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Speaker 2: More Carlton dejection, more footy media dissection. It's been the

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Speaker 2: natural heartbeat of the new cycle for over two decades now,

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Speaker 2: So what's different about the latest Blues downfall? Plus the

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Speaker 2: gap between the bottom nine and top nine opens up

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Speaker 2: just that little bit more. But is there a smoky

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Speaker 2: side about to surge up the power rankings while a

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Speaker 2: rebuilder sinks even deeper. We'll go through the eighteen team rankings,

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Speaker 2: hooking to all the big issues in paar or fast

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Speaker 2: the mailbag, deep dive into the wisdom of Kevin Sheedy

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Speaker 2: on the Fox Footy Podcast. Ben waterwif with you as is.

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Speaker 2: Past frequent Bus Route number nine hundred commuter Max Lorton, Hello.

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Speaker 3: MAXI, Yes, the loyal smart bus going past Waverley. What

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Speaker 3: a day for denizens of Mulgray. Historic day with the

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Speaker 3: AFL buying Waverley Park back from Hawthorne for a dollar

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Speaker 3: that's not weird at all, nothing confusing about that, nothing

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Speaker 3: dodgy going on at all. Don't worry.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was a dollar back in two two thousand,

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Speaker 2: two thousand. It was supposed to be. Wasn't it supposed

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Speaker 2: to be twenty million dollars?

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Speaker 3: They sold it to like the real estate developer for

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Speaker 3: one hundred and ten mil. I think I read yes,

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Speaker 3: and then interesting, how this maybe anyway? Exciting times? I

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Speaker 3: don't think it's going to build up to one hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty seven thousand people as they once intended, and

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Speaker 3: it was. I tweeted about it, and all I got was,

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Speaker 2: That's a common theme hearing about the old Waverley Park

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Speaker 2: attendees also joining us our hardworking one of our hardworking

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Speaker 2: emerging trade gurus, the four who dropped trade bombshells on

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Speaker 2: the podcast in recent times, quietly expecting another five and

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Speaker 2: the next forty minutes or so.

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Speaker 4: Hello Will, Hello, Ben, Hello Max. Pleasure to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Both now, MAXI. The run Home returns Sunday, the anticipation

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Speaker 2: there's a couple of others that have gone with a

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Speaker 3: Thank you for bringing that up, Ben, because you can't

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Speaker 3: do it before the buys are done. What do you

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's already hard enough with Gold goes nest

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Speaker 3: and having a game in hand.

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Speaker 2: Don't have more buys to come after this weekend.

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Speaker 4: No, this is last one. This is the last one.

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Speaker 3: And then and then of course Gold cost nested and

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Speaker 3: playing twice in round twenty four, the most normal thing

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Speaker 3: We've got eight weeks. Everyone gets excited again. As I said,

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Speaker 3: I think last week of the podcast, it's always a

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Speaker 3: little natural lull during the buys in the coldest part

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Speaker 3: finals on the horizon, and now we start guessing who's

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Speaker 3: gonna win games, and then some team does something really

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Speaker 2: No, but when you do your run home, you're not

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Speaker 3: Yes, So how it will work. On Sunday night, you'll

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Speaker 3: for example, Collingwood would have a ninety five percent chance

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Speaker 3: they get point nine to five for a win, whereas

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Speaker 3: And there are different games give different amounts. You add

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Speaker 2: Even though there's only nine teams in the finals run, because.

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Speaker 3: Any of them could make the eight, and I think

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Speaker 2: Can you see a scenario where a team gets thirteen,

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Speaker 3: That's always what happens. It's just a matter of who

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Speaker 2: So looking at the run home FOURK, who are the

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Speaker 4: I think if we go from the top to the bottom,

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Speaker 4: I think who takes that fourth spot in the top four.

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Speaker 4: If we do assume that Collinwood Brisbane and Geelong, collinwand

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Speaker 4: Gelng and Max as you said, I agree, both will

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Speaker 4: I think there's an argument for the Dogs. I can't

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Speaker 2: It means that they're back on a second in the Powering.

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Speaker 3: Cat and they will be second on the ladder regardless

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Speaker 3: The third most likely because they've got the ceiling. We

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Speaker 3: You'd rather have that and stumble against the bad teams

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Speaker 2: Team they do this.

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Speaker 4: This a danger game this weekend or is it a

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Speaker 3: The Sydney No, I'd say danger game. I think there's

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Speaker 3: On the ladders. The thing that's going to keep him

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Speaker 3: wins or the great percentage, they should be fine. But

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Speaker 2: All when you look at the Premiership window for it,

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Speaker 2: all signs point to the Crows being among that top

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Speaker 2: How confident do you think should Crows fans be that

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Speaker 3: I think, well, how confident are you as an Adelaide

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think they had the highest ceiling. I think

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Speaker 4: Hawthorne they've had that finals experience that Freemantle and Adelaide

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Speaker 4: I think for it to be a true success now

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Speaker 4: they've shown what their ceiling is I think either a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what what makes the Crows interesting? As well as

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Speaker 3: if they sneak into fourth and play Collingwood.

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking this would they be the team

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Speaker 2: most likely to upset colin.

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Speaker 3: They would rate themselves in that game.

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Speaker 4: Which is crazy right when you look at the record

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Speaker 4: that the Crows have had against Collinwood a recently and

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Speaker 4: be at the MCG. I think they've had one win

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Speaker 3: All by a kick.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I know they're all also close. But I've

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Speaker 4: actually had this conversation with fellow Crows member Kishan. Yes

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports, but he is a We were speaking about

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Speaker 4: this other week and it was pre the Collingwood game

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Speaker 4: and I wouldn't want to be playing the Crozy if

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Speaker 4: I was Collen would come that first weekend the finals.

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Speaker 4: wouldn't hate playing us and then Brisbane. They will be

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Speaker 3: Thing to keep in mind with the Crows, they've got

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Speaker 3: Geelong was very unfortunate. It's funny how Brisbane one week

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Speaker 4: Max at Esson and Gold Coast played each other for

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Speaker 2: Just on the big move in the power rankings, Maxie

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Speaker 3: They looked a completely different team with their good players back,

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Speaker 4: Though, Fork, we're not playing fair of us yet. If

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Speaker 4: They have now found themselves and that extra game in hand.

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Speaker 3: Playing for nothing but playing for fun.

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Speaker 4: I just yeah, I don't know. I absolutely think there

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Speaker 3: This is so stupid. They play away to Port, so

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so this season would be over before then. Sorry,

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Speaker 4: they should have had it, so they should have it

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Speaker 3: Ideally, So I think there's a very realistic scenario where

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Speaker 2: And Essenon is now third last on the power ranking scene,

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Speaker 3: Who's playing better footy right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, the North Melbourne in the past six weeks have

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Speaker 2: It should have been more than that. They should have

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Speaker 3: It's just blow some Kilda in Melbourne. It's above Essendon's.

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Speaker 2: They do they the two teams Essendon and North Wum

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Speaker 3: That sounds like something that I would be annoyed at

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's I just want to I just want to

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Speaker 3: Oh I think it might be the Bulldogs one.

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Speaker 3: North almost beat them before Esterton had all their injuries.

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Speaker 3: Eston like a lot of this is Essendon should be

437
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Speaker 3: better than North, but they had a horrible run this year,

438
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Speaker 3: so you can take that into account. But no, absolutely,

439
00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,520
Speaker 3: like North's got some winnable games. Playing Melbourne at the

440
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Speaker 3: g they could win that, yea, some Kilda at Marvel

441
00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,000
Speaker 3: they could dream of winning that. Rich men. Yeah, there's

442
00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,119
Speaker 3: a few wins possibly there that would be and they

443
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Speaker 3: have no reason to tank because they don't have their

444
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Speaker 3: first round pick.

445
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Speaker 2: That's right, Yes, that and we talked about that that

446
00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 2: trade last year, the where North Melbourne used the pick

447
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,679
Speaker 2: on matt Wick Locke. Yes too, but they at an

448
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,280
Speaker 2: expense that they traded out of the first round of

449
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,040
Speaker 2: this year's draft, but that pick at them. Yeah, with

450
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,359
Speaker 2: more wins could be later. And remember there's gonna be

451
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 2: a lot of bids before that pick anyway, so maybe

452
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Speaker 2: it is looking like a bit of a well you

453
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,960
Speaker 2: can see the method behind the madness.

454
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Speaker 3: I think if that ends up being picked nine or

455
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Speaker 3: ten on draft night, which is absolutely realistic, very much so,

456
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 3: like you'd take that if you're North.

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah, in considering this is a year where they got

458
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,920
Speaker 2: matt wit locker key defender and recruiters are just I've

459
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 2: got no idea, who the best key defender in the

460
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Speaker 2: in the in the league is at the moment.

461
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Speaker 3: He be the best key defender in this year's draft crop.

462
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, probably there you go, the most reliable. Yeah,

463
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Speaker 2: I would think that's probably fair. North Melbourne beat Carlton

464
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Speaker 2: on the weekend, Carlton being the lead of this segment.

465
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Speaker 1: And now on the Fox Footy podcast another strong edition

466
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Speaker 1: of Australia's favorite segment, Fair or Fast Max.

467
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Speaker 3: And every other segment on every other foot show this week, Carlton.

468
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Speaker 2: The lost to North Melbourne is the beginning of the

469
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Speaker 2: end for Michael Voss Fair or Fast.

470
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Speaker 3: I found it funny that Ralphie sort of dropped on

471
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Speaker 3: couch last night that sorry on Monday night that Voss

472
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 3: had sort of equipped to people that if they lost

473
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Speaker 3: to West Coast it could be the beginning of the end.

474
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Speaker 3: So good Honesty's probably right and I think it's probably fair.

475
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Speaker 3: The difference is the people inside Carlton right now are

476
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Speaker 3: not Carltony enough to back in Old Carlton absolutely would

477
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Speaker 3: and the power brokers or whoever you want to talk about,

478
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 3: Bruce Carton, Bruce Matheson, Yes, Pokey's giants and we're not

479
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 3: John Elliott anymore. But maybe Tom Will ever go at him,

480
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 3: would complain and say we need to get in mold

481
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Speaker 3: house or something. I don't know. Whatever they call for

482
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Speaker 3: right now, who are they? They'd be calling for LONGMI

483
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 3: wouldn't Oh, yes, that'd be the call, so absolutely realistic

484
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 3: that there will be people making the call. I think

485
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 3: what is happening right now is a couple of things.

486
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Speaker 3: One is that they're slightly underachieving. They're a mid table

487
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 3: team that is roughly mid table. They've lost some close games,

488
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,239
Speaker 3: They've had some injuries again, and that's okay. I think

489
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 3: the other thing is that Michael Voss just may not

490
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Speaker 3: be a fantastic coach. He wasn't great at Brisbane in

491
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Speaker 3: his first stint. He did what we seem to be

492
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 3: a fine job as Portolai's midfield coach for a while,

493
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 3: but I have no idea how to rate assistance, so

494
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 3: the industry seemed to rate him. I think he got

495
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Speaker 3: another chance primarily because he is Michael Voss. I think

496
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Speaker 3: if his name was Michael Smith and was not a

497
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 3: superstar player, he may not have gotten that chance. So

498
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 3: maybe that's part of the problem, is that his coaching

499
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 3: is just not up to the standard. Unfortunately the Blues need.

500
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been a lot of question marks about the

501
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 2: Blue style and how it's been a predictable slow ball

502
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 2: movement has come under scrutiny. I suppose the question now

503
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Speaker 2: is if it is the beginning of the end, does

504
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: that indicate that Carlton's Premiership window with this group of players,

505
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 2: has it officially closed? And is the closest that we're

506
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: ever going to get being five goals up a quarter

507
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Speaker 2: time of a twenty twenty three preliminary.

508
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Speaker 3: Final, which is pretty close.

509
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Speaker 2: It was pretty close, very close, which they're hard to win.

510
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Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think I could officially draw

511
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Speaker 4: a close on it. Cheerly for the fact of how

512
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Speaker 4: much talent they have on the list right now, Like

513
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 4: it is well documented that all their money also a

514
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 4: lot of their money has gone into the top end players.

515
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Speaker 4: You have Kerno, you have McKay, you have Walsh, you

516
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 4: have Crips. They have a million dollars on the table

517
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Speaker 4: for the coning right now. They have so many guys

518
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 4: Zack Williams is taking up their portion of their salary

519
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 4: cap at the moment, I just cannot in good faith

520
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 4: write them off in the premiership window. Everything would suggest so,

521
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Speaker 4: but I don't think we've had, certainly not at least

522
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Speaker 4: in my memory, such they didn't. They they sort of

523
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Speaker 4: dip their toe to the water and then have sort

524
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Speaker 4: of left since like they didn't ever since the halfway

525
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 4: mark of last year, they haven't really ever looked like, no,

526
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 4: the same team. So I feel like they've sort of

527
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 4: been around this mark for a long time now, and

528
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Speaker 4: just with being Carlton, such high expectations.

529
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Speaker 2: So while you're on the list kind of narrative there

530
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Speaker 2: fork the Blues now have no choice. They have to

531
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Speaker 2: accept the free agency compensation pick for Tom daconing fear

532
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Speaker 2: or us.

533
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Speaker 4: If they're not moving their offer for him in the

534
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Speaker 4: way that has been reported, which is around one million

535
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Speaker 4: dollars a year.

536
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Speaker 2: Compared to some kild As one point six or seven.

537
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Speaker 4: Yes, compared to some killed as one point seven. So

538
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 4: that ends up being I think, like a god, how

539
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Speaker 4: how many years, like a five million dollar difference? I

540
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 4: think all in terms of the length of the contract. Yeah,

541
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Speaker 4: like they have to accept it. But I don't think

542
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Speaker 4: anyone We've probably said this before, no one at Carlton

543
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 4: in their right mind would be upset with the coning

544
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Speaker 4: for walking for that big a difference.

545
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Speaker 3: I don't think, and it seems clear that he wants

546
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Speaker 3: to stay if they can just pay him a little

547
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: bit more and make it somewhat more realistic, because who

548
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Speaker 3: could possibly give up just five million dollars to play

549
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: footy for a different team in the same city.

550
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Speaker 4: Yeah, who were arguably at similar points in time at

551
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: the moment. Sure sank Ler haven't had that final success

552
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 4: the last few years, but the ladders are telling me

553
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 4: at the moment they're pretty similar. So yeah, I think

554
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 4: you would just have to accept it. Unfortunately, if you Carlton,

555
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 4: but that's one million dollars you can spend somewhere else.

556
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 4: And if you can convince the next coach that if

557
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 4: he thinks they've got the tools to still stay in

558
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 4: the premiership window, then there's no reason that million dollar

559
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 4: difference can't play a huge role.

560
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Speaker 3: They're not that old, right, We think of them because

561
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 3: we think we've they've had this same core for a while.

562
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Speaker 3: Eighth oldest list, eighth most experienced list coming into the

563
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: year like Crips thirty, he's got another few years. Zach

564
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 3: Williams thirty, Side thirty, Mitch McGovern thirty. I'm just looking

565
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 3: at their older players. They don't have a lot of peak,

566
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Speaker 3: peak players who are absolutely going to retire off imminently

567
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: like say Collingwood does. So you can dream that with

568
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Speaker 3: a couple of good drafts, and Jacko Smith might have

569
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Speaker 3: been one of those players who would have proven to

570
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Speaker 3: be a great picky.

571
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Speaker 2: He was number one on their draft board.

572
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, he was thought to be one of the solutions

573
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 3: to the midfield problems. We don't know how different this

574
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: season would be just with him, but there are a

575
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 3: few drafts away from contending. Again, that's how close you

576
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 3: can get.

577
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Speaker 2: The other curveball. While I think Carlton need to get

578
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: their first round pick, and it's not the ball on

579
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 2: the end or but it's part of a very multi

580
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: layered prospect. Here is that Carlton traded away their future

581
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 2: first this year. During last year's trade year, they did

582
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 2: it with Hawthorne and it eventually helped them trade up

583
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 2: to get Jagger Smith in that year's draft, again, a

584
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: move like North Melbourne last year, because they identified the

585
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: talent in the twenty twenty four draft being better than

586
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. What that has happened though, so

587
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: Carlton don't have their first round pick. Now. The wild

588
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: card is that you mentioned who might be the best

589
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: key defender in the draft this year. That could be

590
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: carlton father's son prospect, Harry Dean, who's the son of

591
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: Peter Dean, who won a couple of flags with Carlton

592
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: eighty seven to ninety five. Harry Dean is I think

593
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Speaker 2: Carlton not necessarily underestimated him, but I think he's gone

594
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: above their expectations. So he might have twelve months ago

595
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: might have been getting a bid where the Camparelli's got

596
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: a bid last year, early thoirties, something like that. One

597
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: recruiter said to me last week that he's a top

598
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: fifteen pick, Harry Dean. And at the moment, Carlton's first

599
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: pick doesn't come in until pick thirty five because that's

600
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 2: Brisbane's second pick, and of course Brisbane's second pick is

601
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: quite getting quite late. And the other curveborn on top

602
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: of that is that they've got a father's son prospect

603
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six called Cody Walker, who I reckon

604
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 2: if you're doing a draft board right now, is sitting

605
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: in the top three of next year's draft pool, so

606
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: the Blues could go the Blues could match on Harry

607
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 2: Dean this year whenever that when that comes, and going

608
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: to draft deficit next year. But Cody Walker in twenty

609
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: twenty six is higher on draft boards, I reckon than

610
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 2: what Harry Dean is in twenty twenty five. But because

611
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: of the dearth of key de finners in this year's draft,

612
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: Harry Dean's valley was so much higher. So it's a

613
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: big thing for the Blues to balance.

614
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 3: The domino there being if they get the pick for

615
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: de Conning, they have the assets to match, flexibility, whatever

616
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: they need to do for deed and then they're not

617
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: going to ruin their chances of matching the walk Andrew

618
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: Walker's son, that's right, yes, yes, and it looks exactly

619
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 3: like you when he plays.

620
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: He does. Yes, he's a freak. He's really really impressive. Max.

621
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: The medical retirement of Jeremy McGovern is a further warning

622
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: shot to AFL club's fair or fast AFL clubs well,

623
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: just in terms of like got to be super careful

624
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: with how your hand or stuff. You're not saying that

625
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 2: the Eagles do anything wrong, but it's just that the

626
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: delicate situation the clubs are now deal well.

627
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 3: I think it's fair because he's one of the great

628
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: defenders of this era being forced into early retirement and

629
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: that's sad for all involved. The club is more protected

630
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: because of the changes they've made to how deals get

631
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: paid out right, So I think there's a big portion

632
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: of his deal that will be excluded from the cap

633
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: for next year, and then it gets reduced over about

634
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 3: two or three years. I think three years might be

635
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: the maximum. So they will get some salary cap relief

636
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 3: from this. Not that the salary cap is really a

637
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: huge problem for them right now because they're not any good,

638
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 3: but it does at least help them maneuver things around.

639
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: They could maybe front loads and contracts for next year

640
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 3: and make sure they have lots of cap room in

641
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 3: let's say twenty twenty eight, twenty twenty nine, when they

642
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: want to be good again. So it's not going to

643
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 3: hurt them as much as it would have two or

644
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: three years ago when the cap rules were a bit different.

645
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 3: But yeah, everyone knows you have to be careful with

646
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 3: players who suffered repeated concussions, and clubs are getting better.

647
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, at least I'm more aware of these issues,

648
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: but sometimes you just can't avoid things. In a contact

649
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 3: support spoke to Brandon Stasovich after the Brisbane win over

650
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: Geelong and he was a guy who's had three concussions

651
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 3: in eight months and said, basically at the start of

652
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: this period, he got that really nicety knock from Justin

653
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: mcinnernie back in round one, and I think there was

654
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: he admitted that in a pretty dark spot in those

655
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: first couple of weeks where he was contemplating life without football,

656
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: but he's one of the guys that were It did

657
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: turn for him, it got better. It was a slow

658
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: process to come back. He's a lot younger, but mightight

659
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: have been Jerremy McGovern but everyone's different. All depends on

660
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: history and we get knocked sometimes. But it just goes

661
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: to show how delicate this situation is. He comes back

662
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: in kicks a goal in his first game back against

663
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: the Giants, then does a job on Patrick dangerfield on

664
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: Friday night, showing that it's just such a delicate position

665
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: for all clubs and players. When you talk to him,

666
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: was he in a bad place because of just the

667
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: knowledge of having three and eight months or was he

668
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: physically in.

669
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: A bad Probably a combination of But to be fair

670
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: to him, he's one of the most level headed players

671
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: you'll ever speak to after a game and didn't is

672
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: it was in no mood to overdramatize things. But I

673
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: think the reality setting that when you have three In

674
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: my read on it was when you have three and

675
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: eight months, the reality is that you're more like, yeah,

676
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: the odds necessarily aren't great.

677
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: It's just it's sad in a way. But this is

678
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 3: the point that players will get to in a lot

679
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: of cases where they need to work out this is

680
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 3: my life, this is my earning potential period right now.

681
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: Brandes Stars is just going to make more money over

682
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: the next five years and he'll make over the rest

683
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: of his life. Maybe maybe he'll have some good investments.

684
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: I don't know, but he needs he has to be

685
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: conscious of that. So it's almost taking the risk of well,

686
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: I know this has happened, but I got to make

687
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 3: my money while I am So it sucks, but that's

688
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 3: just life.

689
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: Fork. After the high scrutiny over the past few days,

690
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: we won't see Marcus winn Hager like tagging tactics this weekend.

691
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: Fair or fast.

692
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 4: Remind me who's saying you to have again? Max Fremantle again?

693
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: In person, there's the double up that.

694
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: Who do they go for? Who does he go to

695
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: Sarong or bray Shaw and how does he play them?

696
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 4: If it makes for any better of a game than

697
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 4: what we had in round seven or eight, then Marcus

698
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 4: can do whatever he wants and ross by extension as well.

699
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Speaker 3: Yeah, tagging famously good for footage enjoyment.

700
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 4: Yes, I think he will probably so wrong. Had a

701
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 4: very very very good game against Es in the last

702
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 4: Thursday night. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes to him.

703
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 4: Brayshaw is just performing consistently week in week out, I

704
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 4: would love to say, and I know some people doubt this.

705
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 4: I would really want to see Marcus winn Hager play

706
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 4: a few games, so a few weeks where he's not

707
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 4: tagging in the midfield. I personally think he is an

708
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 4: accumulator who can have genuine impact on the game. Hasn't

709
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: been proven. Hasn't really been proven because he hasn't really

710
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 4: had an opportunity. It's such a fine line for coaches

711
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 4: as well, because he's such so good at what he

712
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 4: does and He's had the wood over Nick Dekos before

713
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: before heading into Last Saturday Night, where if there's any

714
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 4: shirk of doubt over should we tag a player or

715
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: should we not? And Ross has someone like Marcus at

716
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 4: his disposal the easy options to tag him, So there's

717
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 4: a bit of predicament for both Ross and I think Marcus.

718
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: I think clubs are really starting to heat up on

719
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 4: the idea that he's still being used in the same

720
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: role and they know he's off contract. Still isn't he

721
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 4: he's off contract. The one is Collingwood. I think that

722
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 4: could use him, particularly with Tom which we're going out

723
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: of contract at the end of the year. Whether or

724
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 4: not his days is a different question. But with yeah,

725
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 4: a few guys retiring in the next couple of years

726
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: at Collingwood, I think people like Collingwood. Clubs like Collingwood

727
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: are circling and there's genuine interest for him, So I

728
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 4: think it's probably both in Ross's best interest from maintaining

729
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 4: this guy on nell Is for the next few years

730
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 4: with a few other young guns who have signed long term,

731
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: like Matuda Owens or Jack Higgins to play him. You know, hey, mate,

732
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 4: you've got a license in the next few weeks, like

733
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 4: go head to head with Sarrong oppost to wearing him

734
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 4: like a glove for the entire one hundred and twenty minutes.

735
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: So not like some Kilda needs to win games right now.

736
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: That really doesn't matter for.

737
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 4: Them, not at the moment. I think it's a better

738
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: long term investment to let winn Hager do his team

739
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: the next few weeks. Having said that, all of that aside,

740
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 4: I would deploy it a tag on Caleb's wrong, but

741
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 4: I don't think this week's probably the week to do it.

742
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 4: If you're thinking long term.

743
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: Do you think Collingwood would purely sign him just so

744
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: that Nick Daycors can practice being tagged at training?

745
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 4: There's a great question. It'd make for a couple of

746
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 4: great internal scratch matches as well.

747
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: Exactly, the team has a very powerful.

748
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 4: Force now, so yeah, it's a great thought. It would

749
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 4: be quite ironic but also good. It'd be good to

750
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 4: see them play alongside of eachailor do you.

751
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: Think that he went too far with the way he

752
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: was tagging Nick Dakos and.

753
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: A couple of a couple of moments. Most of the

754
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: most of the stuff, all the acts that he did

755
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: were within the rules, but like, yeah, the kneeing and

756
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: then the little slap to the face. Yeah, but you

757
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: speak to probably a lot of star midfielders who used

758
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: who've caught that kind of attention in the past, Like

759
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: remember when Ryan Crowley pinched Brent Harvey and huberan amount

760
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: of times.

761
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: Yes, I thought we would do for that sort of game.

762
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: It's always a fun narrative. It seemed like it was

763
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: handled pretty well on the night, like when he gave

764
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: away a free and got a fine for something he

765
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: did at the opening bounce. There was definitely a moment

766
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: shown on one of the Fox Foody shows this week

767
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: where the umpire was clearly watching him away from the

768
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 3: stoppage as the stoppage was being held, and then he

769
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: held Dacos and then a free kick was paid. So

770
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: the umpires, as long as they're aware of it and

771
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: are calling it in the right way, I think it's fair.

772
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: It was weird that he got fined for that push

773
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: on Dacos on the softer side of fine.

774
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: Apparently they're challenging a written submission.

775
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: Yes, there's three written submissions head into the tribunal tonight.

776
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: Data is gonna be very busy on leave.

777
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 3: Isn't it just sitting there waiting for Twitter?

778
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 2: Yes, Max, the media needs to ease up on Jamara

779
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 2: hugil Hagen fair or fast?

780
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: I think broadly fair. But what is the specific situation

781
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: that's driving that at the moment.

782
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: Well, he talked about how there's been some reporting around particularly,

783
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: been a lot of reporting around Jamara about Jamara had

784
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: told friends this okay, and I think that had. He

785
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 2: opened up on Mi Robinson's podcast on Sunday and spoke

786
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: about how disappointed he was with that kind of reporting

787
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: at the moment.

788
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: I think it's there's a world where reporting can exist

789
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: and be in the not public interest because football doesn't matter,

790
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: but in.

791
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: The interest of the public.

792
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, there's a difference between those two things and

793
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: still be something that upsets the people involved. Like journalism

794
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 3: at its call should be things that someone doesn't want printed.

795
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: If it gets too parallemal rule, if it gets too

796
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: if it does get to someone's mental health and becomes

797
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: an in situation, you can take a step back. And

798
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: I think generally the media does take a step back

799
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways. It just when something gets

800
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 3: reported a lot by everyone, even if it's the same

801
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 3: story in every outlet, because that's just how the aggregation

802
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: process works. These days, it feels like a lot of

803
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: attention on one story when it's the same story again

804
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: and again and again. So I can understand why he

805
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: would feel that way, but I don't think specifically the

806
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: media has stepped over the line too much with him

807
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: over the last nine months. It seems like they've been

808
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: reasonably good about it.

809
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 2: Yeap.

810
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: I know it's media defending media, but yes, my thoughts.

811
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 2: Fork last one news of Matt Row's resigning midway through

812
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: a game he was playing in was just plain weird

813
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: fair or.

814
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 4: Fast plain weird, there's fair, Ben Max and I sort

815
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 4: of both. Max said the message to my team's chat,

816
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 4: and I had seen in a tweet from Mitch Cleary

817
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 4: on my Apple Watch at the exact same time of

818
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 4: like it's three quarters time, and it was like it was.

819
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 4: It was very bizarre. I think Michael Gleason from The

820
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 4: Age ran with it fifteen minutes beforehand.

821
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 2: Did he come off at early in the third quarter

822
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: and it's on the contracts, I don't know.

823
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: His tweet was specifically no, he hasn't signed midgame, which

824
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: is a good thing to clarify. Because I really thought

825
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: he might have.

826
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 4: I can't comment on it too much because I didn't

827
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 4: see it. Did Damon Harwick mention something about it in

828
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 4: a press year He.

829
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 3: Was asked about it on three point sixty and said

830
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: that I know nothing's happened yet. We don't know anything.

831
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know about that stuff.

832
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 4: I mean, the reporting feels like it's imminent or it's

833
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 4: almost happened because someone has said he had.

834
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: I think what's pretty clear from the reporting is the

835
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 3: timeline is over the weekend or on Friday. He told

836
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: Collingwood and the Bulldogs, speaking to their coaches specifically, that

837
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: he won't be signing with them. He hasn't signed anything yet,

838
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: but will be signing with the Sons as soon as

839
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: they come to a correct dollar figure. Yes, so it's

840
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 3: going to happen. It got leaked out that way. That's

841
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 3: how the story comes out.

842
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: Just one of my bug bears. When people go with

843
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 4: they have resigned. He hasn't put pen to paper yet.

844
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: That it's true. He hasn't yet. The decision too is

845
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 3: the notable part of that, to be fair.

846
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: But there has been there are circumstances and it is

847
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 2: reasonably common where a player might actually physically re sign

848
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: but the announcement doesn't happen for weeks afterwards.

849
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: It doesn't get announced.

850
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: I did Adam Simpson quietly resigned even here ever, senior

851
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: coach quietly resigning his contract being extended like that.

852
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, weird stuff, yes, not that you can do with it.

853
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: It's just how the media cycle happened to work.

854
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: On Sunday, I'm sure there were a couple of people

855
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: out there that thought that Matt Rael came off just

856
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: as part of his natural rotation that started the third quarter,

857
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: and by.

858
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: The resigning rotation, he was sub died at the CUSP

859
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 4: for three quarter time for contract reasons.

860
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: That is the end of fear of face. It is

861
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: now time to open the mail.

862
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: Bag on the Fox Foody podcast. It's time to open

863
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: up the mail bag. Have a question for the panel.

864
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: Tweet us every Monday morning at Fox.

865
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: Footy, Russell Russell Russell digs out letters if you let

866
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 3: us to dig out. I think thank you to everyone

867
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: who wrote in at Fox forty on Twitter on a

868
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: Monday morning. You tweet in, we read it.

869
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Speaker 2: It's not like you do it at tweeted at different

870
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 2: times it's no.

871
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: It's like I remember when I remember on Sunday night

872
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 3: to schedule the tweet, It's like, all right, either nine

873
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: fifteen or eight forty five, which ever takes my fancy.

874
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: And then people ask questions just a good week this week,

875
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: such as this one from the Jack Neevan Memorial Library.

876
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 4: Who asks a good place?

877
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: Are we underplaying the loss of Dan Houston in Port

878
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: Adelaide's subpar performance this year?

879
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: Well, they haven't really replaced. Well, Caane Farrell was supposed

880
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 2: to be the replacement, and he's a very different player.

881
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: Having said that, Dan Houston probably hasn't shot the lights

882
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 2: out of Collingwood.

883
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: No, he hasn't. That could be a comparison. I mean

884
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 4: Lockie Shorts didn't shoot the lights out. I different players,

885
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 4: but it felt like it took him twelve months age

886
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 4: it to Colin was brand No, they Josh sim was

887
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 4: touted as one in the preseason and then they sort

888
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 4: of switched it to Cane Farrell, and then Farrell and

889
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: Houston have turned out to have very different tendencies in

890
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: that same role. Yes, and it's just continuing.

891
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: Because but both the meters gained players, but Farrell's mainly

892
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: kicking while Houston was run and kick.

893
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, Farrell's kick is penetrative and very very good,

894
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: as is Houston's. But I would I prefer Carrols for

895
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: Carrol Farrell's a little bit more whereas as you said,

896
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 4: Houston gives a little bit more run. Yeah, hasn't. Hasn't

897
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: worked out for them. I would agree that's good call,

898
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 4: Jack ginging in the moral library.

899
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 3: When you're losing all Australia and it has an impact.

900
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: Finally enough to Americans watching the footy masks Gold Coast

901
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: have lost three in a row but still have a

902
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: game in hand and all the other sides in the

903
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: finals race based on current trends and the remaining fixture,

904
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Speaker 3: how loud are the sos same old sons?

905
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Speaker 4: A last ringing not Stevens.

906
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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: Well, Damian Harbig was just about this directly on three

908
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: point sixty last night and he was adamant that this

909
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: is a very different team two past years. I think

910
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: narrative wise, we will never sort of be able to

911
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: get that out of their heads, but it is, Yeah,

912
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: there might be some similar person, but they've got an

913
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Speaker 2: extra one or two years experience under their belt, which

914
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Speaker 2: counts for a loss.

915
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: There is a world where this is their Melbourne twenty

916
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Speaker 3: seventeen season where the d's were coming and then they

917
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Speaker 3: missed out on percentage in the final round and they

918
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 3: lost to Collingwood West Coast. Maybe had to build percentagegainst

919
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: adelaide to make the eight and then the next year,

920
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Speaker 3: next year latter in the bottom right hand corner of course,

921
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Speaker 3: one of those great ends of the season. Next year

922
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Speaker 3: they make a prelim. That's an entirely realistic scenario for

923
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Speaker 3: the Suns. Is it not miss finals. May sneak into

924
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Speaker 3: a prelim next year, So even if they do miss out,

925
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Speaker 3: it's not a disaster. It could drive them next year.

926
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Speaker 3: It's interesting that watching them play the end of the

927
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Speaker 3: ground you feel worse about them is sort of their

928
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Speaker 3: tall forwards, but they're scoring incredibly well. Like the Walter

929
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: is a young key forward. He's not doing a lot

930
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 3: even really young, but they're not doing a huge amount

931
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Speaker 3: and Ben King is very good kicking goals and that's it.

932
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Speaker 4: So it's very even spread. On Sunday had Ainsworth, Ben King,

933
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Speaker 4: Twok Miller, Bailey, Humphrey, Noah and all kick two.

934
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Speaker 3: So that's a lot better when you're getting that.

935
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Speaker 2: It's kind of like the Sydney profile of last year

936
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Speaker 2: where they didn't necessarily have a dominant key Ford, but

937
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 2: they got a lot of goals out of their mids.

938
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Speaker 4: Adam Marty for one game, who kicked nine's the Crows

939
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Speaker 4: and everyone else just chimed in.

940
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Speaker 3: And they're leading. They have the most inside fifties per game,

941
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: so like a lot of stuff is working for them. Yeah, okay,

942
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: it's just if they do miss out, it will be disappointing.

943
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: Where do they rank defensively? The Suns well at the moment.

944
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Speaker 3: Purely looking at the ladder, they've played one game less,

945
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Speaker 3: so it's I think they're probably a little bit below

946
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: average compared to the rest of the contenders, but they're

947
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Speaker 3: not like crazy.

948
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Speaker 4: Bad just outside the Premiership window you reckon mask.

949
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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably not top six Actually, no, they've been top

950
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Speaker 3: six for a while. They've been the last time we

951
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: checked it, they've been in the window. I look forward

952
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Speaker 3: to couch at some point over the next few weeks,

953
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 3: we'll bring back the window. Everyone's favor LK asks. This

954
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 3: is all lower caps, so I presume it's depressed. Why

955
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 3: do I support Carlton? Why do I care about AFL.

956
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: Have you got any other sports I should follow?

957
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: Max, being our homepage editor, is across a lot of

958
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Speaker 2: different sports, any sports issues.

959
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 4: The Cabarti has got a fair growth and I don't

960
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 4: know in India. There's a lot of people in India.

961
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Speaker 3: Well, I think a lot of businesses think that and

962
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: then they try and make money there and then they

963
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: realize that no one wants to pay it for people.

964
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Speaker 4: Billy Gowers, he did Cambarti for a little bit too,

965
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 4: that's right.

966
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: Didn't like Campbell Brown, wasn't he on the.

967
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: Comardiys and Hairball? Josh Kennedy recently represented Australia.

968
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,959
Speaker 3: And a game at Margaret Court. Yes, what's what's fun?

969
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: It's hurling fun? Is that any good? That's that's a sport?

970
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: I like Baseball's all right?

971
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 4: Baseball? Yes, yes, Slow, I'm getting into golf. You could

972
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 4: do golf.

973
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: Golf have a storm going this year, Max.

974
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: They're they're good. I think that they have the best

975
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: points differential on the ladder. They're below the Bulldogs and

976
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 3: the Raiders with Ricky Stewart and charge.

977
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: Ricky's Raiders of course, could.

978
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 4: Really hone in on like an amateur football club as

979
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 4: well like their local.

980
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: Football Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be more fun.

981
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 4: I do have that Fitzroy how they're just now in

982
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 4: the ammos but they still have so many loyal fans

983
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 4: and watch them that could be nice.

984
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, bring the disappointment closer the home instead of going

985
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Speaker 3: to the.

986
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: Marvel, consider Petrol the Carlton Blues. You could support the Croydon.

987
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: Blues or the Uni Blues. How are Croydon going at

988
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 3: the moment?

989
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: I think they're a premier division I think might? I

990
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 2: don't follow them too clear?

991
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 3: Two of the Eastern FOOTBA League powers that we should

992
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 3: all be in normally.

993
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: It's born Noble Park.

994
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 4: A couple of listeners oft Boerwin just quietly to this podcast.

995
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 2: Doncaster, none of Wadding very much.

996
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: Not a power house very much.

997
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: But they are the ones who lost thirty four in

998
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 3: a row or whatever it was in Division four.

999
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah sorry Park loss a lot, but work there have

1000
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: worked their way back up slightly.

1001
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: Congratulations to all involved, all fantastic football clubs. Will finish

1002
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: with a question from my sister Becky Becky who asks

1003
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: out of the three clubs who seem to be in

1004
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 3: a perpetual loop, of disappointment, Carlton, Saint Kilda and Essendon.

1005
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 3: Who do you see as the first to escape it

1006
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: and finally climb up the ladder At his final excellent question,

1007
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: we're a smart football family, I.

1008
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: Would say what I would say great families, I would say,

1009
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: I would say Essendon.

1010
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 3: I'm quietly optimistic about them, even though I don't think

1011
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: they're very good right now.

1012
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 2: Because I can't see any of Carlton, Sekild or Essenon

1013
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 2: doing it in a hurry. But Essendon seems best place

1014
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: from a list perspective, and I just I think Brad

1015
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 2: Scott knows what he's doing. Yeah, I've just he's kept

1016
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: it real all the way through.

1017
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 4: I have enjoyed that side of him. Yeaheah.

1018
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: And so I think, yeah, that gives me more most

1019
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: confidence that they kind of know where they're at. And

1020
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: to be fair, so does Ross as well. And so

1021
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: I think Sin Kilda or essen are a bit more

1022
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: parallel in terms of their current standing, whereas Carlton seems

1023
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: at the moment and that the narrative is popular but

1024
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: it seems to be on the decline, even though, as

1025
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: you point out, MAXI they're not necessarily old.

1026
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: No, they could still be. They should still have a

1027
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: better next two years than both Essenon and Saint Kilda Culton,

1028
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: but the Sainda have the best young players of that group.

1029
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: It depends what happens with.

1030
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Speaker 2: Those They've drafted very well in the last few years.

1031
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: If Essendon had drafted like Sint Kilda has over the

1032
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: last five years. The last two draft they' don't okay

1033
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 3: with Coco and Caddy, especially Caddy, But if they drafted

1034
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: like that like Esston could probably be pushing for the

1035
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: eight right now. That is their missing link is the

1036
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 3: good picks from the sort of twenty eighteen to twenty

1037
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Speaker 3: twenty two drafts.

1038
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: Archie Perkins sub again, it just is not clicking for him.

1039
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: Nick Cox is obviously struggling with concussion at the moment.

1040
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: Zach Reid had another injury setback, but he recently re signed,

1041
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: so that looks like they've struck there. But the sort

1042
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: of ben Ben Hobbs was was a plyloft, just kind

1043
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 2: of slid too fast, So I think they ended up

1044
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: just he was too good to let go on draft night.

1045
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: And there's clearly have too many mids and Sardis is

1046
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: in and out of the team.

1047
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: Have there been. I've seen sort of comments from I

1048
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: can't remember which sistant coach it was, but mentioned that

1049
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: talking about those midfielders like Sardis and Hobbes, basically saying, well,

1050
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 3: who are you playing them above? Who are you playing

1051
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: them out of because we have too many mid in

1052
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 3: the pecking order? Is that a little bit of a

1053
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: backaded comment previous recruiting? Do we think?

1054
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 2: Potentially?

1055
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 4: Quite possible?

1056
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Speaker 3: Potentially I mean that the recruiting is the reason they're

1057
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 3: in the situation of that of assigning too much talent

1058
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: to one area of the ground.

1059
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Speaker 2: Well, and their best mid theory is currently off half back.

1060
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Speaker 4: It has to change this week shortly.

1061
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Speaker 3: I'm torn between whether like, it's weird that Zach Merritt

1062
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: is not playing where Zach Merritt is a superstar, but

1063
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 3: at the same time it doesn't matter this year.

1064
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 4: But who's the guy that's going I don't know if

1065
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 4: is it young talent that's going in there?

1066
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: And if there's clearly a kid that needs a chance

1067
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 3: and you're moving Merrit out for him because this season

1068
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 3: is irrelevant, then it's great.

1069
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Speaker 4: It's like Carlton, right, if you have crips Cherah Hewitt right,

1070
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 4: and you have to try and find Yaggo Smith in

1071
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 4: there in twenty twenty six. You can move the maggots

1072
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 4: around and makes it a little bit more on this

1073
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: a little bits makes a little bit more sense. I

1074
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Speaker 4: don't know who's doing that at Essen at the moment.

1075
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Speaker 4: That's kicking air quotes Zak Merhrett out of the midfield

1076
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 4: for a significant amount of exposure. I have to have

1077
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Speaker 4: to look at the numbers, but from what I've seen

1078
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 4: on TV, it hasn't been overly obvious as to why

1079
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Speaker 4: that would be the case.

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Speaker 3: The old cbas I'll try and find what's happened and

1081
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: this Bank Australia. No cinemount of tendences against against Freemantle.

1082
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Speaker 3: It was of course Vigo Vizantinian doing his best against

1083
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 3: Luke Jack's debut, although Jackson was like the best game

1084
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: for a rocker, so you know, not a great debut,

1085
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: but good name Cearfield, Caldwell, Merrit forty eight percent and Parish, right,

1086
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 3: so not really the kids there, No Cetarfield, Coldwell is good.

1087
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 2: Coldwell's seconds midfield behind Merrit.

1088
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: Yes, but you know Parish and Cearfield. That's not the

1089
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 3: core of a twentyfield. I think he's been good.

1090
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: I thought they would have moved past Sedifield, but when

1091
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 2: he's in there, he has an impact.

1092
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 3: Right, So it's it's been at least half of all

1093
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 3: center bounces in every game he's played this year.

1094
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: The thing is that with Setterfield doesn't have a lot

1095
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: of versatility in this game.

1096
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 4: He always has to play in the midfield nine getting

1097
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 4: a very.

1098
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: Niche at the moment. So I hope.

1099
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: I'm sure they're appreciating fans. That is the end of

1100
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 3: the speaking of Essendon.

1101
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 4: Yes, mail bag, is now time for want to hear

1102
00:47:58,840 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: from one of their.

1103
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: Greats, Kevin Cheat No, sheety, I say, sheety, she says Kevin. Yes,

1104
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 3: that's how this thing works. Pockets of Greatness has been

1105
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: great to us, guys. But this will be the final

1106
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: reading from the final because I think I've run out

1107
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: of bits from this book and I have to go

1108
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 3: to the second book I have, so you know, we'll

1109
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: see what happens in the heart.

1110
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 4: We've passed the halfway market the Sceason.

1111
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: That's right, I've rationed it out quite missing two episodes

1112
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 3: as helped.

1113
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: Do you have another Tom Pryor penned book?

1114
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I do.

1115
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: So.

1116
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 3: This was Sheedy's second book, right, so I fear that

1117
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: his first book will be more about himself and less

1118
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: about random thoughts. But well, I will see how it goes.

1119
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 3: I'll read through it over the week, and I make

1120
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 3: sure we have some good that it's. It's not a

1121
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: dense read. This is the thing like you think it is,

1122
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: but I can flick through it pretty quick. Right. This

1123
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 3: is from the epilogue, because this book has epilogue because

1124
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: it's a narrative.

1125
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 4: I guess.

1126
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: Kevin says, The first thing I do is talk straight.

1127
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 3: Young people realize right away if you're feeding them bs,

1128
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 3: they turn off and think about something else. Unless you're lucky.

1129
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: You've lost them.

1130
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 3: Essen and coach Kevin Sheedy, proud father of four, didn't

1131
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,959
Speaker 3: mince words when discussing a favorite topic, what he calls

1132
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: building bridges to youngsters. What we adults have to understand

1133
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 3: is that we grew up in a totally different world.

1134
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 3: We accepted TV and eventually learn how to operate a video.

1135
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: Our kids are traveling in an information super highway using TV,

1136
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 3: CD ROMs and audio visual aids. We didn't even dream about,

1137
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: let alone our parents who didn't even have TV when

1138
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: they were kids. We might like it, but our kids

1139
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 3: are facing problems we never knew. It's up to us

1140
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 3: to at least consider their decisions before we weigh in

1141
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: with advice to the contrary. Number one new Maroono to

1142
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: my way of thinking is that you have to keep

1143
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 3: on trying, having a go. As the sun Ron's ANZACs

1144
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 3: put it, Australian g and D the guts a determination

1145
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 3: Teddy Whitten loved never goes out of fashion.

1146
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 4: Wow, that was an impassionedge was his final message to

1147
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 4: the kids who are all buying the book of a

1148
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 4: former AFL coach.

1149
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 3: We're not and all.

1150
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 4: Seemed to be going to Video Easy at the time. Blockbuster.

1151
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: It's more a blockbuster man myself, but video initially I

1152
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 3: suppose you know, was there.

1153
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 2: A Blockbuster in close to Waverley Park back then.

1154
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 3: There was one? There's a Video Easy get stud Park

1155
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 3: and then there was a Blockbuster at Wellington.

1156
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 4: Village, a Blockbuster at Hyde Park.

1157
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: Adelaide for those great excellent excellent. When do you think

1158
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 3: the last one in Australia is all?

1159
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: Was?

1160
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 4: I feel like I know this Queensland.

1161
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: Maybe that's that sounds like the old stuck in time stagments.

1162
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: There was still a sizzler in Queensland, wasn't there? Yes?

1163
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, All you can Eat? Is it like a

1164
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: different branch or something, because there was I remember there

1165
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: being all you can eat places. There was one like

1166
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 3: near Knox City. My second date with my girlfriend, we

1167
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 3: went to an one of those buffet and we've been

1168
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 3: together ten years, so it's worked out.

1169
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 4: Located in Morally a summer of Perth, Western nineteen Yeah, oh,

1170
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 4: COVID did it one year before COVID.

1171
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 3: W A didn't have COVID as we know so well.

1172
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: Because shout out to all those listening from Morley, it's

1173
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: now the time for the tips and the Cups. It

1174
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: was described, I think as not the most exciting round

1175
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: of AFL football, but we're going to give you a

1176
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: reason to tune into every game this week. Port Adelaide

1177
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: and don't put that on us.

1178
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 3: That sounds like a lot of fun.

1179
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: Port Adelaide and Carlton on Thursday night for the cam

1180
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 2: Oshay Cup, you said, this is a fifty to fifty,

1181
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: genuine fifty fifty game. That's the reason to tune in.

1182
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: I have no idea who's going to win.

1183
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 2: This.

1184
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: I think I put down Carlton in my tips already,

1185
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 3: but I'm already regretting it. So I guess Port, because

1186
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 3: they're at home, might be the default tip. Yeah, but

1187
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 3: how the.

1188
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 4: Hell do I tip this? Yeah, I'm I'm Port. Just

1189
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 4: the fact that they had a bad game for the

1190
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 4: two frequent game, but like.

1191
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: It's the most Carlton thing ever to respond to a

1192
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,959
Speaker 3: week of pressure. And then I feel like it's also

1193
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: poored as well, but they haven't got the pressure. The

1194
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 3: worst thing for Port is that Carlton lost on the weekend.

1195
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 3: If Carlton had just beaten North, Port would absolutely win

1196
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: and this would be the week would we get disapported

1197
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: in Carlton. But because they lost, they're going to bounce back.

1198
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 4: Home ground advantage has me still going Port. But I

1199
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 4: do take your point, Ben.

1200
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: I used the Tom Morris rebound effects. She loved that

1201
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: last week by tipping North Melbourne because North Melbourne were

1202
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: gallants in their loss to Freemantle the week before and

1203
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: Carlton were those.

1204
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 4: Car just beat West Coast.

1205
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: That's right, sorry, both great North Melbourne just lost to

1206
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: Freemantle and then Carlton were unconvincing in their win over

1207
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: West Coast. So when for the rebound effects would have

1208
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: worked with tipping.

1209
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: Brisbane as well, it would have Yes, some merit to it. Yeah,

1210
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: it's almost like progression to the mean is a thing.

1211
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: Sydney and the Western Bulldogs on Friday night ed Barlow

1212
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 2: Cup up for grabs here. This is the kind of

1213
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: game where the Western Bulldogs could be the Western Bulldogs.

1214
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is as I said, I think this

1215
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 3: is the swing game. If they lose this, they become

1216
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: the most likely top nineteen to miss. I still think

1217
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: they good enough to win it though. Ye.

1218
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to Sydney right, I can say it.

1219
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 2: Gold Coast and Melbourne for the Matthew Warnock Cup must

1220
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: win for the Sun.

1221
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: Yes, and then bounce back game should have won against

1222
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 3: THEWS bounds back against the demons, you would think.

1223
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 4: Ping stats time band y, Yes, welcome. With twelve the

1224
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 4: last thirteen games Gold Coast have lost to Melbourne. They

1225
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 4: won their most recent as we know, in round three.

1226
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 4: I believe it was Round three at the MCG. The MCG.

1227
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 4: The Sun's last beat Melbourne at People First Stadium, which

1228
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 4: I dare say was called metro Cons Stadium back in

1229
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 4: round twenty twenty thirteen, correct, So definitely twelve year first

1230
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 4: coming up for the Suns.

1231
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: If they're to do it, then they played a really

1232
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 3: close game I want to say twenty nineteen ish where

1233
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: they both sucked at maybe Tom McDonald kicking the winner.

1234
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like the.

1235
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 3: Winning point in the final.

1236
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do that on Saturday Saturday night. I

1237
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: don't remember that.

1238
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 4: This one was one that I think we'd confuse people

1239
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 4: who I send this email to, because in the same

1240
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 4: amount says Melbourne has won their last four games at

1241
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 4: People First Stadium, despite Gold Coast losing their last five

1242
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 4: to Melbourne, but obviously COVID has done that too.

1243
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 3: A lot of they played random teams at People First.

1244
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: Yes they did. I vaguely remember Melbourne played Essenon in

1245
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. That was John Warsfall. The last game is

1246
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: Essendon Senior coaches Hawthorne and North Melbourne are playing in

1247
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: Tasmania for the Lance Paconi Cup.

1248
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,479
Speaker 3: Not the Tasmania Cup.

1249
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 2: No, well it could be well, just.

1250
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 3: Like maybe only one of them gets to have games

1251
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 3: in the state from now on.

1252
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: After this, they're pretty committee in the short term. Yes,

1253
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 2: to Tasmania. Both of them are I.

1254
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 3: Think they're a bit busy doing an election at the

1255
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 3: moment to care about which team gets kicked.

1256
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: Do we have a date for the election? Yes, I

1257
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: think it's.

1258
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 3: July seventeenth, soon ish. There were some weird polling that

1259
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 3: came out saying that Tasmania hates the stadium, and I

1260
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 3: think I think, broadly speaking, there's a lot of negativity

1261
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: towards the deal, but I think it was a push polling,

1262
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 3: as they say, a bit skewed. Hawthorne wins this.

1263
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 4: Game, right, Hawthorne does win this game? A pro on

1264
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 4: Lance as well.

1265
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: Glen PACONI yes, oh the now. Now he's one of

1266
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: my personal favorites. I do bend the Cup's rules slightly

1267
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: for Lance because he also did play at Adelaide, but

1268
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: he's one of the great characters. Lance PACONI back in

1269
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: the day to say that's that's the main reason I

1270
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: during my peak schooling days, I did a back in

1271
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: sort of late two thousands when Facebook was the thing.

1272
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: I did add Lance Patoni on Facebook and he did.

1273
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 3: Accept, so that I was doing the same thing with

1274
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 3: like random wrestlers. I've got Tony Atlas as a friend

1275
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 3: who was like a rest through the eighties, Tony.

1276
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 4: I missed that period, but I do have Pavel florin

1277
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 4: the Roman.

1278
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Max would have done a few stories.

1279
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 3: Into a BBL draft or two, I think over the years.

1280
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, very very successful. Collingwood and West Coast Saturday Night.

1281
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: Josh Smith cup up for grams here.

1282
00:55:53,880 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 4: That's the most generic name ever. Collingwood wins, Yes, Colin wins.

1283
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 4: West Coast have lost eight of the last nine under

1284
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 4: the dome.

1285
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: Of West Coast and Richmond because Richmond showed this is fascinating.

1286
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: But they're both young teams and both have shown promise

1287
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 2: at ree Richmond earlier in the season, west Coast a

1288
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 2: little bit more lately. Can you see? Is one more

1289
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: likely to fall over hard in the back half of

1290
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: the season when we get to winter, we get to

1291
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: the back end, these young teams get tired. Who is

1292
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: better set up for the back half of the season.

1293
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,479
Speaker 3: Richmond looked tired after quarter time against the Dogs like that,

1294
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 3: Like I said, that happening because they are They've got

1295
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 3: a lot more young talent who's getting their first run

1296
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: at things this year.

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00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know how this works, but I do

1298
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 4: know Richmond still have a few young guys on their

1299
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 4: list coming back from injury. I think Harry Armstrong. I

1300
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 4: think Josh Simile is doing some conditioning as well as

1301
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 4: Harry Sam Lawler as well. So I don't know that

1302
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 4: freshens up the dynamic a little bit going into the

1303
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 4: last eight weeks of the season. Yeah, I would actually

1304
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 4: say West Coast plably more likely the fallover at the

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00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 4: back end. But the last two.

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00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 3: Years West Coast have won two games in their last

1307
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 3: five or six weeks, so they have actually had pinched

1308
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 3: a couple right at the end of the season.

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Speaker 4: Season, are you're saying yes?

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Speaker 3: Next season?

1311
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: Richmond and Adelaide speaking for Tigers for the Richmond for

1312
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: the River, the Richard Tambling cups should.

1313
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 3: Have known, thanks very much.

1314
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 4: Chris Knight's maybe a contender.

1315
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: He was very stiff. But Richard Dambling is Richard Tambling

1316
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: actually correct?

1317
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: Adelaide has to win one of their four games against

1318
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 3: the bottom six that they need to bank to get

1319
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 3: into the finals.

1320
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvel, is it the g.

1321
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 3: The G's Maybe they should hypnotize the Crows into thinking

1322
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 3: it's at Marvel instead of the G and.

1323
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 4: They might fire four thirteen and partly cloudy at the

1324
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 4: gr excellent.

1325
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: Better for better for Adelade if it was at Marvel

1326
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 3: in both ways because Richmond, as we no hates there.

1327
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: And then this game's at three twenty as well, isn't it. Yes,

1328
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: of course this game's at back Games at three twenty,

1329
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: and this game Freemantle and Sekilda for the Brett Peak

1330
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: Cup is at five to ten Eastern Standard time original time.

1331
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 4: I can't remember five to ten pm ever, I've had

1332
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 4: five twenties.

1333
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: I do remember maybe early in seasons pre daylight savings

1334
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: maybe we had a few, not not this year.

1335
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I think you're right, like like round

1336
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 3: one or two, Like, yes, it would be a Freemantleson

1337
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 3: killed game adopt. Yes, yes, that's a very early season game. Again,

1338
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: Frio has to this is the time of the year

1339
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: where these top nine teams just have to keep winning.

1340
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 3: I think they've there have been not that many times

1341
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 3: this year where top nine teams have been upset by

1342
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 3: bottom nine teams, so there is a big class stratification.

1343
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 3: They need to continue that.

1344
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 4: Free Oh but danger game.

1345
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 3: The good reason that the good part about this being

1346
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 3: a five twenty games that it gives me a couple

1347
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 3: more hours to write the Run Home before it is

1348
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 3: unveiled at eight pm on Sunday eight pm, well straight

1349
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 3: after the game.

1350
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: Seat your watches, set your social notifications, have Fox free

1351
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: notifications on, Ready for the run home, the spreadsheets looking

1352
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: tip top four.

1353
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 3: It's had the pre season of its life.

1354
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 4: No trust me, what comes first to three word analysis

1355
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 4: or the run home?

1356
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 3: Three word analysis gets on the back burner. Unfortunately, point

1357
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 3: the end of the season and we're gonna care about

1358
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 3: the big dogs.

1359
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:07,280
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