being 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.400 tested and suspended for breaches for the World Anti Doping 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:28.880 Agency code. 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.480 Oh my very goodness, Erry Murky, I just don't know 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.320 how Simon Goodwin's going to talk his way out of that. 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:38.040 I know. Yeah, that's messy, isn't it. That's got shades 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.600 of the Essenon supplement scandal. 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:42.280 It is a big time scandal. 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:42.600 Now. 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:44.480 It is interesting though you sort of read it and 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.520 you go okay. But then obviously we had two AFLW 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:49.960 players who were caught with what is said to be 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:54.920 cocaine in December. So obviously drugs are around and people 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:55.720 are doing them. 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.280 Yes, But the broader point is when you're doing things 0:16:58.280 --> 0:16:59.920 to try and skip what Ward is trying to do, 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.800 you're in big, big trouble. And also if you take 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:04.639 a list in substances and it's out of season or 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.879 it's out of match day officially, it's what a fine 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.600 or a strike versus I know, the AFLW don't have 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:14.080 an anti drugs program right now, but versus on game day, 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.080 for example, two to four year bam. Yeah, so there's 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:17.920 a big, big difference. 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:19.359 Have you ever read Ben cousins book. 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:20.359 It's outrageous, isn't it? 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:20.840 Like what? 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.560 I haven't read his book, but I watched the doco 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.000 that he did, and I remember the pit that stood 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.600 out for me was him coming home to his wife 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:30.280 and going. 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.399 It's Christmas and I've got this bick and blah blah. 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.199