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Speaker 3: to the show. I'm Hailey and I am Lauren, mother
Speaker 3: of two.
Speaker 4: I've got kids, not ever? Oh my god, and you
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Speaker 4: don't understand my struggles.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: This podcast is our first podcast that we have recorded
Speaker 3: since you have given birth, postpartum, post postpart.
Speaker 4: That what does it even mean?
Speaker 2: Six months postpartum?
Speaker 4: Six months? My god, I'd forget I had a chart
Speaker 4: at six months.
Speaker 2: What is postpartum? It just means after birth?
Speaker 4: The fourth trimester? Yeah, oh okay, I was thinking about
Speaker 4: that last night. No one talks about the fourth trimester.
Speaker 2: What's the fourth trimester?
Speaker 4: The actual having the baby part?
Speaker 2: Well, that's what we're doing right now. Oh okay. Title
Speaker 2: of the episode fourth trimester?
Speaker 4: Oh good one. Okay, See what's the shopping list today?
Speaker 2: The shopping list is bear bet a bear bet a
Speaker 2: bear bet, and I need, I need. I've come into
Speaker 2: your house today like a whirlwind.
Speaker 3: I have just had a wild morning of hating everything,
Speaker 3: and I just wanted to run away from my house
Speaker 3: and go on a solo holiday.
Speaker 4: You were actually you were tearing up over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're okay, just leaving my house having two boys
Speaker 3: of fighting and no one listens and they're ungrateful and
Speaker 3: all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: I just had one of those mornings, and I know
Speaker 2: that tomorrow will be a different day.
Speaker 3: But I need to like fall in love with having
Speaker 3: a baby again, because at this moment, you have a
Speaker 3: little one week old sitting in our room right here
Speaker 3: on Burgo's lap, that you can never imagine ever.
Speaker 2: Getting angry at. But one day you're gonna want to
Speaker 2: throw out the window.
Speaker 4: I still remember having Sofia and I had a one
Speaker 4: week old little baby, and you're like, one day you're
Speaker 4: going to look at that baby and think it's a
Speaker 4: fuck it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was like, that is disgusting. How can you say that,
Speaker 4: you little vermin? Took a few years, but I got there.
Speaker 4: I reckon.
Speaker 3: I took three months to call Ostina Wenker, let's go.
Speaker 3: I am one for details. I want every single detail.
Speaker 3: Do not skip details. If this is your thing. We're
Speaker 3: about to talk about the birth from beginning to end,
Speaker 3: and I want to start with the morning you woke up.
Speaker 4: Your alarm goes off. Okay, can I just say as well,
Speaker 4: I've had a bit of a chest infection, so I'm
Speaker 4: currently I've got an antiicle in my mouth. It's a
Speaker 4: really great time to be having a really big cough
Speaker 4: when you've got internal stitches. Oh have you popped on yet?
Speaker 4: I've actually thought I had. It's been that bad a cough.
Speaker 2: Yes, And you're holding your tongey and your gunt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm holding the gunt, trying to cough, trying to
Speaker 4: hold the baby. At the same time. You kind of
Speaker 4: look like and I tried not to like bleed everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so it's fun.
Speaker 2: Okay, alarm goes off.
Speaker 4: Well, Burjo's alarm went off because I never said alarms.
Speaker 4: You know me, I don't like to be so weird.
Speaker 4: You wake up with the sun. I was like, what
Speaker 4: are we waking up for? He's like, we need to
Speaker 4: go to the hospital in fifteen minutes. I was like,
Speaker 4: all right. So we had a shower and it was
Speaker 4: very different to the last time. Like last time when
Speaker 4: we had Sophia, Burgo didn't sleep the night, he was
Speaker 4: really stressed. I slept like a baby. It was actually
Speaker 4: fairly similar. I slept like a baby. This time. He
Speaker 4: kind of slept too. And we woke up feeling really
Speaker 4: excited and really happy. And the night before we'd went
Speaker 4: out for dinner with our parents and Sofia went off
Speaker 4: with Nana no Nor and it was really exciting and
Speaker 4: we went had a little date night and had to
Speaker 4: buy chocolate crepe.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Florence's head just he's like flopping everywhere right now.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna get really.
Speaker 3: Distracted in this podcast because Burgo is sitting next to
Speaker 3: Lauren with a little baby, his.
Speaker 4: Hand behind my head. So the alarm went off. Showered.
Speaker 4: I was just so excited, you know, for probably like
Speaker 4: the last three months, I've been ready to have the baby.
Speaker 4: It's been really it's very weird seeing them and going
Speaker 4: that was in me.
Speaker 2: It's so weird stuff, no wonder.
Speaker 4: I was heavy, and we hopped in the car and
Speaker 4: we drove to Ashford and it was just the most
Speaker 4: unbelievable experience. You get into the hotel, hotel hotel.
Speaker 2: It is a hotel.
Speaker 4: It is a hotel. You get to have a sleep,
Speaker 4: you get your muals delivered to you, to club. Wait,
Speaker 4: everything's all inclusive, and they go, what are you here
Speaker 4: for today? I'm like, I'm here to have a baby,
Speaker 4: And just saying those words it makes it all real.
Speaker 4: And you go up to the maternity ward and you
Speaker 4: put on your gown and you put on your little
Speaker 4: compression tights and they go, someone will be here to
Speaker 4: take you down soon. And then you're just left in
Speaker 4: a while waiting and you're like, do I need to
Speaker 4: do a nervous poo?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 4: Do I do it later? Like how does this work?
Speaker 3: They want you to pooh before as well, don't you.
Speaker 3: I think there's probably more if you're pushing.
Speaker 4: If you're pushing. Yeah, I wasn't pushing. I had to
Speaker 4: have a C section because I had one with Sofia,
Speaker 4: and I was so okay with that because I like
Speaker 4: to know what's happening for my brain.
Speaker 3: And also it was a safe thing for you as well.
Speaker 3: So at what point did the horse tranquilizer go in
Speaker 3: the back?
Speaker 4: So we went down and the anethetist, he was slightly late.
Speaker 4: He had to ride his bike in and his hands
Speaker 4: were cold, and yeah he runs on Italian time and
Speaker 4: he got there and we're like, oh, Doc, how did.
Speaker 2: He really ride his bike?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's fit. All doctors are fit.
Speaker 2: They ride their bike first thing in the morning.
Speaker 4: I was like, am I not paying you enough? Don't
Speaker 4: you have a car?
Speaker 2: They earned a lot of money too.
Speaker 4: Well, he's probably got a very nice bike, like a
Speaker 4: Lamborghinian bikes. He goes down on Blair Road, so he
Speaker 4: sped down in his little bike and his Lycra. He
Speaker 4: took his licra off before I saw him, so that
Speaker 4: was good and I was like happy, crying, happy tears.
Speaker 4: So you waste enough time. The energy is all going
Speaker 4: as you're like sitting in like a holding bay. It's
Speaker 4: quite funny. Do you remember the holding bay downstairs? You're
Speaker 4: waiting to go into the surgery.
Speaker 2: But we're like and you're being wheeled in, aren't you?
Speaker 4: Yep? Wheeled in on the bed and you get in
Speaker 4: and they're like, do you want to put your playlist
Speaker 4: on with music? And I was like, virgin and I've
Speaker 4: made a playlist. It's party. It's good, A bit of
Speaker 4: sleandy on, bit of see you a bit of.
Speaker 2: Everything leaned on Oh my god, my Heart will go on?
Speaker 4: Which one bit more of a banger?
Speaker 2: Is like Selena doesn't have many bangers. What was the song?
Speaker 6: It's coming back to Me?
Speaker 4: Oh my coming back? So that I love that?
Speaker 2: Hang what else is on the playlist?
Speaker 4: Literally, celendy on and see we've got I thought I
Speaker 4: showed you. I've got a video of me so drugged
Speaker 4: up singing that song on the bed.
Speaker 2: No, I need to see that.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, burgo singing too. Some lovely lady took
Speaker 4: my phone and took the most amazing photos and videos.
Speaker 4: They did it with Sophia too, do you remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so cool. You don't want to miss that moment.
Speaker 4: And it was funny because she was like asking me
Speaker 4: all these questions before. I'm like, no pressure, but like,
Speaker 4: my business is social media, so don't stuff is up.
Speaker 2: She would have died.
Speaker 3: She was like, you know anything, you feel me and
Speaker 3: then you stop, but you realize you just pressed play.
Speaker 4: Had one job, Like if she missed the birth, that's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: should be fired.
Speaker 2: All right, Have you got your playlist? I want to
Speaker 2: know what's on your players?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: I didn't have the playlist on my phone. It was
Speaker 4: on Burgo's phone.
Speaker 2: Bo, what's on the playlist?
Speaker 4: He's just doing baby things, funk sake, you wouldn't understand.
Speaker 4: Have you ever even been a mother?
Speaker 3: I hate it when people do that, They tell you
Speaker 3: how to hold a baby. I've had two kids, mate,
Speaker 3: I know what I'm doing like us. Yeah, have you
Speaker 3: ever had a baby before?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Seleene Dianna. It's all coming back to me now, guys action.
Speaker 6: Maybe these are selected by Lauren by See Your Unstoppable
Speaker 6: Madonna like a prayer? Come on, No, I didn't let
Speaker 6: it just say fell Yeah, terrible song, Dragostia, didn't the Door,
Speaker 6: Teddy Swims, Evanescence bring Me to Life? I mean, how
Speaker 6: fitting really? GZ and Hals him and I. Yeah, that's
Speaker 6: that's more because like our kids are going to leave us,
Speaker 6: like we do all this hard work for them, than
Speaker 6: they're going to leave us. It will just be Laura
Speaker 6: and I all the above Maino. I don't know who
Speaker 6: that is. Michael Jackson. Will you be there?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Thank god?
Speaker 2: Did you think of me.
Speaker 5: When that was on fall Out Boy?
Speaker 6: The same scene. Yes, that's why we put it in
Speaker 6: because we wanted you to be there. With us, Welcome
Speaker 6: to the Black Parade, My Chemical Romance, Selene Dion, Adrove
Speaker 6: all Night and Dire straight talk of life.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I love There is no rhyme or
Speaker 4: reason to any of those songs. By the way, they
Speaker 4: are completely chaotic. They literally go from Selene Dion to
Speaker 4: like when I Was an Emo and then back anyway,
Speaker 4: So that was our playlist.
Speaker 3: Did Burjo broadcast live from there as well? Yeah he
Speaker 3: didn't know b was he like introing and out throwing
Speaker 3: the songs?
Speaker 4: He was handing out free coffee vouches for Ashfred Did
Speaker 4: Jamaica play sponsored by Jamaica Blue?
Speaker 6: I was giving away free Ashford's days, every betraying, every song.
Speaker 3: You tend to send off his second night as well
Speaker 3: as and he got two bits people that are in media.
Speaker 3: All right, so there's a playlist. I want to talk
Speaker 3: about the horse training cliser because I know last time.
Speaker 2: For you that was really bad.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, it's not really a tranquilizer, but the epidural
Speaker 4: So everything this time just ran ran like clockwhere my
Speaker 4: veins worked. They weren't collapsing on drugs anymore. Or yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm a full druggy, so now my veins have taken.
Speaker 4: It was the first time. With the first chime, they're like,
Speaker 4: we've never done this before. Second time they were like,
Speaker 4: I loaded me up so good.
Speaker 3: So when you have an epidural, it kind of hits
Speaker 3: you in weird ways where you're, oh, he's just she's
Speaker 3: just being handed Florence, Florence in the machine noodle darling.
Speaker 4: My sweetheart, unfielded hip.
Speaker 2: My god, she's on the outside of you now. She
Speaker 2: was always in the middle.
Speaker 4: Do you know she's been in every podcast, every podcast. Oh,
Speaker 4: it's so cool when boring her.
Speaker 2: Look at her, So, hello, does she judge you like
Speaker 2: your other job?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, she's judging us. I don't know where they
Speaker 4: get their judgment from.
Speaker 2: I don't know where. That's so weird anyway, So you've
Speaker 2: had the epidural and it makes you.
Speaker 4: Go, yeah, all warm. I was really scared about not
Speaker 4: feeling my legs. I think I told you I was
Speaker 4: having nightmares, even though when they do their job right,
Speaker 4: you don't feel your legs, like you're in there to
Speaker 4: not feel your.
Speaker 2: Legs, I know.
Speaker 3: But then you hear some weird stories of sometimes the yeah,
Speaker 3: very very very rare, but sometimes the legs don't.
Speaker 2: But work for a while.
Speaker 4: Okay, well I didn't know that part.
Speaker 2: You didn't google that before.
Speaker 4: No, I can't google anything because i'm because then i'd
Speaker 4: know I was.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So everything worked so well, and it was really quick,
Speaker 4: and the moment that she came out, like everyone was like, badgoe, badgoe,
Speaker 4: stand up, stand up, it's happening. But it was like,
Speaker 4: I swear it was twenty minutes, twenty minutes from the
Speaker 4: epidural coming out.
Speaker 3: In those twenty minutes, what is happening? What are your
Speaker 3: doctors talking about? Because I remember distinctly what minm were
Speaker 3: talking about. Do you race horses? While they were cutting
Speaker 3: me open?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So in that twenty minutes they are literally going
Speaker 3: through seven layers of skin, but just talking about everyday stuff.
Speaker 4: Okay, I might hand the mic to Burger because at
Speaker 4: this point all I remember is my obstcution popping ahead
Speaker 4: over going. Guys, I'm just going through the muscle. You
Speaker 4: may feel something here, and I didn't really feel anything,
Speaker 4: But that's actually all I remember from this twenty minutes.
Speaker 6: The doctor was leaning over the you know, the privacy curtain,
Speaker 6: as if she was like cooking pancakes. She was so
Speaker 6: chill and so casual, and I'm like, you are slicing
Speaker 6: a human open and another one out of another human.
Speaker 6: And so in that twenty minutes, I was trying to
Speaker 6: be a support to Lauren and kind of distract her
Speaker 6: from everything going on around here, while also trying to
Speaker 6: listen because I'm on like high alert thinking. You know,
Speaker 6: when they're quick, things starts beeping and then it's a
Speaker 6: full emergency.
Speaker 4: I was just like.
Speaker 6: Waiting, nervous for something like that to happen. So that's
Speaker 6: all a like total blur for me. But we just
Speaker 6: had the playlist, we had songs on, we were singing along.
Speaker 6: We had two fantastic midwives in there who were talking
Speaker 6: to us about things and asking about Sophia and singing
Speaker 6: the song.
Speaker 3: You know, they are so good, are they? Midwives are
Speaker 3: the best. Are distracting you. They tap your head, they
Speaker 3: make sure you're okay. They just talked to you about stuff,
Speaker 3: and you think they're just having a conversation with you,
Speaker 3: but they're really doing an amazing thing by distracting you
Speaker 3: about what's actually happening.
Speaker 6: Everyone in that whole entire room was incredible and made
Speaker 6: a really peaceful experience. Lauren's crying. I'll hand the mic
Speaker 6: back over.
Speaker 2: Ones are the best.
Speaker 4: Oh no, do you know what it was? Because when
Speaker 4: you have a baby you get to fall in love
Speaker 4: with your partner all over again as well. And you
Speaker 4: were so good. You just you were laughing and stroking
Speaker 4: my hair and distracting me and you were just the
Speaker 4: best support.
Speaker 2: That's so nice.
Speaker 4: Oh sh I still I think this is a video.
Speaker 4: I think I found it. Listen to this. What have
Speaker 4: some lean deal unless to sleep on?
Speaker 2: Logooing?
Speaker 4: Bath knocking?
Speaker 1: Enough?
Speaker 3: You're just lying there, I'm literally lying there. Make us
Speaker 3: wear the bloody shower cat?
Speaker 4: At what point do they think one of my hairs
Speaker 4: is going to jump the kid like? I know I'm
Speaker 4: Italian and Greek, but how is my hair going to
Speaker 4: jump down my scar?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 4: How?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: Why am I in a hairnet?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: And also you want to look nice when you're giving birth?
Speaker 3: No one looks good in a hairnet.
Speaker 4: That's maybe my complaint.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's why I need to things up.
Speaker 4: I didn't need to be in a hand net.
Speaker 3: Okay, So little Bubba comes out over the sun roof
Speaker 3: and is handed to you.
Speaker 4: It's see your unstoppable. Guys, that's the song that one.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm coming out, Oh my god, waiting
Speaker 1: for that first cry about you, my lady.
Speaker 4: He lives up.
Speaker 5: The cry.
Speaker 7: It's so am I hearing hearing them crying for the first time,
Speaker 7: so weird.
Speaker 4: Can you hear my QUARKI voice? It sounds like I've
Speaker 4: just butted my cigarette to like give birth.
Speaker 2: Oh it's so weird. Oh my god, that's life starting.
Speaker 2: It's so beautiful.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Okay, so she comes out and then they put her
Speaker 2: on you straight away. Yeah, everything was fine. Burgo cut
Speaker 2: the cord.
Speaker 4: Burjo cut the cord. Do you also want to just
Speaker 4: talk about that how it all worked, because at this
Speaker 4: point I was also not just being stitched up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure some of this is very basic because
Speaker 6: a lot of people listening have had kids. But they
Speaker 6: take the baby over to like a warming station, the
Speaker 6: pediatrician checks her out, and then they invite you over
Speaker 6: to cut the cord. And I went over and it's
Speaker 6: calamari and her cord was thick and juicy.
Speaker 4: The figurest umbilical cord I think I've ever seen ever,
Speaker 4: Like googling umbilical cords, it was.
Speaker 2: Like overcook kalamari.
Speaker 4: But it was too much. It would over an inch thick.
Speaker 4: They went, oh that's a big.
Speaker 6: Really everyone was like, that's a juicy cord.
Speaker 2: Or she was fed well, she was looked after, she
Speaker 2: was in the good paddock.
Speaker 6: And then they wrap her up like they swaddle her
Speaker 6: like a little burrito, little baby Jesus, and then hand
Speaker 6: her over and then we did the skin on skin
Speaker 6: and went back to recovery and chucked her straight on
Speaker 6: the boob. I think at that point Lauren started feeding
Speaker 6: and she was a good latcher from straight up, which
Speaker 6: was good for Lauren.
Speaker 3: And so isn't it so amazing when babies come out
Speaker 3: they've been out for like what a couple of minutes,
Speaker 3: and they search for the boob and they know, like
Speaker 3: how do they notice?
Speaker 6: So weird? But also what I want to point out
Speaker 6: is the baby was searching for the boob. But Lauren
Speaker 6: full diva, can someone get me a cox heer?
Speaker 2: Did she?
Speaker 6: And one of them midwhile like a Juni midwife, is like, oh, yes,
Speaker 6: I'll go, and comes back with a cokes heer and
Speaker 6: she just grabs it and such it down.
Speaker 4: Do you want to say that you actually did say that.
Speaker 4: You're like, do you want to say thank you?
Speaker 2: To her?
Speaker 4: I was like, thank you. I just felt like, bubbles,
Speaker 4: you do.
Speaker 2: So munny.
Speaker 4: But also, you just had a baby.
Speaker 3: You can You've just cut open, you've grown a baby
Speaker 3: for nine months, you can.
Speaker 2: Be a bit of it.
Speaker 4: I just wanted something nice and cold, and she went,
Speaker 4: I'll go searching in the fridges. I was like, thanks, dolfaze,
Speaker 4: was it cold enough?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: It was?
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 4: It was the best drink I think I've ever had
Speaker 4: in my entire life. So then she was this poor
Speaker 4: midwife is holding this can with a straw as I sip.
Speaker 2: You can't drink out of a can with a straw either.
Speaker 5: She was Mariah Carey.
Speaker 6: The poor woman was handing it and like bending the
Speaker 6: straw into her mouth. She laid there getting you the
Speaker 6: blue when she was Stephen Hawking.
Speaker 3: Stephen Hawking, Oh my god, you do have this weird
Speaker 3: thing about you though.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you are a little bit direct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Diva, Like so you'll go into a nail bar
Speaker 3: and sometimes I get him embarrassed because I'm like, can
Speaker 3: you just be nice because you're quite demanding.
Speaker 4: Sometimes doesn't she's quite like, you do a demanding. You are.
Speaker 2: You don't realize you're doing it. But it's like this
Speaker 2: weird like rudeness.
Speaker 3: Like if someone nips you when you're getting a nails done,
Speaker 3: you'll like yelp and get angry at them.
Speaker 2: Well, don't knit me.
Speaker 4: Just be bettering your job.
Speaker 2: You were made to be talent, You're almost earth to
Speaker 2: be talent.
Speaker 4: Excuse me. I did the hard yards as a producer.
Speaker 4: I was a nobody.
Speaker 2: It's so oh yuck, are you saying with someone now?
Speaker 4: No, I'm still a nobody, says you. With your Kiela
Speaker 4: Deville jagged on. How many time for your jacket?
Speaker 2: So sweaty right now?
Speaker 4: With shipping Burgo said before, it is this fair on
Speaker 4: the outside. There's nothing in your denim jacket to keep
Speaker 4: you warm except my big honkers. All right, okay, so
Speaker 4: let's talk about the name. When she first came out,
Speaker 4: I got a message from Ferjo and I was filming
Speaker 4: in the river Land and I had to walk in.
Speaker 3: I was so freaking excited, and you said, don't tell anyone,
Speaker 3: And I told everybody in the winery at Mali Estate.
Speaker 4: Because either love Malius, we ate Greek food, wine Rendmark
Speaker 4: and the first.
Speaker 2: Thing I asked, is what's her name?
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: They haven't got a name yet.
Speaker 4: We actually didn't have a name, do you know? Everyone
Speaker 4: was asking our parents everyone. Our parents quite liked Mum
Speaker 4: and Annie liked Frankie, so they thought it was going
Speaker 4: to be Frankie. Yeah, because I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: I like Frankie. They're like, there it is because we
Speaker 4: would We literally gave no stiff sniff of a name
Speaker 4: to any of our family anyone. And it's only because
Speaker 4: we just didn't have it. We just thought we had
Speaker 4: about four or five names?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 3: Between the last two? Gigi and Florence? They were the
Speaker 3: top two? Would you say?
Speaker 4: I always liked Gigi, but I wouldn't say it was
Speaker 4: top two. I don't know, well the other one.
Speaker 3: I thought that Florence was it, But then, you know,
Speaker 3: when you find your name, but then you've got to
Speaker 3: just make sure that there's nothing else.
Speaker 2: That you like more.
Speaker 4: I think we kind of were always on Florence, won't
Speaker 4: we Yeah, But it wasn't until about one thirty. We
Speaker 4: had the conversation, like we had the baby at nine
Speaker 4: one thirty, we were like, I reckon, it's Florence. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so it took a while to come to the conclus
Speaker 4: We just wanted to hold her and feed her and
Speaker 4: look at her and be in our little bubble.
Speaker 3: I was on the phone to Burgo and this is
Speaker 3: before you'd come up with a name, and he accidentally
Speaker 3: just said it was talking about Florence and said Florence.
Speaker 3: And he goes, oh my god, maybe that's the name,
Speaker 3: because it just rolled off his tongue like it wasn't
Speaker 3: You hadn't named her yet.
Speaker 2: Maybe that was a sign.
Speaker 4: That was probably a sign. And then her middle names
Speaker 4: are Annie Jewels, so Annie after Burgo's mum and Jewels
Speaker 4: after my mum. So they're gonna always be watching over her.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 2: Now you wheeled up to your room.
Speaker 3: And now are you feeling a cacause last time it
Speaker 3: was full on with all the drugs.
Speaker 4: Yes, I was really like the legs start coming back.
Speaker 4: You know, they do the ice tree. Do you remember
Speaker 4: the ice treck? No, they put ice on your body
Speaker 4: to start working out where you can feel and where
Speaker 4: you can't feel. They're just so clever. I just think
Speaker 4: doctors and nurses and midwives are the most amazing people
Speaker 4: in this.
Speaker 2: I know, they're incredible.
Speaker 4: How do they know everything? And they do it calm?
Speaker 2: They study for men.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, that's how they go. Oh I thought it
Speaker 4: just came to them. No, no, yeah no, But they
Speaker 4: also do it so calm and kindly.
Speaker 2: That is also a skill you can't climb to teach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just you can learn all the book stuff.
Speaker 2: So how long to take your legs to feel like
Speaker 2: to fill your legs again?
Speaker 4: Probably about what six hours? Five hours, A couple hours,
Speaker 4: I don't know. But it was just also I think
Speaker 4: because I was expecting it, everything was way less stressful
Speaker 4: than last time, and I felt a lot more together.
Speaker 4: I wasn't on the hardcore drugs. I made sure I wasn't.
Speaker 4: Drugs just don't agree with me. No hardcore pankillers. They
Speaker 4: knocked me out. And last time I can't remember our
Speaker 4: parents coming in, yeah, talking like anything.
Speaker 3: And you do get cut open because you do have
Speaker 3: to be on so many drugs.
Speaker 6: I said the night before, I said, bab can you
Speaker 6: please this time just try and hold it together, and
Speaker 6: she goes, how rude, how offensive, I'm having a baby,
Speaker 6: I'm going to cut open, blah blah, bah blah, blah,
Speaker 6: And then I think when everyone came into the hospital,
Speaker 6: yourself included, Oh, you've got your shit so much more
Speaker 6: together this time. I think she realized I wasn't fucking
Speaker 6: messed last time.
Speaker 4: But you can't say that to hold yourself just we're
Speaker 4: laying in bed the night before he goes. Can you
Speaker 4: just try and hold yourself together a bit more? Like
Speaker 4: you're lucky we were with the kitchen like around sharp objects.
Speaker 4: I was, and I remember having my shower like twitching, going.
Speaker 4: He's got no fucking idea what we we do?
Speaker 2: You know what? You never like the night before you have.
Speaker 3: The baby, like surprising the more breakups don't happen at
Speaker 3: that point because you're just so irritated by everybody because
Speaker 3: nobody understands.
Speaker 4: But I was also very irritated the whole pregnant. Like
Speaker 4: at one point you said, I don't think you should
Speaker 4: be client facing.
Speaker 2: I did. We had to stop you seeing clients.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was just telling everyone I thought of them. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but that's actually kind of freeing. Then don't be annoying, Yeah,
Speaker 4: just be lovely and stuff. You're like, I don't think
Speaker 4: you should be doing this stuff or clients or anyone.
Speaker 2: Do you send anyone in email or get on text messages?
Speaker 4: Can you just work from home? But actually don't work?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 3: So I will say that, like when I saw you,
Speaker 3: you look like a you hadn't even given birth, like
Speaker 3: you did. You look bright and clear and everything, And
Speaker 3: I think it's because you were so happy. And second
Speaker 3: babies do that to you because nothing is new, everything
Speaker 3: you've done before, and you kind of go, what the
Speaker 3: fuck was I complaining about with my first one?
Speaker 2: Like a newborn is so easy compared to having a.
Speaker 4: Toddler, compared to having a toddler. And then I guess
Speaker 4: where you're at now you start doing the driving and
Speaker 4: the drinking and the like every age comes there he's fourteen, No,
Speaker 4: but no, you start going through all the chats. It's
Speaker 4: a lot. Every every age comes with a stress. But
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Newborns are like but they're pretty easy.
Speaker 2: Well, can I just say you haven't easy newborn?
Speaker 3: Things might change at some point, but right now, she's
Speaker 3: actually the dream I haven't.
Speaker 2: I've only seen her open her eyes twice, she sleeps,
Speaker 2: she eats.
Speaker 4: She's happy, she's so happy, she's so happy. But I
Speaker 4: have to say I think feeding. For me, breastfeeding is
Speaker 4: probably the hardest part of the whole entire thing. Okay,
Speaker 4: I find it so hard.
Speaker 2: Well this time, I thought you were finding it easier.
Speaker 4: Well, she latched so well. In the hospital, everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 4: you can hear her sucking and rund a mole, that's
Speaker 4: what my midwife said. She was sucking and swallowing and
Speaker 4: it was perfect. But then like my nipples were bruised
Speaker 4: and shredded, so there was like blood, there's bloody. Yeah,
Speaker 4: at one point there was some skin of mine on
Speaker 4: her mouth, so I had to pick off. And that
Speaker 4: that pain, you know when the milk comes out for
Speaker 4: the first time, and a lot of people say it's
Speaker 4: like your toes actually curl up when they latch. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the pain is that excruciating. But you got to push
Speaker 4: through her and everyone goes just pushed through it. You
Speaker 4: just gotta do it.
Speaker 3: What's this silver thing? This silver thing wasn't around when
Speaker 3: I had was breastfeeding. Everyone's talking about putting silver in nipples.
Speaker 4: Ah. Yes, they're called silvererettes. They're actually next to my
Speaker 4: bedside table. I can show you.
Speaker 2: I'm picturing like a thimble.
Speaker 4: It's like a thimble, but a bit wider, like a
Speaker 4: little dish, and you put them on your nipple, and
Speaker 4: silver has a healing it, so you don't put anything
Speaker 4: on them. So like sometimes I'd put lanilin on my
Speaker 4: nipples and then i'd leave the silver off, and then
Speaker 4: i'd feed and then i'd put the silver erettes on
Speaker 4: just with a bit of the colostrum, and it's supposed
Speaker 4: to just help them just repair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this time.
Speaker 4: You're creating already. Oh do you want royalties? You're not
Speaker 4: getting any, so I don't know what to give you
Speaker 4: this time.
Speaker 2: You're making more milk, do you think than the first time?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm definitely making more milk, but it's just the
Speaker 4: taste is hard. And also like if anyone can help
Speaker 4: me with this right now, going from the bottle to
Speaker 4: the boob. Yeah, she's so smart. She can get sixty
Speaker 4: meals of pumped breast milk in about a minute, or
Speaker 4: she can like hang off my boob for thirty minutes
Speaker 4: to get the same sixty meal. So there was a
Speaker 4: couple of days in there where she was like, I'm
Speaker 4: not latching. Why would I I'm not going to do
Speaker 4: it because he's just going to put it into a
Speaker 4: bottle and I'm going to get it quicker.
Speaker 3: They're so smart, but also good that she drinks a
Speaker 3: bottle because some babies won't take a bottle.
Speaker 2: And then your stuff, So it's you can't win. It's
Speaker 2: so hard, but it can't win.
Speaker 3: So it's you do know what, You're just going to
Speaker 3: make sure she's fed and that's all that matters.
Speaker 2: However it happens, it happens.
Speaker 4: So we're doing half half breast, half perfume.
Speaker 2: And Burjo can help too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been the best help changing the nappies and
Speaker 4: doing the night feeds with me because it can be
Speaker 4: quite lonely by your safety is three am. And then
Speaker 4: but then it changes when he goes back to work.
Speaker 4: I know, it's so good that guys don't go back.
Speaker 4: Guys now can have like he's got four weeks off.
Speaker 2: I know, that's like unbelieving.
Speaker 4: You know, when our parents had babies, there was nothing.
Speaker 4: There was no help, There was no maternity leave from
Speaker 4: the government, there was no time off for the partners.
Speaker 4: But also our like our dads, they were working, they
Speaker 4: didn't do anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also kids grew up fast. She saw this
Speaker 3: on Instagram on the weekend. Kids at eighteen, Now I'll
Speaker 3: have the mentality of a fifteen year old from the nineties.
Speaker 2: So because we do everything for our kids, do you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like when we grew up, it was you grew up
Speaker 3: faster and even like our parents generation grew up faster,
Speaker 3: whereas now we just molly coddle.
Speaker 4: We are molly Coddler's do you know? Even when like so,
Speaker 4: we sent texts to everyone and family members. Make sure
Speaker 4: you make a big deal of Sofia before you make
Speaker 4: a big deal of her baby, Do you reckon our parents?
Speaker 4: Did that? Maybe? Betting you fuck? Do you reckon my
Speaker 4: mama's going making sure you barler at a president maker
Speaker 4: deal of her. They just pushed me aside and Alex.
Speaker 2: Came out, we're all about the mental health. But mental
Speaker 2: health has never been worse. Interesting, Why is that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So Sofia has she been?
Speaker 4: She has been the best big sister, do you know?
Speaker 4: I will say, and I think Bergio you'll back this
Speaker 4: up as well.
Speaker 2: He's looking like stunned, Why are you stunned? Excuse me?
Speaker 4: The minute Sofia met Florence.
Speaker 6: The minute Sofia met Florence was beautiful. She has had
Speaker 6: moments of being the best big sister, and other moments
Speaker 6: like this morning where you were snoring your face off
Speaker 6: and I was getting it ready for school, where she
Speaker 6: was I had to like physically barricade her from coming
Speaker 6: in and waking you both up. So moments of being beautiful.
Speaker 6: The hardest thing about number two is Number one being around.
Speaker 2: No, it's true, it's nothing against them. It's hard.
Speaker 3: It's like, can I just read something out that Burgo
Speaker 3: said to me? This is a message I got on Tuesday,
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, right after we stop.
Speaker 6: Texting you if you keep using it against me.
Speaker 3: I literally saw evil thoughts running through Sofia's mind when
Speaker 3: she was leaning into the bassinet before she stopped herself.
Speaker 6: She Sofia is beautiful. She's a true Gemini. She's beautiful.
Speaker 6: She has these heart melting moments and then has moments.
Speaker 6: And you've looked after her for twenty four hours at
Speaker 6: a time, and you've seen that she has moments where
Speaker 6: there is a potential possession hearing.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but she's smart enough to she'll never tip
Speaker 3: over the edge. I don't think like she had a
Speaker 3: stick and was saying I'm gonna stab out in the head.
Speaker 2: But she didn't do it.
Speaker 6: She has the thought, and I've had thoughts before where
Speaker 6: I'm like, i feel like she would murder us when
Speaker 6: she grows up.
Speaker 5: Legit.
Speaker 2: Do you know what it is?
Speaker 6: They're the Menendez sisters, Sophia and Florence Menendez.
Speaker 4: Just remember our kids can find this online one day.
Speaker 2: But you know, you want to be real like it.
Speaker 3: All it is is Sofia's going to go through the
Speaker 3: biggest change of her life in that she started school
Speaker 3: this week. She's got a new sister. You've come home
Speaker 3: and you're feeding a little baby. She probably wants you
Speaker 3: heaps because you're giving Florence heaps. So she's going through
Speaker 3: all the things that she's doing. Is so normal, But
Speaker 3: Sofia's so smart. You're just going through things probably earlier
Speaker 3: than other people would.
Speaker 4: And also, I yes, is probably when you have a
Speaker 4: baby and you've got a two year old, they actually
Speaker 4: can't comprehend as much as a five year old. So
Speaker 4: having a bigger gap at five, she knows what's up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she can help.
Speaker 4: Is she helping getting the wipes, getting the naps? She's
Speaker 4: like doing up the inside out. Yes, do you mind
Speaker 4: getting my drink bottle from the bedroom, of course, Mum.
Speaker 2: That is the best. She's lacing it with arsenic or something, probably.
Speaker 4: I mean I didn't wake up for three hours after
Speaker 4: I drank from an.
Speaker 2: You were like that though with your brother, right, didn't
Speaker 2: you like send him out onto a main road?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I almost killed him, But you know we're fine now.
Speaker 4: It's a great guy, great guy, a plus electrical. No,
Speaker 4: but it's something about I was number one for four
Speaker 4: years and then this little thing came along and he
Speaker 4: was so much cuto and he's got blue eyes, and
Speaker 4: I was like, who gives a fuck?
Speaker 3: But now you started bleaching your hair in your five
Speaker 3: I don't want to look Italian.
Speaker 4: He had blonder tips for rosted tips. Now, we couldn't
Speaker 4: be closer that little that gap is perfect. But when
Speaker 4: you're twelve and your brother's eight and you've got a
Speaker 4: sleepover of girls and he's trying to be cool, you're
Speaker 4: so embarrassed. Yeah, we've got all that to go through.
Speaker 4: Sophia might be embarrassed if you one day.
Speaker 3: We are just so happy that she's here, and it
Speaker 3: was all great, and this is a whole different experience
Speaker 3: for you and Burjo.
Speaker 2: It's just so nice.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like your.
Speaker 2: Faunily is complete? Either family is complete.
Speaker 4: There's another video in there where I'm laying on the
Speaker 4: table getting stitched up, crying, going badgo our families complaint.
Speaker 2: It's a funny feeling. You got the feeling though.
Speaker 4: You've always told me about this feeling, and some of
Speaker 4: my friends haven't had the feeling. Therefore they haven't opened
Speaker 4: it to number three. They haven't done anything, and they've
Speaker 4: got like the two and three year olds now and
Speaker 4: they're like, do we have another one?
Speaker 6: Do we not?
Speaker 4: I'm done, you know, I know she's completed our little fair.
Speaker 4: It's the It's just like it's just the best two girls.
Speaker 4: I'm happy. You're awesome. I woke up this morning, like
Speaker 4: I said, falling in love with your partner all over again.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I slept in this morning and woke up burd just
Speaker 4: making sofia like little ham and cheese pizzas for the
Speaker 4: lunch box and putting them in the air Fright. I
Speaker 4: was like, I was going to do that and he's
Speaker 4: just doing it, like just those little things that when
Speaker 4: you're not always.
Speaker 2: Said this, if you have a helpful partner. It saves you.
Speaker 3: I think if you're more likely to really suffer with
Speaker 3: postnatal stuff if you don't have a partner that his
Speaker 3: hands on and helps, and it means you can't be
Speaker 3: a martyr either.
Speaker 2: You have to you have to accept help when there's offered.
Speaker 4: I'm still a martyr.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's in the gene.
Speaker 5: You are, but you aren't.
Speaker 4: It's the Italian in me.
Speaker 2: Fine, I'll do it. I'll get up and do it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's the guilt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the guilt. I'll still be a guilty martyr.
Speaker 4: But thank you.
Speaker 6: I love that she's thanking me and saying I was
Speaker 6: going to do it. You had no intention of doing it.
Speaker 6: You were laying there snoring. You said what time is it?
Speaker 6: I said seventy fifty seventy. You said Jesus Christ and
Speaker 6: then fell back asleep.
Speaker 2: This is what I love about Lauren and Burgos.
Speaker 3: I've told you she's a con artist and she doesn't
Speaker 3: really want to and that's what makes her the best
Speaker 3: sales person.
Speaker 4: You are never invited back on this podcast ever again.
Speaker 3: That is so you want to say.
Speaker 4: Anything else before we go?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do want to say something else. Every time
Speaker 6: I listen to this podcast, I always listen to it going,
Speaker 6: that's bullshit.
Speaker 5: The Mayo.
Speaker 6: There'd be no Mayo left in the country with the
Speaker 6: amount that you put on.
Speaker 4: So good, go fuck yourself.
Speaker 2: On that note, Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2: It is so nice to be on this couch with
Speaker 2: a little bubba, and I miss you so much at work.
Speaker 4: Are you okay to go through something?
Speaker 2: Eyes twitching?
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay at the moment. That's once if you need help.
Speaker 4: You know what's nice Betty's not sitting her nose in
Speaker 4: my fanny this time around.
Speaker 2: Because she could smell her coming out. Yes, because last time.
Speaker 4: We did this podcast, it was like a hand hanging outside.
Speaker 3: She's got her entire nozzle inside you. It was giving
Speaker 3: you a stretch to sweet with her nose.
Speaker 4: Whereas now she's by my feet going, oh, I'm sorry, Betty.
Speaker 4: I've got Betty, I've got Florence, and thank you for
Speaker 4: holding the fort. I'm never coming back, fucking see.
Speaker 2: That's another why checked out.
Speaker 4: All right, love you guys, Million Moggie over to you.
Speaker 2: Bye, see you next week.