WEBVTT - Danica De Giorgio | 8 February 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:04.479 Why On Sky News Australia. 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:07.640 This is Denika to Georgio. 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:09.760 Hello and welcome to the show. 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:13.200 Coming up tonight, the coalition reunites as Susan Lee remains 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:16.680 defiant on her leadership, fresh off from her offer to 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:20.360 form a coalition. One Nation leader Pauline Hansen will join 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:23.600 me shortly. Jim Chalmers all at sea as he struggles 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.800 to explain why he's spending so much of your money? 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.040 How much longer can he seriously keep up the facade? 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.400 And a man accused of domestic violence against his partner 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:36.120 is moved to a female prison in Perth because he've 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.040 changed his sex on his birth. 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.040 Certificate and it's legal to do so. 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:42.760 Sal Grover, who was at the center of Australia's What 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:45.720 is a Woman case, is fired up and coming up soon, 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:47.080 but first tonight. 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.480 The coalition is back together. About time. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.720 The two leaders say they have resolved their differences. But 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:59.040 have they Because watching the joint press conference between Susan 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.959 Lee and David the Proud, they didn't seem to be. 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:04.520 Much love lost. 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.000 Have a look at the body language, didn't look like 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.520 there were a lot of smiles there. They both look 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:13.840 like they would rather be anywhere, but standing side by 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.679 side like a divorced couple who hate each other have 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.560 signed the paperwork but pretend to like each other for 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:20.800 the sake of the kids. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.119 Look, I don't know. Does this sound convincing to you? 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.560 But the coalition is back together and looking to the future, 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:35.640 not the past. We're squarely focused on representing the Australian people. 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.720 I trust David and I value and respect the National 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:39.280 Party as. 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.120 I wouldn't be standing here today if I didn't trust 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:42.760 Susan Lene, I didn't trust the Liberal Party. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.680 Does that sound like a rallying call of reunification? Does 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:52.960 it give reassurance to Conservative voters? Maybe I'm too harsh, 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.840 but to me it was a united front, but not 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:59.040 a united front. But they assure us now that they 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.760 are on the same page despite two breakups in twelve months. 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:04.320 Time will tell. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.360 Now Susan Lee accepted a counter offer from the National 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:11.040 Party that will see all National shadow ministers suspended until 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:12.120 March one. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:13.840 It would appear the opposition leader. 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.600 Has actually backed down on her original demand that the 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:20.240 three Nationals who broke shadow cabinet solidarity over the hate 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:24.200 speech laws be suspended until July. Now there's no doubt 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:25.880 the coalition is better together. 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:27.480 They need each other to govern. 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.920 This is good news, but can they get past the 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:35.040 reported screaming matches, not taking calls, and even Little Proud 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.040 reportedly saying he can't be part of the shadow ministry 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:38.959 under Susan Lee. 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.320 Lots of people have said lots of things, and some 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.480 have been attributed to people who are not named, and 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:49.000 some have been the point is that we did have differences, 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:52.079 David and I in our party rooms. We've resolved those 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:53.239 differences did look. 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.280 Dugly, but we've had the courage to come back and 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.200 say we're going to make sure it never happens again. 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.840 That's leadership, that's courage. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.200 And that's good because the coalition was the butt of 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.440 all jokes by Labor in question time this week, and 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.480 let's hope now the focus actually gets back to Labor. 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:13.600 But it's got me wondering, how convinced are you that, 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:17.200 even with reunification, that it's going to make any difference. 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.639 The polls suggests they are bleeding voters to one nation. 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.280 Conservative voters have switched off. They're done, and it seems 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.600 to me the coalition are in there. Will they won't 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.959 they error? Will they or won't they present something concrete? 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.400 Will they or won't they present something solid? Will they 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.120 or won't they survive as a coalition? Will they or 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.960 won't they come up with policy positions? I mean they've 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.440 split up twice, first on energy, then of course on 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.600 the hate speech laws. Conservatism has gone off a cliff 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.280 and at the same time, in the Liberals, will they 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:53.360 or won't they decide on a new leader? See Liberal 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.560 MP Angus Taylor has reportedly got enough support in the 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.920 party room to depose Susan Lee. However, his back is 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:03.120 remain uncertain about the timing and whether they can secure 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.760 the procedural support needed to force a spell motion, and 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.920 Angus Taylor was remaining coy when asked about it on Friday. 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.080 Andrew Hasty's ruled himself out of any potential leadership spill. 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.120 He's come out and made that very clear. 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.920 Why haven't you Well, I'm not going to say to 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.520 you and your listeners that I don't have and haven't 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.840 had leadership ambitions. I clearly have had, you know, That's 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:29.320 why I ran for the leadership last time around, and 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.600 meeting in our party room do and I think ambition 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:33.840 is a good thing. But most of all, what we 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:35.719 all want is a better Liberal Party and a better 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.479 coalition and we need that fast. And if we don't 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:42.480 deliver that, Australians will continue to look elsewhere and that's 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:43.400 simply not good enough. 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:47.200 Susan Lee remains confident she has the support. 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.640 I am very confident of the overwhelming support of my 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.920 party room. They elected me nine months ago to lead. 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:57.720 I said then I was up for the job. I'm 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:58.440 up for the job. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.279 Now how long is this going to drag on? 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:01.560 For? 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.599 Andrew Clenell was reporting on Sky News this morning that 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.960 some MPs from the Moderate faction believe Miss Lee should 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.200 be given more time, potentially even a budget reply speech, 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.920 to see whether she can stabilize the party. 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:15.400 And I've got to be honest. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.520 The will they won't they era is so tiresome and 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.479 so boring. And I'm about to speak to the woman 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.039 who is now the most favorable politician in the country, 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:28.479 Pauline Hanson, who's capitalized on it, and it's got the Liberals, 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.159 Nationals and labor worried. 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.240 You know, One Nation is broadly a party of protests, 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.560 very good at identifying problems. We often hear the conversation 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.800 from them about the problems, not so good at identifying 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:40.760 what the solutions are. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.279 Well, how serious is Pauline Hanson? She seems to be 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.159 only coming after National and Liberal Party seats. If the 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:50.000 enemy is Anthony Alberanezia, she articulates, She's not really serious 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:50.320 is she? 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:51.960 Is there a single issue party? 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:53.920 I have no idea how they would vote in relation 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.240 to important things like taxes, in relation to. 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:02.960 Absolutely turned my stomach to see that One Nation, which 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.920 was quite rightly a prior of you know, politics. Paul 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:09.760 En Hansson's made a career out of sewing division and 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:14.400 distrust and hatred between Australians, openly mocking people's most important 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.640 spiritual beliefs, and yet here she is being regarded as 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.080 a mainstream political force. 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:22.280 Look, that's just a load of nonsense. The formula One 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.120 Nation has offered up is pretty simple. The party brings 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.719 conservative and strong policies to the table without fear, like 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.480 cutting mass migration. Where is the Liberal Party policy? I 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.400 mean there are some Liberals like Senator Andrew Mlaglaughlin who 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.880 are even too scared to say it, claiming the phrase 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:42.520 mass migration is inflammatory and irresponsible. Then you've got some 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:46.560 moderates wanting to align themselves with the Teals to make 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:50.080 a new center right movement drag the party more to 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.440 the left terrific, I mean at every opportunity, moderates have 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:57.080 warned the party against becoming one nation light as if 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.000 that's offensive when one nation is more popular than both 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.200 the Liberals and Nationals. 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:03.000 And the Liberals are meant to be. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.840 The party of free speech but backed in Labour's hate 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.600 speech laws. So what do they stand for and what 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.360 is in it for Conservative voters? 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.160 Will they or won't they decide on a new leader? 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.960 And will they or won't they be able to work 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.720 cohesively with the Nationals. But here is the key question. 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.679 Does that even matter anymore? Or is it too late? 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.080 There is a blueprint over in the UK and Australia 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:28.920 is following it. 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.320 The Tories and Labor wrote off. 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.480 Nigel Farage and Reform UK, and now he no longer 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.000 leads a protest party, but one which could genuinely form government, 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.880 and by all accounts he could very well be their 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:45.720 next Prime minister. Why because voters know what he stands for, 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:50.800 cutting mass migration, stopping the votes, making Britain British again. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.920 His policy has not changed since day one, and neither 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:59.800 has Pauline Hanson's Australia has changed. The will they won't they? 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.760 Modern day conservatives just haven't caught up. 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:06.960 Now. 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.320 It seems you can only qualify these days to become 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:12.640 a teacher if you have a PhD in activism to 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:13.320 go with it. 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:15.560 The cultural left have well. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.800 And truly taken over classrooms across the country. We've had 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.440 teachers pushing a pro Palestine agenda in schools. There's been 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:26.800 an unofficial teaching guide explaining how to wear Palestinian stickers 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.280 and CAFs in class, and even suggestions on how to 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.880 weave anti Israel rhetoric into subjects. Over in Victoria, children 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.600 as young as five are being told their body parts 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.400 may not match their gender. Now, Mom and Dad don't 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.960 drop little Johnny or little Jane off in the morning, 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.840 only for their kids to come back waving the Aboriginal 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:51.120 LGBTIQ plus and Palestine flags, asking if they were born 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.760 with the wrong body parts, saying sorry to the stolen generation, 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.800 marching to the beat of always was, always will be 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.720 Aboriginal land and from the river to the sea. And 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.360 then we'll add the climate armagedon onto that as well. 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.400 Why don't we have I missed anything there? Well, if 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:10.120 you ask Chris Breen from teachers and school staff for Palestine, 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.040 it's all perfectly normal stuff. 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.800 I mean, there's a view I think that comes across 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.080 that politics should be kept out of the classroom, that 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.319 teachers are brainwashing students, and I think this is just far. 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:22.520 From the truth. 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.319 If that was the case, you know, we would get 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.120 students to sit down and not talk over us, and 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.680 not take each other's pencil cases and everything else. 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:35.080 Look. 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.120 I don't know what he's talking about, and clearly neither 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.959 does he. But if that is a standard, God help 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.360 our kids. And now The Herald's son has exposed online 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.679 chat forums where teachers around Australia are debating. 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.840 What is culturally appropriate in the classroom. 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:53.400 Never mind basic maths, science and English, never mind exchanging 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:57.320 ideas on how to improve educational outcomes for kids. They're 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.800 actually asking one another whether they should bring their politics 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:01.880 into school? 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:03.000 Can you believe it? 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.360 In one exchange, a Queensland teacher asked whether it was 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.440 political or not to wear a T shirt to class 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.400 with the message we honor and respect to Aboriginal and 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:15.400 torrestrate Islander people as the traditional custodians of country. 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:17.560 One teacher replied, saying. 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.200 That they wear there, always was, always will be shirt 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:25.640 almost weekly. Where on earth is a professionalism, let alone 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.440 a guideline from schools on a dress code. In Victoria, 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.800 a teacher issued an online apology in one of the 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:35.200 forums to anyone I insulted or who thought I was 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:39.680 being racist after their post questioned whether acknowledgment of country 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:44.199 had to be held daily. Teachers actually got so enraged 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.920 at the fact she questioned if it was a daily 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:51.280 practice that they called a fellow teacher racist. The apology 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:55.880 received supportive comments, including one thanking them for being introspective 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.760 and directing them to culturally safe environments. Guidance from the 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:04.160 Victorian Department of Education. Well, I mean, when you're under 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.760 a state with a treaty that nobody ever voted for, 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:12.240 what do you expect. A teacher from WA asked fellow 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.640 teachers about whether they had a nice welcome to country 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:19.880 sign for their classroom and on whether they think that's indoctrination. 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:25.120 Acknowledging and celebrating indigenous Australian culture in schools is not indoctrination. 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.719 And even posted an image of a Dictionary definition. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.920 Of just that. Well, I did a little google myself 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:33.119 at the very definition. 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:37.040 According to the Cambridge Dictionary, indoctrination is the process of 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.319 repeating an idea or belief to someone until they accept 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:45.600 it without criticism or question. Imposing your views on children 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:51.360 is indoctrination. And what right do these so called educators 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.680 have to be imposing them in the first place. It's 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.040 just so easy for these activists, and that's what they are, 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:01.280 to impose their views because kids are in pressionable. You 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.280 tell them one thing, they believe it, they take it. 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.960 I mean, they're kids, for goodness sake. They're not at 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.520 an age where they can form their own critical views, 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:10.000 and why should they be. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:14.720 Let kids be kids and let parents do the parenting. 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.600 Teaching is one of the most important and I would 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.480 say rewarding professions in the world. You get to equip 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.360 children and teenagers with critical learning skills, and when it 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.680 starts at school, these kids will one day carry it 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:31.080 into the workforce. And that is all we need. Another 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:35.840 generation of new age, woke adults. We've clearly got enough already. 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:43.000 Joinning me now is one nation leader. Senator Pauline Hanson, Senator. 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:44.800 Good to have you on the show. Thank you so 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.480 much for your time. Let's start with the coalition. They're 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:50.959 back together though, as I said earlier, you could really 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.319 cut the tension with a knife in that joint press 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.440 conference today. What's your reaction to that and do you 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.439 maintain that you'd still want to form a coalition. 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.720 Look, when I spoke about forming a coalition, Janika, it 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:09.440 was about if they were short in numbers to form government, 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.800 I would say, right, I'd give you confidence and I'd 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.080 give you a supply. I don't want to be part 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:18.480 of their cabinet all because what an absolute mess that is. 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.080 I don't want to be part of that. I don't 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.480 want to be dragged along to support their policies, which 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.880 most of the time I think there are shambles, and 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.320 I don't think they have some sound policies to get 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.400 the country out of the mess. But I think that 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.840 working with them, so if they don't require the vote 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.640 of one nation, we would look at their legislation. Look, 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.800 den Nekro, I'll work with anyone if I think it's 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.360 the best interest for the country and for the people. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:42.800 But they need to get their act together. Do I 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.040 think Susan Lee is going to last the distance? No, 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.440 I don't have I got faith in Angus Tailor. 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:48.400 No I don't. 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:52.160 Andrew Hasey, No I don't. They are lacking a lot 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.440 because they've been taken over by the moderates. The moderates 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:56.640 keep dragging them to the left. That's why One Nation 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:00.000 is the only conservative party to actually get them back 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.160 on track, to get this country back in the hands 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:03.720 of the people. 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.360 Well, and as I said earlier, you know this idea 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.840 that they could align themselves with the teals. They don't 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.920 like the word mass migration. I mean, you know, no 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.360 wonder they're in the situation that they are net zero 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:20.240 and net zero exactly absolutely and everything making zero am yes, 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.560 exactly thing yeah, and basic things like what is the 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.240 difference between a man and a woman? 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:26.960 You know, just simple, simple policies. 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:31.400 But your proposition has really got the Libs and Nats 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.040 on edge. Here's a reminder of some of it today. 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:34.600 Have a look. 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.440 They often hear the conversation from them about the problems, 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.480 not so good at identifying what the solutions are. 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.040 Well, how serious is Pauline Hanson? She seems to be 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.640 only coming after National and Liberal Party seats. 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.040 Maybe to an extent that's true. I mean, there's no 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.200 doubt you're looking at those seats. But how do you 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.200 read this, because if the polls are right, you're doing 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:54.920 something correct. 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.160 I mentioned reform earlier. 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:59.000 Faraja's taking it from a protest party to one which 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:00.520 could genuinely form government. 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:01.960 But how do you do that? 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.400 All right, Denika? What I'm saying is I believe we 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.560 need to get rid of the Labor Greens. They are 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:11.040 toxic for this country. 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:11.520 Now. 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.560 If I have to work with the coalish inside to 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.960 get the hand with the government out of the hands 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.320 of Labor Greens and the tills, I will do that. 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.680 There's no problem about that. I'm not just targeting coalitions 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:25.000 and seats. I will be standing candidates across one hundred 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.760 and fifty seats plus the Senate, and therefore I am 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:31.840 attracting those labor voters as well. So I'm pulled up constantly. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:33.480 People say I was staunch labor voter. 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:34.000 No more. 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.880 I'm fed up with the Labor Party or even the Greens. 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.400 Some people said I voted Greens. I'm not following the 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.920 Greens anymore. So people are slightly waking up to what 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.200 one nation stands for and looking at our policies as 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.040 far as the policy is and saying that we don't 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.520 have policies. I'm always complaining, Well, the Coalition picked up 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.600 my policy about the fuel excise tax. Morrison did it 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.680 for six months and I forced him to do that. 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.720 Plus also in the last election they picked up about 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:02.520 fuel excise tax. The superannuation scheme using the money for 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.880 your home loans, that was one nation policy before the 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.840 Limbs came out with it. So even the foreign investment, 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.040 ownership of homes in Australia by foreign investments, that's another 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.800 one nation policy picked up by the Labor and also 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.880 the Coalition. So they say I haven't got policies when 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:21.160 they're constantly picking up my policies and the ideas is ridiculous. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.000 And I'll put this point in when I had the 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.760 shared balance of power under Turnbull and Morrison, the minister 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:31.080 in the coalition Liberal said to me, Pauline, we've got 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.600 good policies, but working with you has improved our policies 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:38.760 because you've actually have helped us improve our legislation. Now 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.160 that came from Minster. So they're not they do want 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.080 to work with me because I know Dan well. We 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:48.280 are beneficial to them because we research, we've got good policies, 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.000 we're in line with the Australian people. 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:52.760 Look, it's going to be interesting to see how it 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:56.000 plays out, especially given that commentary by them today. Now 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.200 I've got to say, you return quite emphatically to the 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:02.240 Senate this week after that the burker ban you entered, 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.920 you took about, you gave your fellow colleagues a wave. 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:07.840 I think we've got that vision, will bring it up. 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.399 But there you are entering the Senate there. I mean, 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.359 I wonder how happy they would have they were to 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:13.240 have you back Senator. 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.840 But I mean, whole lot has changed. 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.600 I've got to say since you were suspended, hasn't it. 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:22.760 There's been BONDI, the gun laws, the hate speech laws. 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:28.679 It's a very very different set of circumstances. It has. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.360 What's happened since I was banned in the late November 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.000 I think it was twenty fifth and November to what 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.679 it is today, so much has happened, and I was 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.679 really upset that I couldn't be on the floor Parliament. 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.280 I asked Alban Easy to actually take the ban off, 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:42.919 so I could be on the floor in Parliament to 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:47.000 discuss it. No word whatsoever, that's up to the Senate. Well, 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:50.000 he didn't tell Penny Wong. Penny Wong could have actually 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:54.400 said okay, we'll lay her back in, but they didn't. Janika, 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.520 we need that strong voice in the Senate, and they 0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:01.400 cut down debate on that hate speech laws. Nats followed 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:05.240 our lead with it and not supporting the hate speech laws. 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.600 So we actually brought up a lot of the issues 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:11.240 in that legislation. They weren't aware of, either of the Libs. 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.680 So we actually led the way again with the hate 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:14.639 speech laws. 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.040 Yeah, and I mean, now, look what's happened with the 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:17.879 hate speech laws. 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:19.600 The coalition split because of. 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.119 It, and you know they are back together today, but 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.160 it's a very very different face of the Parliament this year. 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.719 I want to ask you about just into Nampa jimber Price, 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.760 the Liberal senator. She's ruled out a switch to One Nation, 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.119 even though she told the Daily Telegraph today that she 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:36.880 had been sidelined by the Liberals. Had you been actively 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.639 pursuing her, Are you disappointed that she wouldn't make the switch. 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:45.720 No, I haven't spoken to her personally about coming across 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.320 at all prior to the last election. Before prior to 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.560 her being a senator, I did ask her if she 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.520 would stand for One Nation. At the time she didn't 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.640 respond to me. But then it was very shortly after 0:18:56.680 --> 0:19:01.080 that that he joined up with the Nats for the 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:03.919 Northern Territory. So she's going to find it difficult with 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.600 the next election because now she switched to the Liberal Party. 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:10.440 She's up for reelection the next selection next time. So 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:12.440 where are they going to put her. I don't know. 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.560 No Liberal senator is going to move aside for her 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:18.639 to run in their seat, and I'll have to find 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:20.639 her a safe Lower House seat if they want to 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.359 keep her on. She's going to be in dire strait, 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:24.680 so I think she will struggle. 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:27.239 Yeah, we'll be interesting to see how that plays out. 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:28.199 We're almost out of time, but. 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:30.360 I've got to ask you about this. Let's talk about 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:31.200 Abdul Rivesey. 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.920 He's the former Deputy Secretary of the Department of Immigration. 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.359 He's launched this attack on you on social media, saying, quote, 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.800 Pauline left school at fifteen without completing high school. He 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.119 was responding to comments that you made about skilled and 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:47.160 non skilled migrants. When I saw this senator, but I thought, 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:48.560 here we go. I mean, this is the man that 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.760 once headed up our migration program. I'd also make mention 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:55.280