WEBVTT - Credlin | 29 October 0:00:02.020 --> 0:00:07.640 Peter Credlin, live from News 24. 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:12.590 Good evening. Welcome to the program. Bombshell allegations tonight involving 0:00:12.610 --> 0:00:16.430 the Prime Minister and One Nation MP David Farley. They're 0:00:16.450 --> 0:00:20.290 just breaking now. It appears he's been offered inducements that 0:00:20.310 --> 0:00:24.460 he has rejected now involving staff and grants. in his 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.000 New South Wales seat of Faro. The One Nation MP 0:00:27.060 --> 0:00:30.880 will join me now, live from Canberra, on the program. 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.460 More tonight, too, on the referral by the head of 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:37.920 Victorian Police to the state's anti-corruption watchdog of that infamous 0:00:37.979 --> 0:00:41.159 crash involving Dan and Catherine Andrews and the young cyclist. 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:45.260 It comes after a long investigation and more evidence that's 0:00:45.300 --> 0:00:49.130 been brought to light. Hamas, the Islamist terror group responsible 0:00:49.170 --> 0:00:52.310 for the horrors of October 7, have launched a legal 0:00:52.350 --> 0:00:56.810 bid in Australia to overturn its listing as a terror group. 0:00:57.290 --> 0:01:00.130 So why are we wasting millions in legal costs to 0:01:00.220 --> 0:01:03.580 even entertain the madness? I've got an update for you 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:08.300 too on that convicted ISIS terrorist, Isaac El Matari, set 0:01:08.380 --> 0:01:13.020 for release from prison on Sunday. And the huge backlash, too, 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:17.479 against Labor for using your money to fund a website 0:01:17.860 --> 0:01:20.920 that critics say normalises pedophilia. 0:01:20.940 --> 0:01:24.330 I can't believe the government is sticking by this. Michelle Rowland, 0:01:24.370 --> 0:01:27.350 the minister responsible, has said that they're not going to 0:01:27.390 --> 0:01:28.570 take this website down. 0:01:28.590 --> 0:01:30.149 I don't want to be impolite about it. 0:01:30.209 --> 0:01:35.640 But it says to try and avoid fantasies about children 0:01:35.780 --> 0:01:37.280 when masturbating. 0:01:37.340 --> 0:01:41.670 I mean, this is extraordinary. We will come back to 0:01:41.690 --> 0:01:44.710 that because your reaction from the news I brought to 0:01:44.750 --> 0:01:49.070 you about that website last night has been enormous. But first, 0:01:49.110 --> 0:01:53.380 the lies continue to mount and the Prime Minister's approval 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:57.080 numbers keep tanking. And it says today in the Parliament, 0:01:57.100 --> 0:02:01.060 doesn't it? This is why his fuse is getting shorter. 0:02:01.940 --> 0:02:05.300 The Prime Minister promised he wouldn't change CGT and negative 0:02:05.340 --> 0:02:09.260 gearing before the election. Then he did. He promised a 0:02:09.250 --> 0:02:13.799 $ 275 cut to power bills that he never delivered. He 0:02:13.860 --> 0:02:17.400 said he didn't mock the Japanese Prime Minister when he did. 0:02:17.419 --> 0:02:20.820 He said he didn't fall off a stage when he did. 0:02:21.380 --> 0:02:24.000 He said his $ 6 billion grant to the Marrickville Golf 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.880 Club was to fix sewerage flows when it wasn't. He 0:02:27.940 --> 0:02:30.700 said the relevant program wasn't invitation only. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:31.520 When it was. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.760 Why does this Prime Minister have such a difficult relationship 0:02:36.100 --> 0:02:36.700 with the truth? 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.470 He wasn't happy today, the Prime Minister, and clearly I 0:02:42.110 --> 0:02:44.350 won't be getting a Christmas card either. 0:02:45.270 --> 0:02:51.329 It is astonishing that they continue to get their advice 0:02:52.010 --> 0:02:56.050 from their friends who used to have a role in 0:02:56.090 --> 0:02:59.480 this place and don't anymore but have slots on media. 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.560 Slots on media. I wouldn't want a Christmas card from 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:07.460 Anthony Albanese. I mean, I'm not interested in currying favour... 0:03:07.550 --> 0:03:10.750 with a bloke that treats the truth like kryptonite. 0:03:11.810 --> 0:03:14.850 Can the Prime Minister explain with a straight face why 0:03:14.870 --> 0:03:17.330 there's no mention of the sewerage works in the Prime 0:03:17.370 --> 0:03:21.470 Minister's own announcement on March 2025? No mention in the 0:03:21.610 --> 0:03:25.090 Inner West Council documents. No mention of sewerage works on 0:03:25.110 --> 0:03:28.250 the Grant Connect website. No mention of sewerage works on 0:03:28.270 --> 0:03:31.620 the golf club's website. And no mention of sewerage works 0:03:31.690 --> 0:03:34.180 in the Infrastructure Department's decision brief. 0:03:34.500 --> 0:03:40.240 On the 27th of April 2025, We made an election commitment, 0:03:40.460 --> 0:03:44.460 building and securing the Marrickville Golf Club precinct. Went on 0:03:44.500 --> 0:03:49.780 about stormwater being harvested, irrigating the golf course, the upgrade 0:03:49.900 --> 0:03:53.660 of better indoor amenities with clubhouse renovations and the provision 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.820 of community meeting and function rooms, and went into boosting 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.940 the health of the nearby Cooks River. 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.360 Can it get any more desperate? I mean, for 18 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.980 months now, He's never said anything to connect the golf 0:04:08.020 --> 0:04:11.920 club grant with Sewerage Works until he got caught out 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.470 last month in a lie. Now he's trying to double 0:04:15.500 --> 0:04:20.289 down even harder, claiming that the money for stormwater harvesting 0:04:20.830 --> 0:04:24.969 is the same as Sewerage Works. Well, it's not. Once 0:04:25.010 --> 0:04:27.930 to stop runoff from the club's septic tank ending up 0:04:27.970 --> 0:04:30.890 in the Cooks River, and that's now been paid for 0:04:30.950 --> 0:04:33.909 by the New South Wales government. The other is about 0:04:34.029 --> 0:04:38.050 harvesting stormwater off the clubhouse roof, putting it in a 0:04:38.089 --> 0:04:41.880 tank and later using it to irrigate the 18-hole course 0:04:42.380 --> 0:04:45.279 and avoiding the need to use water out of the 0:04:45.300 --> 0:04:49.060 Cooks River. It's embarrassing just how much this bloke can 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:53.000 twist and turn just to avoid being upfront and honest 0:04:53.260 --> 0:04:54.560 when he stuffs up. 0:04:55.700 --> 0:04:59.160 Mr Speaker, I seek leave to table the guidelines... for 0:04:59.180 --> 0:05:03.720 the major and local community infrastructure program, showing this was 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:08.929 an invitation-only program to correct the record because the Prime 0:05:08.950 --> 0:05:10.610 Minister just misled the House. 0:05:12.250 --> 0:05:14.510 Yeah, the PM was all over the shop today, clearly 0:05:14.710 --> 0:05:18.150 under pressure. And all of this now will be interrogated 0:05:18.190 --> 0:05:24.030 by the Senate inquiry into the $ 560 million pork barrel, which, 0:05:24.150 --> 0:05:27.180 as you heard from Senator McKenzie last night, is now 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:31.760 set to run longer and dig deeper into this rotten 0:05:31.900 --> 0:05:32.960 grants scheme. 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.200 We're going to continue to pursue this. We've got another 0:05:36.300 --> 0:05:39.789 hearing on the 12th for the Senate inquiry that we're doing. 0:05:39.830 --> 0:05:41.529 We've got the ANAO coming. 0:05:42.050 --> 0:05:44.190 We've got Prime Minister and Cabinet coming because we're going 0:05:44.210 --> 0:05:46.950 to get to the bottom of those codes of conduct questions. 0:05:47.510 --> 0:05:52.210 And we've got the Marrickville Golf Club themselves coming. So 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.280 we are going to get to the bottom of this. 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:56.279 She will. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:00.850 She will. And while they're investigating Albanese and the Marrickville millions, 0:06:01.510 --> 0:06:05.250 how about they take a long, hard look at some 0:06:05.290 --> 0:06:08.060 of the other money being thrown around by this government 0:06:08.570 --> 0:06:12.960 and the infrastructure minister, Catherine King, in particular. Now, King's 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.480 the member for Ballarat in country Victoria. It's a seat 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:20.179 she's held for over 20 years. In May this year, 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:24.800 she announced a $ 600, 000 grant for the Ballarat Trades Hall 0:06:24.820 --> 0:06:27.909 in the home of the union movement in that area, 0:06:28.350 --> 0:06:33.530 but also Labor's party headquarters in her electorate. Indeed, all 0:06:33.570 --> 0:06:39.340 of Labor's local political advertising carries the required authorisation that 0:06:39.420 --> 0:06:44.660 lists the trades hall address on the literature. Now, honestly, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:48.590 ask yourself this. Is half a million dollars to renovate 0:06:48.690 --> 0:06:54.570 Labor HQ really the best use of your scarce taxpayer money? 0:06:55.310 --> 0:06:58.980 After all, it's worth noting that on their website, Trades 0:06:59.140 --> 0:07:02.900 Hall makes a real point of providing details about all 0:07:02.940 --> 0:07:06.400 the various places in the building, all the rooms and 0:07:06.700 --> 0:07:11.300 conference facilities that they hire out commercially for a fee. 0:07:12.260 --> 0:07:14.800 If the Labor Party and Trades Hall are making money 0:07:15.260 --> 0:07:18.280 renting out this building, then why don't they use some 0:07:18.300 --> 0:07:21.750 of the money there to do the renovations? Why hit 0:07:21.790 --> 0:07:25.770 the taxpayer up yet again? This grant handed out by 0:07:25.810 --> 0:07:29.290 the Infrastructure Minister Catherine King to a union and a 0:07:29.350 --> 0:07:33.010 Labor Party connected to the building in her own seat 0:07:33.750 --> 0:07:39.560 also raises questions about probity and process rules. particularly given 0:07:39.620 --> 0:07:43.620 her branches and Labor branches in that seat have been 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.900 such a frequent user of the building, including hosting her 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:53.060 own election night parties. Even Anthony Albanese has attended union 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:57.960 events at Ballarat Trades Hall. What's more, this is also 0:07:57.980 --> 0:08:02.530 the regional headquarters for the Australian Services Union. And as 0:08:02.670 --> 0:08:07.720 it's listed on her Parliamentary Register of Interests, The ASU 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.830 is King's own union. Talk about you scratch my back 0:08:11.870 --> 0:08:15.690 and I'll scratch yours. Can you imagine the uproar if 0:08:15.810 --> 0:08:19.110 hundreds of thousands of dollars was spent tarting up Liberal 0:08:19.130 --> 0:08:23.550 Party HQ on the taxpayer coin? Yet under this Prime Minister, 0:08:24.090 --> 0:08:26.890 he's happy to take money off veterans and cut the 0:08:26.950 --> 0:08:30.850 private health rebate for those over 65, but his golf 0:08:30.890 --> 0:08:34.930 club mates, his union mates and his Labour Party mates 0:08:34.950 --> 0:08:38.329 are Well, they all get looked after with your money, 0:08:38.929 --> 0:08:45.620 don't they? All right, they wrapped the end of the 0:08:45.630 --> 0:08:47.880 sitting period for the moment. Not much to go before 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:49.820 the end of the year. We'll get the headlines now 0:08:49.860 --> 0:08:51.300 with our reporter, Ribbon Sparker. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:56.000 Good evening. The Prime Minister is again facing coalition criticism 0:08:56.100 --> 0:08:59.640 over a $ 6 million grant to Marrickville Golf Club in 0:08:59.660 --> 0:09:00.660 his local electorate. 0:09:00.780 --> 0:09:03.970 This wasn't about invite only, this is an election commitment, 0:09:04.390 --> 0:09:09.010 just like the 1,000 election commitments made by those opposite. 0:09:09.090 --> 0:09:12.490 I seek leave to table the guidelines for the major 0:09:12.610 --> 0:09:18.110 and local community infrastructure program showing this was an invitation-only 0:09:18.190 --> 0:09:22.300 program to correct the record because the Prime Minister just 0:09:22.340 --> 0:09:23.280 misled the House. 0:09:23.740 --> 0:09:27.100 The Treasurer and Tim Wilson also clashed over government spending 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:28.080 and inflation. 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.730 After the Prime Minister has jetted off to the Caribbean... 0:09:31.890 --> 0:09:35.450 The RBA is expected to raise interest rates for the 0:09:35.970 --> 0:09:40.929 17th time under Labor. Will the Treasurer finally take responsibility? 0:09:40.980 --> 0:09:43.140 You can tell from that question that nothing makes the 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.900 Shadow Treasurer happier than the prospect of an interest rate rise. 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.000 Question time is now on a three-week break. There are 0:09:50.020 --> 0:09:52.900 just four more sessions scheduled for the rest of the year. 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.470 The head of the Tax Office has admitted he failed 0:09:55.490 --> 0:09:58.910 to understand small business concerns before he moved to end 0:09:59.030 --> 0:10:04.420 credit card payments. for tax bills. The ATO says $ 256, 000 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:05.760 paid their tax with a credit card. 0:10:05.940 --> 0:10:08.020 Had the similar thing happened to us again, I think 0:10:08.059 --> 0:10:11.040 we'd be more active in trying to engage with people earlier. 0:10:11.140 --> 0:10:13.900 The government has so far refused to cover the $ 200 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.800 million cost of keeping credit card payments available. 0:10:18.809 --> 0:10:21.010 All right, I'll come back to the Prime Minister under 0:10:21.050 --> 0:10:26.030 pressure again today, over the millions in that rorting grants 0:10:26.290 --> 0:10:28.730 process in a moment. But there's a lot of other 0:10:28.770 --> 0:10:30.790 headlines I want to get you across tonight. Let's bring 0:10:30.809 --> 0:10:34.589 in my panel to do that. News24 contributor Carolee Katzenbarnes 0:10:34.990 --> 0:10:39.050 and Women's Forum Australia's Stephanie Bastian. Steph, I'll start with 0:10:39.070 --> 0:10:41.730 you if I can. I have to get your reaction 0:10:42.150 --> 0:10:46.040 to the almost $ 10 million dollars that taxpayers are spending 0:10:46.059 --> 0:10:50.470 for this highly controversial website. It's called Stop It Now. 0:10:51.090 --> 0:10:54.140 Here's the Shadow Minister, Matt O'Sullivan, a little earlier. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.980 You go a long way into this website before you 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.440 get directed to actually go and seek out professional help. 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:05.179 The government needs to review this content, take it down, 0:11:05.420 --> 0:11:06.980 provide practical advice. 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:08.480 The first advice should be. 0:11:08.300 --> 0:11:11.080 That what you're doing is criminal and you must seek 0:11:11.179 --> 0:11:14.620 out professional help in order to stop this behaviour. 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:19.340 Yeah, Steph, you're a mum of little kids. I mean, 0:11:19.460 --> 0:11:22.020 I have no words for this. 0:11:22.620 --> 0:11:22.820 Who. 0:11:23.429 --> 0:11:26.650 in their right mind, would let this happen with our money, 0:11:26.990 --> 0:11:30.440 but let alone, I can't even get the words out, 0:11:30.860 --> 0:11:34.860 let alone then go out and defend it when we 0:11:34.900 --> 0:11:36.480 work out what's going on here. 0:11:36.500 --> 0:11:39.990 Well, what I want to know, Peter, is who's actually 0:11:40.070 --> 0:11:43.270 vetted this program? We've imported some of these modules from overseas. 0:11:43.820 --> 0:11:46.880 And quite frankly, the content is disturbing. Telling someone to 0:11:47.179 --> 0:11:50.340 take a walk and not think about sexually harming children 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.640 is not an adequate response. It is go and seek help. 0:11:53.700 --> 0:12:01.120 This is serious. Saying that getting akin to conversion practices, 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.770 if you try and change the way that you think 0:12:03.830 --> 0:12:07.300 about children as though it's akin to something like homosexuality, 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.420 which is on the website, makes it sound like they're 0:12:10.450 --> 0:12:12.930 trying to dress it up as some sort of sexual orientation. 0:12:13.010 --> 0:12:16.130 I mean, this is disturbing and we are spending millions 0:12:16.170 --> 0:12:19.030 of dollars on it. And I do not feel safe 0:12:19.070 --> 0:12:21.430 at all for the future of my children if this 0:12:21.490 --> 0:12:24.270 is the way that we are dealing with adults who 0:12:24.510 --> 0:12:26.530 are struggling with pedophilia. 0:12:26.550 --> 0:12:30.800 Yes, Steph, are you shocked, though, that the government has 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.900 defended it? Today they refuse to take this website down. 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.900 It's extraordinary and I just think the government needs its 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:41.620 head read. But you look at a lot of what's 0:12:41.660 --> 0:12:45.100 going on in schools today around the sex education and 0:12:45.140 --> 0:12:49.189 the lines have become very blurred when it comes to 0:12:49.610 --> 0:12:51.990 what children are being exposed to, the adults and how 0:12:52.030 --> 0:12:55.150 they're presenting it. We've got cases, so for example, in 0:12:55.230 --> 0:12:58.970 South Australia where a teacher is currently being investigated for 0:12:59.550 --> 0:13:03.459 lining up students and performing meant to be a demonstration 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:07.480 of a sex act behind them. I mean, the government 0:13:07.700 --> 0:13:10.580 really needs to stop and rethink about the whole way 0:13:10.620 --> 0:13:14.340 that they're addressing sex education in general, but this is 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.770 a whole step further and they can't seem to see 0:13:16.809 --> 0:13:20.790 the difference between the fact that these are adults that 0:13:20.830 --> 0:13:23.530 want to harm and offend children. They should be taking 0:13:23.550 --> 0:13:26.850 it down immediately. They should be clearing and vetting and 0:13:26.910 --> 0:13:31.740 making sure that the content is actually addressing the so 0:13:31.780 --> 0:13:34.900 that these people actually get the help and they know 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.080 that it's not some sort of sexual orientation where they 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:38.520 go and. 0:13:40.500 --> 0:13:41.470 That it's okay. 0:13:41.630 --> 0:13:44.990 It's got to be them seeking professional help and realising 0:13:45.030 --> 0:13:46.070 this is very serious. 0:13:47.809 --> 0:13:51.109 It is serious. Let's go to the obfuscation, the PM 0:13:51.150 --> 0:13:53.630 today in the House, all about the grants. I mean, 0:13:53.650 --> 0:13:55.869 he wants it to go away, Carolee. Front page of 0:13:55.890 --> 0:13:58.809 the telly, though, today, again in Sydney. It can't turn 0:13:58.850 --> 0:14:01.550 on the radio anywhere around the country. I mean, talkback 0:14:01.630 --> 0:14:06.320 callers are exploding, not just about this grant, but the lies. 0:14:06.790 --> 0:14:10.820 His inability to admit when he gets something wrong. I mean, 0:14:10.860 --> 0:14:15.480 his approval ratings, well, they're already in the toilet. My view, 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.310 my political view is... Once they've locked in a perception 0:14:19.330 --> 0:14:22.650 that you are this or that in relation to your character, 0:14:23.090 --> 0:14:26.410 and we saw that with Scott Morrison, it's incredibly hard 0:14:26.460 --> 0:14:28.160 to shift the view. I think he's in trouble. 0:14:31.460 --> 0:14:33.840 Well, let's remind the viewers, shall we? Here's a few 0:14:33.900 --> 0:14:35.960 things that spring to my mind. So we heard 50 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.680 times for the umpteenth time the changes that weren't going 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.380 to happen that did to negative gearing and also capital 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:45.390 gains tax. We heard ad infinitum that the power bills 0:14:45.430 --> 0:14:49.480 would go down by $ 275. We had the I didn't 0:14:49.540 --> 0:14:52.200 fall off the stage. We had the melon scaff, which 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.260 went around in circles and still no official apology to 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:59.200 the Japanese Prime Minister. We had the non-condemnation on October 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:03.050 the 9th, 2023, when the rest of Australia could hear 0:15:03.090 --> 0:15:05.350 what was chanted on the steps of the Sydney Opera House. 0:15:05.750 --> 0:15:07.960 Let's not forget he actually didn't want to hold a 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:11.900 royal commission into anti-Semitism and was dragged kicking and screaming 0:15:11.940 --> 0:15:14.730 when there were open letters in all the newspapers and 0:15:14.790 --> 0:15:19.230 across talkback radio and across television stations from business people 0:15:19.270 --> 0:15:22.330 and sports people wanting it actually held. What else can 0:15:22.390 --> 0:15:25.170 I say? Oh, yes, and look, the dreadful attack on 0:15:25.580 --> 0:15:29.520 Federal Independent MP for Indi, Helen Haynes, there was no 0:15:29.740 --> 0:15:33.040 information sheet, dirt sheet put out on her. Yet when 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:37.180 he was asked, when she very rightly questioned the Marrickville 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.760 Golf Club and wanted to probe, there was some kind 0:15:39.780 --> 0:15:42.750 of information sheet put out, which he denied and just 0:15:42.780 --> 0:15:45.310 said that she was a very good local member. Let's 0:15:45.370 --> 0:15:49.070 also not forget the cuts to the Allied Health for veterans. 0:15:49.390 --> 0:15:51.229 And I'm sure there are a whole host of other 0:15:51.270 --> 0:15:54.590 things that So if people have forgotten about his character, 0:15:54.910 --> 0:15:57.100 and one more thing that's just sprung to mind, it's 0:15:57.130 --> 0:16:00.040 all coming to my mind, Peter, what about the prickly 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.660 response when he was awarded the United Nations Global Citizen 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.560 Award and he was quite rightly asked by a journalist, 0:16:07.020 --> 0:16:10.210 don't you feel like a fraud given all the hassles 0:16:10.250 --> 0:16:13.030 and hoo-ha that's going on back in Australia and all 0:16:13.050 --> 0:16:16.530 the failings under your government? And he just went, no. 0:16:17.070 --> 0:16:19.910 and went across to another thing. Very glass jaw. Well, 0:16:19.930 --> 0:16:22.250 that's about eight things that I've rolled off that just 0:16:22.290 --> 0:16:23.130 spring to my mind. 0:16:23.190 --> 0:16:24.450 I'm sure there's hundreds of others. 0:16:24.850 --> 0:16:27.010 So if viewers haven't made up and voters haven't made 0:16:27.070 --> 0:16:30.490 up their mind about Anthony Albanese's character, there's some food 0:16:30.530 --> 0:16:30.910 for thought. 0:16:32.710 --> 0:16:35.240 Well, this won't help him either. There's now a date 0:16:35.630 --> 0:16:38.760 that Labor wants to force the staff out of Victoria 0:16:38.780 --> 0:16:43.860 barracks in Sydney. It's right up against Christmas. It's December 13. This, again, 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.340 has come to the Daily Telegraph in leaked reports today. 0:16:47.660 --> 0:16:51.020 They want to plough on. They're worried about the backlash. 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:52.880 So they think the sooner they can get people out, 0:16:52.900 --> 0:16:55.180 this is what a source is suggesting, the sooner they 0:16:55.210 --> 0:16:57.350 can get everyone out, the sooner they can shut down 0:16:57.530 --> 0:17:00.410 the noise. But the source says that people are actually 0:17:00.430 --> 0:17:04.609 becoming more and more outraged. Well, I'm not surprised here, Stephanie. 0:17:04.690 --> 0:17:06.209 It's not going to go away at all. 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.280 No, I don't think so. And I mean, once you've 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.740 sold an asset like this, you can't get it back. 0:17:12.060 --> 0:17:14.679 The government is desperate for money. They're obviously selling off 0:17:15.100 --> 0:17:17.800 these assets. But where is the money going to go? 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.310 And quite frankly, if they're building new infrastructure, I'd much 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:26.170 rather trust a building that was built in 1848 than 0:17:26.190 --> 0:17:28.470 I would with all the modern technology and the other 0:17:28.530 --> 0:17:31.790 risks and everything else that's going on with concerns around 0:17:32.150 --> 0:17:34.670 foreign interference and where we're getting our technology from. So 0:17:35.530 --> 0:17:37.530 I think that this is going to grow and become 0:17:37.550 --> 0:17:41.530 a bigger issue. We should be protecting our heritage. We 0:17:41.570 --> 0:17:44.130 should be protecting our military history. And this is just 0:17:44.170 --> 0:17:46.720 a slap in the face to try and drag it all, 0:17:47.100 --> 0:17:48.300 make it all happen before Christmas. 0:17:50.020 --> 0:17:52.660 Let's go to the fight over the debate. We always 0:17:52.700 --> 0:17:54.760 have one of these every time there's an election. This 0:17:54.820 --> 0:17:59.389 is the News 24 Herald Sun Victorian election debate. Hanging 0:17:59.570 --> 0:18:01.790 in the ballast tonight, Labor wants it to be a 0:18:01.950 --> 0:18:05.550 three-way debate. They want the Premier, they want the Opposition 0:18:05.570 --> 0:18:08.470 Leader and they want the One Nation Leader, who's not 0:18:08.510 --> 0:18:12.020 in the Parliament, Warren Pickery. The Coalition, though, they just 0:18:12.060 --> 0:18:16.040 want a debate between the two MPs, the Premier and 0:18:16.100 --> 0:18:19.939 the Opposition Leader. Here's Ben Carroll a bit earlier today. 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:26.500 We were all invited to a debate next week. I've RSVP'd, 0:18:27.060 --> 0:18:30.770 as has Warren Pickeryn. The only person who hasn't RSVP'd 0:18:31.230 --> 0:18:34.770 is Jess Wilson. So what does Jess Wilson have to hide? 0:18:35.250 --> 0:18:37.389 People are saying that you're running scared, not willing to 0:18:37.410 --> 0:18:38.340 debate Jess Wilson. 0:18:38.380 --> 0:18:39.060 What do you say to that? 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:43.280 The only person who hasn't RSVP'd to a debate with 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.740 me is Jess Wilson. The only person who's running scared 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:48.960 in her own community and in the whole of the 0:18:49.020 --> 0:18:50.179 state is Jess Wilson. 0:18:51.970 --> 0:18:54.919 Okay, that's a lie because I can confirm to you 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.840 tonight that Jess Wilson actually has RSVP'd to a debate 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:02.379 between her and the Premier. It's just the question of 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.060 the One Nation leader that's changing the circumstances she hit 0:19:06.140 --> 0:19:09.620 at back earlier today. Absolutely not. 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.260 To be honest, this isn't about any other party. This 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.540 is about the two people who can be Premier after 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:18.850 this election. The two people who have different plans for 0:19:18.869 --> 0:19:21.379 this state and I think it's only right that we 0:19:21.410 --> 0:19:23.640 have a debate, that tough questions are put, that we're 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:26.159 asked to defend our policies. I think it speaks to 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:29.000 volumes about Ben Carroll not prepared to do that with me. 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:31.020 As I said, Ben, I'm ready any day. 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:35.740 Yeah, I think Ben Carroll desperately wants One Nation on 0:19:35.780 --> 0:19:38.020 the stage because he wants a bit of cover. He 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.600 wants to make it about the parties on the centre-right 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.320 because if it's a head-to-head, he's got nowhere to hide, 0:19:43.340 --> 0:19:43.959 I think, Carolee. 0:19:46.670 --> 0:19:48.740 Yeah, look, it's an old saying, 90% of something is 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:52.950 better than 100% of nothing. I just think that Ben 0:19:53.010 --> 0:19:56.570 Carroll should be debating Jess Wilson. They might be debating 0:19:56.609 --> 0:20:00.530 between themselves. They're actually presenting, again, their policies for the 0:20:00.570 --> 0:20:04.650 Victorian voters to actually make up their minds to have 0:20:04.850 --> 0:20:09.109 another opportunity of making clear, concise messaging for people to 0:20:09.130 --> 0:20:11.609 be able to cast their vote. I think you're quite right, Peter. 0:20:11.770 --> 0:20:13.790 It is just cover because what he'll want to do 0:20:13.830 --> 0:20:16.820 is he'll try and wedge Jess Wilson. and make up 0:20:16.940 --> 0:20:19.699 untruths and things about some kind of deal or something, 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.840 whatever it might be. Jess Wilson is happy to debate. 0:20:23.270 --> 0:20:25.910 Ben Carroll is happy to debate. They need to appeal 0:20:25.950 --> 0:20:28.830 to Victorian voters and they should just get on and 0:20:28.869 --> 0:20:29.139 do it. 0:20:29.150 --> 0:20:34.740 All right, the Sex Discrimination Commissioner, Anna Cody, back in 0:20:34.780 --> 0:20:39.500 the headlines again after this study exchange in Senate Estimates. 0:20:40.740 --> 0:20:45.740 Does the Commission interpret Section 7AA as providing breastfeeding discrimination 0:20:45.780 --> 0:20:49.560 protections to a biological male who identifies as a woman 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:51.280 and induces lactation? 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:54.160 Yes, Senator. 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:58.200 Does the Commission believe an employer should be legally required 0:20:58.260 --> 0:21:01.899 or are they legally required to provide lactation breaks and 0:21:01.940 --> 0:21:07.400 breastfeeding facilities to a biological male who has medically induced lactation. 0:21:07.740 --> 0:21:10.689 They are subject to the same protections as anyone who 0:21:10.750 --> 0:21:11.470 is breastfeeding. 0:21:13.210 --> 0:21:16.690 And look, the UN Special Rapporteur on Violence Against Women 0:21:16.710 --> 0:21:20.960 and Girls, Reem Al Salam, says, Cody could only reach 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:25.020 this view by disregarding the material reality of women in 0:21:25.100 --> 0:21:29.940 favour of women being a feeling or an identity. Well, 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:31.290 she's right there, Stephanie. 0:21:32.930 --> 0:21:36.680 Absolutely. But I think what she's validating is even more sinister. 0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:39.160 When you have a man who is trying to, a male, 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:43.119 regardless of his gender identity, trying to chest feed an infant, 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.480 he is taking a cocktail of drugs to produce that 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.720 substance that he's feeding, the excretions he's feeding to the infant. 0:21:50.140 --> 0:21:54.100 The Australian Human Rights Commissioner, the Australian Sex Discrimination Commissioner, 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:58.109 Anna Cody, is legitimising that practice with what she said here. 0:21:58.570 --> 0:22:01.270 And it is quite frankly disturbing. And You look at 0:22:01.310 --> 0:22:04.090 New South Wales last week, they have just gone the 0:22:04.109 --> 0:22:08.859 complete other way with restoring biological definitions, breastfeeding mother. She's 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:12.400 out of step with reality and she's billing taxpayers nearly 0:22:12.460 --> 0:22:15.900 half a million dollars to push this nonsense. I mean, 0:22:16.109 --> 0:22:18.770 Albanese should be intervening. What we saw last week at 0:22:18.790 --> 0:22:22.669 Senate Estimates was an absolute joke. Taxpayers are funding it 0:22:23.070 --> 0:22:25.090 and it's time this madness came to an end. 0:22:26.780 --> 0:22:30.479 Yeah, men, biological males, breastfeeding, and that's being defended by 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:35.240 the taxpayer. Websites that are soft on pedophilia, that's being 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:37.590 defended by the taxpayer. I just think we're in a 0:22:37.590 --> 0:22:42.050 topsy-turvy world. I think everyone, everyone has had enough of this. 0:22:42.890 --> 0:22:44.430 I'll leave it there. We'll get back to it, I'm sure, 0:22:44.470 --> 0:22:47.230 next week. These issues are not going away. Now to 0:22:47.270 --> 0:22:50.820 the stunning revelations tonight. One Nation MP David Farley said, 0:22:51.230 --> 0:22:55.359 rejected an unsolicited offer from the Prime Minister of a 0:22:55.380 --> 0:23:03.420 taxpayer-funded personal advisor. It's a position worth upwards of $ 200, 000 0:23:00.780 --> 0:23:04.659 a year. It followed a series of private meetings initiated 0:23:04.780 --> 0:23:09.090 with Farley by the PM. In a statement issued tonight, 0:23:09.190 --> 0:23:12.530 One Nation claims the government also raised the prospect of 0:23:12.630 --> 0:23:19.230 grant funding for Murray-Darling Basin communities as compensation for water buybacks. 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:23.620