1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Approach production. 2 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:18,321 Speaker 2: That's my head. 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,081 Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, I know where I 4 00:00:20,121 --> 00:00:22,361 Speaker 3: can push myself and beyond, and I mean these young 5 00:00:22,401 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 3: people that start to understand that it is very powerful. 6 00:00:26,361 --> 00:00:29,401 Speaker 4: So we literally created this structure of getting these kids 7 00:00:29,401 --> 00:00:31,801 Speaker 4: to understand that they were capable of good things, they 8 00:00:31,841 --> 00:00:35,001 Speaker 4: were capable of big things. We put them through intensive, 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,321 Speaker 4: intensive gym sessions that you know, the kids are vomiting 10 00:00:38,361 --> 00:00:40,401 Speaker 4: and spewing up, and we push them. We push them 11 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:43,841 Speaker 4: physically and mentally, and then we create a structure around them. 12 00:00:43,881 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 4: So I'm sitting in a building now that's what we 13 00:00:45,921 --> 00:00:49,281 Speaker 4: call safe house. There's six emergency beds here. You know, 14 00:00:49,441 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 4: we provide will provide kids niting, So we provide them 15 00:00:52,161 --> 00:00:56,161 Speaker 4: benevolent relief, food, transport, will pay for all their clothes, 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,121 Speaker 4: will pay for schooling, and we go next level. If 17 00:00:59,121 --> 00:01:02,201 Speaker 4: a kid says that he wants to play, professional support will. 18 00:01:01,961 --> 00:01:02,681 Speaker 1: Make it happen. 19 00:01:02,721 --> 00:01:05,881 Speaker 4: We create connections even up there Inland. You know, we've 20 00:01:05,881 --> 00:01:08,481 Speaker 4: got kids that are engaged. We've taken boys that want 21 00:01:08,481 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: to be boxers up to Glen Azar and they've trained 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 4: with Taylor Robinson. 23 00:01:12,161 --> 00:01:16,521 Speaker 1: And gone into She's a Legends. Yeah, we've gone into. 24 00:01:17,801 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 4: You know, Jeff Horn's house to you know where he trains, 25 00:01:20,521 --> 00:01:23,041 Speaker 4: and we will just hook up as many things as 26 00:01:23,081 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: we can. We've flown boys up to Queensland six times 27 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,481 Speaker 4: now for different experiences. 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,041 Speaker 1: We will go and above and beyond. 29 00:01:31,081 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 4: It will buy kids a fine, we'll get them a 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,761 Speaker 4: proper phone, and we'll get them proper cloud. We're not 31 00:01:35,801 --> 00:01:38,121 Speaker 4: going to kmart and buying a gear because you know 32 00:01:38,121 --> 00:01:40,481 Speaker 4: they need emergency care. We'll fit them out and we'll 33 00:01:40,961 --> 00:01:43,161 Speaker 4: we'll do anything. But there's a there's a sense of 34 00:01:43,241 --> 00:01:45,561 Speaker 4: loyalty attached. If we're going to do all this for 35 00:01:45,681 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 4: you and we're going to take control of your life 36 00:01:47,161 --> 00:01:49,681 Speaker 4: and help you out, you're going to give back. It's 37 00:01:49,721 --> 00:01:54,561 Speaker 4: not free. You will pay us back through reform and 38 00:01:54,641 --> 00:01:57,921 Speaker 4: creating a story of redemption and listen to this brand. 39 00:01:58,241 --> 00:02:01,201 Speaker 4: We've got eighty kids that have engaged our program. Some 40 00:02:01,241 --> 00:02:03,361 Speaker 4: of those are from the mainland. They're high risk boys, 41 00:02:03,401 --> 00:02:05,801 Speaker 4: mostly from that come from the mainland. We've got kids 42 00:02:05,921 --> 00:02:07,441 Speaker 4: that are low end of the scale. 43 00:02:07,521 --> 00:02:10,081 Speaker 3: So haven't had so sorry, well with your main land, 44 00:02:10,401 --> 00:02:12,161 Speaker 3: can we just be a little bit more We talking 45 00:02:12,241 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: Victoria Mainland or is it when you say Maine. 46 00:02:14,321 --> 00:02:16,281 Speaker 4: We've had a couple of boys, a couple of boys 47 00:02:16,321 --> 00:02:19,161 Speaker 4: from New South Wales, one from Queensland, and a few 48 00:02:19,321 --> 00:02:21,881 Speaker 4: from Victoria that come down to engage with us. 49 00:02:22,321 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: So you will, you will if it fits the criteria, 50 00:02:25,601 --> 00:02:26,761 Speaker 3: take on somebody from me. 51 00:02:26,841 --> 00:02:28,601 Speaker 1: It's got to be the right fit. Yeah, it's got 52 00:02:28,601 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: to be the right fit. 53 00:02:29,361 --> 00:02:34,441 Speaker 4: I think that our mainland participants that come down. Firstly, 54 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,321 Speaker 4: I won't let them leave unless they've spent fifteen weeks here. 55 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,041 Speaker 4: Now we'll accommodate and feed them, do everything, but I 56 00:02:41,121 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 4: need at least fifteen weeks before I trust a kid 57 00:02:43,881 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: to go, so you're you know, outside of that, you know, 58 00:02:50,121 --> 00:02:52,161 Speaker 4: once the kid's been here, and because you've got to 59 00:02:52,161 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: have that process, then to go. 60 00:02:53,401 --> 00:02:55,881 Speaker 1: Through the camps to earn your spot, to meet the 61 00:02:55,921 --> 00:02:57,801 Speaker 1: other boys, engage what the program is. 62 00:02:58,201 --> 00:03:00,361 Speaker 4: So then once you come through that process, TAZZI is 63 00:03:00,401 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 4: a lot easier because they live in community. 64 00:03:02,721 --> 00:03:05,441 Speaker 1: They only come and stay here in this safe house. 65 00:03:05,761 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: If they've been kicked out of home or they know 66 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: they've done something stupid in the community or school, we'll 67 00:03:10,881 --> 00:03:12,881 Speaker 4: drag them off the street, bring them back here, reset 68 00:03:12,921 --> 00:03:16,961 Speaker 4: them and then put them back out. So the process 69 00:03:17,001 --> 00:03:19,841 Speaker 4: that we create is that we've got eighty boys now, 70 00:03:19,921 --> 00:03:22,721 Speaker 4: so out of our eighty this year, and you got 71 00:03:22,721 --> 00:03:25,041 Speaker 4: to understand, some are low level, some a high level. 72 00:03:25,081 --> 00:03:26,681 Speaker 1: So we work with the state's worst defender. 73 00:03:26,721 --> 00:03:28,761 Speaker 4: But we can't work with all the worst defenders because 74 00:03:28,761 --> 00:03:29,761 Speaker 4: we just don't agree if. 75 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,641 Speaker 2: You combine them, do you put them all within the 76 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:32,681 Speaker 2: one group? Yeah? 77 00:03:32,721 --> 00:03:33,161 Speaker 4: At times? 78 00:03:33,321 --> 00:03:35,481 Speaker 2: How does that balance up? Sometimes? Mate, when you've. 79 00:03:35,281 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: Gone four years, we've never had a fight. We've never 80 00:03:38,761 --> 00:03:43,281 Speaker 4: had a physical engagement. We do an activity called first Down, 81 00:03:43,681 --> 00:03:46,561 Speaker 4: So if there's an issue, we'll create a circle. The 82 00:03:46,601 --> 00:03:48,401 Speaker 4: two boys with an issue will get in and they're 83 00:03:48,401 --> 00:03:50,481 Speaker 4: allowed to wrestle until one of them hits the ground. 84 00:03:51,521 --> 00:03:53,561 Speaker 1: And we do this activity. We've got we've had. 85 00:03:53,481 --> 00:03:55,721 Speaker 4: Police involved in it, we've had but it's a safe, 86 00:03:55,761 --> 00:03:56,761 Speaker 4: coordinated activity. 87 00:03:56,761 --> 00:03:59,161 Speaker 1: We've got insurance that covers everything is there in place. 88 00:03:59,641 --> 00:04:03,161 Speaker 4: But we've never had two boys added on the program 89 00:04:03,241 --> 00:04:05,721 Speaker 4: because there's a level of respect that to be shine. 90 00:04:05,761 --> 00:04:08,201 Speaker 4: We don't have kids that they're not They walk through 91 00:04:08,281 --> 00:04:11,361 Speaker 4: these doors, they won't swear, they won't step out of line. 92 00:04:11,841 --> 00:04:15,961 Speaker 4: Everyone will contribute. We drive a very very high expectation, 93 00:04:16,081 --> 00:04:19,641 Speaker 4: like we live what we call an elite life. So 94 00:04:19,681 --> 00:04:22,241 Speaker 4: it's like I'm going to I'll change your life, but 95 00:04:22,281 --> 00:04:24,561 Speaker 4: you're on board with every aspect of it, and I'll 96 00:04:24,561 --> 00:04:26,601 Speaker 4: do anything. So if you say you want to be 97 00:04:26,641 --> 00:04:30,801 Speaker 4: a bod professional boxer, I'm not just going to go, oh, well, 98 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 4: let's get you involved in it in a gym. I'll 99 00:04:33,241 --> 00:04:35,561 Speaker 4: take you an in judicial to you know, I'll create 100 00:04:35,601 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 4: connections and take you an intush. 101 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,001 Speaker 3: You'll have the pachways to give that direction to go 102 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 3: and follow if that young person is willing and showing 103 00:04:43,921 --> 00:04:46,241 Speaker 3: potential and commitment to Yeah. 104 00:04:46,481 --> 00:04:48,921 Speaker 4: Out of those eighty boys, thirteen of them are student 105 00:04:49,001 --> 00:04:52,681 Speaker 4: leaders in schools across TAZZI today too, are school captains. 106 00:04:53,241 --> 00:04:56,001 Speaker 4: The school captain of one of the biggest Catholic colleges 107 00:04:56,041 --> 00:04:57,961 Speaker 4: in the state has been in our program now for 108 00:04:58,001 --> 00:05:01,161 Speaker 4: three years. Seven of our boys represent the state in 109 00:05:01,201 --> 00:05:05,321 Speaker 4: different sports. One's recently been looked at by the Lympic 110 00:05:05,361 --> 00:05:06,401 Speaker 4: community in relation. 111 00:05:06,201 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: To you know, he selected sport as well. 112 00:05:08,121 --> 00:05:11,681 Speaker 4: So we and it's so important for me to mention 113 00:05:12,201 --> 00:05:15,241 Speaker 4: that we do have two boys still in detention, and 114 00:05:15,281 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 4: we still have kids that are still on their journey 115 00:05:17,801 --> 00:05:18,961 Speaker 4: and offending on the street. 116 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,361 Speaker 3: So what's the age group will what's what's the oldest 117 00:05:22,361 --> 00:05:23,521 Speaker 3: to the youngest that you work with. 118 00:05:23,561 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: We won't work with anyone younger than eleven. However, we 119 00:05:26,841 --> 00:05:28,801 Speaker 4: have taken on board and done some engagement with a 120 00:05:28,841 --> 00:05:31,481 Speaker 4: nine year old before, but he was next next level. 121 00:05:32,281 --> 00:05:36,161 Speaker 4: But eleven really is too young sort of, twelve thirteen 122 00:05:36,241 --> 00:05:38,321 Speaker 4: is a good age for them to come in. We 123 00:05:38,401 --> 00:05:41,841 Speaker 4: won't accept anyone coming in that's younger than seventeen, and 124 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,601 Speaker 4: the reason is that and a. 125 00:05:44,601 --> 00:05:46,521 Speaker 2: Lot of people older than seventeen, So. 126 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,721 Speaker 4: Seventeen is that is the oldest will accept into the program. 127 00:05:50,041 --> 00:05:52,161 Speaker 4: We've got kids now that are nineteen twenty, but they've 128 00:05:52,161 --> 00:05:53,801 Speaker 4: been in the program for a few years. 129 00:05:54,041 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: Mentor style. Young people now are helping the next level. 130 00:05:58,681 --> 00:06:01,321 Speaker 1: We have more volunteers that have been through the program 131 00:06:01,361 --> 00:06:02,361 Speaker 1: than we have outside of it. 132 00:06:02,481 --> 00:06:04,081 Speaker 2: Awesome, So they come. 133 00:06:03,961 --> 00:06:06,841 Speaker 1: Through the program that grade way, they come back and volunteer, and. 134 00:06:06,721 --> 00:06:08,481 Speaker 2: What a sense of worth that must give them. 135 00:06:08,521 --> 00:06:11,601 Speaker 3: But I'm now able to have walked that path, and 136 00:06:11,641 --> 00:06:13,761 Speaker 3: this is what I'm talking about, the lived experience factor. 137 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,121 Speaker 3: You know, you've got young men who have come through 138 00:06:17,161 --> 00:06:20,361 Speaker 3: your your structured program that are successes that are now 139 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,841 Speaker 3: actually able to give back to these next engaging into 140 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,401 Speaker 3: the program. 141 00:06:25,561 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: That's phenomenal, and. 142 00:06:27,521 --> 00:06:30,361 Speaker 1: That's the whole goal. We have this real assessment. 143 00:06:30,481 --> 00:06:33,561 Speaker 4: Our goal is to successfully transition the kid into adulthood. 144 00:06:33,641 --> 00:06:34,841 Speaker 1: We don't give up on anyone. 145 00:06:35,121 --> 00:06:39,281 Speaker 4: And the process is that they go through this wheel assessment. 146 00:06:39,281 --> 00:06:41,641 Speaker 4: There's eight things that we assess them on and then 147 00:06:41,681 --> 00:06:44,041 Speaker 4: once they've ticked all aid off, then what we do 148 00:06:44,161 --> 00:06:46,721 Speaker 4: is we start looking at ways that they can give 149 00:06:46,761 --> 00:06:48,921 Speaker 4: back to all the other boys. So there are three 150 00:06:49,041 --> 00:06:51,841 Speaker 4: particular stages of the program. They take eight boxes and 151 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,521 Speaker 4: then they can come and give back, volunteer on programs, 152 00:06:54,681 --> 00:06:57,521 Speaker 4: they can instruct activities. Right, we're going to take these 153 00:06:57,561 --> 00:06:59,801 Speaker 4: boys up a mountain and we're going to do it 154 00:06:59,801 --> 00:07:01,881 Speaker 4: in pitch black dark. But you're going to lead. I'm 155 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,761 Speaker 4: not going to say shit the whole time. So you're 156 00:07:04,161 --> 00:07:07,681 Speaker 4: going to lead, do all the safety stuff, give the instructions. 157 00:07:08,721 --> 00:07:11,481 Speaker 4: From the outlook, it might look a little militarized of 158 00:07:11,561 --> 00:07:13,321 Speaker 4: what we do, but it's not at all. It's all 159 00:07:13,361 --> 00:07:16,681 Speaker 4: about providing love, nurture, validation. They are the three core 160 00:07:16,721 --> 00:07:19,641 Speaker 4: aspects of what we do. The one thing that sets 161 00:07:19,721 --> 00:07:21,801 Speaker 4: us apart and I have someone I did a speech 162 00:07:21,801 --> 00:07:24,481 Speaker 4: today someone asked this question, what's the secret to the 163 00:07:24,521 --> 00:07:29,241 Speaker 4: program For me? The secret is we offer twenty four hour, 164 00:07:29,401 --> 00:07:33,961 Speaker 4: seven day week response, so we have response vehicles. And 165 00:07:34,441 --> 00:07:36,481 Speaker 4: what happens is if a kid calls up, and we 166 00:07:36,521 --> 00:07:38,801 Speaker 4: only offer it to kids in our program, we just can't. 167 00:07:38,601 --> 00:07:40,201 Speaker 1: Offer it community wide unfortunately. 168 00:07:40,281 --> 00:07:43,201 Speaker 4: But if a kid calls up and something's happened, you know, 169 00:07:43,241 --> 00:07:46,001 Speaker 4: there's been a domestic home, they've got in trouble at school, 170 00:07:46,041 --> 00:07:47,921 Speaker 4: they're about to go punch on with a mate, they 171 00:07:47,921 --> 00:07:49,601 Speaker 4: feel like they're going to go and jump on the 172 00:07:49,601 --> 00:07:50,961 Speaker 4: ice again, or something's going on. 173 00:07:51,201 --> 00:07:54,601 Speaker 1: They can call us and I'll if I'm on call, 174 00:07:54,681 --> 00:07:56,121 Speaker 1: I'll get in the car and go see them. 175 00:07:56,321 --> 00:07:57,801 Speaker 4: Or if one of the other boys are on call, 176 00:07:57,921 --> 00:08:00,081 Speaker 4: they'll jump in the car and we'll go and respond 177 00:08:00,121 --> 00:08:00,441 Speaker 4: to them. 178 00:08:00,601 --> 00:08:02,441 Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter what the hour is, we'll go 179 00:08:02,801 --> 00:08:03,601 Speaker 1: and figure it out. 180 00:08:04,161 --> 00:08:08,241 Speaker 4: We've created this, We created this program that doesn't happen 181 00:08:08,241 --> 00:08:09,241 Speaker 4: anywhere in the country. 182 00:08:09,401 --> 00:08:14,161 Speaker 3: Yeah, I absolutely, without pissing in your pocket, this is 183 00:08:14,201 --> 00:08:15,041 Speaker 3: this is phenomenal. 184 00:08:15,881 --> 00:08:17,921 Speaker 2: This, this is the boots on. 185 00:08:17,881 --> 00:08:19,961 Speaker 3: The ground sort of shit that has to happen ye 186 00:08:20,441 --> 00:08:23,201 Speaker 3: to make a difference, And this is wow. 187 00:08:23,881 --> 00:08:27,841 Speaker 4: So the reality is like we a'll finished this podcast now, 188 00:08:27,881 --> 00:08:29,761 Speaker 4: and I know I've got two messages on my phone 189 00:08:29,961 --> 00:08:30,841 Speaker 4: that are sitting there. 190 00:08:31,081 --> 00:08:32,681 Speaker 1: But there's a kid. 191 00:08:33,801 --> 00:08:36,121 Speaker 4: If you can touch bose with him, he's at Nicked house, 192 00:08:36,321 --> 00:08:37,881 Speaker 4: So like, you know, I can say that. 193 00:08:37,921 --> 00:08:39,801 Speaker 1: But there's a boy in the community right now. It's 194 00:08:39,801 --> 00:08:40,401 Speaker 1: from the mainland. 195 00:08:40,441 --> 00:08:43,001 Speaker 4: He's come to Tazy. We've just recently met him. When 196 00:08:43,001 --> 00:08:46,481 Speaker 4: we met him, he hadn't showered in more than eight weeks. 197 00:08:47,401 --> 00:08:49,921 Speaker 4: He hadn't had a proper feed in a couple of weeks, 198 00:08:49,961 --> 00:08:51,921 Speaker 4: and he done some ram raids here in Lonnie, had 199 00:08:51,921 --> 00:08:54,521 Speaker 4: been evolved in some violent crime. We found him out 200 00:08:54,521 --> 00:08:56,201 Speaker 4: on the street, brought him back here. We threw him 201 00:08:56,241 --> 00:08:59,161 Speaker 4: a shower. He couldn't even stand under the water. He 202 00:08:59,161 --> 00:09:02,241 Speaker 4: couldn't stand under the water because the water hurt his 203 00:09:02,321 --> 00:09:04,601 Speaker 4: feet too much because he hadn't taken socks off in 204 00:09:04,641 --> 00:09:08,681 Speaker 4: ten weeks now, his feet were molded together. 205 00:09:08,761 --> 00:09:10,041 Speaker 1: It was just it was discussing. 206 00:09:10,041 --> 00:09:11,961 Speaker 4: One of the guys actually said, this is one of 207 00:09:12,001 --> 00:09:14,041 Speaker 4: the most confronting things I've seen. But that kid's on 208 00:09:14,081 --> 00:09:16,641 Speaker 4: the ice, is on the gear is so we've been 209 00:09:16,961 --> 00:09:18,561 Speaker 4: pulling him off that We've been doing a lot of 210 00:09:18,601 --> 00:09:21,281 Speaker 4: intensive work, but he's just taking a step back. And 211 00:09:21,321 --> 00:09:24,001 Speaker 4: it's a Sunday afternoon, it's five point thirty eight pm. 212 00:09:24,401 --> 00:09:26,361 Speaker 4: And when I finished this, I'll jump. We've got a 213 00:09:26,361 --> 00:09:28,001 Speaker 4: guy out and a response to Eagle now trying to 214 00:09:28,001 --> 00:09:30,641 Speaker 4: find him, and I'm getting message after message after message. 215 00:09:30,641 --> 00:09:32,201 Speaker 4: Oh he's at this house and he's jumped through this 216 00:09:32,241 --> 00:09:34,641 Speaker 4: window and he's gone here, and we'll eventually find him 217 00:09:34,681 --> 00:09:36,201 Speaker 4: tonight and we'll bring him back here. 218 00:09:36,601 --> 00:09:39,201 Speaker 1: So that's the type of frontline response. 219 00:09:38,881 --> 00:09:41,841 Speaker 3: Without sort of going into too much because obviously obviously 220 00:09:41,881 --> 00:09:45,401 Speaker 3: there's certain things obviously disclosures and stuff like that. Of course, Yeah, 221 00:09:45,641 --> 00:09:49,441 Speaker 3: could this be you know, a relapsed episode where he's 222 00:09:49,521 --> 00:09:53,481 Speaker 3: now sort of hit the ice hypothetical like you sort 223 00:09:53,481 --> 00:09:56,761 Speaker 3: of we're saying where and he's now just on a 224 00:09:56,801 --> 00:09:58,121 Speaker 3: full engaged. 225 00:09:59,681 --> 00:10:01,001 Speaker 2: Bender, or is this. 226 00:10:00,921 --> 00:10:02,841 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a fourteen year old boy that's back 227 00:10:02,881 --> 00:10:05,801 Speaker 4: out in the community and trying to find Gear because. 228 00:10:06,401 --> 00:10:08,921 Speaker 2: So he might maybe hanging out at the moment on 229 00:10:08,961 --> 00:10:09,441 Speaker 2: the hunt. 230 00:10:09,641 --> 00:10:11,921 Speaker 4: He's on the hunt, yeah, and our goal is to 231 00:10:11,961 --> 00:10:15,081 Speaker 4: intercept him before it gets it. The good thing is 232 00:10:15,081 --> 00:10:16,721 Speaker 4: is that we've got a bit of a reputation in 233 00:10:16,721 --> 00:10:18,681 Speaker 4: the community that if if I put the call out 234 00:10:18,681 --> 00:10:20,481 Speaker 4: and say I'm looking for a kid, no one wants 235 00:10:20,521 --> 00:10:22,401 Speaker 4: to touch him. So it's sort of like, you know, 236 00:10:22,641 --> 00:10:25,561 Speaker 4: they're sort of sending messages going, hey, he's been around here, 237 00:10:25,641 --> 00:10:26,001 Speaker 4: or he's. 238 00:10:25,881 --> 00:10:26,721 Speaker 1: Knocked on this door. 239 00:10:26,801 --> 00:10:30,361 Speaker 4: And because people understand that, there's a lot of work 240 00:10:30,401 --> 00:10:33,081 Speaker 4: that goes into this, but I can, you know, and 241 00:10:33,241 --> 00:10:36,441 Speaker 4: I'm happy I'll share stories with you that people wouldn't believe, 242 00:10:36,521 --> 00:10:39,201 Speaker 4: like we we at times as a community, we create 243 00:10:39,281 --> 00:10:42,241 Speaker 4: youth offenders, and you know we've I can tell you 244 00:10:42,281 --> 00:10:45,481 Speaker 4: a story one of the first stories that really grinded me. 245 00:10:45,681 --> 00:10:48,441 Speaker 4: And really when you talk about that fence from policing 246 00:10:48,521 --> 00:10:51,561 Speaker 4: to community, I would at times, and this is the 247 00:10:51,761 --> 00:10:53,921 Speaker 4: police officers that might listen to this, would share this 248 00:10:54,041 --> 00:10:56,881 Speaker 4: mentality of like, you deal with a kid and just think, mate, 249 00:10:56,881 --> 00:10:58,361 Speaker 4: you need to be locked up, and you need to 250 00:10:58,401 --> 00:11:00,761 Speaker 4: get off our streets and you're just causing me, and 251 00:11:00,801 --> 00:11:02,841 Speaker 4: you do anything to go and hunt that kid down 252 00:11:02,841 --> 00:11:04,761 Speaker 4: and make sure that he wasn't causing any more harm. 253 00:11:04,641 --> 00:11:05,401 Speaker 1: To the commun unity. 254 00:11:06,161 --> 00:11:09,081 Speaker 4: But then the flip side to that is I remember 255 00:11:09,161 --> 00:11:12,001 Speaker 4: we got a call once and someone said, oh, have 256 00:11:12,001 --> 00:11:15,201 Speaker 4: you heard about the boy in the bush and I said, no, no, 257 00:11:15,241 --> 00:11:17,081 Speaker 4: I don't know what you're talking about. They said, we've 258 00:11:17,241 --> 00:11:20,041 Speaker 4: just heard that Child Protection have picked a kid up 259 00:11:20,041 --> 00:11:23,081 Speaker 4: from his detention. They've taken into purchased a tent and 260 00:11:23,081 --> 00:11:24,441 Speaker 4: placed him up in the bush. 261 00:11:24,841 --> 00:11:26,721 Speaker 1: I said, oh, surely that hasn't happened. 262 00:11:26,841 --> 00:11:29,241 Speaker 4: And a couple of days later, after searching for this kid, 263 00:11:29,281 --> 00:11:31,961 Speaker 4: we got notified by a contact that we had of 264 00:11:32,041 --> 00:11:33,641 Speaker 4: where he was, and we went up into the bush 265 00:11:33,681 --> 00:11:35,761 Speaker 4: and we found this kid. And that story is one 266 00:11:35,801 --> 00:11:38,361 Speaker 4: hundred percent true, that we had a young person in 267 00:11:38,441 --> 00:11:42,281 Speaker 4: government care that's taken out of distinction into homelessness and 268 00:11:42,321 --> 00:11:44,361 Speaker 4: purchased a tent middle of winter here in Tazi, a 269 00:11:44,361 --> 00:11:45,281 Speaker 4: non water proof tent.