WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 9 October

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<v Speaker 1>From the sky in Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much for watching Happy Wednesday. Lots to

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<v Speaker 2>get to this evening again. Congratulations to Sharry and her team.

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<v Speaker 2>They are excellent shows. There'll be another one the same

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<v Speaker 2>time tomorrow nights. Now, let's get straight to this cost

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<v Speaker 2>of leaving number one issue in the country. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the great concerns every parent or grandparent has is the

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<v Speaker 2>kid going to be able to buy.

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<v Speaker 1>A house one day?

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<v Speaker 2>Did they talk about that today in Canberra? Pardon me, no,

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<v Speaker 2>they did not. Instead, the federal government decided to waste

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<v Speaker 2>our parliament's time by passing a law to guarantee that

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<v Speaker 2>they won't sell the National Broadband Network. Now, you, of

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<v Speaker 2>course have already spend tens of billions of dollars putting

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<v Speaker 2>together a network that, yes, has absolutely improved the Internet

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<v Speaker 2>capabilities of the country, but no.

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<v Speaker 1>One was planning to sell it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like passing a piece of legislation to guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>we call Tuesday's Tuesday. This was nothing but a distraction,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing but a waste of time, and nothing but an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity for the Prime Minister to somehow be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>something other than the multiple messes that he has created,

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<v Speaker 2>presided over and made worse.

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<v Speaker 3>We've introduced legislation into the House today that safeguards the

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<v Speaker 3>future of the NBN, making sure it can't be private eyes,

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<v Speaker 3>sold off or hollowed out because there's never been a

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<v Speaker 3>public service or asset that the Liberal Party didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to carve up and sell off.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what they.

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<v Speaker 1>Do again, what who where? What?

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<v Speaker 2>Policy like this is sort of MENI skip a pre

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<v Speaker 2>medi scare campaign and again who amongst us is so

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<v Speaker 2>particularly nervous about the ownership structure of the National Broadband Network.

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<v Speaker 2>Of all of the issues for our parliament to be

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<v Speaker 2>focused on today, this is what they decided to be

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<v Speaker 2>focused on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a tremendous waste of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Conroy is of course the man who made it

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<v Speaker 2>all happen, that being the NBN. He's on the show

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<v Speaker 2>with Brohmin Bishop tonight we will discuss that. For their

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<v Speaker 2>point the opposition, well they called it out for what

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<v Speaker 2>it is, a total waste of everyone's time today.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an attempt to distract from the catastrophic failures from

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<v Speaker 4>this government.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Interestingly, there was also a lounder little bit of slight

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<v Speaker 2>of hand that took place today, which is the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister wanted to turn up on the six pm news,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly after the disgraceful slur that took place yesterday, when

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<v Speaker 2>of course he was accusing members of the opposition of

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<v Speaker 2>having turets, as if it was some sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>A put down.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, all of this fake legislation, and I say fake

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<v Speaker 2>legislation and that who is calling for it?

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<v Speaker 1>Who is what's the penalty? It's just rubbish.

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<v Speaker 2>Also happened after Question Time was moved from two pm

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<v Speaker 2>this afternoon to nine o'clock this morning. Now the reason

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<v Speaker 2>is because at the Ovenez he wanted to appear on

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<v Speaker 2>the six pm news tonight like he was working all

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<v Speaker 2>day in Cambada day.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>You see, he's off to the Asian Conference, the very important,

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<v Speaker 2>very very desperately important, a meeting of Asian leaders discussing this,

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<v Speaker 2>that and the other. So the reality is Airbus Lbow

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<v Speaker 2>is up in the air again and he fiddled with

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<v Speaker 2>the parliamentary calendar today to make it look like he

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<v Speaker 2>was working when really he was kicking back on TOTO one.

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<v Speaker 2>Immigration is too high in Australia because it has major

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<v Speaker 2>impacts on all sorts of things. But put simply too

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<v Speaker 2>many people when there are too few houses is a

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<v Speaker 2>relentless theme that I go back to, because well, we

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<v Speaker 2>all know what the consequences are of too few places

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<v Speaker 2>to rent and not enough places to buy, too many

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<v Speaker 2>people trying to compete for either, which means the price

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<v Speaker 2>for all of it keeps going up.

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<v Speaker 1>Up, up up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, today, our dear friends at the Australian Bureau Statistics,

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<v Speaker 2>that far right wing organization, gave us an insight into

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<v Speaker 2>again the giant gulf between the number of people that

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<v Speaker 2>are coming into the country and the new homes or

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<v Speaker 2>units that are being built to house the existing population,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone the new one. Now the unsexy headline is

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<v Speaker 2>building activity Australia. The sexy headline is the one that

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<v Speaker 2>Channel nine threw in, which was the bleak truth about

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<v Speaker 2>Australia's housing shortage as new build numbers hits a ten

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<v Speaker 2>year low. Now that is all true. I'll go into

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<v Speaker 2>some detail in a moment and show you some graphs.

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<v Speaker 2>But remember when I talk about all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>In just two.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the almost three years of this government, almost a

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<v Speaker 2>million people have been brought into the country. Now we

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<v Speaker 2>learned today that what only about ten thousand were sort

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<v Speaker 2>of mechanical focused people. The rest, of course students, the

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<v Speaker 2>rest family reunion where mum's too old and the kids

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<v Speaker 2>are too young to work, but they all need somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>to live. Nine hundred and sixty four thousand, two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>people in the past two years added to the existing

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five and a bit twenty six now well total

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven million people, who of course are looking for

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<v Speaker 2>a roof over their head as well. Now let me

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<v Speaker 2>break this down for you. There are lots of ways

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<v Speaker 2>of looking at this, but let's do it this way.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want you to compare June twenty and sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>to the current year and the latest numbers we got,

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<v Speaker 2>which was June for twenty twenty four So building a house, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty sixteen, twenty nine thou seven hundred and ninety

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<v Speaker 2>houses were built. Other residential basically units twenty five, nine

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty nine. How does that look today? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>houses twenty five thousand, that's down four thousand, but the

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<v Speaker 2>number of units is down twelve thousand compared to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Time last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this is the buildings that are being commenced. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so everything that's started, there are fewer houses being built.

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<v Speaker 2>There are fewer units being built. Again, to give you

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<v Speaker 2>an idea of this, in the ten year cycle, you

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<v Speaker 2>can see that the graphs, well, the top one is

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<v Speaker 2>for houses, the other one is for other residential. You

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<v Speaker 2>can see it ain't a pretty picture in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the homes that have actually been completed. Okay, the completed

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<v Speaker 2>numbers again, Let's go back to twenty and sixteen, twenty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred and ninety houses had been finished rather at

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<v Speaker 2>this point in time, and the units that had been

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<v Speaker 2>completed was twenty one hundred and eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you reckon it is today?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a ten year low because houses are down two

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<v Speaker 2>and a half thousand, and the number of other residential

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<v Speaker 2>that is being completed right now is nine and a

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<v Speaker 2>half thousand. So when you look at the total number

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<v Speaker 2>that have been completed is way down and the total

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<v Speaker 2>amount that is being started is even lower, it means

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<v Speaker 2>even fewer new homes, houses, units, villas, townhouses, granny flats.

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<v Speaker 1>Or places for people to live.

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<v Speaker 2>When the population is the highest that it has ever

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<v Speaker 2>been and more than a million people have been added

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<v Speaker 2>to that particular problem in the past twelve months. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>but we're going to guarantee no one's going to sell

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<v Speaker 2>the NBN and it'll look like question time didn't happen

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how stupid they think people are.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're not. We're on their tail and these numbers matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you may well have noticed.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a massive seismic important event in Camber to

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<v Speaker 2>day that had them just jumping off their chairs.

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<v Speaker 5>And Senator Fatima Payman has launched a new political party.

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<v Speaker 6>A Men's Handling of the conflict in Gaza spur Wa.

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<v Speaker 6>Senator Fatima payment To quit the Labor Party in after

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<v Speaker 6>and everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Today she announced her very own.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't care because she's not going to win

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<v Speaker 2>a seat anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll explain that in the moment or two his time.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course the press conference was carried live, dutifully

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<v Speaker 2>reported over and over and over and over and over again,

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<v Speaker 2>as if her vote in the Senate matters, she'll always

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<v Speaker 2>vote with the party who brung her Labor or the people.

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<v Speaker 2>She's going to try to sit somewhere magically between, like

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<v Speaker 2>sort of some sort of goldielocks, just right where she's

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<v Speaker 2>not as left as the Greens, but she's not as

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<v Speaker 2>right wing as Labor, and that's sort of the Goldilocks position.

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<v Speaker 1>She turns around and says this today again dutifully. All

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<v Speaker 1>the media, it's very big news. Are you covering this?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you covering it?

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<v Speaker 6>Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly,

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<v Speaker 6>a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag

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<v Speaker 6>the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what

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<v Speaker 6>needs to be done, we will do it. There are

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<v Speaker 6>some people who are so frightened to put a foot forward,

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<v Speaker 6>to put a foot wrong, that they won't put a

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<v Speaker 6>foot forward. This comment was made in nineteen eighty five

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<v Speaker 6>and apply so much to the current Labor Party, who

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<v Speaker 6>has lost its way.

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares? Who cares?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, she is not the first person in Australian history

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<v Speaker 2>to break up with a major party when she has

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<v Speaker 2>not one, but like one in three quarter terms to

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<v Speaker 2>serve in the Senate. Despite the fact that she will

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<v Speaker 2>get nobody elected anywhere at the next federal election, she

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<v Speaker 2>will still be part of our political conversation, like Lydia

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<v Speaker 2>Thorpe until not this election, but then the one after that. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no doubt that she believes what she believes,

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<v Speaker 2>and she has every right to break away from all

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<v Speaker 2>of that stuff, right, But isn't it amazing how the

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<v Speaker 2>media covers her dissension her new party as if it

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<v Speaker 2>was something magical. If you and I wanted to start

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<v Speaker 2>a political party, you'd need at least five hundred signatures.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are already a member of the Federal Parliament.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what, you don't need any You, as a sitting

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<v Speaker 2>member of Parliament, can just stand up, walk over there

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<v Speaker 2>and tell them what the name of your new party is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you have lots of different examples over many,

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<v Speaker 2>many years of people breaking away from the party that

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<v Speaker 2>brought them sitting there, pretending that they are representing a

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<v Speaker 2>brand new political move, only for it to be flushed

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<v Speaker 2>and become a trivia question because the reality of their

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<v Speaker 2>political power is that Fatima Payman is lucky to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the Senate. I don't say that because she is

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<v Speaker 2>not fit and proper person, not because I don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>the language of the youth or the issues that she's discussing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because literally, she was in a virtually unwinnable position

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<v Speaker 2>on the Labor Party's ticket, but because the Labor Party

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<v Speaker 2>vote was so good in Western Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>She came with the party.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I've got to say, I'm sorry, I just

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a little bit rich that somebody who has

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<v Speaker 2>been actively involved in party politics, as best as I

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<v Speaker 2>can see, for only about five years, is wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>start a movement because they've all lost their way. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>technically speaking, this is only a couple of elections that

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<v Speaker 2>we are talking about here. Now again, Fatima payment, good

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<v Speaker 2>luck to hers. She is twenty nine years of age. That,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, is one year one year older than

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<v Speaker 2>Albo's political career in the Federal Parliament, just so you

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<v Speaker 2>know relative terms, right, She's born one year.

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<v Speaker 1>He's elected the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Fast forward twenty nine years, he's the Prime Minister, dear god,

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<v Speaker 2>and she is now the leader of a brand new

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<v Speaker 2>movement that didn't need a single other person to help

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<v Speaker 2>her create.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I had to look at it bio today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, of course, university university pharmacist, fine electorate officer from

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen. She was then a union worker and then

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<v Speaker 2>of course up and into the parliament. Again, good luck

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<v Speaker 2>to her, But what is it about the media covering

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<v Speaker 2>her split from the Labor Party like, oh goodness me,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to head off to an election.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Also to get a spot in the Senate takes the

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<v Speaker 2>best part of having to generate about fourteen percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the vote. The person who was last on the bandwagon

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<v Speaker 2>of a very long tale in Western Australia, I would suggest,

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<v Speaker 2>is unlikely to be able to produce a quota in

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<v Speaker 2>her own right when she goes for a re election,

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<v Speaker 2>not at this election but the one after. Also the

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<v Speaker 2>suggestion that well that her magical movement will somehow result

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<v Speaker 2>in preference whispering that will get her the last Senate

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<v Speaker 2>spot in every state. Now, this, of course, would only

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<v Speaker 2>be possible if she doesn't just get the preferences of

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<v Speaker 2>the Greens, which you imagine she would, but she'd never

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<v Speaker 2>get the preferences from the Libs who won't give them

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<v Speaker 2>to her, or the Labor Party who won't give them

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<v Speaker 2>to her. And even if the Senate ballot paper is

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<v Speaker 2>a kilometer long, there will not be enough fake options

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<v Speaker 2>on the ballot or trojan horses on the ballot that

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<v Speaker 2>I think will be able to produce what is required

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<v Speaker 2>to actually become a senator. Now, one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>people run for Senate is so you can have a.

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<v Speaker 1>State wide appeal. But to actually get.

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<v Speaker 2>There, you've got to have members that are paid up

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<v Speaker 2>and proud volunteers that are willing to stand and hand

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<v Speaker 2>out how to votes, not just at one polling booth,

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<v Speaker 2>but virtually every polling booth, not just on election day,

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<v Speaker 2>but for the multiple weeks before it. Now, again, good

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<v Speaker 2>luck to her. She has every right under our system,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt. Plenty of people have their issues because she

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<v Speaker 2>was of one party and broke away something else. But

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<v Speaker 2>she ain't the first, she won't be the last. But

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<v Speaker 2>the way the media selectively decides which senators who walk

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<v Speaker 2>away from the party who brung them is rather interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>What is their obsession with covering this lady? Jared Rednick

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<v Speaker 2>is a Liberal senator, or was a Liberal senator until

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<v Speaker 2>he lost pre election and then he left the Liberal Party.

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<v Speaker 2>He too, was able to start his own political party.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there throngs of cameras when he made this announcement?

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<v Speaker 2>Was this in every six pm news bulletin? Could I

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<v Speaker 2>see thought pieces everywhere when it happened?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Firstly, they don't like his politics. But secondly, just like

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<v Speaker 2>the payment situation, with no disrespect to mister Renick has

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<v Speaker 2>always been kind to me, it's not going to have

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<v Speaker 2>a political consequence. It won't happen. Yes, they'll have a

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<v Speaker 2>few thousand people on Twitter that are going to tell

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<v Speaker 2>them you're about to change a world. Man, Well, Claide

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<v Speaker 2>Palmer spent forty million dollars at the last election and

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<v Speaker 2>he was able to get one senator up and otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>two percent of the national vote. Good luck, miss Payment,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're going to need more than just media profile.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to need actual members of your party, actual volunteers,

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<v Speaker 2>actual money, actual policies. Not to mention, probably might need

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<v Speaker 2>to change the name of the party from the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixty percent of Australians voted against, including in Western Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Now as we know, idiot Andrew Giles, the former Immigration Minister,

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<v Speaker 2>is gladly the former Immigration minister because he was terrible

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<v Speaker 2>at his job. But he was a mate of elbows

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<v Speaker 2>and we couldn't get rid of that new government smell,

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<v Speaker 2>so we had to pretend that he was moving into

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<v Speaker 2>something else because.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a reshuffle.

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<v Speaker 2>The same with the Home Affairs Minister CLIs Claire O'Neil,

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<v Speaker 2>who's a great performer and wonder great great performer, great performer.

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<v Speaker 2>That of course is code for somebody who the media likes.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did the media like people?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they get spoken to by these people, both publicly

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<v Speaker 2>and privately.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the way it works.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, both of those people, as we know, shocking way

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<v Speaker 2>that they handled the result of the High Court decision

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<v Speaker 2>where people were let out of detention because one person

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<v Speaker 2>was able to get a court to prove that you

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<v Speaker 2>could now have indefinite attention. So rather than getting every

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<v Speaker 2>single person who have to argue it, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>they all went out and you know there have been

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<v Speaker 2>significant allegations of criminal matters that have followed since.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course it's all a brand new broom now.

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<v Speaker 2>Good performer, great performer, great great performer is Tony Burke.

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<v Speaker 2>He is of course the Arts Minister. Oh yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Home Affairs minister. Sorry he is the Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the Home Affairs minister. Right, he's the guys across all

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<v Speaker 2>of this. He's the immigration man. He's the tough on

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<v Speaker 2>the borders man. While also looking back and going oh

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<v Speaker 2>look at the borderer on that art work, but still

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<v Speaker 2>apparently two things can be true at the same time. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>a question has been raised about somebody who has come

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<v Speaker 2>in from Gaza. They came in urgently via the tourist

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<v Speaker 2>visa system, a system that's been used by multiple governments

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<v Speaker 2>multiple times. But still when we were told that security

0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.800
<v Speaker 2>vetting was right and all the rest of it, the

0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Liberal Party had a rather interesting question today. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>the question time that was done in the morning so

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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't notice the Prime minister had bugged off by

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<v Speaker 2>the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 4>The Albanezy government granted a visa to Fayes el Hassani,

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<v Speaker 4>an individual the openly linked to terrorist organizations HAAMAS and

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<v Speaker 4>Palestinian Islamic g HAD. In two thousand and nineteen, El

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<v Speaker 4>Hassani reportedly hosted a summit of terror organization leaders, which

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<v Speaker 4>he opened by stating, they must quote I quote confront

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<v Speaker 4>the occupation by all possible means. Prime Minister, has the

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<v Speaker 4>visa of this individual been canceled?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty simple question, right, Well, Tony Burt good performer, Good

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<v Speaker 2>performer code for somebody who speaks to the media both

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<v Speaker 2>publicly and privately, future leader, despite the fact that his

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<v Speaker 2>actual support would be single digits and that's probably even

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<v Speaker 2>in his own state. Well, this was his response, and

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<v Speaker 2>you see he responds, and he plays four D chests

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<v Speaker 2>differently than Andrew Giles and Clara O'Neil did. He just

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<v Speaker 2>pretends the question doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 7>At any point we receive advice from our security agencies

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<v Speaker 7>that a visa should be canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what will happen. That is what will happen.

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<v Speaker 7>But this concept that shadow ministers should be the proxies

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<v Speaker 7>for our security agencies is just a bizarre way to operate.

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<v Speaker 7>Our security agencies work through the evidence that they have.

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<v Speaker 7>They never stop collecting information, even after people are here,

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<v Speaker 7>they never stop collecting information. And this government stands with

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<v Speaker 7>full confidence in our security agencies.

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<v Speaker 1>Now again, the people who were annoyed the.

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<v Speaker 2>Good performance good performance have been affected by the failure

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with iss issue in the past. Mostly many

0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.280
<v Speaker 2>of those people in and around the press gallery hate

0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:43.280
<v Speaker 2>watching us right now. The truth is the Tony Burk

0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.040
<v Speaker 2>can't really do that. He can get away with it

0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.399
<v Speaker 2>once or twice. But if this is the standard answer,

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<v Speaker 2>which is, oh, I'm sorry, I'll deal with the security agencies,

0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:52.679
<v Speaker 2>I won't deal with the question that's being asked by

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<v Speaker 2>the opposition, were little only produce more questions from the opposition,

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<v Speaker 2>which will of course mean you're going to say the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing, which eventually is look like you're dodging something.

0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:04.720
<v Speaker 2>And there are two people who were moved out of

0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:08.000
<v Speaker 2>their positions because they tried the same trick.

0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:09.200
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>It never works, it never will, no matter how good

0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:19.600
<v Speaker 2>a performer they think you are. Now there's a huge

0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:21.960
<v Speaker 2>news story coming out of the States in the past

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<v Speaker 2>in the next couple of days, and nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with politics. There is a massive hurricane which is making

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<v Speaker 2>its way towards Florida. Now Category one lowest level, Category five,

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<v Speaker 2>highest level.

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<v Speaker 1>This is category five.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is mega, This is hardcore. This is going

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<v Speaker 2>to kill people. Okay, a hurricane that was around last

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<v Speaker 2>week has already killed about a couple of hundred people,

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<v Speaker 2>and Florida is a place that's used to this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but nothing as serious and as big as this. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what the mayors are saying to people to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that they get out of dodge.

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<v Speaker 8>And say, without any dramatization whatsoever, if you choose to

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<v Speaker 8>stay in what are those evacuation areas you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to die now.

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<v Speaker 2>To give you an idea of what is about to

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<v Speaker 2>take place, The expectation is that the water levels that

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<v Speaker 2>are going to end up being brought in from the sea,

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<v Speaker 2>that the storm surge is not going to be three feet,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be six, it's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be nine. It could end up eleven or maybe fifteen feet.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we know that's big, but to actually see it

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<v Speaker 2>before it happens is frightening.

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<v Speaker 9>At three feet above normally dry ground water is already

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<v Speaker 9>life threatening. It's too late to evacuate. Whatter this high

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<v Speaker 9>can knock you off your feet, make cars float and

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<v Speaker 9>driving impossible. The first floor of homes and businesses are flooded. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 9>the water is expected to rise even higher at six

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<v Speaker 9>feet above the height of most people. Vehicles get carried away,

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<v Speaker 9>structure starts to fail.

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<v Speaker 5>Just look at this.

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<v Speaker 9>Anything could be in this water, sharp glass, three chemicals

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<v Speaker 9>as well. The scary part is some areas could see

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<v Speaker 9>served values at ten to fifteen feet, and this takes

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<v Speaker 9>us up to nine. And look what it does at

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<v Speaker 9>this level. The first floors of structures are completely flooded

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<v Speaker 9>and there are a few places to a seat when

0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 9>the water rises this high.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's the American version of the Weather Channel. The

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<v Speaker 2>sky News Weather Channel will be covering this in full

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<v Speaker 2>detail tomorrow because about middle of the day tomorrow is

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<v Speaker 2>when the expectation is that something is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>taking place, which will be Wednesday in the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>if not twenty four hours later. But keep an eye

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<v Speaker 2>on channel six ZH one, which of course is the

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<v Speaker 2>Weather Channel. Now, speaking of the back and forth that

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<v Speaker 2>is around all of this, Kamala Harris, who of course

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<v Speaker 2>has played no role in the emergency services because nobody says,

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<v Speaker 2>get me the vice president, You say, get me the

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<v Speaker 2>president when there is a hurricane, is of course running

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<v Speaker 2>for president and trying to pretend that somehow she has

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<v Speaker 2>some role here. Now people are very busy. You could

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:02.119
<v Speaker 2>see what the mistakes are. So when she's trying to

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.880
<v Speaker 2>pick a fight with the Florida Governor, Ron de Santis,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm completely with the Florida governor who's telling her to

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<v Speaker 2>go jump first, Harris trying to turn this into a

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<v Speaker 2>blame the Republican story. You know, moments of crisis, if.

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<v Speaker 10>Nothing else, should really be the moment that anyone who

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<v Speaker 10>pass themselves a leader says they're going to put politics

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<v Speaker 10>aside as.

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<v Speaker 11>The people first.

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<v Speaker 6>Pop aren't desperate need to support right now, and playing

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 6>political games in this moment, in these priceless situations.

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<v Speaker 9>These as the height of emergency.

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<v Speaker 4>Situations, is just utterly irretonssible, and.

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<v Speaker 9>It is selfish, and it is.

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<v Speaker 6>About political gamesmanship. Is that of doing the job that

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<v Speaker 6>you've something else to do, which is to put.

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<v Speaker 2>The people for now, I'll be honest, pretty low right now.

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<v Speaker 2>She does not have an actual role in all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>The vice president is there to be the tiebreaker in

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<v Speaker 2>the Senate, to be the backup should the president die

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:00.119
<v Speaker 2>before our eyes, which I think we have seen when

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 2>it comes to this presonent, but then imagically kind of

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<v Speaker 2>back to life and apparently is still in charge.

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 1>So she's just a distraction.

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<v Speaker 2>She ends up ringing Ronda Santis, and let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>probably two rings, and quickly hung up so she could

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 2>say that she rached out, but Rond de Santis was

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<v Speaker 2>busy didn't answer his response.

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<v Speaker 12>She has never called on any of the storms we've

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<v Speaker 12>had since she's been vice president until apparently now, why

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<v Speaker 12>all of a sudden is she trying to parachute in

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<v Speaker 12>and inject herself when she's never shown any interest in

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<v Speaker 12>the past. We know it's because of politics. We know

0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:38.359
<v Speaker 12>it's because of her campaign. I have zero time to

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<v Speaker 12>entertain these political games. We're going to continue to do

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<v Speaker 12>what we need to do to prepare and respond to

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<v Speaker 12>what may be one of the most damaging storms in

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<v Speaker 12>the history of the United States. So she says, focusing

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<v Speaker 12>on protecting your people.

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>This selfish.

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<v Speaker 12>I think she ought to look in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Mirror middle stump like, honestly, she's not involved. She's ringing

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<v Speaker 2>in order to have the fight, trying to turn a

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<v Speaker 2>very red state into potentially a blue state because maybe

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 2>some red voters won't be able to vote because literally

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<v Speaker 2>their houses have been blown away.

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<v Speaker 1>What a piece of work.

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh and by the way, while she's trying to pretend, oh,

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 2>playing politics, and we can't possibly play politics, and it's

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 2>really difficult and important time, while Floridians are preparing for

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<v Speaker 2>a storm that we understand is expected to kill people.

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<v Speaker 2>Did she cancel all of her events head to the

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<v Speaker 2>situation room? Did she go to Florida herself? No, she

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<v Speaker 2>went on a TV show, one of many today in

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<v Speaker 2>New York City, she showed that this is what she's

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<v Speaker 2>doing while other people are boarding up and leaving their houses.

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<v Speaker 2>If a Republican did this, it'd be game over.

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<v Speaker 5>As for Miller, Hilight, I'm just curious.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, the last time I had beer was at a

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<v Speaker 6>baseball game with Dougs.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's like the beautiful city of Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, So that covers Wisconsin. What a fake?

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<v Speaker 2>Firstly, it reminds me of when I went to the

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<v Speaker 2>baseball with my husband.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, but more importantly.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty four hours ago, she's prancing around pretending that that

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<v Speaker 2>Ron de Santis is putting politics above country, and when

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<v Speaker 2>people are literally fleeing their homes because of what you've

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<v Speaker 2>just seen about how the water is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>take all their property with it, all their photos with it,

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<v Speaker 2>all their memories with it, and all of the other

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<v Speaker 2>things are going to be destroyed, she doesn't cancel the

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<v Speaker 2>appearance with the TV. No, No, she's got to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>When the reality was, if she was actually feeding her

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<v Speaker 2>about it, she'd say, I'll do that next week. In

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<v Speaker 2>the meantime, I'll go to somewhere where I can maybe

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<v Speaker 2>help somewhere, which, in my view, is to just go away,

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<v Speaker 2>but we have to wait about a month for that

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<v Speaker 2>to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't we quick break back with more here on Paul

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<v Speaker 2>Apologies about the voice. I don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel fine, It's just something's going on. I apologize.

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<v Speaker 2>reminder Our town twentieth of October. Okay, Sunday twentieth of October.

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<v Speaker 1>And while you're at it.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a pub test coming up which will be

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<v Speaker 2>part of our coverage of the Queensland election. It'll be

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<v Speaker 2>in the final days before the Queensland election. Our special

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<v Speaker 2>guest will be the Federal Opposition leader Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 2>News dot com dot au. Let's fill the joint right

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<v Speaker 2>now now always here to help with Stephen Conroy and

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<v Speaker 2>wow has he got something to talk about tonight with

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<v Speaker 2>the NBN and fathom of payment and the carryover champ

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<v Speaker 2>as always is the.

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<v Speaker 1>Lovely bronmin Bishop.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello love you so can we just very quickly start

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<v Speaker 2>on the payment thing right? Because why is it that

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<v Speaker 2>a person whose vote is never essentially going to block

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<v Speaker 2>what the government wants to do, who starts a political

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<v Speaker 2>party because she can. She's sitting MP, who's never going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to produce a quota to get into

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<v Speaker 2>the Parliament, let alone lower House seats because the preferences

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 2>of labor would be required and or the Libs would

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 2>be required, and both obviously are not going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Play that game.

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<v Speaker 2>Why does the media give her the full six pm

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<v Speaker 2>news treatment yet Jared Rennick, who again was in a

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<v Speaker 2>position to do exactly the same thing, leave the party

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<v Speaker 2>who brought him, launch his own party, no coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>Geez, I wonder what it might be.

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<v Speaker 2>But brommin, why are these two senators being treated differently?

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<v Speaker 8>Because she was a dypick DEI pick, she wasn't expected

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<v Speaker 8>to win. She was supposed to be the token on.

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<v Speaker 2>Ticket, which she said herself and about how she felt

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<v Speaker 2>in the.

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<v Speaker 8>Party and flipped it in. She actually has won the lottery,

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<v Speaker 8>she said, for six years, your squallions of dollars, the

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<v Speaker 8>vote whisperer, the preference whisperers come along and whispered in

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 8>her ear, or we can make you great, and so

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<v Speaker 8>hence the name of the party, hence the attention today,

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<v Speaker 8>and really does anybody care?

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<v Speaker 1>No, they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But Stephen again, right now, your position is, hey, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the deal. You came with our team. If you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be a part of our team, bugger off.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll tell you what. It takes a set of

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 2>stones when you've been active in politics for just five

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 2>years to say the Liberal and Labor Party has lost

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<v Speaker 2>its way, when she's only been a senator for less than,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's get to the bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>Question, right, rather than just the you know, go her,

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<v Speaker 2>you know labor rat stuff. Right, why does the media

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<v Speaker 2>treat her invention of a party with multiple days and

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<v Speaker 2>press conferences? Then again, Rennick, same part, same thing that

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<v Speaker 2>happened in this parliament.

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<v Speaker 11>Look, if I was being kind, I don't think the

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<v Speaker 11>comparison with Rennick quite works. He quit formed his own

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 11>party because he got rolled in pre selection. She quit

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<v Speaker 11>allegedly on a matter of conscience. Whereas an apologies to you, Paul,

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<v Speaker 11>she's a labor rat who should give a seatback and

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<v Speaker 11>actually get out of parliament and stop being a coward

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 11>and run on whatever her values are and we expect

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<v Speaker 11>there to be a lot of scrutiny, a lot of questions.

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<v Speaker 11>So the sort of pathetic press conference today, the even

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<v Speaker 11>more pathetic seven point thirty report interview tonight exposes what

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<v Speaker 11>a complete and us a coward.

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<v Speaker 2>She is correct, right, but again and this is part

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<v Speaker 2>of what she had to say today, which is basically

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<v Speaker 2>look again, right, this is sort of party in name only,

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<v Speaker 2>no membership, no policy, no idea. And I noticed on

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<v Speaker 2>the front page of the OS tomorrow she's coppying it

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<v Speaker 2>from some of the people pushing the voice, because of

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 2>course she's naming the party Australia's Voice, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>was rejected by the people of Western Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>But have a look, what's the purpose of the party?

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<v Speaker 6>Great, qush Tom. We're obviously launching the party today. The

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<v Speaker 6>policy platform will come in time and I'm very excited

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 6>to publicly announce them in due course.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I just it's the game of it, Bromwin, It's

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<v Speaker 2>the game, right. She doesn't have to have anything she

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<v Speaker 2>considers an independent.

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<v Speaker 8>She doesn't have to have a thought in the head.

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<v Speaker 8>The bottom line is Senator Renick, he'll be gone after

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<v Speaker 8>the next election. Where she's there till the election after

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<v Speaker 8>this one, just like she's going to be sitting there

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<v Speaker 8>as a vote, and heaven knows which way the Senate plays.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the tip.

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<v Speaker 2>She'll always vote against the Libs, quite right. Whatever happens

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 2>to be, be in opposition to or government, minority and

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 2>majority in any form, she'll vote against them. Okay, Now, Stephen,

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 2>the National Broadband Network, Okay, I happen to remember some

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 2>spirited discussions at the time, when you remember of the

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Australian government. I was a little skeptical about whether this

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<v Speaker 2>was the right thing to do.

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 11>You know there was and now you know, now you

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 11>know you were wrong. Now you know you're wrong. So

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 11>I'm happy to know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think we probably should have done a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more Wi Fi work rather than just the cable

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<v Speaker 2>going to everyone's house.

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>But okay, okay, I understand, all right, however.

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<v Speaker 11>WI is table, Wi Fi is on cable coming off.

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<v Speaker 8>Dick up my garden and my driveway to try and

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<v Speaker 8>put that in, I've got.

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<v Speaker 11>We wouldn't want we wouldn't want to damage your roses.

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 11>We would here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me get to with this, all right, So, Stephen,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that one of the reasons why the NBN

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<v Speaker 2>was a wonderful thing to build was because it was

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 2>then an asset that potentially the government could sell. At

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<v Speaker 2>one point in time, I have been sent and press

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<v Speaker 2>releases put out by the then Communications Minister saying quote,

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Government committed to the sale of nbyan co. Today the

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister rolls into the Parliament and says, we will

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 2>pass the law not to sell what no one was

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 2>planning to sell. What do you think of them passing

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 2>the law to reverse the original idea of building the

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:20.839
<v Speaker 2>bloody theme.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, look, I'm familiar with what goes on in the

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.760
<v Speaker 11>background of the telecommunication sector. That'll come as a surprise

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 11>to you, Paul. But there are, believe it or not,

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 11>a bunch of companies out there you can name your

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 11>own names at this point who would prefer to buy

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 11>the NBN so they can recreate the sort of monopoly.

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 11>But didn't you want to sell perhaps had in the past,

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 11>Now we would look at it. I'm very happy and

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 11>very excited that we are now opposing it. Okay, where

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 11>I am I am happy to put my hand up

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 11>and say categorically I am happy with this announcement. Absolutely,

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 11>one hundred and fifty percent happy that we've decided to

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:11.240
<v Speaker 11>lock it in so that unfortunately the person you voted

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:15.800
<v Speaker 11>to make Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, completely and utterly stuffed

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:21.240
<v Speaker 11>the NBN plenty of stuff. That's Malcolm Turnbull. Malcolm Turnbull

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 11>was wrong and every over the thing he did. But

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 11>according to Win and let me do.

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Got right. Let me do a little bit of follow

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 1>up here.

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<v Speaker 2>All right again, I am looking at a press release

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 2>that has been said to me.

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Now, if it's Ai, please tell me. I don't know the.

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:39.399
<v Speaker 2>Date government committed to the sale of nby inco.

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 1>I could read it.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to you, but I love you and I'm not

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 2>going to. So the position has changed. What I mean

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.879
<v Speaker 2>you you were committed to the Sun Now you love

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 2>the idea that.

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>That that it's not being sold.

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 11>Well, I think Malcolm Turnbull ever, irretrievably broke it for

0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:07.800
<v Speaker 11>the next handed.

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Over fore and he turned it into a feat I

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 2>get it.

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I get what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 8>There's another right here, the government. This is the government.

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 8>It says it's not going to sell something that was

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 8>never going to be sold. But it's perfectly happy that

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 8>the generators of the liberals of electricity could be sold

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 8>so that they could get along with the government and

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:27.760
<v Speaker 8>have oligopoly.

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 2>But you can't. You can't from.

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 8>The idea that the Liberal Party is going to build

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 8>new power stations of the government will own them.

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Because I love Steve and I'm not reading from this

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 2>press release, but jeez.

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm fighting.

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm fighting all my TV instincts to go for the kill.

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 1>But I like him. I like him, and if he

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 1>was still part.

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Of the Senate, I'll give you the tip gloves off,

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 2>still boots on, because he's part of our family.

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Will move on, all right.

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 11>I'm just here to help help and our mate.

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:01.319
<v Speaker 1>And how all right?

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 2>So Prime Minister gave an interview today to my mate

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:07.879
<v Speaker 2>here and Gilbert and look, a lot of people understandably

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:11.280
<v Speaker 2>have had plenty to say about the positions on us Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get to something else here, right, which is what

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<v Speaker 2>happens after the next election. Labor MP is apparently told

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 2>by the Prime Minister, but forgive all this minority business.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not just going to win.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to keep our majority, potentially grow our majority.

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<v Speaker 1>But if we happen to.

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<v Speaker 2>Fall a couple of seats short, no deals with the Greens.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course this is said again in interviews, But of

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>course the deals aren't assigned deals. The deals us the

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 2>promise to have supply and also to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't get rolled on a no confidence motion.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, is the.

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<v Speaker 10>Being absolutely I ruled that out. I'm the only candidate

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<v Speaker 10>for prime minister seeking a government in our own right,

0:37:56.440 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 10>and there'll be no deals with the Greens. I want

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 10>a majority Labor government and the best way that that

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 10>can be achieved is by people voting Labor in the

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:08.479
<v Speaker 10>election when it's held.

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<v Speaker 2>Is as Ricky Gervais would say, is he having a laugh?

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Is he having a laugh?

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<v Speaker 2>The concept of the concept of a majority government being

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 2>the aim, the.

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<v Speaker 8>Concept of him being in a parliamentary system and saying

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 8>I am the only leader who is looking for an

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<v Speaker 8>absolute majority.

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<v Speaker 1>Make what Greens are?

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<v Speaker 8>Excuse me, this is the name of the game. You

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 8>also needing a party that you want to win and

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 8>be the prime minister?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, imagine I hear my declare three seats is our dream?

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<v Speaker 1>Three?

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<v Speaker 8>I think he's been taking lessons from Kamala. I'm just

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<v Speaker 8>about the only thing missing from that interview was I

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 8>grew up in a House and Commission House and I had.

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 2>A tough time and we loved our lawn absolutely. But again,

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Stephen right, all the data right now that basically shows

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 2>if the Labor Party falls from where it was at

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 2>the last election by one two points, then its capacity

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 2>to hold on to the seventy eighth, the seventy seventh

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:09.240
<v Speaker 2>and the seventy sixth seat that they currently own mathematically

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>falls away. Yet the Prime Minister says, despite the fact

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 2>that every statistical indication is that they have not grown

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 2>since the last election in terms of where they sit today,

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 2>is he just you know, know, reving up the troops

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.800
<v Speaker 2>going into the fourth quarter of a losing Grand final.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on here?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, we'll just give you the alternative speech in the

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 11>Liberal Coalition party room where Peter Dutton didn't walk in.

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>So we've got the jersey on.

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<v Speaker 11>We can't win, but where are we are? We're just

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:41.799
<v Speaker 11>going to give it a red hot, but.

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:42.839
<v Speaker 1>We know we can't win. Press.

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<v Speaker 11>All leaders have to tell their parliamentary parties days like

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 11>today in their caucus and party room meetings they're going

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:54.320
<v Speaker 11>to win their own right. That is just it's like mandatory.

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 11>If you say anything else, you know the story Albo

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 11>shows you can't win. So everyone has to say that

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 11>in terms of the most important message. And I think

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 11>it's seared in Albow's memory because we were in cabinet

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 11>together when this happens. The decision to hold a press

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 11>conference there in the courtyard piece of paper sign a

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 11>deal with Bob Brown was a disastrously bad one for

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:22.880
<v Speaker 11>the Gillard governments.

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>So we'll just have one. It'll be hostage.

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<v Speaker 11>No, no, it's a question of the governor General. Requires

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:36.359
<v Speaker 11>you to be able to demonstrate party that you have

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 11>confidence and then you just horse trade. No difference to

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 11>horse trading in the Senate. What we had to horse

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 11>trade rubbish. The House of represented twenty ten and twenty.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>The people in the House who don't even get elected

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.800
<v Speaker 8>unless they get the preferences from the Greens, and the

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 8>question is asked, they are such vile people that they

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 8>should go last on your ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely, I'm with you there. Thank you, guys. We're

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:08.360
<v Speaker 2>out of time. We'll do it in next week. That

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:10.879
<v Speaker 2>was fun, Steven, check your phone. I sent an old

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:12.720
<v Speaker 2>press release. All right, quick breakback.

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>We're more. Meghan Kelly next, our favorite person.

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Who talk to her in the world is not on

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 2>the Wonderful Meghan Kelly, and there's so much to talk

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:24.879
<v Speaker 2>to her about the Megan Kelly Show on Serious XCM

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 2>YouTube or podcast Rockstar.

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Nice to talk to You.

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris has discovered that it's okay to do interviews now.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of them are incredibly soft. Some of them are

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of soft. But I want to ask before we

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 2>get into the view in sixty minutes and Howard Stern

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:41.320
<v Speaker 2>and Colbert.

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Why is she doing this now? I thought she was winning.

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 5>Clearly, there's been some bad news in the internal polling.

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 5>And while today there was a New York Times Siena

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 5>Paul that showed her three points up in the national

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 5>vote over Donald Trump, that's only anecdotal. What she needs

0:41:57.040 --> 0:42:00.359
<v Speaker 5>to do is get up above him by some significant

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 5>margin in the swing states, and it just isn't happening.

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 5>And just as that New York Times Sienna Pole hits,

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:09.799
<v Speaker 5>another yugav Pole hit as well saying that Trump is up.

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 5>So what it tells me is that something told her

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 5>in the internal polling it's not going well and she

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 5>needed a strategy shift. Otherwise she would not be changing

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 5>strategy with thirty days to go until the election. You

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 5>only do that if you expect to lose.

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:25.760
<v Speaker 3>So she has.

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 5>Seen something that we haven't seen that probably is rather

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 5>dramatic because they are taking a huge risk putting her

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 5>out and also her buddy, Governor Pinocchio, who can't go

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 5>two minutes without telling another lie. So we'll see whether

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 5>it changes her numbers at all. But it's really late

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:46.280
<v Speaker 5>in the game to be making this biggest shift.

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's also, as you know, a couple of stipe

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 2>poles that have popped up tonight, which is starting to

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:54.320
<v Speaker 2>show Trump in front in the places that are considered

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:58.400
<v Speaker 2>to be the absolute mast beginning of the ween Blue

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Wolf sites of Michigan, Wold, Wisconsin, and in Pennsylvania. Now

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 2>about the actual interviews, I heard what you had to

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 2>say today that the sixty minutes conversation was the more

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 2>polite of the conversations that sixty minutes would normally have

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 2>with a political candidate. But at the very least there

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:19.719
<v Speaker 2>was some pushback, and even then she fumbles the ball.

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I give Bill Whittaker credit for at least

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:29.320
<v Speaker 5>trying on immigration, but net he wound up the thinnest

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 5>kid at fat camp like, it's not a really great accomplishment.

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 5>He that was it. That's really He pressed her on

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 5>the economy a little, and he pressed her legitimately on

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 5>immigration so good, and on every other exchange. He fell

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 5>down on the job. I mean, he had questions, like

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:51.320
<v Speaker 5>you say, based on the following three or four things

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 5>that Trump is a racist go on?

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:56.760
<v Speaker 1>It was like, what.

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 5>It was so obvious, right? And then in the sixty

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 5>minutes extra, which is the outtakes that didn't and just

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 5>some of them, not all of them, God forbid they

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 5>show us the whole thing because she'd looked like a

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 5>drooling mess. They of course cleaned up her transcript, but

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:12.759
<v Speaker 5>in some of the outtakes that they posted, he does

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 5>get into the coup right that Joe Biden went down

0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 5>and she was elevated and she took over this role.

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 5>And I'm like, great, this is where he's going to

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 5>ask her about the fact that this a has been

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 5>utterly undemocratic and b resulted after she lied to us

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 5>all for years about his mental acuity. What did she know?

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:30.759
<v Speaker 5>When did she know it? Why did she look us

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 5>in the eye and tell us that he was absolutely

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:35.759
<v Speaker 5>fine when we both have her on the record now

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 5>and him on the record saying they made every decision together,

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:40.919
<v Speaker 5>They did every law together. She was an integral part

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 5>of all of the big administration decisions, so she.

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 8>Was with him.

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:47.919
<v Speaker 5>She was with him a lot, so she would have seen. Nope,

0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:50.359
<v Speaker 5>it wasn't asked, he didn't touch on it. All he

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 5>asked was, well, do you think that's why people feel

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 5>like they don't know you because there wasn't a more

0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 5>robust process behind your elevation? Oh what a fail. And

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 5>it was just time and time again where she started

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 5>giving answers like she was at a deposition. Now, I'm

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 5>a lawyer. She's a lawyer, and these answers to me

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 5>at first sounded normal because I spent ten years taking

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 5>depositions and doing cross examinations. And when someone says I'm

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.800
<v Speaker 5>not going to answer as a hypothetical, that's a totally normal,

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:24.359
<v Speaker 5>common answer. In a deposition where you're across from an

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 5>adversary who hates you and is suing you or your client,

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 5>this is not a deposition. It is an interview in

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 5>which she is asking us on whose behalf the questioner

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:39.239
<v Speaker 5>is there to hire her for the most important job

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 5>in the world.

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 1>I won't answer.

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 5>A hypothetical is an absurd answer, and you know where

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:48.880
<v Speaker 5>she invoked it every single time. It was foreign policy,

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 5>because she's a no nothing. She didn't know what to

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:56.879
<v Speaker 5>say when he asked her about China. When he asked

0:45:56.920 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 5>her about Ukraine, she didn't. She danced, danced and danced.

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 5>She didn't know what to say. When he asked her

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 5>about Israel. She like every major conflict, she seemed completely

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:08.840
<v Speaker 5>flat footed and a little clueless, like she was waiting

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 5>for someone in her special little EarPods to give her

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 5>the answer. I realized this is an internet conspiracy theory,

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:17.479
<v Speaker 5>but it's kind of a fun one. And the answer

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 5>didn't come, so she just went with hypothetical. Not gonna

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 5>answer hypothetical. Well, guess what, we're entitled to the answer,

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:24.040
<v Speaker 5>she didn't give it. We used to ask that question

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:26.719
<v Speaker 5>all the time at presidential debates. Totally fair game. She

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:28.240
<v Speaker 5>didn't answer because she can't.

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 2>By the way, if you want to know anyone, then

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Megan Kittley has ever done a deposition on They're currently

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:37.280
<v Speaker 2>still in the fatal position and crying in fifty states

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 2>that you can find them all now on some of

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 2>the softest stuff ro I'll tell you quick.

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Story, Paul. Sorry.

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:45.359
<v Speaker 5>And I was taking my depositions, and it would nine

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 5>times out of ten to be a man I was

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:51.799
<v Speaker 5>opposed from opposing council, and they would start to get aggravated,

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, whatever I was doing, whether I was doing

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.839
<v Speaker 5>the questioning or whether I was doing the defending. And

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:59.320
<v Speaker 5>instead of getting progressively upset like I would when I

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:01.880
<v Speaker 5>was a very young atter, when I got older, I

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:04.280
<v Speaker 5>learned to go the other way and to get calmer,

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 5>and to look at these guys and just say, you

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 5>see him upset. Do you need a break? Do you

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 5>need to step outside? Come back after you've collected yourself.

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 5>It was so fun is to drive them insane?

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I missed that.

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Just turn into the ice the ice cold steamroller.

0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Fantastic, fantastic.

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Now on some of the softer interviews, now we know

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:30.560
<v Speaker 2>why all of this is there. It's for her to

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:33.240
<v Speaker 2>seem more likable than she actually is. It's not about

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 2>an intelligence test. But she even then stuffs it up.

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:40.320
<v Speaker 2>On the view she's asked by the most left wing host,

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.240
<v Speaker 2>is there anything you would do different than Joe Biden's

0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:46.360
<v Speaker 2>done in the past four years? Her answer no, So

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:49.160
<v Speaker 2>now she doubles down, and she owns every mistake and

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 2>the very reason why people wanted to punt him by

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 2>ten points.

0:47:55.080 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 5>Her campaign slogan is we can't go back. That's her

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 5>whole campaign slogan, we can't go back. And the reason

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 5>The New York Times reported today that it showed her

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 5>making a little bit of headway on its poll, which

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:12.359
<v Speaker 5>a month ago had Trump up one but now has

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 5>her up three. So it's a four point swing in

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 5>her favor is because the voters are trying to see

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:20.319
<v Speaker 5>starting to see her as the change candidate, as.

0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:22.319
<v Speaker 3>The one who will bring real change to.

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 5>The policies of the past few years.

0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:25.080
<v Speaker 8>What does she do?

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 5>She goes out and says, I'm exactly like Joe Biden.

0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:30.440
<v Speaker 5>Everything he did I was a part of my blessed

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:32.839
<v Speaker 5>I worked on. Yes, I see no difference between us

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:36.240
<v Speaker 5>other than his name is Joe Biden and mine isn't.

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.879
<v Speaker 5>I mean, that's really how she answered the question. You

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 5>almost have to feel for her campaign staff, which is

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<v Speaker 5>in the back room going like, oh my god, does

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<v Speaker 5>anyone have any bourbon? And then of course they're like,

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<v Speaker 5>it's in Comma's purse. It's right over there.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ultimate Big and kille Chat. Thank you Mitt.

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<v Speaker 5>Great to see your policy next week.

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<v Speaker 10>Didn't keep