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Speaker 1: On over Now Monday nights. Well, if you work in

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Speaker 1: the industry, there's quite a few people that watch Media

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Speaker 1: Watch on the A v S. It's on quarter past

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Speaker 1: nine every Monday night. And because if you are mentioned

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Speaker 1: on the show, you're in the firing line. Paul Barry

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Speaker 1: doesn't hold back, and we thought, well, this is a

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Speaker 1: perfect opportunity for a man to end Matt Degrout's career.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Well, when you report on some of the stories

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Speaker 3: that do come out of the media, I mean, although

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Speaker 3: there can be a serious sight, is part of you

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Speaker 3: that has a bit of a laugh behind the scenes

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Speaker 3: at times?

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Speaker 4: Well we do.

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Speaker 2: I mean I had to admit I don't listen to

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Speaker 2: your show, so you can now admit that you don't

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Speaker 2: see media boats on Facebook? It was all fun.

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Speaker 1: Why did you ask for pitball tickets?

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Speaker 2: We do a thing on Thursday. She's called media bats

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Speaker 2: on Facebook's about four minutes long. That's that's pretty much

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Speaker 2: all fun. Out of everything that's really good.

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Speaker 4: It's just even hearing your voice, it just makes you

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Speaker 4: a bit nervous because of professional because you feel like

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Speaker 4: when Paul Barry is looking at you, it's like the

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Speaker 4: police are about to pull you over for an arbat.

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Speaker 4: You don't think you've done anything wrong, but you feel

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Speaker 4: like you're doing something wrong just because he's around.

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Speaker 3: You're about to be charged with not actually writing your

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Speaker 3: own news.

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Speaker 1: Have you been issued with a lot of cease and

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Speaker 1: desist and all that kind of stuff? Do you is

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Speaker 1: there ever been a moment where you've been worried with

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Speaker 1: some of the backlash that you get because, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've written books about warning Kerry Packer, You've written books

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Speaker 1: about everyone. Do you get some phone calls where people

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Speaker 1: raise their voices to you?

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Speaker 2: Paul very little, but writing the carry back a book

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Speaker 2: years ago, got a very very unpleasant legal letter from

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Speaker 2: carry Packers, one of his directors, saying, we will sue

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Speaker 2: you and anyone you talk to, including the tea lady.

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Speaker 2: Anyone has anything to do with the production or sale

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Speaker 2: of this book. We will seal them and we will

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Speaker 2: come after them for everything you've got.

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Speaker 1: You're obviously we do a bit of research to know

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Speaker 1: what you can write and what you can't write. Are

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Speaker 1: there certain things that you left out for legal reasons?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the pack A book, I actually left

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of stuff. And then when he died,

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Speaker 2: I was able to write that. Yeah, there's a version

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Speaker 2: called The Rise and Rights of Kerry Packer Uncut, which

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Speaker 2: is about a mistress he had who committed suicide and

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Speaker 2: she ran a brothel for him, essentially up on the

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Speaker 2: Northern Beaches, which serviced some of his sports stars and

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Speaker 2: political mates. Wow, that was not something I could write

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Speaker 2: while he was alive, because I thought even if I

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Speaker 2: could prove it was true, it would just I'd just

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Speaker 2: be buried in legal action.

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Speaker 1: As soon as this is amazing, you have no fear.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't going to do that when he was alive.

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Speaker 3: And outside of those kind of carry Packer stories, was

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Speaker 3: there a celebrated story that was a favorite of yours

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Speaker 3: about Kerry Packer.

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Speaker 1: We hear about the gambling and stuff like that. Was

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Speaker 1: there a story that it sticks out in your mind?

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Speaker 1: Didn't he go some big Texan gambler over there and

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Speaker 1: he said, I'll bet you millions.

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Speaker 2: On Yeah, yeah, I'll bet your hundred billion. I'll toss

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Speaker 2: you for it. Look, there's a whole there's a whole

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Speaker 2: lot of stories about Kerry Packer, but I think some

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Speaker 2: of the childhood ones are the best. They're also pretty

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Speaker 2: touching because he had a brutal childhood from his father. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and I think the bowling machine that his dad bought,

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Speaker 2: that Kerry bought actually for James. He set it up

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Speaker 2: in the backyard and was firing it down, getting the

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Speaker 2: hundred miles an hour. And Kerry was perfectly happy to

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Speaker 2: go in and face that. But he also wanted James

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Speaker 2: to go in and face it too, and so you

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Speaker 2: know he was. He had a brutal child on himself,

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Speaker 2: and he then inflicted not quite such a brutal child

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Speaker 1: But still, well, you seem to get off on ending

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Speaker 1: people's careers, and we're more than happy to win Maddie

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Speaker 1: to Groot.

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Speaker 2: So I can end my own.

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Speaker 3: Exactly right now.

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Speaker 1: Look, he takes a lot of pride in this poet.

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Speaker 1: We take a topical story and you've got to give

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Speaker 1: us your best headline. We've given you the stories just

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Speaker 1: before you come into the studio this morning. Are you

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Speaker 1: ready to play this? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Are we going to do all right? Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Paul Barry will be up against Maddie Dgrid. It's the

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Speaker 1: headline off Next, we have Paul Barry from Media Watching

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Speaker 1: you're watching every Monday night, nine fifteen on the A

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Speaker 1: B C. He is here up against Maddie degreed. It's

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Speaker 1: the headline old.

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Speaker 4: To read out headlines.

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Speaker 3: Against it right sometimes.

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Speaker 4: Down down down down down to Matta gretown down.

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Speaker 3: Well, metaphorical.

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Speaker 4: Headlines everyone.

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Speaker 1: We'll let Matt de Grout go first.

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Speaker 4: It's just he's just trying to have looks, see, because

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Speaker 4: we have got better ones than I've got. The sales

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Speaker 4: Lease sales did this. And when you take on someone

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Speaker 4: from the ABC, you feel you need to up your game.

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Speaker 4: When you take on the person who is the watchdog

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Speaker 4: for the industry, you've got to bring your best.

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Speaker 5: Good and I've brought my best, all right.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Paul's installed a bug or

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Speaker 1: something in the studio and we could be on Media

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Speaker 1: Watch next weeks.

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Speaker 4: It's a bat.

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Speaker 1: On the show, all right, Here we go, Paul. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to give it to Matt the group first. But

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Speaker 1: the first topical story this is, without a word of

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Speaker 1: a lie, A man lives for twenty one years with

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Speaker 1: fourteen toes. It's a basic one man lives for twenty

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Speaker 1: one years with fourteen toes. Best headline, Matt Degroup.

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Speaker 4: An incredible feet for this man's feat, but fourteen toes

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Speaker 4: is totally gross.

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Speaker 3: I don't feed and feet the tail off, we kind

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Speaker 3: of fell off a cliff at the end.

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Speaker 4: Very safe again, mister Barry, please all right? Take it away?

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Speaker 1: Well, Barry, here we go.

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Speaker 2: So many toes would make some scream, but if you're

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Speaker 2: at Bata's Uni, it's one girl's dream.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: While that story is incorrect, everybody is gonna kill me

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: I could write a whole book on that story.

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Speaker 4: So you've given that to Paul.

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Speaker 1: You can go first on this one second story wild

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Speaker 1: Kangaroo jumps through the windscreen of a car and sits

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Speaker 1: in passenger seat. Kangaroo jumps through the windscreen, sits in

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Speaker 1: the passenger seat. Best headline, Paul, kangaroo jumped in my

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Speaker 1: window and it shot me to my bones. But I'd

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Speaker 1: prefer that any day than having to listen to Jones.

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Speaker 3: Jones, have you ever reported on yourself?

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Speaker 5: First up tonight, Cagar reverses through a window and leaves

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Speaker 5: a car.

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Speaker 4: Totally rooted joke.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if everyone's across that listening. But you

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Speaker 1: know what poor even knows what it means. You get up.

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Speaker 2: One as well.

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Speaker 4: The game double O, you go first, Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Mom who drank forty cups of tea to day buried

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Speaker 1: in giant box of tea bags. Mom who drank forty

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Speaker 1: cups of tea to day, buried in a giant box

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Speaker 1: of tea bags. Best headlined.

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Speaker 2: Old bag gets a tribute in a tea bag.

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Speaker 5: Mat. The group we know.

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Speaker 3: Where you're going, don't worry about.

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Speaker 4: I was also getting progressively more like an old school

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Speaker 4: news reader.

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Speaker 1: Just I love the moors. Just get one.

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Speaker 3: You're right here.

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Speaker 4: A mum whose toaster and now ghost becomes her own

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Speaker 4: brand of English roast.

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Speaker 2: No clean sweep for pop. Respect your second headline.

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Speaker 1: I was disgusting Waking Paul marrying threes.

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Speaker 4: It's fizzy Quiver on Nova