1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: On scors Australia. This is the Rider Panete Show. 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panahi Show. I'm 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: Caroline Marcus filling in for Rita. Coming up tonight. Five 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: members of the Iranian women's soccer team now safe after 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: fleeing their hotel late last night. Daniel Wilde will join 6 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: me on that and the day's other top headlines. Ozzie's 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: kept in the dark when it comes to data on 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: puberty blockers. Stephanie Bastian will explain that, and the latest 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: scandal involving the ABC New York mayor's or own mum. 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: Danny is considering getting rid of all free parking in 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: the city after running his campaign on making everything free. 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: Koshagada will weigh in and fears for Britney Spears's mental 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: health after she was caught. 14 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: Driving under the influence. 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: Loftis will cover that and the latest entertainment news. And 16 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: in Lefties Losing It, activists get Scissa happy in protest 17 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: of ice, which. 18 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 4: Is the first American flag I've ever owned, and I'm 19 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 4: about to shred it. 20 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: But let's begin with the five members of the Iranian 21 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: women's soccer team who have now been granted humanitarian visas 22 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: after escaping a. 23 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: Gold Coast hotel. 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: Late last night with the help of Australian Federal Police. 25 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: The players reportedly slipped past official team minders suspected of 26 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: being Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps officials, shortly before seven pm, 27 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: seeking protection from local authorities. They're now being held in 28 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: a safe house in Brisbane, while Home Affairs has refuted 29 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: reports of another three players fleeing the team hotel. 30 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: I just love this. The five players broke out into 31 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: azi azzi azzi Oi oi oi. 32 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: When they were told they could stay. Home Affairs Minister 33 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: Tony Burke said other members of the team are being 34 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: offered the same chance to apply for asylum. 35 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 5: I signed off last night for their applications to go 36 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 5: on to humanitarian visas. I say to the other members 37 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 5: of the team, the same opportunity is there. Australia has 38 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 5: taken the Iranian women's soccer team into our hearts, but. 39 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: This move was only announced after a phone call between 40 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: US President Donald Trump and Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi. President 41 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: Trump had posted to truth Social overnight Australia is making 42 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: a terrible humanitarian mistake by allowing the Iran national women's 43 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: soccer team to be forced back to Iran where they 44 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: will most likely be ki. Don't do it, mister Prime Minister, 45 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: give asylum. The US will take them if you won't. 46 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: Thank you for your attention to this matter. But there 47 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: was a very different post from Trump after the phone 48 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: call he had with Prime Minister Anthony Alberzi. The President 49 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: now writing, I just spoke to Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi 50 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: of Australia concerning the Iranian women's soccer team. 51 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 3: He's on it. 52 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 2: Five have already been taken care of, and the rest 53 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: are on their way. Some, however, feel they must go 54 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: back because they are worried about the safety of their families, 55 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: including threats to those family members if they don't return. 56 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: In any event, the Prime Minister is doing a very 57 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: good job having to do with this rather delicate situation. 58 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: God bless Australia well. Joining me now is the Deputy 59 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: Executive Director of the Institute of Public Affairs, Daniel Wilde. 60 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: Daniel, this is a welcome. 61 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: Result, no doubt for these players, although concern does remain 62 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: for the welfare of the other players heading back to 63 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: a run where they've been branded wartime. 64 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: Traders, But it is a real shift. 65 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: In the government's response to this from earlier in this 66 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: whole saga. You'll remember the Assistant Minister for Foreign Affairs, 67 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: Matt this Alweit had said that the players would not 68 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: be given preferential treatment. What do you think was behind 69 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: this apparent change of heart? Was it US intervention here 70 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: or do you think the government had been working all 71 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: along towards this. 72 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: Well, it's a couple of things. 73 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 6: I mean, it does look like the US is intervening 74 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 6: in our domestic affairs, trying to dictate our immigration policy, 75 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 6: and you know, it should be the Australian government that 76 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 6: has sovereignty over what arrangements can be made. So it's 77 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 6: hard to avoid the conclusion that Anthony Abernezi is kowtowing 78 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 6: to the Trump administration, which is an interesting turn of events. 79 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 6: I think in terms of the domestic side of it, well, 80 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 6: I think it's good and positive that we're able to 81 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 6: welcome people who are under a threat from their home country. 82 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 6: But it's difficult to see this as anything other than political. 83 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 6: You know, the migration policy of this government has in 84 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 6: the main been driven by political considerations rather than humanitarian, 85 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 6: economic or social consideration, So that would have been very 86 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 6: much the rubric. I guarantee you they would have had 87 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 6: the electric map out in the offices when they're looking 88 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 6: as to where these people are going to be resettled. 89 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 6: That's how this government works, and I doubt that this 90 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 6: is any different two past decisions they've taken. 91 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: Well. 92 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: I wonder how popular the decision would be in some 93 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 2: of the seats that labor ministers like Tony Boke himself holds, 94 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: because we've seen a lot of those seats be threatened 95 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: by the rise of Muslim independents who've supported the pro 96 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: Palestine movement, but they haven't been very active or vocal 97 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: at all when it comes to protecting their reigning regime. 98 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: I tend to think that in this case, it is 99 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: the right move from the government and a bit of 100 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 2: a departure from previous moves where they haven't exactly been 101 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 2: too keen to fall in line with the US on 102 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: things like Gaza for instance. 103 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 104 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 6: Well, the one thing I know is Tony Burke wouldn't 105 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 6: do it if it didn't suit Tony Burke, So you 106 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 6: know that much is clear, you know, And I think 107 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 6: it's a shame because Australians don't have any confidence in 108 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 6: our migration system overall because it has been used for 109 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 6: political purposes. I'm not saying every single decision has been 110 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 6: taken for that reason. 111 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: But a lot have. 112 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 6: And you know, the other concern I have here is 113 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 6: that we don't want to see a double standard. We 114 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 6: want to help as many people as we can, and 115 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 6: people who are in genuine need off refuge should be 116 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 6: welcomed into our country. But that shouldn't just be because 117 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 6: they're in a sporting team. And I certainly hope that 118 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 6: this decision hasn't just been taken because it's high profile 119 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 6: and it's going to get a lot of media interest 120 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 6: in that fact, because there could be many other worthy 121 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 6: people that are now being excluded from coming to our 122 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 6: country who may be even more needy than those who 123 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 6: the Iranian soccer team. So I hate to think that 124 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 6: this is being done simply because it's a high profile 125 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 6: case that gets good publicity. 126 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 7: Well. 127 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: Look, I think it's a large part of it, but 128 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone can deny that these women were 129 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: truly at risk. After refusing to sing the national anthem 130 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: at one of their first games, they faced horrible consequences 131 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: back in their home country. 132 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: Look. 133 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, President Trump provided an update earlier today, saying the 134 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: US has achieved major strides towards completing its military objective 135 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: in Iran, with every single force wiped out. 136 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 8: We're achieving major strides toward completing our military objective, and 137 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 8: people could say they're pretty well complete. We've wiped every 138 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 8: single force in Iran out very completely. Most of Iran's 139 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 8: naval power has been sunk. It's in the bottom of 140 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 8: the sea. 141 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: Iranian state television has also reported the country's newly installed 142 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: Supreme Leader ma Shabahamane was wounded during the ongoing conflict, 143 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: although it's not clear exactly when that happened. Dan, do 144 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: you see this conflict being over anytime soon or do 145 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: you share the concerns of some of Trump's critics many 146 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: in the US that this could be a forever war. 147 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: Well, I hope Trump's right. 148 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 6: I hope it is near completion because it was a 149 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 6: good move to take out the Iranian regime and to 150 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 6: stop their nuclear program. 151 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: There's no doubt doubt about that. 152 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 6: The big question has always been, as it always is 153 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 6: in any of these cases, is well, what comes next? 154 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 6: And so you know, we saw with Iraq, which I 155 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 6: think was a justifiable intervention to start with, but the 156 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 6: question was, well what do you do when you're removed 157 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 6: that avasane and they tried to implement democratic institutions, which 158 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 6: is understandable but ultimately failed. 159 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: So that's the big question here. 160 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 6: And I understand the reservations that some have, particularly those 161 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 6: in or to the MAGA base, about not wanting to 162 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 6: get drawn into a protracted conflict. So if Trump is 163 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 6: able to draw a line underneath it, you'd have to 164 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 6: say he's done a remarkable job in being able to 165 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 6: execute a discrete and targeted military objective without getting the 166 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 6: US drawn into a broader regional conflict. That would be 167 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 6: an outstanding and very rare achievement. So if he has 168 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 6: done that, or if he can draw that to a close, 169 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 6: you know, he gets a ten out of ten for it. 170 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: I certainly hope that's the case. 171 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: Let's hope. 172 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 7: So. 173 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 2: Albanizy has also announced Australia will send missiles, EIGHTYF personnel 174 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: and an E seven a wedge tail plane to help 175 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: Golf states defend them to defend these Golf states under 176 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: attack from Iranian drones and missiles, but the Prime Minister 177 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 2: reiterated Australia will not be involved in any possible troop 178 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: deployment in around itself, will be involved in offensive strikes. Daniel, 179 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: what do you make of that announcement? Should we be 180 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: more involved in this conflict or do you think we're 181 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: right to take this approach? 182 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 6: From my perspective, it looks like a pretty good approach, 183 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 6: a pretty balanced approach to start with. I don't know 184 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 6: what the US has asked of us. Perhaps they asked 185 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 6: for more and we didn't want to give it. I 186 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 6: don't know. I tend to be of the view that 187 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 6: the US is our most important ally. That has been 188 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 6: the case since World War Two and will be the 189 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 6: case now for many decades to come. So we need 190 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 6: to be a good, reliable and dependable ally. And if 191 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 6: the US has requested this of us, I'm not just 192 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 6: saying we do whatever the US wants, but we need 193 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 6: to play our role in that alliance. So if the 194 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 6: US has made it clear that this contribution will make 195 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 6: a difference to that effort, then this is a very 196 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 6: good move. So we'll wait and see whether anything else 197 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 6: is requested. I don't think that our troops should go there, 198 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 6: certainly not at this stage. So to me, on the 199 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 6: face of it, it seems like a reasonable balance. 200 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you'd have to say that Trump has spoken 201 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: very highly of Anthony ALBINIZI if he wasn't meeting the 202 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: demands from the United States of this, I think we 203 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: would hear about it. The war is also sparking huge 204 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: fears meanwhile about Australia's economic stability. There are concerns that 205 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: inflation in Australia could jump as high as five percent 206 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: in coming months due to the petrol supply crunch. But 207 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: what's Treasurer Jim Chalmers's biggest concern at the moment changes 208 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,119 Speaker 2: to the capital gains tax discount. 209 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: The Australian reports. 210 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: Treasury is modeling scrapping the entire capital gains tax discount 211 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: on investment properties and replacing it with a flat tax 212 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: and indexation. Daniel, has the government got its priorities right here. 213 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: Look at this very point in time. Probably not. 214 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 6: I am intrigued though about the flat tax. I'm not 215 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 6: sure if that refers to personal income or something else. 216 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: But certainly if they're saying they're going to. 217 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 6: Remove the negative gearing or the capital gains tax benefits 218 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 6: and to replace that with a flat income tax with 219 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 6: the e come tax rates to be indexed. I'm not 220 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 6: sure you'd need indexation of its flat, but anyway, that 221 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 6: could be something to look at. You know, the problem 222 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 6: has always been, well, if you're simply going to remove 223 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 6: the capital gains tax discount and not do anything else, 224 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 6: and that's going to be a big tax slug. But 225 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 6: if they're offsetting it somewhere else in the tax system, 226 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 6: then that's something that we should keep an open mind towards. 227 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 6: Look in terms of the domestic situation with the inflation 228 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 6: and the fuel and oil, well, this is a domestic 229 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 6: disaster in the making for many years. I mean, we've 230 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 6: only got two oil refineries left in this country, which 231 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 6: has been a result of policy decisions taken by successive 232 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 6: governments in the name of climate change and net zero. 233 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 6: We import something like ninety percent of our liquid oil stock. 234 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 6: There's no reason for that. We have plenty of crude 235 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 6: oil in our country. We should have more refineries, not fewer, 236 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 6: and we should have our own sovereign abilities to refine 237 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 6: the oil for our own domestic market should we need to. 238 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 6: So Look, this is another example of what happens when 239 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 6: we outsource our manufacturing and industrial capabilities. When the wheeze 240 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 6: is on, you know we miss out. 241 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and farmers. 242 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: An independent fuel retail is a warning of the supply 243 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: crisis and how it's left parts of Australia running out 244 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: of fuel and of course leading to panic buying with 245 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: seeing long queues out of petrol station. So I dare 246 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: say this isn't going to wrap up anytime soon with 247 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: this conflict ongoing. Let's quickly talk about this year's Sydney Baynale, 248 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: which has opened without its controversial artistic director attending the 249 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: exhibition's launch. The Emirati Princess jor Al Cassimi had been 250 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: expected at today's opening, but organizers said she wants to 251 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: the focus day on the artists and their work. But 252 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: her absence comes after a former Biinali director, Maurice Schwartz, 253 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: raised concerns that the country's largest contemporary art event could 254 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 2: provide a platform for vocal anti semites and The Australian 255 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: is also reporting today that krla Zan Patty Chief executive 256 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: Officer Alex Schuman will host a party for the bayern 257 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: Aarley patrons at his penthouse apartment, and that's despite having 258 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: such concerns about the overwhelmingly pro Palestinian programming that he 259 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: had the company pull its funding from the event. So 260 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: a little bit of a turnaround there, Daniel. 261 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: We've seen the arts sector. 262 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: Here become an increasingly hostile place for Jews or Zionists, 263 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: as the artists themselves like to call them. What do 264 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: you make about this turnaround from one of our biggest 265 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: fashion companies. 266 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 6: Well, I'm mean it shows that the tide right be 267 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 6: turning a little bit on this issue. But you know, 268 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 6: I'm deeply disappointed in what's happened in the arts sector 269 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 6: over not just recently, but over many many years. I mean, 270 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 6: the anti semitism and the platform for one group of 271 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 6: people based on their beliefs that the exclusion of others 272 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 6: is the most recent manifestation of an art sector that's 273 00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 6: becoming divisive. 274 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: Art is something that should bring people together. 275 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 6: It should speak to timeless human values of beauty and truth, 276 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 6: rather than engaging in fairly low rent, day to day 277 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 6: political propaganda and activism. Also, a lot of the artistic 278 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 6: community is depended upon government subsidization in some way, shape 279 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 6: or form. Now there is a role for that to 280 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 6: tax pays to support certain artistic endeavors, but there is 281 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 6: absolutely no role for that money to be put to 282 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 6: a political use. That is unfair that tax payers need 283 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 6: to fund that. So I just think it's an example 284 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 6: of wherever we turn in our society, sport, art, schooling 285 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 6: elsewhere unfortunately have been turned into platforms for political grandstanding 286 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 6: rather than undertaking things that can unite the community. And 287 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 6: I hope that we are at a turning point too. 288 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: True and sadly, as you point out, our taxpayer funding 289 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: is going straight towards that. Daniel Wilds, thank you so much. 290 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: True time tonight, let's bring in Women's Forum Australia ahead 291 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: of advocacy now, Stephanie Bass, Stephanie, good to see you. 292 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: We spoke earlier in the program about the Iranian women's 293 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: soccer team. 294 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: They have of course been. 295 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: Granted humanitarian visas and Anthony Albanizi has extended an offer 296 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: of assistance to the other team members. He said his 297 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: government had been preparing for some time for these defections. Stephanie, 298 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: despite the silence from many feminists on the left on 299 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: the plight of Iranian women and other women living under 300 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: Islamist rule. This is some very welcome news for these 301 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: five offered asylum. 302 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 9: Well good evening, Caroline, great to join you. Yes, of 303 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 9: course it is. 304 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 10: I mean, we have protection visas for situations like this, 305 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 10: so very welcome news. I do not understand the feminist 306 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 10: so called feminists that are silent on this issue. We 307 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 10: know how women, particularly brave women like these Iranian women. 308 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 9: Who have obviously stood in solidarity with. 309 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 10: Their felomen back home as they try and fight the 310 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 10: regime are. 311 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 9: Treated, particularly women. 312 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 10: Some of the report thought about the abuse and sexual 313 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 10: assaults are horrendous. So I just I do not understand 314 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 10: where these feminists are coming from. I can only assume 315 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 10: that they're so caught up in their omni causes. They 316 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 10: hate the West so much that they're quite happy to 317 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 10: decide with oppressive regimes. I mean, it makes as much 318 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 10: sense as you know queers for Palestine. So yes, once 319 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 10: again brilliant news about the fact that these women are 320 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 10: being offered protection at this time, and I look forward 321 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 10: to seeing this situation evolve. 322 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you've nailed it. 323 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 2: I think it's driven by the utter hatred of the 324 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: West that they've chosen these very strange bedfellows who are 325 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: certainly no fans of women and no supporters of women. 326 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the former liberal health ministers who've called 327 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 2: out the high degree of secrecy being adopted across the 328 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 2: country when it comes to releasing data on puberty blockers. 329 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: It's been revealed six out of eight states and territories 330 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: have refused to release any information on the number of 331 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: children prescribe puberty blockers to treat gender dysphoria. Former Prime 332 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: Minister Tony Abbott, who is Health Minister from two thousand 333 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 2: and three to two thousand and seven, called for a 334 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: full national inquiry into the matter. Stephanie, this is outrageous, 335 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 2: especially as there's more evidence emerging now about the flaws 336 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: in this gender affirming healthcare model. 337 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: Oh. 338 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 10: Absolutely, this is a huge scandal. I mean, we call 339 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 10: this contested science, but there's very little to contest about 340 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 10: what we know in terms of. 341 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 9: The side effects of these drugs. 342 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 10: It is completely unacceptable that they're not keeping recalled. There 343 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 10: is regulatory oversight for these drugs used for their intended purpose, 344 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 10: but none when they're being given to minors. 345 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 9: With these horrific side effects. 346 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 10: Of things like cancer and image damaged to bone density 347 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 10: and infertility. It's absolutely shameful. I'm so pleased that Tony 348 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 10: Abbot is continuing to support calls for a national inquiry. 349 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 10: Queensland has held a small enquiry of its own and 350 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 10: the findings there have been so aiming that they've restricted 351 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 10: the use of puberty blockers until the Queen until the 352 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 10: UK complete their trials. So the fact that our federal 353 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 10: government hasn't reacted in response to that. In fact, private 354 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 10: practice is now prescribing these drugs and it's been fundraised 355 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 10: through OSPATH. There's been no response by the federal minister 356 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 10: in relation to that. But we need an urgent national 357 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 10: inquiry because all the states are doing different things. It's 358 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 10: hard to know what's going on and they're not being 359 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 10: forthcoming with the data. 360 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some shroud of secrecy around this issue is ludicrous. 361 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: But there's another outrageous story because the ABC has refused 362 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: to reveal key documents submitted to trans lobby Group ACON 363 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: in the broadcasters pursuit of gold and platinum status with 364 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: the charity. The public broadcaster declined to hand over more 365 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: than a dozen submitted documents and heavily redacted others that 366 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: it did release to the Australian newspaper. Under freedom of information. 367 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: The ABC is required by law to release documents Stephanie, 368 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: unless it would, on balance be contrary to the public interest, 369 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: but the broadcaster claims this issue is of only moderate 370 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 2: public interest and disclosure would adversely impact its business affairs. 371 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 2: As Stephanie, I'm sure you'd agree this is unacceptable. I 372 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: don't think it's a moderate interest. 373 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: What's happening in this. 374 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: Issue, and this is a taxpayer funded organization to the 375 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: tune of a billion dollars a year. We deserve to 376 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: know if it's been compromised in its impartiality covering such 377 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: a public interest topic as this. 378 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 10: No, I've got absolutely no doubt in my mind, nor 379 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 10: would anyone else look at these issues that it is compromised. 380 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 10: You can see in the lack of its reporting, particularly 381 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 10: around issues. For example, in the High Court there's been 382 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 10: a number of serious judgments involving young people being put 383 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 10: on puberty blockers and cross sex hormones. The prison issue 384 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 10: where male trans identifying prisoners have been housing women's prisons 385 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 10: and those women subsequently assaulted. There's a whole range of 386 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 10: issues around gender ideology that they are either not reporting 387 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 10: on or reporting in favor of transactivists. 388 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 9: This is not good enough because as you mentioned, they 389 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 9: have a. 390 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 10: Billion dollar budget and on top of that, they are 391 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 10: still widely used by the Australian people. Forty five percent 392 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 10: over twelve million people still go to the ABC for 393 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 10: their news and they are not being informed of the 394 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 10: facts as these things develop, which is very serious because 395 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 10: the harms of gender ideology are really coming to the 396 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 10: surface now and with their queer channel on Instagram, the 397 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 10: fact that they're still promoting gender ideology and the transition 398 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 10: of kids. It's devastating for these developments and it's just 399 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 10: keeping the public in the dark and quite frankly, I 400 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 10: think the ABC should be really wound back in its 401 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 10: funding and just kept reporting basic news items. 402 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: Look before you go one again your reaction quickly to 403 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: the story broken by Ben Fordham on two GB. He's 404 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: spoken with a woman who claimed that a brutal serial 405 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: killer who now identifies as a woman, has moved in 406 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: with two young foster children aged twelve and fourteen in 407 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: Western Sydney. Reginald Arthurrel, who goes now by Regina, was 408 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 2: released from prison in twenty twenty after serving a twenty 409 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: four year sentence for murder of a woman in central 410 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: western New South Wales. Arthur All's five year extended supervision 411 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: order expired in December. 412 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four. 413 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: No application was made to the court to extend the 414 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 2: monitoring period. Stephanie, the fact he's now apparently living with 415 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: a woman and two children, that's very worrying, isn't it. 416 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 10: It's very disturbing, And the fact is less than four 417 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 10: years ago he was also convicted of another sex offense. 418 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 10: I mean, I just have to wonder whether his transition 419 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 10: is the reason that the authorities no longer want to 420 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 10: look into it. Sometimes they feel like there's accusations around 421 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 10: Transfhobi you're tied to this. But it's absolutely not good enough. 422 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 10: There are children now that are at risk, young people 423 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 10: who are early teens, twelve and fourteen. 424 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 9: I believe they are who are at risk living with 425 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 9: this man. 426 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 10: And even the daughter felt that her own mother was 427 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 10: being manipulated by this person. So it's absolutely not good 428 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 10: enough that the police aren't looking into it, and I 429 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 10: think the New South Wales Corrections Minister should be asking questions. 430 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, clearly there's something not right with him. Mentally, so 431 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 2: he should be monitored at the very least. Stephanie Bastian, 432 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. Still to come. 433 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: Feminists for Palestine attack Iranians protesting for women's rights under 434 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: Islamists rule. These people have no shame or brains. That's 435 00:23:47,840 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 2: next on Left, he's losing it. Welcome Back is filling 436 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 2: in for reader, and now it's time the left, he's 437 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 2: losing it. The Democratic nominee for Texas, James Tallerico, has 438 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 2: a history of controversial statements, including once claiming God is 439 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 2: non binary. Now, the self described progressive Christian is being 440 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 2: mocked for telling a podcast he loves trans children. 441 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 11: Something that you love that's not family or friends. 442 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 12: I love and just. 443 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: Saying this because it's on my mind. 444 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 12: The trans children who. 445 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 13: Showed up yesterday at the state capitol to advocate for 446 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 13: their humanity. 447 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 2: Right, you love trans children. That's not crippy at all. Meanwhile, 448 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,239 Speaker 2: he's a transgender adults calling for activists to target a 449 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: US boutique after being rejected for a job the store, 450 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: pointing out it only hires women to help dress girls 451 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: and women in their changing rooms. 452 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 13: One it's Emily, I'm here at the Wheaton Mountains in Wheaton, Maryland, 453 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 13: and despite this store being hiring, you have beautiful justices. 454 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: I just went in and asked if I could be hired. 455 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 9: And they told me that I couldn't because. 456 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 12: I'm not a woman and only a woman can work 457 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 12: at that job. 458 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 4: So Cinderella in the. 459 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: Wheaten Mall, you're on notice. 460 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: Sorry again, not creepy it ll Meanwhile, an artist called 461 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: Cricket has cut up the American flag out of anger 462 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 2: at us. 463 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 12: This is the first American flag I've ever owned, and 464 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 12: I'm about to shred it. 465 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: Someone please remove all sharp instruments from that individual. Cricket, though, 466 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 2: is now planning to make a cozy quilt with the 467 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: shredded flag and patches with the names of illegal aliens 468 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: who've lost their lives in ICE custody, as well as 469 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: protesters who were killed during anti ice action, but nothing 470 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: with the names of Americans killed by illegal aliens. 471 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: Of course. 472 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: Now check out this Canadian tiktoker's foulmouth plea for someone 473 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 2: to take out Trump over his operation to disarm the 474 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: truly evil Iranian regime, while throwing in the old libel 475 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: he's a pedophile for good measure. 476 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 4: Can Anybody tell me why this world is headed into 477 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 4: World War three just to protect a pedophile piece of. 478 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: Why somebody take him out? 479 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: Well, let's hope she's never allowed over the border now. 480 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: Tucker Carson is by no means a lefty. It's what 481 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: I would call the new woke right. But his latest 482 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: take on Trump's military action in Iran is so unhinged 483 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: you have to now admit the man has well and 484 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 2: truly lost it. 485 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 14: Unconditional surrender means foreign troops get to rape your wife 486 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 14: and daughter if they want, and everyone knows that, and 487 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 14: that has been if there's one consistent lesson of history means, 488 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 14: unconditional surrender means foreign troops get to rape your wife 489 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 14: and daughter. Everyone can feel that. 490 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: That is bonkers and I am truly lost for words. 491 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: But speaking of bonkers. 492 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: Check out these useful idiots at a Feminists for Palestine 493 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 2: rally in London over the weekend, screeching at Iranian dissidents 494 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: fighting for women back home living under real oppression. Way, 495 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: maybe these feminists should try protesting in Iran and see 496 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 2: how long they last there. But let's finish now with 497 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: a few words from the CEO of United Airlines Scott Kirby. 498 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 2: He joined the Katie Miller podcast where he claimed his 499 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: company only hired pilots on merit. 500 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 6: How do you reassure passengers that says who's flying your 501 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 6: plane is the one for the job, who is qualified 502 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 6: at his merit based. 503 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 15: So I can't speak the FA but I can speak 504 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 15: to United and by the way, I can speak the 505 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 15: whole airline industry when I say this, we hire based 506 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 15: on merit and we only hire the best. 507 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: Sounds good, but that seems very different to what he 508 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: has said previously during an interview with Axios five years ago. 509 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 13: We have committed that fifty percent of the class of 510 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 13: the classes will be women are people of color. Today, 511 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 13: only nineteen percent of our pilots at United Airlines are 512 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 13: women or people of color, and by the way, from 513 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 13: all the data I've seen, that's the highest of any 514 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 13: airline in the country. One of the things we do 515 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 13: is for every job, when we're doing an interview or 516 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 13: require women and people of color to be involved in 517 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 13: the interview process, bringing people in early in their careers 518 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 13: as well and giving them those opportunities. 519 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: Sorry, Scott, the internet has a long memory. Well. 520 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: Joining me now is Sky Andese contributor Kosher Gada. 521 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: And let's get back to that top. 522 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: Story about the Iranian women's soccer team we mentioned earlier 523 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: in the show. Donald Trump had praised the Prime minister 524 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: for his role in securing the safety of some of 525 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: these players, but that praise came after Trump had earlier 526 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: accused Australia making a terrible mistake by letting these women 527 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: go back to Iran and implore to Albanizi to give 528 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: them asylum. Kosha, do you think the President helped to 529 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: change Australia's mind here after this reported forty minute conversation 530 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: on the phone between the leaders, or had he just 531 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: not been made aware of the back channel work that 532 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: was already in place to help these women. 533 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 16: I think it's a fair assumption to make. I mean, 534 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 16: we'll never know the intricacies of the timeline and how 535 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 16: much backchanneling was happening that President Trump was or wasn't 536 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 16: aware of. But I think if the President of the 537 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 16: United States goes on social media and publicly names and 538 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 16: shames another world leader, prime Minister Aben Easy in this case, 539 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 16: and chastising him for not doing more or not doing 540 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 16: it more quickly, I'd have to imagine that that had 541 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 16: some effect and at least turning up the pressure the heat, 542 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 16: even if maybe that was already in process. And he 543 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 16: certainly called global attention to it and amplified the issue 544 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 16: on the world stage in a way that only he can. 545 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 546 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: True, and you know, the language from the government had 547 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: been really cautious about this issue, and that even initially delied. 548 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 3: One minister had delied that. 549 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: They could give preferential treatment to these soccer players. 550 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: So it was a real shift. 551 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: Donald Trump in the US has now been demanding that 552 00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 2: Senate Republicans ram his voter id laws through the upper 553 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: chamber and a truth Social post another one. He went 554 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: so far as to say he won't sign other bills 555 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: until this one is passed. Now it comes as the 556 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: US Senate is wrestling with reopening the Department of Homeland Security. 557 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: It's entered its fourth week of shutdown. A White House 558 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: official had to clarify to Fox News that Trump wasn't 559 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: referring to the Department when he made his comment about 560 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: not passing bills. Kosher, what is this whole thing all about. 561 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 16: Yeah, so there's two issues over there that you know, 562 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 16: sort of get mixed and they're related. But the issue 563 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 16: that Trump is maximizing pressure on is passing the so 564 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 16: called Save Act that would mandate proof of citizenship in 565 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 16: order for confirming that the person trying to vote is 566 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 16: actually you a citizen and therefore has the right to vote. 567 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 16: It's an eighty twenty issue. There are many of those 568 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 16: in the country. That's very divided right now, very very popular, 569 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 16: and even though the Republicans the House and the Senate 570 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 16: and the White House, they've been really really slow and 571 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 16: dragging their feet to bring this to the floor in 572 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 16: the Senate. It has passed the House, and now the 573 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 16: Senate needs to bring it to the floor. There's all 574 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 16: sorts of machinations and horse trading supposedly going on behind 575 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 16: the scenes, and it's just another reminder of how a 576 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 16: big faction of the Republican Party is not really that 577 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 16: supportive of the Trump agenda. The more establishment wing. They're 578 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 16: sort of dragged along, kicking and screaming. The Department of 579 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 16: Homeland Security issue is separate, where they've been mired in 580 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 16: controversy a little bit. The Secretary Gnome has been removed 581 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 16: from her position. 582 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: There were those. 583 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 16: Bad events that happened in Minneapolis recently, So they're just 584 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 16: trying to use that the Democrats, I think, to make 585 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 16: hay of that situation and sort of hold the funding 586 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 16: of that department hostage. But that is separate from the 587 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 16: Save Act and a few other things that President Trump 588 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 16: is putting in there, and he is saying that that 589 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 16: is existential. It is fundamental to the country's security and 590 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 16: democracy and sovereignty. Get it done. Don't show me any 591 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 16: other bill until this has past. 592 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: You'd think it would be fairly straightforward. People have to 593 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: show their idea if. 594 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 3: They want to vote. 595 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: It's one of those issues that seem strange to us 596 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 2: here in Australia, where we have compulsory voting and people 597 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: need to be registered and show their idea. But anyway, 598 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: a video has gone viral of Congressman Brian Mask questioning 599 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 2: a State Department official over Biden era grants. The DEI 600 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: programs around the world take a look as she tries 601 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: and fails to explain what she means by making a 602 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: map more gay? 603 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 3: But what is queering the map? 604 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 11: So I think we were trying to make the maps 605 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 11: more gay. 606 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 3: Literally, well, how do you make a map more gay? 607 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 11: I mean, especially we're gay. You know, since the age 608 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 11: of cartography, we've had pretty good maps, but maybe they 609 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 11: weren't gay enough. 610 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 3: So I know. 611 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 11: Also, I took critical theory in college. I think sometimes 612 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 11: people use queer as a verb. I do understand that 613 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 11: the maps that we were trying to make gay were 614 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 11: I think of Chukia and Slova, so maybe those countries 615 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 11: asked for it. I doubt it, but I don't. 616 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 3: Know kosher, I mean, this is loopy. 617 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 2: Can we just go back to how can a map 618 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: be gay in the first place? 619 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 16: You and me, both Carolina are scratching our heads and 620 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 16: millions of other people. I thought for a moment when 621 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 16: she referenced her credential and whatever degree she had, I 622 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 16: forget what it was, but I was thinking, maybe it's 623 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 16: like English, Lid, and she's going back to old world English. 624 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 3: We're gay and happy, and she's trying to make the 625 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 3: maps happy. I don't know. 626 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 16: I really wasn't a. 627 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 3: Lot, she said, referring to there. But yeah's disappointed and clarified. 628 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 16: Yes, it's you know, it's just an example of the 629 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 16: money that was slashing around for many years, actually even 630 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 16: before Biden, but certainly accelerated under Biden. Usaid all these 631 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 16: DEI programs all over the world. There's like a gay 632 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 16: friendly Sesame Street episode somewhere in the Middle East, and 633 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 16: then Irish dancing that was queer, and now this, and 634 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 16: the second story beneath that is not only is this 635 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 16: pushing an agenda that nobody wants globally using taxpayer dollars, 636 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 16: but also a lot of the NGOs and entities that 637 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 16: push that have been enriching themselves in the process with 638 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 16: that money. And when you have thirty seven trillion dollars 639 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 16: in debt in a country and then you see this, 640 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 16: it really makes people's blood boil. 641 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 3: Understandably. 642 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: The NYPD has provided an update on these improvised bombs 643 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: that were hurled outside the New York City Mayor's residence, 644 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: confirming that their belief the two suspects. 645 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 3: Were inspired by ISIS. 646 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 2: And had planned for an attack deadlier than the Boston 647 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 2: Marathon bombing. 648 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 17: Cayumi said in recorded post arrest statements that he had 649 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 17: watched ISIS propaganda on his phone and that his actions 650 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 17: that day were partly inspired by ISIS. A lot made 651 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 17: spontaneous statements without being questioned by NYPD officers that were 652 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 17: captured on body worn camera footage. She said, this isn't 653 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 17: religion that just stands when people talk about the blessed 654 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 17: name of the prophet, we take action. We take action 655 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 17: as well as if I didn't do it somewhere else, 656 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 17: someone else will come and do it. 657 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 2: But Kosha New York Mayazar on Mom Donnie is still 658 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 2: trying to link this allegedly Islamist attack to white supremacy. 659 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 7: A protest was held outside Gracie Mansion where I live 660 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 7: with my wife Rama. Neither of us were home at 661 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 7: the time. This was a vile protest rooted in white supremacy, 662 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 7: entitled stop the Islamic Takeover of New York City Kosher. 663 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 2: The mental gymnastics involves here to blame white people off 664 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 2: of what police say was an ISIS attack is quite remarkable. 665 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 3: It really is. 666 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 16: He is twisting himself into a pretzel there, and that 667 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 16: won't age well because right now the FBI is widening 668 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 16: its probe into these two assailants. Where a second generation 669 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 16: Americans born and raised in America. Their parents immigrated from 670 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 16: Afghanistan and Turkey, and supposedly they had more ie D's 671 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 16: built or in the process of being built in their residences. 672 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 16: They grew up by the way in middle class to 673 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 16: upper middle class affluent neighborhoods in Pennsylvania and another jurisdiction, 674 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 16: and that's where now the FBI is going. So this 675 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 16: story is going to develop more and that comment of 676 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 16: trying to frame it as white supremacy is going to 677 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 16: make Mayor mum Donnie look pretty foolish. I think obviously 678 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 16: he doesn't want to admit the religious undertone there or 679 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 16: the connective tissue given you know, that's obviously his background 680 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 16: of what he ran on. If he were smart, which 681 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 16: I think he is. I don't think he's dumb. He's 682 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 16: actually very savvy politically, he probably would have been better 683 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 16: off going with an argument that, oh, look, this is 684 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 16: blowback from the Iran War, which is one of many 685 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 16: things that you know, people who are not happy with 686 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 16: the war because it remains very controversial site. He would 687 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 16: have been better going in that direction rather than trying 688 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 16: to brand it as white supremacy and looking like a fool, 689 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 16: which is what he does. 690 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very strange. I mean, it's confusing to me 691 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: how he even makes that link. But look, that's not 692 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 2: the only controversy. Mum Donnie is embroiled in at the moment. 693 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 2: Despite failing to make everything free during his election campaign, 694 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 2: his office is surprise, surprise, already tries to do the 695 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 2: precise reverse. The mayor is now considering getting rid of 696 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 2: all free parking in New York and making it paid. 697 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 2: Is the city grapples with a five point four billion 698 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 2: US dollar budget shortfall, Kosher, let me tell you as 699 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 2: a Sydney Sider who has to pay an exorbitant amount 700 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: to park in the city New York, because ain't gonna 701 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 2: like this one bit. Do you think he's going to 702 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: take a hit in his popularity over this. 703 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 16: Probably a little bit, because a big part of what 704 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 16: he did, you know, he promised rainbows and unicorns and 705 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 16: free grocery stores and free everything else, and a lot 706 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 16: of the younger gen Z people that voted for him, 707 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 16: that was a big part of their calculus. There are 708 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 16: many other reasons why people voted for him, but that 709 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 16: was a big part of it. So they won't love this, 710 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 16: and it is the kind of thing that will, you know, 711 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 16: hit many many people. The other one is taxes. He's 712 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 16: increasing property taxes, one of the few things where he 713 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 16: has the authority to do that. Everything else has to 714 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 16: go through the legislature. So wherever he has the authority, 715 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 16: which is actually quite limited as mayor, he is going 716 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 16: in the other direction of increasing taxes, increasing prices, and 717 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 16: it won't work well. However, he benefits from a structural advantage. 718 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 16: New York City today is not what it was in 719 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 16: the Juliana years or even the Bloomberg years. And now, 720 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 16: if you're the person who wins the Democrat nomination, you're 721 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 16: pretty much on a glide path to winning the mayoral election. 722 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 16: And he probably knows that. So he said what he 723 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,720 Speaker 16: had to say to sound good on the campaign trail, 724 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 16: and he's making a calculation that if he goes back 725 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 16: on his word on these things, it won't really make 726 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 16: a difference in practical terms when the next election rolls around. 727 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 2: Well, if pivolare learning thought socialists, not everything is free 728 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 2: and it can't be. Kosha Kata, thank you for your 729 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 2: time Still to come. A luxury brand refuses to sell 730 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 2: Kim Karashi in a seventy five thousand dollars handbag for 731 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 2: her twelve year old. We'll talk to Michael Loftus about 732 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 2: and more celebrity news next. 733 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 734 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 2: I'm Caroline Marcus filling and for reader, let's bring in 735 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 2: comedian and why to Michael Loft is now, Michael, great 736 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 2: to see you. Let's start with pop superstar Rihanna because 737 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 2: she's become the victim of a terrifying home shooting overnight, 738 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 2: a source telling People magazine she is freaking the f 739 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 2: out and doesn't understand why her family was targeted. Thirty 740 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 2: five year old Avanna Oritz has been arrested on suspicion 741 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 2: of attempted murder after allegedly birring multiple shots from a 742 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 2: rifle into the singer's Los Angeles mansion. 743 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 3: Michael, this is terrifying. 744 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,919 Speaker 2: Indeed, do we know why AT's allegedly targeted Rihanna yet? 745 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 12: I don't think we know yet, But I have ah 746 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 12: that she's a crazy woman. That's just me. I'm just 747 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 12: gonna go on ango and say it. And I'm just 748 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 12: glad that Rihanna and her kids hashtag and amper sand 749 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 12: and exclamation point are okay. I guess they all hid 750 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 12: behind her umbrella Ella Ella. 751 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 2: Michael, Seriously, I guess I asked for it when I 752 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 2: used to Rihanna as a topic with a comedian fears 753 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 2: for Britney Spears's mental health are growing after she was 754 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 2: caught driving under the influence of a combination of drugs 755 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 2: and alcohol. She's now reportedly keeping a low profile, but 756 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 2: it does come after a series of disturbing videos she 757 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 2: posted of herself dancing on Instagram, including one where she 758 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 2: is dancing with knives. It's now been revealed that Spears 759 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 2: has reportedly fired her sobriety coaches just before this arrest, 760 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 2: as well as several other people who have been looking 761 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,760 Speaker 2: after her, including a number of security guards. It's Michael, 762 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 2: remember that whole free Brittany movement? What about to get 763 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 2: Brittany into rehab movement? 764 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 12: Yeah? I think that's that would be a great movement 765 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 12: to start. She's like, she's like everybody's little sister. I 766 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 12: think everybody wants Brittany to be well and do good 767 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 12: and and hats off to Brittany's sobriety coaches. What a 768 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 12: gig that must be. Just go to Britney's house, don't 769 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 12: drink that, put that down. You should do that now, 770 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 12: she was she was tired of being treated like a 771 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 12: sex symbol, and so she she quickly found the solution 772 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,720 Speaker 12: for that, the crazy dance with knives. So so, ladies, 773 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 12: if you're ever being tired of being treated like a 774 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 12: sex symbol, just get those crazy eyes work and start 775 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 12: dancing with knives. We will leave you alone. 776 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think anyone thinks that's particularly sexy on 777 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 2: pul Brittany. Let's hope she does get some help. She 778 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 2: desperately needs it. I got think Christie's great grandson. Meanwhile, 779 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 2: James pritchadd he said he doesn't have a problem with 780 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 2: the BBC's woke casting after an independent review commissioned by 781 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 2: the British Public Broadcaster criticized tick box diversity casting. For example, 782 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 2: one of Agatha Christie's books was reimagined with a black 783 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 2: lead character and an entirely new storyline about racial oppression. 784 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 2: Michael Audiences have been criticizing the BBC's woke bias, not 785 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 2: only over these Agatha Christie adaptations, but also it's news coverage. 786 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, the BBC has real problems. I mean they have 787 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 12: gone over the edge. But like Agatha Christie's great grandson, 788 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 12: I'm sure he has no problems with whatever they want 789 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 12: to do as long as he gets a paycheck, because 790 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 12: that's what it's about. The almighty dollar, right, but it's 791 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 12: gonna make the shows kind of boring because it's always 792 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 12: it's the fun of Agatha Christie is trying to figure 793 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 12: out who done it? An all these ones, it's gonna 794 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 12: be the white butler, right, You're like, oh, was it 795 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 12: the black millionaire brain surgeon? Was it the Middle Eastern player? 796 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 11: Oh? 797 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 12: No, the white butler did it? Every time? 798 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 2: That's true, there's not going to be much of a 799 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 2: mystery left because they're certainly not going to point the 800 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 2: finger at the diversity characters. Meanwhile, Steve Carrell's new comedy 801 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 2: Rooster is out, but it's been criticized for not going 802 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 2: far enough in its war on woke and for being 803 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 2: a bit too bland. Obviously, with that kind of review, 804 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,479 Speaker 2: I can safely say you weren't a writer on the show, 805 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,959 Speaker 2: Michael No, I. 806 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 12: Wasn't a part of that. But in full disclosure, I 807 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 12: once did have a deal with Steve Correll's production company. 808 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 12: He's a wonderful guy. He's really warm, and this is 809 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 12: one of those shows where you make the pilot, you 810 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 12: have a good time doing it, and then you're you're 811 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,919 Speaker 12: kind of shocked when HBO is like, yeah, we want 812 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 12: to go to series with that, and you're like, oh, okay, 813 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 12: I guess we'll keep making more. It's not going to 814 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 12: be angry, it's going to be gentle, and who knows, 815 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 12: maybe Steve Carell's fans will enjoy it. I'm gonna I'm 816 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 12: going to watch at least one episode. 817 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Steve Carell. 818 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 2: I'll check it out and see if it's bland or 819 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 2: if it has a go at woke I'm thick of 820 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 2: too overly woke. 821 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 3: Maybe it's. 822 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 12: On those sleepless nights You're like, boy, I just need 823 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 12: something like it. Oh, Steve Carell. 824 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 3: Maybe the reviewer did say it's a good show. 825 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 2: To have on the background when you're doing things like 826 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 2: scrolling your phone. 827 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 3: So I guess that's the way people these days look. 828 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 2: Let's go to reports that luxury brand Immense has refused 829 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 2: to sell Kim Kardashian and Kanye West a rare Kelly bag. 830 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 2: They're said to be worth about seventy five thousand American dollars. 831 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 2: And let's remember this is that four their twelve year 832 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 2: old daughter Northwest. The bag was meant to be for her, 833 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 2: but the company's no. Michael, Kanye and Kim they were 834 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 2: reportedly quite taken aback that someone didn't want to take 835 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 2: their money. But what on earth what a girl that 836 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 2: young have to do with such an expensive bag? 837 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 12: Yeah? What is she going to put in a seventy 838 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 12: five thousand dollars What is she gonna owe? I need 839 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 12: to get these magic markers to school. No, and I 840 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 12: in a seventy five thousand dollars bag. That's crazy. That's 841 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 12: like the entire Iranian Navy. 842 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 16: You could. 843 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 12: And their air Force if you know, you don't sell 844 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 12: that bag to a kid so they can go trick 845 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 12: or treating and carry around their gummy bears. No, thank you? 846 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're right. It's an obscene amount of 847 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 2: money for a bag, no matter if it's for a 848 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 2: twelve year old or a seventy two year old. 849 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 3: But look, it's their money, so they can do with 850 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 3: it what they please. 851 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 2: Are talking about having too much money to know what 852 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,760 Speaker 2: to do with it. Millionaire Melbourne's riches man, billionaire Anthony 853 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 2: Pratt has done what the AFL seemingly couldn't, and he's 854 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 2: secured Kylie Minogue to perform at a private party of 855 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 2: his own later this month. Michael, there's been some speculation 856 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 2: Minogue could command upwards of three million dollars for this 857 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 2: performance in front of about three hundred guests. I mean, wow, 858 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 2: that it's a lot of money for a private party. 859 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 3: But it would be very hard to say no. 860 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 12: To it, really, it really would. And Kylie she's she's fantastic, 861 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 12: and hey, the guy made her an offer and she 862 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 12: said yes. So I would like to publicly make a 863 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 12: counter offer. I have thirty dollars American. So if Kylie, 864 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,919 Speaker 12: if you could just swing by my backyard, make sure 865 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 12: my wife's not home. Oh god, what a different No na, na, no, no, no, 866 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 12: no no. I will give you thirty five. I'm a 867 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,800 Speaker 12: man of wealth and taste. 868 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 2: You're throwing in the extra five dollars for the gold hotpants. 869 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 2: I know you are, my guess of Nicole Kinman's daughter, 870 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 2: Sunday Ros. She's spoken out about her famous mom following 871 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 2: her divorce from Keith Urban. 872 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 3: She's told Elle. 873 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 2: Australian magazine Kidman is the biggest inspiration in her life 874 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 2: and a key part of everything she does. 875 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 3: Michael, her daughter, is now enjoying a taste. 876 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 2: Of celebrity life herself. Like many children of celebrities these days, 877 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 2: She's got more magazine covers and walking in shows for 878 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 2: some big fashion names. 879 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 12: Yeah. I mean, good for her, but it's kind of 880 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 12: it's always creepy. You've got a very public divorce. Now 881 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 12: she's siding with her mom, and it's like she's only 882 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 12: picking her mom's side because it was her mom's publicist 883 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,280 Speaker 12: who got her the gig and got her the interview. 884 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 12: So I tell you, if if Dad can get her 885 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 12: into the grand old Opry, she'll be like, oh, my Dad, 886 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 12: he was really he was my rock. He was the one. 887 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 12: So they'll just go back and forth. It's a push 888 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 12: me pull you. It's it's kind of a blatant fame chase. Though. 889 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 12: For for Sunday Rose, hopefully her brother Monday Chrysanthemum, and 890 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,919 Speaker 12: her other sister Wednesday Daisy, which is not when that's 891 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 12: hard to say Wednesday Daisy, hopefully the whole family can 892 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 12: get together and enjoy some nepotism. 893 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just they're so reliable. 894 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 2: Michael loftis just like us. Yeah, Michael loftis, thank you 895 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 2: for your time. 896 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 3: It's always a pleasure to speak to you. 897 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 12: Have a good one. 898 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,359 Speaker 3: That's it for me. I'm next is News Nights