Speaker 1: From the sky in Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for watching Happy Wednesday. Lots to
Speaker 2: get to this evening again. Congratulations to Sharry and her team.
Speaker 2: They are excellent shows. There'll be another one the same
Speaker 2: time tomorrow nights. Now, let's get straight to this cost
Speaker 2: of leaving number one issue in the country. One of
Speaker 2: the great concerns every parent or grandparent has is the
Speaker 2: kid going to be able to buy.
Speaker 1: A house one day?
Speaker 2: Did they talk about that today in Canberra? Pardon me, no,
Speaker 2: they did not. Instead, the federal government decided to waste
Speaker 2: our parliament's time by passing a law to guarantee that
Speaker 2: they won't sell the National Broadband Network. Now, you, of
Speaker 2: course have already spend tens of billions of dollars putting
Speaker 2: together a network that, yes, has absolutely improved the Internet
Speaker 2: capabilities of the country, but no.
Speaker 1: One was planning to sell it.
Speaker 2: This is like passing a piece of legislation to guarantee
Speaker 2: we call Tuesday's Tuesday. This was nothing but a distraction,
Speaker 2: nothing but a waste of time, and nothing but an
Speaker 2: opportunity for the Prime Minister to somehow be talking about
Speaker 2: something other than the multiple messes that he has created,
Speaker 2: presided over and made worse.
Speaker 3: We've introduced legislation into the House today that safeguards the
Speaker 3: future of the NBN, making sure it can't be private eyes,
Speaker 3: sold off or hollowed out because there's never been a
Speaker 3: public service or asset that the Liberal Party didn't want
Speaker 3: to carve up and sell off.
Speaker 2: That is what they.
Speaker 1: Do again, what who where? What?
Speaker 2: Policy like this is sort of MENI skip a pre
Speaker 2: medi scare campaign and again who amongst us is so
Speaker 2: particularly nervous about the ownership structure of the National Broadband Network.
Speaker 2: Of all of the issues for our parliament to be
Speaker 2: focused on today, this is what they decided to be
Speaker 2: focused on.
Speaker 1: I think this is a tremendous waste of time.
Speaker 2: Stephen Conroy is of course the man who made it
Speaker 2: all happen, that being the NBN. He's on the show
Speaker 2: with Brohmin Bishop tonight we will discuss that. For their
Speaker 2: point the opposition, well they called it out for what
Speaker 2: it is, a total waste of everyone's time today.
Speaker 4: It's an attempt to distract from the catastrophic failures from
Speaker 4: this government.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Interestingly, there was also a lounder little bit of slight
Speaker 2: of hand that took place today, which is the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister wanted to turn up on the six pm news,
Speaker 2: particularly after the disgraceful slur that took place yesterday, when
Speaker 2: of course he was accusing members of the opposition of
Speaker 2: having turets, as if it was some sort of.
Speaker 1: A put down.
Speaker 2: Well, all of this fake legislation, and I say fake
Speaker 2: legislation and that who is calling for it?
Speaker 1: Who is what's the penalty? It's just rubbish.
Speaker 2: Also happened after Question Time was moved from two pm
Speaker 2: this afternoon to nine o'clock this morning. Now the reason
Speaker 2: is because at the Ovenez he wanted to appear on
Speaker 2: the six pm news tonight like he was working all
Speaker 2: day in Cambada day.
Speaker 1: But guess what he didn't.
Speaker 2: You see, he's off to the Asian Conference, the very important,
Speaker 2: very very desperately important, a meeting of Asian leaders discussing this,
Speaker 2: that and the other. So the reality is Airbus Lbow
Speaker 2: is up in the air again and he fiddled with
Speaker 2: the parliamentary calendar today to make it look like he
Speaker 2: was working when really he was kicking back on TOTO one.
Speaker 2: Immigration is too high in Australia because it has major
Speaker 2: impacts on all sorts of things. But put simply too
Speaker 2: many people when there are too few houses is a
Speaker 2: relentless theme that I go back to, because well, we
Speaker 2: all know what the consequences are of too few places
Speaker 2: to rent and not enough places to buy, too many
Speaker 2: people trying to compete for either, which means the price
Speaker 2: for all of it keeps going up.
Speaker 1: Up, up up.
Speaker 2: Well, today, our dear friends at the Australian Bureau Statistics,
Speaker 2: that far right wing organization, gave us an insight into
Speaker 2: again the giant gulf between the number of people that
Speaker 2: are coming into the country and the new homes or
Speaker 2: units that are being built to house the existing population,
Speaker 2: let alone the new one. Now the unsexy headline is
Speaker 2: building activity Australia. The sexy headline is the one that
Speaker 2: Channel nine threw in, which was the bleak truth about
Speaker 2: Australia's housing shortage as new build numbers hits a ten
Speaker 2: year low. Now that is all true. I'll go into
Speaker 2: some detail in a moment and show you some graphs.
Speaker 2: But remember when I talk about all of this.
Speaker 1: In just two.
Speaker 2: Of the almost three years of this government, almost a
Speaker 2: million people have been brought into the country. Now we
Speaker 2: learned today that what only about ten thousand were sort
Speaker 2: of mechanical focused people. The rest, of course students, the
Speaker 2: rest family reunion where mum's too old and the kids
Speaker 2: are too young to work, but they all need somewhere
Speaker 2: to live. Nine hundred and sixty four thousand, two hundred
Speaker 2: people in the past two years added to the existing
Speaker 2: twenty five and a bit twenty six now well total
Speaker 2: twenty seven million people, who of course are looking for
Speaker 2: a roof over their head as well. Now let me
Speaker 2: break this down for you. There are lots of ways
Speaker 2: of looking at this, but let's do it this way.
Speaker 2: So I want you to compare June twenty and sixteen
Speaker 2: to the current year and the latest numbers we got,
Speaker 2: which was June for twenty twenty four So building a house, okay.
Speaker 2: In twenty sixteen, twenty nine thou seven hundred and ninety
Speaker 2: houses were built. Other residential basically units twenty five, nine
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty nine. How does that look today? Well,
Speaker 2: houses twenty five thousand, that's down four thousand, but the
Speaker 2: number of units is down twelve thousand compared to this.
Speaker 1: Time last year.
Speaker 2: Now, this is the buildings that are being commenced. Okay,
Speaker 2: so everything that's started, there are fewer houses being built.
Speaker 2: There are fewer units being built. Again, to give you
Speaker 2: an idea of this, in the ten year cycle, you
Speaker 2: can see that the graphs, well, the top one is
Speaker 2: for houses, the other one is for other residential. You
Speaker 2: can see it ain't a pretty picture in terms of
Speaker 2: the homes that have actually been completed. Okay, the completed
Speaker 2: numbers again, Let's go back to twenty and sixteen, twenty nine,
Speaker 2: seven hundred and ninety houses had been finished rather at
Speaker 2: this point in time, and the units that had been
Speaker 2: completed was twenty one hundred and eighty seven.
Speaker 1: What do you reckon it is today?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a ten year low because houses are down two
Speaker 2: and a half thousand, and the number of other residential
Speaker 2: that is being completed right now is nine and a
Speaker 2: half thousand. So when you look at the total number
Speaker 2: that have been completed is way down and the total
Speaker 2: amount that is being started is even lower, it means
Speaker 2: even fewer new homes, houses, units, villas, townhouses, granny flats.
Speaker 1: Or places for people to live.
Speaker 2: When the population is the highest that it has ever
Speaker 2: been and more than a million people have been added
Speaker 2: to that particular problem in the past twelve months. Oh
Speaker 2: but we're going to guarantee no one's going to sell
Speaker 2: the NBN and it'll look like question time didn't happen
Speaker 2: when I was in the air.
Speaker 1: This is how stupid they think people are.
Speaker 2: But we're not. We're on their tail and these numbers matter.
Speaker 1: Oh you may well have noticed.
Speaker 2: There was a massive seismic important event in Camber to
Speaker 2: day that had them just jumping off their chairs.
Speaker 5: And Senator Fatima Payman has launched a new political party.
Speaker 6: A Men's Handling of the conflict in Gaza spur Wa.
Speaker 6: Senator Fatima payment To quit the Labor Party in after
Speaker 6: and everyone.
Speaker 1: Today she announced her very own.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't care because she's not going to win
Speaker 2: a seat anywhere.
Speaker 1: I'll explain that in the moment or two his time.
Speaker 2: But of course the press conference was carried live, dutifully
Speaker 2: reported over and over and over and over and over again,
Speaker 2: as if her vote in the Senate matters, she'll always
Speaker 2: vote with the party who brung her Labor or the people.
Speaker 2: She's going to try to sit somewhere magically between, like
Speaker 2: sort of some sort of goldielocks, just right where she's
Speaker 2: not as left as the Greens, but she's not as
Speaker 2: right wing as Labor, and that's sort of the Goldilocks position.
Speaker 1: She turns around and says this today again dutifully. All
Speaker 1: the media, it's very big news. Are you covering this?
Speaker 1: Are you covering it?
Speaker 6: Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly,
Speaker 6: a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag
Speaker 6: the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what
Speaker 6: needs to be done, we will do it. There are
Speaker 6: some people who are so frightened to put a foot forward,
Speaker 6: to put a foot wrong, that they won't put a
Speaker 6: foot forward. This comment was made in nineteen eighty five
Speaker 6: and apply so much to the current Labor Party, who
Speaker 6: has lost its way.
Speaker 1: Who cares? Who cares?
Speaker 2: Okay, she is not the first person in Australian history
Speaker 2: to break up with a major party when she has
Speaker 2: not one, but like one in three quarter terms to
Speaker 2: serve in the Senate. Despite the fact that she will
Speaker 2: get nobody elected anywhere at the next federal election, she
Speaker 2: will still be part of our political conversation, like Lydia
Speaker 2: Thorpe until not this election, but then the one after that. Now,
Speaker 2: I have no doubt that she believes what she believes,
Speaker 2: and she has every right to break away from all
Speaker 2: of that stuff, right, But isn't it amazing how the
Speaker 2: media covers her dissension her new party as if it
Speaker 2: was something magical. If you and I wanted to start
Speaker 2: a political party, you'd need at least five hundred signatures.
Speaker 2: If you are already a member of the Federal Parliament.
Speaker 2: Guess what, you don't need any You, as a sitting
Speaker 2: member of Parliament, can just stand up, walk over there
Speaker 2: and tell them what the name of your new party is.
Speaker 2: That's why you have lots of different examples over many,
Speaker 2: many years of people breaking away from the party that
Speaker 2: brought them sitting there, pretending that they are representing a
Speaker 2: brand new political move, only for it to be flushed
Speaker 2: and become a trivia question because the reality of their
Speaker 2: political power is that Fatima Payman is lucky to be
Speaker 2: in the Senate. I don't say that because she is
Speaker 2: not fit and proper person, not because I don't understand
Speaker 2: the language of the youth or the issues that she's discussing.
Speaker 2: It's because literally, she was in a virtually unwinnable position
Speaker 2: on the Labor Party's ticket, but because the Labor Party
Speaker 2: vote was so good in Western Australia.
Speaker 1: She came with the party.
Speaker 2: And also I've got to say, I'm sorry, I just
Speaker 2: think it's a little bit rich that somebody who has
Speaker 2: been actively involved in party politics, as best as I
Speaker 2: can see, for only about five years, is wanting to
Speaker 2: start a movement because they've all lost their way. Now,
Speaker 2: technically speaking, this is only a couple of elections that
Speaker 2: we are talking about here. Now again, Fatima payment, good
Speaker 2: luck to hers. She is twenty nine years of age. That,
Speaker 2: by the way, is one year one year older than
Speaker 2: Albo's political career in the Federal Parliament, just so you
Speaker 2: know relative terms, right, She's born one year.
Speaker 1: He's elected the other.
Speaker 2: Fast forward twenty nine years, he's the Prime Minister, dear god,
Speaker 2: and she is now the leader of a brand new
Speaker 2: movement that didn't need a single other person to help
Speaker 2: her create.
Speaker 1: Now I had to look at it bio today.
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, university university pharmacist, fine electorate officer from
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. She was then a union worker and then
Speaker 2: of course up and into the parliament. Again, good luck
Speaker 2: to her, But what is it about the media covering
Speaker 2: her split from the Labor Party like, oh goodness me,
Speaker 2: we're going to head off to an election.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we're not.
Speaker 2: Also to get a spot in the Senate takes the
Speaker 2: best part of having to generate about fourteen percent of
Speaker 2: the vote. The person who was last on the bandwagon
Speaker 2: of a very long tale in Western Australia, I would suggest,
Speaker 2: is unlikely to be able to produce a quota in
Speaker 2: her own right when she goes for a re election,
Speaker 2: not at this election but the one after. Also the
Speaker 2: suggestion that well that her magical movement will somehow result
Speaker 2: in preference whispering that will get her the last Senate
Speaker 2: spot in every state. Now, this, of course, would only
Speaker 2: be possible if she doesn't just get the preferences of
Speaker 2: the Greens, which you imagine she would, but she'd never
Speaker 2: get the preferences from the Libs who won't give them
Speaker 2: to her, or the Labor Party who won't give them
Speaker 2: to her. And even if the Senate ballot paper is
Speaker 2: a kilometer long, there will not be enough fake options
Speaker 2: on the ballot or trojan horses on the ballot that
Speaker 2: I think will be able to produce what is required
Speaker 2: to actually become a senator. Now, one of the reasons
Speaker 2: people run for Senate is so you can have a.
Speaker 1: State wide appeal. But to actually get.
Speaker 2: There, you've got to have members that are paid up
Speaker 2: and proud volunteers that are willing to stand and hand
Speaker 2: out how to votes, not just at one polling booth,
Speaker 2: but virtually every polling booth, not just on election day,
Speaker 2: but for the multiple weeks before it. Now, again, good
Speaker 2: luck to her. She has every right under our system,
Speaker 2: no doubt. Plenty of people have their issues because she
Speaker 2: was of one party and broke away something else. But
Speaker 2: she ain't the first, she won't be the last. But
Speaker 2: the way the media selectively decides which senators who walk
Speaker 2: away from the party who brung them is rather interesting.
Speaker 2: What is their obsession with covering this lady? Jared Rednick
Speaker 2: is a Liberal senator, or was a Liberal senator until
Speaker 2: he lost pre election and then he left the Liberal Party.
Speaker 2: He too, was able to start his own political party.
Speaker 2: Was there throngs of cameras when he made this announcement?
Speaker 2: Was this in every six pm news bulletin? Could I
Speaker 2: see thought pieces everywhere when it happened?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Firstly, they don't like his politics. But secondly, just like
Speaker 2: the payment situation, with no disrespect to mister Renick has
Speaker 2: always been kind to me, it's not going to have
Speaker 2: a political consequence. It won't happen. Yes, they'll have a
Speaker 2: few thousand people on Twitter that are going to tell
Speaker 2: them you're about to change a world. Man, Well, Claide
Speaker 2: Palmer spent forty million dollars at the last election and
Speaker 2: he was able to get one senator up and otherwise
Speaker 2: two percent of the national vote. Good luck, miss Payment,
Speaker 2: because you're going to need more than just media profile.
Speaker 2: You're going to need actual members of your party, actual volunteers,
Speaker 2: actual money, actual policies. Not to mention, probably might need
Speaker 2: to change the name of the party from the thing.
Speaker 2: Sixty percent of Australians voted against, including in Western Australia.
Speaker 2: Now as we know, idiot Andrew Giles, the former Immigration Minister,
Speaker 2: is gladly the former Immigration minister because he was terrible
Speaker 2: at his job. But he was a mate of elbows
Speaker 2: and we couldn't get rid of that new government smell,
Speaker 2: so we had to pretend that he was moving into
Speaker 2: something else because.
Speaker 1: There was a reshuffle.
Speaker 2: The same with the Home Affairs Minister CLIs Claire O'Neil,
Speaker 2: who's a great performer and wonder great great performer, great performer.
Speaker 2: That of course is code for somebody who the media likes.
Speaker 1: Why did the media like people?
Speaker 2: Because they get spoken to by these people, both publicly
Speaker 2: and privately.
Speaker 1: That's just the way it works.
Speaker 2: Well, both of those people, as we know, shocking way
Speaker 2: that they handled the result of the High Court decision
Speaker 2: where people were let out of detention because one person
Speaker 2: was able to get a court to prove that you
Speaker 2: could now have indefinite attention. So rather than getting every
Speaker 2: single person who have to argue it, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: they all went out and you know there have been
Speaker 2: significant allegations of criminal matters that have followed since.
Speaker 1: But of course it's all a brand new broom now.
Speaker 2: Good performer, great performer, great great performer is Tony Burke.
Speaker 2: He is of course the Arts Minister. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 2: the Home Affairs minister. Sorry he is the Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: the Home Affairs minister. Right, he's the guys across all
Speaker 2: of this. He's the immigration man. He's the tough on
Speaker 2: the borders man. While also looking back and going oh
Speaker 2: look at the borderer on that art work, but still
Speaker 2: apparently two things can be true at the same time. Well,
Speaker 2: a question has been raised about somebody who has come
Speaker 2: in from Gaza. They came in urgently via the tourist
Speaker 2: visa system, a system that's been used by multiple governments
Speaker 2: multiple times. But still when we were told that security
Speaker 2: vetting was right and all the rest of it, the
Speaker 2: Liberal Party had a rather interesting question today. Of course,
Speaker 2: the question time that was done in the morning so
Speaker 2: you wouldn't notice the Prime minister had bugged off by
Speaker 2: the afternoon.
Speaker 4: The Albanezy government granted a visa to Fayes el Hassani,
Speaker 4: an individual the openly linked to terrorist organizations HAAMAS and
Speaker 4: Palestinian Islamic g HAD. In two thousand and nineteen, El
Speaker 4: Hassani reportedly hosted a summit of terror organization leaders, which
Speaker 4: he opened by stating, they must quote I quote confront
Speaker 4: the occupation by all possible means. Prime Minister, has the
Speaker 4: visa of this individual been canceled?
Speaker 2: Pretty simple question, right, Well, Tony Burt good performer, Good
Speaker 2: performer code for somebody who speaks to the media both
Speaker 2: publicly and privately, future leader, despite the fact that his
Speaker 2: actual support would be single digits and that's probably even
Speaker 2: in his own state. Well, this was his response, and
Speaker 2: you see he responds, and he plays four D chests
Speaker 2: differently than Andrew Giles and Clara O'Neil did. He just
Speaker 2: pretends the question doesn't matter.
Speaker 7: At any point we receive advice from our security agencies
Speaker 7: that a visa should be canceled.
Speaker 1: That is what will happen. That is what will happen.
Speaker 7: But this concept that shadow ministers should be the proxies
Speaker 7: for our security agencies is just a bizarre way to operate.
Speaker 7: Our security agencies work through the evidence that they have.
Speaker 7: They never stop collecting information, even after people are here,
Speaker 7: they never stop collecting information. And this government stands with
Speaker 7: full confidence in our security agencies.
Speaker 1: Now again, the people who were annoyed the.
Speaker 2: Good performance good performance have been affected by the failure
Speaker 2: to deal with iss issue in the past. Mostly many
Speaker 2: of those people in and around the press gallery hate
Speaker 2: watching us right now. The truth is the Tony Burk
Speaker 2: can't really do that. He can get away with it
Speaker 2: once or twice. But if this is the standard answer,
Speaker 2: which is, oh, I'm sorry, I'll deal with the security agencies,
Speaker 2: I won't deal with the question that's being asked by
Speaker 2: the opposition, were little only produce more questions from the opposition,
Speaker 2: which will of course mean you're going to say the
Speaker 2: same thing, which eventually is look like you're dodging something.
Speaker 2: And there are two people who were moved out of
Speaker 2: their positions because they tried the same trick.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work.
Speaker 2: It never works, it never will, no matter how good
Speaker 2: a performer they think you are. Now there's a huge
Speaker 2: news story coming out of the States in the past
Speaker 2: in the next couple of days, and nothing to do
Speaker 2: with politics. There is a massive hurricane which is making
Speaker 2: its way towards Florida. Now Category one lowest level, Category five,
Speaker 2: highest level.
Speaker 1: This is category five.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is mega, This is hardcore. This is going
Speaker 2: to kill people. Okay, a hurricane that was around last
Speaker 2: week has already killed about a couple of hundred people,
Speaker 2: and Florida is a place that's used to this stuff,
Speaker 2: but nothing as serious and as big as this. In fact,
Speaker 2: this is what the mayors are saying to people to
Speaker 2: make sure that they get out of dodge.
Speaker 8: And say, without any dramatization whatsoever, if you choose to
Speaker 8: stay in what are those evacuation areas you're.
Speaker 1: Going to die now.
Speaker 2: To give you an idea of what is about to
Speaker 2: take place, The expectation is that the water levels that
Speaker 2: are going to end up being brought in from the sea,
Speaker 2: that the storm surge is not going to be three feet,
Speaker 2: it's not going to be six, it's not going to
Speaker 2: be nine. It could end up eleven or maybe fifteen feet.
Speaker 2: Now we know that's big, but to actually see it
Speaker 2: before it happens is frightening.
Speaker 9: At three feet above normally dry ground water is already
Speaker 9: life threatening. It's too late to evacuate. Whatter this high
Speaker 9: can knock you off your feet, make cars float and
Speaker 9: driving impossible. The first floor of homes and businesses are flooded. Unfortunately,
Speaker 9: the water is expected to rise even higher at six
Speaker 9: feet above the height of most people. Vehicles get carried away,
Speaker 9: structure starts to fail.
Speaker 5: Just look at this.
Speaker 9: Anything could be in this water, sharp glass, three chemicals
Speaker 9: as well. The scary part is some areas could see
Speaker 9: served values at ten to fifteen feet, and this takes
Speaker 9: us up to nine. And look what it does at
Speaker 9: this level. The first floors of structures are completely flooded
Speaker 9: and there are a few places to a seat when
Speaker 9: the water rises this high.
Speaker 2: Now that's the American version of the Weather Channel. The
Speaker 2: sky News Weather Channel will be covering this in full
Speaker 2: detail tomorrow because about middle of the day tomorrow is
Speaker 2: when the expectation is that something is going to be
Speaker 2: taking place, which will be Wednesday in the United States,
Speaker 2: if not twenty four hours later. But keep an eye
Speaker 2: on channel six ZH one, which of course is the
Speaker 2: Weather Channel. Now, speaking of the back and forth that
Speaker 2: is around all of this, Kamala Harris, who of course
Speaker 2: has played no role in the emergency services because nobody says,
Speaker 2: get me the vice president, You say, get me the
Speaker 2: president when there is a hurricane, is of course running
Speaker 2: for president and trying to pretend that somehow she has
Speaker 2: some role here. Now people are very busy. You could
Speaker 2: see what the mistakes are. So when she's trying to
Speaker 2: pick a fight with the Florida Governor, Ron de Santis,
Speaker 2: I'm completely with the Florida governor who's telling her to
Speaker 2: go jump first, Harris trying to turn this into a
Speaker 2: blame the Republican story. You know, moments of crisis, if.
Speaker 10: Nothing else, should really be the moment that anyone who
Speaker 10: pass themselves a leader says they're going to put politics
Speaker 10: aside as.
Speaker 11: The people first.
Speaker 6: Pop aren't desperate need to support right now, and playing
Speaker 6: political games in this moment, in these priceless situations.
Speaker 9: These as the height of emergency.
Speaker 4: Situations, is just utterly irretonssible, and.
Speaker 9: It is selfish, and it is.
Speaker 6: About political gamesmanship. Is that of doing the job that
Speaker 6: you've something else to do, which is to put.
Speaker 2: The people for now, I'll be honest, pretty low right now.
Speaker 2: She does not have an actual role in all of this.
Speaker 2: The vice president is there to be the tiebreaker in
Speaker 2: the Senate, to be the backup should the president die
Speaker 2: before our eyes, which I think we have seen when
Speaker 2: it comes to this presonent, but then imagically kind of
Speaker 2: back to life and apparently is still in charge.
Speaker 1: So she's just a distraction.
Speaker 2: She ends up ringing Ronda Santis, and let's be honest,
Speaker 2: probably two rings, and quickly hung up so she could
Speaker 2: say that she rached out, but Rond de Santis was
Speaker 2: busy didn't answer his response.
Speaker 12: She has never called on any of the storms we've
Speaker 12: had since she's been vice president until apparently now, why
Speaker 12: all of a sudden is she trying to parachute in
Speaker 12: and inject herself when she's never shown any interest in
Speaker 12: the past. We know it's because of politics. We know
Speaker 12: it's because of her campaign. I have zero time to
Speaker 12: entertain these political games. We're going to continue to do
Speaker 12: what we need to do to prepare and respond to
Speaker 12: what may be one of the most damaging storms in
Speaker 12: the history of the United States. So she says, focusing
Speaker 12: on protecting your people.
Speaker 1: This selfish.
Speaker 12: I think she ought to look in the.
Speaker 2: Mirror middle stump like, honestly, she's not involved. She's ringing
Speaker 2: in order to have the fight, trying to turn a
Speaker 2: very red state into potentially a blue state because maybe
Speaker 2: some red voters won't be able to vote because literally
Speaker 2: their houses have been blown away.
Speaker 1: What a piece of work.
Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, while she's trying to pretend, oh,
Speaker 2: playing politics, and we can't possibly play politics, and it's
Speaker 2: really difficult and important time, while Floridians are preparing for
Speaker 2: a storm that we understand is expected to kill people.
Speaker 2: Did she cancel all of her events head to the
Speaker 2: situation room? Did she go to Florida herself? No, she
Speaker 2: went on a TV show, one of many today in
Speaker 2: New York City, she showed that this is what she's
Speaker 2: doing while other people are boarding up and leaving their houses.
Speaker 2: If a Republican did this, it'd be game over.
Speaker 5: As for Miller, Hilight, I'm just curious.
Speaker 6: Okay, the last time I had beer was at a
Speaker 6: baseball game with Dougs.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's like the beautiful city of Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: There you go, So that covers Wisconsin. What a fake?
Speaker 2: Firstly, it reminds me of when I went to the
Speaker 2: baseball with my husband.
Speaker 1: Really, but more importantly.
Speaker 2: Twenty four hours ago, she's prancing around pretending that that
Speaker 2: Ron de Santis is putting politics above country, and when
Speaker 2: people are literally fleeing their homes because of what you've
Speaker 2: just seen about how the water is going to be
Speaker 2: take all their property with it, all their photos with it,
Speaker 2: all their memories with it, and all of the other
Speaker 2: things are going to be destroyed, she doesn't cancel the
Speaker 2: appearance with the TV. No, No, she's got to do that.
Speaker 2: When the reality was, if she was actually feeding her
Speaker 2: about it, she'd say, I'll do that next week. In
Speaker 2: the meantime, I'll go to somewhere where I can maybe
Speaker 2: help somewhere, which, in my view, is to just go away,
Speaker 2: but we have to wait about a month for that
Speaker 2: to happen.
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Speaker 2: now now always here to help with Stephen Conroy and
Speaker 2: wow has he got something to talk about tonight with
Speaker 2: the NBN and fathom of payment and the carryover champ
Speaker 2: as always is the.
Speaker 1: Lovely bronmin Bishop.
Speaker 2: Hello love you so can we just very quickly start
Speaker 2: on the payment thing right? Because why is it that
Speaker 2: a person whose vote is never essentially going to block
Speaker 2: what the government wants to do, who starts a political
Speaker 2: party because she can. She's sitting MP, who's never going
Speaker 2: to be able to produce a quota to get into
Speaker 2: the Parliament, let alone lower House seats because the preferences
Speaker 2: of labor would be required and or the Libs would
Speaker 2: be required, and both obviously are not going to.
Speaker 1: Play that game.
Speaker 2: Why does the media give her the full six pm
Speaker 2: news treatment yet Jared Rennick, who again was in a
Speaker 2: position to do exactly the same thing, leave the party
Speaker 2: who brought him, launch his own party, no coverage.
Speaker 1: Geez, I wonder what it might be.
Speaker 2: But brommin, why are these two senators being treated differently?
Speaker 8: Because she was a dypick DEI pick, she wasn't expected
Speaker 8: to win. She was supposed to be the token on.
Speaker 2: Ticket, which she said herself and about how she felt
Speaker 2: in the.
Speaker 8: Party and flipped it in. She actually has won the lottery,
Speaker 8: she said, for six years, your squallions of dollars, the
Speaker 8: vote whisperer, the preference whisperers come along and whispered in
Speaker 8: her ear, or we can make you great, and so
Speaker 8: hence the name of the party, hence the attention today,
Speaker 8: and really does anybody care?
Speaker 1: No, they don't.
Speaker 2: But Stephen again, right now, your position is, hey, sorry,
Speaker 2: here's the deal. You came with our team. If you
Speaker 2: don't want to be a part of our team, bugger off.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what. It takes a set of
Speaker 2: stones when you've been active in politics for just five
Speaker 2: years to say the Liberal and Labor Party has lost
Speaker 2: its way, when she's only been a senator for less than,
Speaker 2: you know, a couple of years.
Speaker 1: But let's get to the bigger.
Speaker 2: Question, right, rather than just the you know, go her,
Speaker 2: you know labor rat stuff. Right, why does the media
Speaker 2: treat her invention of a party with multiple days and
Speaker 2: press conferences? Then again, Rennick, same part, same thing that
Speaker 2: happened in this parliament.
Speaker 11: Look, if I was being kind, I don't think the
Speaker 11: comparison with Rennick quite works. He quit formed his own
Speaker 11: party because he got rolled in pre selection. She quit
Speaker 11: allegedly on a matter of conscience. Whereas an apologies to you, Paul,
Speaker 11: she's a labor rat who should give a seatback and
Speaker 11: actually get out of parliament and stop being a coward
Speaker 11: and run on whatever her values are and we expect
Speaker 11: there to be a lot of scrutiny, a lot of questions.
Speaker 11: So the sort of pathetic press conference today, the even
Speaker 11: more pathetic seven point thirty report interview tonight exposes what
Speaker 11: a complete and us a coward.
Speaker 2: She is correct, right, but again and this is part
Speaker 2: of what she had to say today, which is basically
Speaker 2: look again, right, this is sort of party in name only,
Speaker 2: no membership, no policy, no idea. And I noticed on
Speaker 2: the front page of the OS tomorrow she's coppying it
Speaker 2: from some of the people pushing the voice, because of
Speaker 2: course she's naming the party Australia's Voice, which I think
Speaker 2: was rejected by the people of Western Australia.
Speaker 1: But have a look, what's the purpose of the party?
Speaker 6: Great, qush Tom. We're obviously launching the party today. The
Speaker 6: policy platform will come in time and I'm very excited
Speaker 6: to publicly announce them in due course.
Speaker 2: See, I just it's the game of it, Bromwin, It's
Speaker 2: the game, right. She doesn't have to have anything she
Speaker 2: considers an independent.
Speaker 8: She doesn't have to have a thought in the head.
Speaker 8: The bottom line is Senator Renick, he'll be gone after
Speaker 8: the next election. Where she's there till the election after
Speaker 8: this one, just like she's going to be sitting there
Speaker 8: as a vote, and heaven knows which way the Senate plays.
Speaker 1: I'll give you the tip.
Speaker 2: She'll always vote against the Libs, quite right. Whatever happens
Speaker 2: to be, be in opposition to or government, minority and
Speaker 2: majority in any form, she'll vote against them. Okay, Now, Stephen,
Speaker 2: the National Broadband Network, Okay, I happen to remember some
Speaker 2: spirited discussions at the time, when you remember of the
Speaker 2: Australian government. I was a little skeptical about whether this
Speaker 2: was the right thing to do.
Speaker 11: You know there was and now you know, now you
Speaker 11: know you were wrong. Now you know you're wrong. So
Speaker 11: I'm happy to know that.
Speaker 2: I just think we probably should have done a little
Speaker 2: bit more Wi Fi work rather than just the cable
Speaker 2: going to everyone's house.
Speaker 1: But okay, okay, I understand, all right, however.
Speaker 11: WI is table, Wi Fi is on cable coming off.
Speaker 8: Dick up my garden and my driveway to try and
Speaker 8: put that in, I've got.
Speaker 11: We wouldn't want we wouldn't want to damage your roses.
Speaker 11: We would here.
Speaker 2: Let me get to with this, all right, So, Stephen,
Speaker 2: I remember that one of the reasons why the NBN
Speaker 2: was a wonderful thing to build was because it was
Speaker 2: then an asset that potentially the government could sell. At
Speaker 2: one point in time, I have been sent and press
Speaker 2: releases put out by the then Communications Minister saying quote,
Speaker 2: Government committed to the sale of nbyan co. Today the
Speaker 2: Prime Minister rolls into the Parliament and says, we will
Speaker 2: pass the law not to sell what no one was
Speaker 2: planning to sell. What do you think of them passing
Speaker 2: the law to reverse the original idea of building the
Speaker 2: bloody theme.
Speaker 11: Well, look, I'm familiar with what goes on in the
Speaker 11: background of the telecommunication sector. That'll come as a surprise
Speaker 11: to you, Paul. But there are, believe it or not,
Speaker 11: a bunch of companies out there you can name your
Speaker 11: own names at this point who would prefer to buy
Speaker 11: the NBN so they can recreate the sort of monopoly.
Speaker 11: But didn't you want to sell perhaps had in the past,
Speaker 11: Now we would look at it. I'm very happy and
Speaker 11: very excited that we are now opposing it. Okay, where
Speaker 11: I am I am happy to put my hand up
Speaker 11: and say categorically I am happy with this announcement. Absolutely,
Speaker 11: one hundred and fifty percent happy that we've decided to
Speaker 11: lock it in so that unfortunately the person you voted
Speaker 11: to make Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, completely and utterly stuffed
Speaker 11: the NBN plenty of stuff. That's Malcolm Turnbull. Malcolm Turnbull
Speaker 11: was wrong and every over the thing he did. But
Speaker 11: according to Win and let me do.
Speaker 1: Got right. Let me do a little bit of follow
Speaker 1: up here.
Speaker 2: All right again, I am looking at a press release
Speaker 2: that has been said to me.
Speaker 1: Now, if it's Ai, please tell me. I don't know the.
Speaker 2: Date government committed to the sale of nby inco.
Speaker 1: I could read it.
Speaker 2: Back to you, but I love you and I'm not
Speaker 2: going to. So the position has changed. What I mean
Speaker 2: you you were committed to the Sun Now you love
Speaker 2: the idea that.
Speaker 1: That that it's not being sold.
Speaker 11: Well, I think Malcolm Turnbull ever, irretrievably broke it for
Speaker 11: the next handed.
Speaker 2: Over fore and he turned it into a feat I
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying.
Speaker 8: There's another right here, the government. This is the government.
Speaker 8: It says it's not going to sell something that was
Speaker 8: never going to be sold. But it's perfectly happy that
Speaker 8: the generators of the liberals of electricity could be sold
Speaker 8: so that they could get along with the government and
Speaker 8: have oligopoly.
Speaker 2: But you can't. You can't from.
Speaker 8: The idea that the Liberal Party is going to build
Speaker 8: new power stations of the government will own them.
Speaker 2: Because I love Steve and I'm not reading from this
Speaker 2: press release, but jeez.
Speaker 1: I'm fighting.
Speaker 2: I'm fighting all my TV instincts to go for the kill.
Speaker 1: But I like him. I like him, and if he
Speaker 1: was still part.
Speaker 2: Of the Senate, I'll give you the tip gloves off,
Speaker 2: still boots on, because he's part of our family.
Speaker 1: Will move on, all right.
Speaker 11: I'm just here to help help and our mate.
Speaker 1: And how all right?
Speaker 2: So Prime Minister gave an interview today to my mate
Speaker 2: here and Gilbert and look, a lot of people understandably
Speaker 2: have had plenty to say about the positions on us Israel.
Speaker 2: Let's get to something else here, right, which is what
Speaker 2: happens after the next election. Labor MP is apparently told
Speaker 2: by the Prime Minister, but forgive all this minority business.
Speaker 1: We're not just going to win.
Speaker 2: We're going to keep our majority, potentially grow our majority.
Speaker 1: But if we happen to.
Speaker 2: Fall a couple of seats short, no deals with the Greens.
Speaker 2: Of course this is said again in interviews, But of
Speaker 2: course the deals aren't assigned deals. The deals us the
Speaker 2: promise to have supply and also to make sure that
Speaker 2: you wouldn't get rolled on a no confidence motion.
Speaker 1: But again, is the.
Speaker 10: Being absolutely I ruled that out. I'm the only candidate
Speaker 10: for prime minister seeking a government in our own right,
Speaker 10: and there'll be no deals with the Greens. I want
Speaker 10: a majority Labor government and the best way that that
Speaker 10: can be achieved is by people voting Labor in the
Speaker 10: election when it's held.
Speaker 2: Is as Ricky Gervais would say, is he having a laugh?
Speaker 1: Is he having a laugh?
Speaker 2: The concept of the concept of a majority government being
Speaker 2: the aim, the.
Speaker 8: Concept of him being in a parliamentary system and saying
Speaker 8: I am the only leader who is looking for an
Speaker 8: absolute majority.
Speaker 1: Make what Greens are?
Speaker 8: Excuse me, this is the name of the game. You
Speaker 8: also needing a party that you want to win and
Speaker 8: be the prime minister?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Correct, imagine I hear my declare three seats is our dream?
Speaker 1: Three?
Speaker 8: I think he's been taking lessons from Kamala. I'm just
Speaker 8: about the only thing missing from that interview was I
Speaker 8: grew up in a House and Commission House and I had.
Speaker 2: A tough time and we loved our lawn absolutely. But again,
Speaker 2: Stephen right, all the data right now that basically shows
Speaker 2: if the Labor Party falls from where it was at
Speaker 2: the last election by one two points, then its capacity
Speaker 2: to hold on to the seventy eighth, the seventy seventh
Speaker 2: and the seventy sixth seat that they currently own mathematically
Speaker 2: falls away. Yet the Prime Minister says, despite the fact
Speaker 2: that every statistical indication is that they have not grown
Speaker 2: since the last election in terms of where they sit today,
Speaker 2: is he just you know, know, reving up the troops
Speaker 2: going into the fourth quarter of a losing Grand final.
Speaker 1: What's going on here?
Speaker 11: Well, we'll just give you the alternative speech in the
Speaker 11: Liberal Coalition party room where Peter Dutton didn't walk in.
Speaker 1: So we've got the jersey on.
Speaker 11: We can't win, but where are we are? We're just
Speaker 11: going to give it a red hot, but.
Speaker 1: We know we can't win. Press.
Speaker 11: All leaders have to tell their parliamentary parties days like
Speaker 11: today in their caucus and party room meetings they're going
Speaker 11: to win their own right. That is just it's like mandatory.
Speaker 11: If you say anything else, you know the story Albo
Speaker 11: shows you can't win. So everyone has to say that
Speaker 11: in terms of the most important message. And I think
Speaker 11: it's seared in Albow's memory because we were in cabinet
Speaker 11: together when this happens. The decision to hold a press
Speaker 11: conference there in the courtyard piece of paper sign a
Speaker 11: deal with Bob Brown was a disastrously bad one for
Speaker 11: the Gillard governments.
Speaker 1: So we'll just have one. It'll be hostage.
Speaker 11: No, no, it's a question of the governor General. Requires
Speaker 11: you to be able to demonstrate party that you have
Speaker 11: confidence and then you just horse trade. No difference to
Speaker 11: horse trading in the Senate. What we had to horse
Speaker 11: trade rubbish. The House of represented twenty ten and twenty.
Speaker 11: I don't know.
Speaker 8: The people in the House who don't even get elected
Speaker 8: unless they get the preferences from the Greens, and the
Speaker 8: question is asked, they are such vile people that they
Speaker 8: should go last on your ticket.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, I'm with you there. Thank you, guys. We're
Speaker 2: out of time. We'll do it in next week. That
Speaker 2: was fun, Steven, check your phone. I sent an old
Speaker 2: press release. All right, quick breakback.
Speaker 1: We're more. Meghan Kelly next, our favorite person.
Speaker 2: Who talk to her in the world is not on
Speaker 2: the Wonderful Meghan Kelly, and there's so much to talk
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Speaker 2: YouTube or podcast Rockstar.
Speaker 1: Nice to talk to You.
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris has discovered that it's okay to do interviews now.
Speaker 2: Most of them are incredibly soft. Some of them are
Speaker 2: kind of soft. But I want to ask before we
Speaker 2: get into the view in sixty minutes and Howard Stern
Speaker 2: and Colbert.
Speaker 1: Why is she doing this now? I thought she was winning.
Speaker 5: Clearly, there's been some bad news in the internal polling.
Speaker 5: And while today there was a New York Times Siena
Speaker 5: Paul that showed her three points up in the national
Speaker 5: vote over Donald Trump, that's only anecdotal. What she needs
Speaker 5: to do is get up above him by some significant
Speaker 5: margin in the swing states, and it just isn't happening.
Speaker 5: And just as that New York Times Sienna Pole hits,
Speaker 5: another yugav Pole hit as well saying that Trump is up.
Speaker 5: So what it tells me is that something told her
Speaker 5: in the internal polling it's not going well and she
Speaker 5: needed a strategy shift. Otherwise she would not be changing
Speaker 5: strategy with thirty days to go until the election. You
Speaker 5: only do that if you expect to lose.
Speaker 3: So she has.
Speaker 5: Seen something that we haven't seen that probably is rather
Speaker 5: dramatic because they are taking a huge risk putting her
Speaker 5: out and also her buddy, Governor Pinocchio, who can't go
Speaker 5: two minutes without telling another lie. So we'll see whether
Speaker 5: it changes her numbers at all. But it's really late
Speaker 5: in the game to be making this biggest shift.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's also, as you know, a couple of stipe
Speaker 2: poles that have popped up tonight, which is starting to
Speaker 2: show Trump in front in the places that are considered
Speaker 2: to be the absolute mast beginning of the ween Blue
Speaker 2: Wolf sites of Michigan, Wold, Wisconsin, and in Pennsylvania. Now
Speaker 2: about the actual interviews, I heard what you had to
Speaker 2: say today that the sixty minutes conversation was the more
Speaker 2: polite of the conversations that sixty minutes would normally have
Speaker 2: with a political candidate. But at the very least there
Speaker 2: was some pushback, and even then she fumbles the ball.
Speaker 5: I mean, I give Bill Whittaker credit for at least
Speaker 5: trying on immigration, but net he wound up the thinnest
Speaker 5: kid at fat camp like, it's not a really great accomplishment.
Speaker 5: He that was it. That's really He pressed her on
Speaker 5: the economy a little, and he pressed her legitimately on
Speaker 5: immigration so good, and on every other exchange. He fell
Speaker 5: down on the job. I mean, he had questions, like
Speaker 5: you say, based on the following three or four things
Speaker 5: that Trump is a racist go on?
Speaker 1: It was like, what.
Speaker 5: It was so obvious, right? And then in the sixty
Speaker 5: minutes extra, which is the outtakes that didn't and just
Speaker 5: some of them, not all of them, God forbid they
Speaker 5: show us the whole thing because she'd looked like a
Speaker 5: drooling mess. They of course cleaned up her transcript, but
Speaker 5: in some of the outtakes that they posted, he does
Speaker 5: get into the coup right that Joe Biden went down
Speaker 5: and she was elevated and she took over this role.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, great, this is where he's going to
Speaker 5: ask her about the fact that this a has been
Speaker 5: utterly undemocratic and b resulted after she lied to us
Speaker 5: all for years about his mental acuity. What did she know?
Speaker 5: When did she know it? Why did she look us
Speaker 5: in the eye and tell us that he was absolutely
Speaker 5: fine when we both have her on the record now
Speaker 5: and him on the record saying they made every decision together,
Speaker 5: They did every law together. She was an integral part
Speaker 5: of all of the big administration decisions, so she.
Speaker 8: Was with him.
Speaker 5: She was with him a lot, so she would have seen. Nope,
Speaker 5: it wasn't asked, he didn't touch on it. All he
Speaker 5: asked was, well, do you think that's why people feel
Speaker 5: like they don't know you because there wasn't a more
Speaker 5: robust process behind your elevation? Oh what a fail. And
Speaker 5: it was just time and time again where she started
Speaker 5: giving answers like she was at a deposition. Now, I'm
Speaker 5: a lawyer. She's a lawyer, and these answers to me
Speaker 5: at first sounded normal because I spent ten years taking
Speaker 5: depositions and doing cross examinations. And when someone says I'm
Speaker 5: not going to answer as a hypothetical, that's a totally normal,
Speaker 5: common answer. In a deposition where you're across from an
Speaker 5: adversary who hates you and is suing you or your client,
Speaker 5: this is not a deposition. It is an interview in
Speaker 5: which she is asking us on whose behalf the questioner
Speaker 5: is there to hire her for the most important job
Speaker 5: in the world.
Speaker 1: I won't answer.
Speaker 5: A hypothetical is an absurd answer, and you know where
Speaker 5: she invoked it every single time. It was foreign policy,
Speaker 5: because she's a no nothing. She didn't know what to
Speaker 5: say when he asked her about China. When he asked
Speaker 5: her about Ukraine, she didn't. She danced, danced and danced.
Speaker 5: She didn't know what to say. When he asked her
Speaker 5: about Israel. She like every major conflict, she seemed completely
Speaker 5: flat footed and a little clueless, like she was waiting
Speaker 5: for someone in her special little EarPods to give her
Speaker 5: the answer. I realized this is an internet conspiracy theory,
Speaker 5: but it's kind of a fun one. And the answer
Speaker 5: didn't come, so she just went with hypothetical. Not gonna
Speaker 5: answer hypothetical. Well, guess what, we're entitled to the answer,
Speaker 5: she didn't give it. We used to ask that question
Speaker 5: all the time at presidential debates. Totally fair game. She
Speaker 5: didn't answer because she can't.
Speaker 2: By the way, if you want to know anyone, then
Speaker 2: Megan Kittley has ever done a deposition on They're currently
Speaker 2: still in the fatal position and crying in fifty states
Speaker 2: that you can find them all now on some of
Speaker 2: the softest stuff ro I'll tell you quick.
Speaker 1: Story, Paul. Sorry.
Speaker 5: And I was taking my depositions, and it would nine
Speaker 5: times out of ten to be a man I was
Speaker 5: opposed from opposing council, and they would start to get aggravated,
Speaker 5: you know, whatever I was doing, whether I was doing
Speaker 5: the questioning or whether I was doing the defending. And
Speaker 5: instead of getting progressively upset like I would when I
Speaker 5: was a very young atter, when I got older, I
Speaker 5: learned to go the other way and to get calmer,
Speaker 5: and to look at these guys and just say, you
Speaker 5: see him upset. Do you need a break? Do you
Speaker 5: need to step outside? Come back after you've collected yourself.
Speaker 5: It was so fun is to drive them insane?
Speaker 3: I missed that.
Speaker 2: Just turn into the ice the ice cold steamroller.
Speaker 1: Fantastic, fantastic.
Speaker 2: Now on some of the softer interviews, now we know
Speaker 2: why all of this is there. It's for her to
Speaker 2: seem more likable than she actually is. It's not about
Speaker 2: an intelligence test. But she even then stuffs it up.
Speaker 2: On the view she's asked by the most left wing host,
Speaker 2: is there anything you would do different than Joe Biden's
Speaker 2: done in the past four years? Her answer no, So
Speaker 2: now she doubles down, and she owns every mistake and
Speaker 2: the very reason why people wanted to punt him by
Speaker 2: ten points.
Speaker 5: Her campaign slogan is we can't go back. That's her
Speaker 5: whole campaign slogan, we can't go back. And the reason
Speaker 5: The New York Times reported today that it showed her
Speaker 5: making a little bit of headway on its poll, which
Speaker 5: a month ago had Trump up one but now has
Speaker 5: her up three. So it's a four point swing in
Speaker 5: her favor is because the voters are trying to see
Speaker 5: starting to see her as the change candidate, as.
Speaker 3: The one who will bring real change to.
Speaker 5: The policies of the past few years.
Speaker 8: What does she do?
Speaker 5: She goes out and says, I'm exactly like Joe Biden.
Speaker 5: Everything he did I was a part of my blessed
Speaker 5: I worked on. Yes, I see no difference between us
Speaker 5: other than his name is Joe Biden and mine isn't.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's really how she answered the question. You
Speaker 5: almost have to feel for her campaign staff, which is
Speaker 5: in the back room going like, oh my god, does
Speaker 5: anyone have any bourbon? And then of course they're like,
Speaker 5: it's in Comma's purse. It's right over there.
Speaker 1: The Ultimate Big and kille Chat. Thank you Mitt.
Speaker 5: Great to see your policy next week.
Speaker 10: Didn't keep