1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: It's Monday, January twenty seven. Marcia Langton, one of Australia's 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: most eminent historians and Aboriginal leaders, has accused university leadership 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: of allowing antisemitism to flourish under the false cloak of 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: academic freedom. That's an exclusive live now at the Australian 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: dot com dou The federal government is overhauling the rules 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: to bring in thousands of registered nurses from the UK, Ireland, 8 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: the US, Canada, Singapore and Spain, dramatically slashing wait times 9 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: to transfer their qualifications. Big smiles and a show of 10 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: defiance from four young women Israeli soldiers kidnapped by Hamas 11 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: on October seven and freed over the weekend as part 12 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: of the Middle East's fragile peace a trade in human 13 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: beings as her mass releases hostages and Israel freeze Palestinian prisoners. 14 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Today we look at the fate of Nama Levy, who 15 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: was nineteen when she was seized by Hamas in harrowing 16 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: scenes from her military base in southern Israel. She was 17 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: wearing bloodstained gray tracksuit pants that became an emblem of 18 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: contested claims about sexual violence. In Palestine Square in Gaza City, 19 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: a gleaming white Heyundai station wagon pulls up. Surrounding it 20 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: is a thick group of men in black or camouflage. 21 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: All their faces are concealed. They wear green Hamas, bandanas, 22 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Sarma carrying ak forty sevens. Others hold cameras. There's a 23 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: crowd of people surrounding the square, cheering, and then from 24 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: the car step four Israeli soldiers, young women aged nineteen 25 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: and twenty, Ena Ariev, Daniella Gilboa, Larry Albag and Namalev. 26 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: They look fresh and clean. They're wearing military style khaki uniforms. 27 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: Each girl has her long, dark hair swept back from 28 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: her face. And as the crowd of Palestinians reaches a 29 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: roar and the girls are marched onto a makeshift stage 30 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: adorned with Palestinian flags and her mass banners with slogans 31 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: like Gaza is the graveyard of the criminal Zionists. Something 32 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: remarkable is happening. The young women are beaming. They're waving 33 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: and smiling to the crowd, to the representatives of Hamas 34 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: and Palestinian Islamic Ghad who have kept them hostage for 35 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy seven days, and who are handing 36 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: them over to the Red Cross. It's a deliberate show 37 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: of power. These young women, they will later tell Israeli media, 38 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: are not going to cower or cringe despite the ordeal 39 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: of captivity they've endured. Daniella, Leary and Nama are holding 40 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: their heads high. We showed them on the stage that 41 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: we were not phased, one of the women told their 42 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: families in a report on Israeli station can TV. It 43 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: had no impact on us. We are stronger than them. 44 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: Back in Israel, watching the live footage, the girl's parents 45 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: know what they're seeing. Footage released by the Israeli Defense 46 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: Forces shows the parents laughing and pointing with delight at 47 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: their girl's show of strength, and a few hours later, 48 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: the girls leap back into their parents' arms in an 49 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: Israeli hospital, their hair freshly washed, wearing civilian clothes. It's 50 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: a scene that families have been dreaming of since the 51 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: girls were kidnapped. On October seven, twenty twenty three. In 52 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: shocking scenes captured by Hamas fighters of the young women 53 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: wearing civilian clothes, including what looked like pajamas being tide 54 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: and forced up against a wall inside their base. On 55 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:09,279 Speaker 1: October seven, namal Levi pleads I have friends in Palestine. 56 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: Larry Albag asks for the men to speak English. 57 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: Someone Subsequent videos show the women being loaded into what 58 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: seemed to be Israeli Army vehicles to be taken into Gaza. 59 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: Another video shows Nama Levi being transferred into a jeep. 60 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: You can see a barefoot woman pulled from the trunk 61 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 3: of a jeep by a gunman and then forced into 62 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 3: the backseat of a car. Her face is bleeding and 63 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: her wrists appear to be cable tied behind her back. 64 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: Number is wearing a black T shirt and pale gray 65 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: tracksuit pants as in the earlier videos, but in this scene, 66 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: the back of her pants is dark with what could 67 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: be blood staining. This image caused huge concern in Israel 68 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: and beyond that Narma and the other women held by 69 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: her mass were being sexually assaulted. It also fed into 70 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: something that became a raging argument in places like social 71 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: media as the world reacted to the horror of October 72 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: seven and the devastation that came after. As Israel acted 73 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: out its vow to destroy her mass. Israel accused her 74 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: mass fighters of raping and sexually torturing women in the 75 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: October seven attack that triggered denials and conspiracy theories, claims 76 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: that stories of sexual violence were all Israeli propaganda, and 77 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: in the middle of all that, Nama Levi's bloody track 78 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: pants were freighted with meanings. Over the past fifteen months, 79 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: women around the world have demonstrated by holding up pictures 80 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: of Narma captioned to don't look away, and by dressing 81 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: as Nama wearing a black T shirt and gray tracksuit 82 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: pants stained with dark red at marches and demonstrations, including 83 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: in the US, Canada, France, and in the UK. In August, 84 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: a twenty foot replica of NAMA's gray stained pants was 85 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: erected outside the Democratic National Convention in Chicago. Yoonni Bashan 86 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: is a senior journalist with The Australian and he's reported 87 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: from Israel in Gaza over the past fifteen months. Yi, 88 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: what was it about Nama of all the people who 89 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: were taken hostage on that day that made her story 90 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: resonate around the world. 91 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: Well, I think it was the image of Nama Levy 92 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 4: that really crystallized the type of barbarism that we saw 93 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: on October seven. I mean, there are many images that 94 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 4: arise out of that awful day, and one might think 95 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: of the scenes of another hostage, Noah Agamani, who has 96 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: since been freed, and the photographs and footage of her 97 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 4: being loaded on the back of a motorbike and taken 98 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 4: into Gaza. 99 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 5: But really it's. 100 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: The images of Namah Levy, a young girl of nineteen 101 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 4: who was seen being basically dragged by the hair out 102 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 4: of her car, appearing to have had her achilles heel 103 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: cut so she couldn't run away, and really the sight 104 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 4: of her soiled clothing that seemed to suggest the nightmarish 105 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: possibility that she'd already been attacked and abused. And it 106 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 4: really felt to people watching that it was a taste 107 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: of what these poor hostages were likely to endure for 108 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: however long they would remain in captivity. 109 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: What did you make of that very stage marriage scene 110 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: in Palestine Square in Gaza City. 111 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: I was certainly hardened to see them looking reasonably well 112 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: and smiling and giving thumbs up for the cameras, But 113 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 4: I was well aware in my mind that this is 114 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 4: a highly stage managed affair, and we know from other 115 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: hostages who've been released that in the lead up to 116 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 4: being handed back to Israel, they were fed correctly, they 117 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: were treated better, they were given better clothing, and once 118 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 4: they arrived back in Israel and granted interviews to meta 119 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 4: outlets and spoke to people close to them, we know 120 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 4: how they were treated in captivity, and it was terrible, 121 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 4: and it varied for each of the hostages. Some of 122 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 4: them were held underground, some of them have been murdered underground, 123 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: and some were held captive in the homes of certain 124 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,239 Speaker 4: individuals who are either aligned directly with COMMAS or affiliated 125 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 4: with the terrorist group loosely. But what I would say 126 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 4: is that looking at that stage managed and quite grotesque 127 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 4: affair of having these four young women paraded before a 128 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: crowd and put on a stage and seen to be 129 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 4: smiling and seen to be joyful, I wouldn't trust any 130 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: of it, nor would I suggest to anyone that they 131 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 4: draw anything from that. I mean, we really need to 132 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 4: hear from these hostages what they went through, and in 133 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 4: all likelihood what they went through was the worst experience 134 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: that anyone could go through in that scenario. 135 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, what did the women go through? 136 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: And what happens next in this prisoner swarp. The Australian 137 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: Open is over after thrilling men's and women's finals. You 138 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: can read the latest from our correspondents at Melbourne Park 139 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: right now at the Australian dot com dot au and 140 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: we'll be back after the break. Reports are starting to 141 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: emerge about what Karina, Daniella Leary and Nama went through 142 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: in captivity. According to Israeli media, the women have told 143 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: family and friends they were held in domestic dwellings and 144 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: were frequently moved, and had gone for lengthy periods without food. 145 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: They said they had been ordered to cook and clean 146 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: for the families holding them captive. One said she'd been 147 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: held in a tunnel alone. Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari, an 148 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: IDF spokesman, said Israel was gravely concerned about some of 149 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: the civilians still being held in Gaza. 150 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 5: Hamas failed to meet its obligations to first release Israeli 151 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 5: female civilian hostages as part of their agreement. 152 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: This seas of ideal was supposed to be that Hamas 153 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: would release civilian women and children before soldiers. In return, 154 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: Israel is releasing Palestinian prisoners in tranches of hundreds at 155 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: a time. In return for the four soldiers, Israel released 156 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: two hundred Palestinians, who were welcomed by jubilant crowds in 157 00:10:53,080 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: the city of carn Yunis. Some of the most famous hostages, 158 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: the Bibas family, father Yaden, mother Shiri, toddler Ariel and 159 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: baby Kafir have not been released, and now the Bibas 160 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: family is terrified that Shiri and her children are dead, 161 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: a fear enhanced by Daniel Hagari's words. 162 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 5: We are determined to return to the return of our Beeliahood, 163 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 5: an Israeli citizen kidnapped from near Oz, and also Shiri 164 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 5: Beavas and her two children, Kafir and Ariel, whose welfare 165 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 5: we are extremely concerned about. 166 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: Along with Shiri, there are two more female hostages supposed 167 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: to be freed in this round, a Beeliahood and another soldier, 168 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: a Gamberger. A Hamas official has told reporters Abeliahood, a 169 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: twenty nine year old from the Kibbutz near Oz, is 170 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 1: alive and will be released next Saturday. Palestinian Islamic g 171 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: Had claims she is a soldier, but her family in 172 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: the Israeli government say she is not until she is released. 173 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: Israel says it won't allow Palestinians to return to the 174 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: northern Gaza strip, which it pounded with artillery and a 175 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: land invasion after October seven. For its part, Hamas claims 176 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: Israel is breaching its end of the deal and accuses 177 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: Israel of firing on Palestinians attempting to return to the north. 178 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: In total, Hamas has agreed to release thirty three hostages 179 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: in missed first phase, including women, children, the elderly and 180 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: wounded men. The first week of the deal, with seven 181 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: hostages now released, is over. Now three hostages per week 182 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: are due to be released over the coming four weeks, 183 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: with fourteen to be freed in the final sixth week 184 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: of the first phase. Concern is growing in Israel that 185 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: some of the remaining hostages are dead, and her Mass 186 00:12:51,160 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: isn't saying either way. It's a public holiday Monday across Australia, 187 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: but if you've had enough Pavlova and some bathing, you 188 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: can escape to Australia's best news and analysis anytime at 189 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: the Australian dot Com dot au