WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 27 November 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:04.480 General Man. Welcome the Late Bay. 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:07.240 Well, thanks for joining us. 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:11.000 I'm James Macpherson, with Joe Hildebrand and Liz Storer coming 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.280 up tonight. The Trump Dance has become even more popular 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:16.480 than the Macarena. We might even be able to get 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:19.920 Joe Hildebrand to do it a bit later. Plus, when 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:22.520 we look at the papers, Sydney residents told not to 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:26.680 wash their clothes or their dishes in order to conserve power. 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:30.040 I thought this was a first world country. And the 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:33.640 front page of the Canberra Times tomorrow details which government 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:37.640 department has increasing levels of harassment and bullying. We'll share 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:39.440 that with you a bit later when we get to 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:40.560 tomorrow's news. 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:42.440 But first some good news. 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.000 Should we dream for a moment that the woke mind 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:49.640 virus might just be on its deathbed. According to Pew Research, 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:53.800 fifty two percent of American workers have been trained in diversity, 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.720 equity and inclusion at a cost can you believe it 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:01.680 of eight billion dollars a year to industry. But DEI 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:06.760 policies popularized in twenty twenty after the death of George Floyd, Well, 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.400 they're starting to be wound back as people get sick 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:13.360 to death of being pitted against each other. Walmart is 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:18.800 the latest corporation to announce they are completely abandoning DEI policies, 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.280 and this is not a tweak. This is an absolute 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.640 overhaul of all of their policies. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:24.760 Here's what they've announced. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.160 They've announced that they will close down their Equity Racial Center, 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.840 which they established in twenty twenty at a cost of 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:32.160 one hundred million dollars. 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:33.360 That's gone. 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:35.880 They've said they're no longer going to take into account 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:40.680 the racial and gender mix of suppliers when ordering contracts. 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:44.640 They've said they're no longer going to monitor LGBTQ plus 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.360 inclusion in their workplace. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.440 But more than that, they're going to. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.880 Review the sponsorship of all Pride events, so they're not 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:56.480 financially supporting anything that sexualizes children, which basically means they 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.960 won't be supporting any Pride events. And on top of that, 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.560 they're reviewing all of their products and getting rid of 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:06.880 anything that sexualizes or promotes trans and non binary products 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:11.200 to children. Now bear in mind walpart Walmart employee one 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.440 point six one point eight million Americans, So this is 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.280 a big deal. But they're not the first company to 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:22.320 do this. The Ford Motor Company Low's, Boeing, Harley Davidson 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:26.000 have all announced prior to Walmart's announcement that they too 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.200 are abandoning DEI principles. 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.640 So, Joe and Liz, here's my question. Is this because 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:33.160 of Trump? 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.680 Or was this already happening and Trump kind of tapped 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:40.800 into a groundswell that existed already and is growing stronger, 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.520 not just in America but maybe here in Australia as well. 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:44.320 Dare we dream? 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:48.400 I think this was definitely already happening, as these companies 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:50.880 just came to bear with what they were actually doing 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.000 and going what are we getting out of this? It's 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:56.280 certainly not floating with our base. On top of the 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.880 companies that you've already listed, there's John Deere, tractor supply, 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:05.280 Molsen cause Jack Daniels, I think they've just realized we're 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:09.200 spending all these money on this DEI initiatives. It's simply 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:13.120 not floating with our customer base and perhaps just the 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.880 general question of what are we doing this anyway? Like 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:19.920 John Deere is a tractor company, what interest do you 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.080 have in DEI in preaching to people, whether it be 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:27.960 your employees or your clients, your customers about this kind 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:31.080 of thing. Also, what helps really get this on the 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:35.240 nose is a new study by a place called Network 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:41.680 Contagion Research Institute NCRII in America. They've done some study 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:46.040 on these DEI practices, which are very prolific, not just 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:47.480 in workplaces but in. 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.040 Schools, in universities, very. 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.920 Much in America and as we know here in Australia 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:53.480 as well. 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.960 So here's the guy who headed up this study. His 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:58.280 name is. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:00.480 How do you know it? 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.000 To him, Liz Finkelstein, he said. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.320 What we did in this study was we took a 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.840 lot of these ideas that were found to still be 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.000 very prominent in a lot of these DEI lectures and 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.320 interventions and training, and we said, well, how. 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.200 Is this going to affect people. 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.640 What we found is that when people are exposed to 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:24.479 this ideology, what happens is they become hostile, without any 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:30.560 indication that anything racist actually happened. These findings from this 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:36.760 research were so shocking and forceful that the author'smedia automatically 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:40.600 they'd use three hundred and twenty four participants in the 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:44.479 original piece of work in which they gave some people 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:49.760 just to completely race neutral piece of text on corn 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.040 of all topics to read, and then they gave other 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:58.560 participants these really race baty articles by well known Kendy 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:03.000 and DiAngelo, who you are really big on all things racism. 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:06.480 So they got all these participants together and then they 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:11.680 gave them a completely race neutral scenario in which a 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.640 student is rejected from college, and they ask for. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.040 These people's responses. 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:25.360 Well, the research was absolutely comprehensive. The implications of these 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.479 findings can simply not be downplayed. 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.560 The research clearly showed that instead of. 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:36.320 Achieving equality dismantling systemic oppression, which is what all these 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:41.960 dei tichboxes are supposed to be doing, they may well, 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:49.279 in fact be deepening divisions and this cultural resentment between races. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.719 So well done to all the corporations spending eight billion 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:56.000 dollars a year on this rubbish, you may well be 0:05:56.240 --> 0:06:01.679 undermining the very cause that you claim to be promoting. Now, 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:06.599 this research was, like I say, so comprehensive, so decisive. 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.440 The researchers couldn't believe it, and they said, okay, let's 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:09.880 go again. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.159 Let's go again. We'll do the exact. 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:16.000 Same thing, but with almost three times the amount of participants. 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:20.359 So this time they got together just under a thousand people, 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:25.440 much much bigger set of participants there, and they found 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:30.080 exactly the same thing. They got exactly the same research 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:31.400 data back. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:32.799 I think it's. 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.720 Absolutely incredible as well that this research has been suppressed. 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:38.880 The New York Times refused to. 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.920 Touch it, despite the fact that they had over twenty 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:48.440 times previously publicized the ncri's findings on other research that 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.919 they'd done, and Bloomberg just turned around and said, not 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:52.800 on your life. 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:54.919 The editor was like, I'm not touching this. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.960 We're all about DEI, So god forbid we let people 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:03.800 know that in fact, research shows this stuff ain't even working. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:07.400 Not only is it not working, it's undermining the very 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.160 causes we think. 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.200 That we're achieving. It's just incredible, Joe. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:15.000 Nobody wants to admit familiar it is incredible. 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.200 I mean, I suppose what the report's right to get 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.440 out is that if you are if you are told 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.880 that racism is absolutely everywhere and that you've got to 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.240 be hypervigilant and look for it everywhere because it is 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.040 everywhere and you just haven't been seeing it before, then 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.679 obviously you're going to see it everywhere. And the problem 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.320 with seeing it everywhere is then you miss it when 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.560 it actually matters, and when it's so. This is the 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:39.240 whole problem with anything to do with identity politics or 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:43.440 race based politics. It doesn't address the disadvantage that someone 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.000 may or may not be suffering because of their race. 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.440 It just means that you see racism everywhere, and you 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.880 are more likely to see all this racism and in 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:55.320 it experience all this racism if you are alive to 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.200 awake to or if you will woke to the racism, 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:04.560 which means that it is usually the most overprivileged, tertiary educated, affluent, 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.960 well educated people and I use that in air quotes, 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.960 who feel the most racially oppressed even though they are 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.960 in fact the most privileged of their race. 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:15.680 Typically so. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.880 So that is why it is completely perverse and backward, 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.640 and it's why I think we should always see things 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:25.200 in terms of disadvantage instead of seeing things in terms 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.440 I've raised them and saying, all right, who is worse off? 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.120 Who is really sorry? Now, there's no question that, for example, 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.160 there are Indigenous communities in Australia that are terribly disadvantaged 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.760 and have horrible outcomes in terms of violence, substances, health, 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.720 educational outcomes, job opportunities, all that sort of stuff. But 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:44.520 you focus on those disadvantages and you fix them rather 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:48.640 than saying, okay, well, because this terrible disadvantage is happening 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.640 in will Kenya, we better make sure that we're not 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:57.240 racist to you know, you know, affluent indigenous people who 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.520 just happen to be indigenous but living in you know, 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:04.040 say in a city Willara or Glebe or Newtown or 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:08.360 North Kirk. And so the whole problem with seeing things 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.600 through the lens of race, through the lens of color, 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:14.120 is it actually ignores disadvantage. And that is why it 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.560 is so attractive to the new Left, if you like, 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.760 so the West East and West Coast elites, because they 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.960 can claim disadvantage, they can claim oppression that say, I've 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.640 been you know, hi, I'm from MSNB, say and I'm 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.120 discriminated against because despite the fact i own three hundred 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.520 thousand dollars a year, I'm black. Where instead of ignoring 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.120 the fact that there are heads of disadvantaged people who 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:38.160 are not getting a look in because rich, privileged elites 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.880 are soaking up all the oppression for themselves because they're 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:41.959 the ones who are alive. 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:43.600 To it and can see it everywhere. It's a sickness. 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.520 The other problem with DEI is it teaches people about 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.880 race to the point of obsession. So then you get 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:50.840 people who are obsessed with race. Well, what do you 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.240 call someone who's obsessed with race? 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:56.280 A racer? And so I wrote a column for the Australian. 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.760 Newspaper because, as you guys know, I've got twin boys 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.320 who were born in Ethiopius. They're black, and I wrote 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.800 a column for The Australian saying that the biggest thing 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.160 I'm trying to protect my kids from is not from racism, 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:11.240 it's from imagining racism is everywhere. So the whole diversity, 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.480 equity and inclusion stuff is terrible for my kids because 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.160 what it does is it would teach my black children 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.280 to be hyper sensitive about race, and then it would 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.480 teach everyone around them to be walking on eggshells because 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.640 you know, don't look at them sideways, because they'll interpret 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.040 that as you're looking at them sideways because they're African, 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.280 and it actually brings a division. So my kids are 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.560 hyper aware. In this scenario of a fence, you don't 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.760 want to offend them, so you keep your distance. They 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.280 interpret that as well, you're keeping your distance. Obviously, because 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.680 I'm black. So the whole thing snowballs, and it just 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:46.600 creates more and more division when the intention was supposed 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.719 to be to bring people together. So the best way 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.040 to end racism is just to stop talking about race. 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:52.600 That's right. 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.600 Martin Luther King said it judge a man by the 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.520 content of his character, not the color of his skin. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.360 It is pretty effing simple. And all the great crimes 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.240 that have been commit when people didn't do that, when 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.520 they said, because you are this race, because you are 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.360 a different color, that is what makes you different, and 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:07.400 we have to treat you different. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.600 I've got to turn you flying the same principle. 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:11.840 Lot of times in our apartment building, my boys will 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.560 comment on the fact that the older people when they 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:15.520 get in the elevator with them, they look at them 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:17.040 a little bit like, and I said, well, you're six 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.400 foot two and you're black, and you're athletic, and there 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:22.160 are older people, so they might I said, what happens then, 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.400 and they said, well, we smile and say hello, and 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.240 I said we'll end. And they said, well, the older 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.640 people instantly melt and they love us. And I said, exactly, 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.280 because they're getting to know you. 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:32.520 And that's the point. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.800 You don't get to know someone based on their melanin 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:36.800 or their sexuality or whatever. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:38.520 You get to know them as a human being. 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:42.520 I mean, I've got a few people based on their sexuality. 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.720 God Joe every time. Every time, it. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.320 Was Morgan Freeman who said, if you want to end racism, 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.720 just stop talking about it, stop talking about race. I 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.760 think you hit the nail on the head to the 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:59.079 UK now where MP's in the House of Commons are 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:04.000 about to decide regarding a bill on Friday which will 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.240 decide the future of assisted suicide. 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.680 In the UK. It's the first of its kind. 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.200 These guys have racked their brains for weeks now as 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:15.439 to where they stand on. 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:18.080 This morally fraught issue. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:22.720 But imagine you're just tubing around London, as pretty much 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:28.160 everyone does, especially you come across what has now been 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:34.040 dubbed as the Westminster death Tunnel. These have been hung 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:39.360 throughout the walls of the Westminster Tube station. My dyinglish 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.800 is my family won't see me suffer and I won't 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:48.800 have to. These ads were put up by dying in Sorry, 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:49.920 dignity in. 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.520 Dying, because of course, unless. 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:55.200 You're offering yourself, where's the dignity if you're just leaving 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:59.040 it up to mother nature. I mean, seriously, I do 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.280 not understand the brains behind such marketing ploys. 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.600 The big question is who funds these people. 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.880 I couldn't find that out, and I'd love to know 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:11.960 if anybody else can, because this would have cost an 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.400 absolute motza. 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:16.880 It's a really. 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:20.840 Strange marketing ploy right because right now this is before 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.520 the House of Commons, So the only real people that 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:29.200 you should be targeting if your pro assisted suicide are 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:30.120 the people. 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:34.559 In the chamber. Why would you be advertising. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:38.920 This, this pro death culture in a society which already 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:43.199 has a serious suicide issue. This is true sadly across 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:44.520 the West. 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.480 Why on earth would you be promoting this? 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.000 And I was very heartened to see today that people 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.480 from the Samaritans have come along and slapped their little 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:57.400 signs on top of these huge billboards. The Samaritans are 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:01.200 a charity which supports people suffering emotion or distress, struggling 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:05.400 to cope, or are at risk of suicide. So they 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.679 wanted to make their presence known and be like, hold up, 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:13.320 while you're encouraging people to off themselves, we want to 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.720 encourage people to stay alive. As long as possible, and 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.080 if they are struggling, give us a call. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.120 We are there for them. Now. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.120 I can understand people who are very pro this issue, 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.880 wanting to write submissions or contacting their local MP. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:29.560 But this isn't that. 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:35.400 It's literally promoting amongst society, this pro death culture, and. 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.040 Of all the places to promote it in the Tube, 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.280 which is a well known place where people go to 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:44.200 end their lives. There's been sixty eight suicides and or 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:48.280 suicide attempts in the London Tube in the past twelve months. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:53.280 So can you imagine having a sign there promoting volunteer 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:56.440 suicide or assistant suicide where they call it these diet days, 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:00.200 where you've got people actually contemplating ending their lives. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.000 On top of that, the Transport. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:07.000 For London organization which approves ads in the Tube, say 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:10.200 they will not approve ads or images or messages which 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.880 relate to matters of public controversy or sensitivity. 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:14.080 And yet they've approved this. 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.840 But it gets even more outrageous because you're not allowed 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:21.720 to advertise fast food in the Tube because it's unhealthy. 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.640 There was a comedian ed Gamble I share how ridiculous 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.880 this is. A comedian ed gamble. Just a little more 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.000 than a year ago, he was advertising a stand up 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.240 comedy show he was doing and in the advertisement for 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.920 his stand up comedy show, he's holding a hot dog. Well, 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:38.440 that advertisement was not approved because you can't advertise hot 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.040 dogs in the tube. It's not healthy. There was an 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.000 ad for a weight loss and it asked women, are 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:48.160 you beach body ready? And Sadik Khan, the Mayor of London, 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.120 said nobody should feel pressurized while they travel on the 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:55.960 tube into unrealistic expectations surrounding their bodies. So you can 0:15:56.000 --> 0:16:00.640 advertise assisted suicide in the tube, but you can't advertise 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:01.160 with Big. 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:01.600 Mac and coke. 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.680 There's a big difference there, James, and you know it. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:07.600 I mean, you can advertise euthanasia and that's a legitimate politically. 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:09.560 You can advertise euth in asia in the tube, but 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.600 your advertised fast food. I mean, let's be serious, fast 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:12.320 food could kill you. 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.160 That's exactly the irony, Joe, you pointed it out. 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.040 Although I have to say, but why are they turning. 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:20.560 A blind eye to this? 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.280 Why does Saidik Kahan get all up at you about 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:23.880 fast food? 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:25.880 We all know, but it's just will tell me why. 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.200 We all know what, because because people don't find things 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.960 controversial if they agree with them. And so if you've 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.480 got an electorate, a constituency like London, which tends to 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:36.680 be apart from. 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:37.960 The glorious years of Boris. 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:41.320 Johnson, that tends to be like in a city, in 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.960 urban constituencies right around the world in the West anyway, 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:49.800 they're very progressive and they you know, can't like I'm 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.640 sure you know, if he was living in Australia, all 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:53.720 his friends would have voted for the Voice, if he 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.680 was living in the US, or none of his friends 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.000 would have voted for Donald Trump, and so he'd be thinking, oh, well, 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.080 this is nothing controversy about this. This is what ninety 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.800 percent of people think. But that is why again, that 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.359 is why they put these things out there instead of 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.480 targeting MPs directly, because if you have just people bombarding 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.359 MPs inboxes with stuff that spam, but if you are 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.199 getting people like us to talk about it, but more 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.320 importantly getting people in London to talk about it, and 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:18.840 they are then talking to their MPs. So when their 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.600 MPs go and talk to their constituents this sort of 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.119 thing is brought up, they think, oh, this isn't just 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.320 a letter writing campaign. This is a real issue in 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.399 the community. In the community, and so they take it 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:30.600 more seriously. But I have to say the first thing 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.399 I thought when I saw this and I said my 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.360 dying wishes this was someone just sent me a message 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:39.440 on Instagram. Paul said, I have two dying wishes. One 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.520 is I want my remains to be spread around Disneyland, 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:47.200 and two is I don't want to be cremated. 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.680 I just this may well backfire on proponents of euthanasia 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:55.000 because advertising it publicly like this before, as you said, 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.120 it seemed, and to do it in the tube where 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.280 people do tend to go to take their lives is 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:04.159 just unbelievable. Let's stay overseas, but go to France for 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.000 a moment you might remember. Back in twenty twenty, a 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:11.520 thirteen year old Muslim girl accused her classroom teacher of Islamophobia. 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:16.200 She said that during class he held up pictures of 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:20.919 a Charlie Hebdo magazine that showed images of Mohammed, but 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.200 prior to doing that, he sent all of the Muslim 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.640 children out of the class. Now she complained to her 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:30.760 father and mother about Islamophobia. They went online and started 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:34.520 the campaign against the teacher, which resulted in the Muslim 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:38.760 community getting very upset. Eventually, an eighteen year old Chechen 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.880 migrant got a knife, tracked down the teacher with help 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.320 from some of the students, and publicly beheaded him. 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.160 Now this was a few years ago. 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:52.200 Eight people have been charged with being accessories to this murder, 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:53.440 and they're now on trial. 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:55.879 But here's what happened just this week. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.160 The thirteen year old girl who made the accusation, she's 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:03.040 now seventeen. She's admitted in court she made the whole 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.040 thing up. She lied about it because she had been 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.760 suspended from school for two days and was scared her 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:13.080 parents would be upset with her, so rather than tell 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.159 them she'd been suspended, she told them the teacher was 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.439 Islamophobic and had kicked all the Muslim kids out of 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:23.480 the classroom. She made a public apology in the courtroom 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.240 this week, saying, I would like to apologize to the 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:30.040 family of slain teacher Samuel Patti, who, as I said, 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.240 was publicly decapitated. 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.280 She said, I'd destroyed your lives. I am sorry. 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:40.760 She's been given eight months of probation for slander, but 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:45.520 this is just an unbelievably sad story, but beyond sad, 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:49.920 it highlights the danger we now have in Western countries 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:54.720 where you've got unchecked immigration, where you've got these different 0:19:54.800 --> 0:20:00.320 cultures living in ghettos, where you've got the accusation of 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:07.119 Islamophobia that can result in some people starting to become violent. 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:11.040 And this is not an isolated incident. Think about Batley 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:14.320 Grammar in the UK, where a teacher was accused of 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:19.760 showing Charlie Hebdo magazine images of Mohammed. He was doing 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:23.520 it for a six ethics class, and immediately there were 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:28.240 demonstrations for days outside the school. The school publicly apologized, 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.600 the apology was read by police. Can you believe it 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.879 to demonstrate us to try and shew them away? There 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:36.439 were death threats against the teacher. He's been in hiding 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.639 with his wife and four children for the past three 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:43.040 years and is still in hiding to this day. And 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:46.360 I found about another three, just really quickly, another three examples, 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.640 so we don't have time to go into but you've 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:53.720 got school teachers who are petrified now of talking about Islam, 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.479 of talking about basic ethics as to whether or not 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:59.600 you can show an image because of what happened to 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:03.800 this teacher in France and to adssault to the wound. 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:05.360 The whole thing wasn't even true. 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.639 She wasn't even in that classroom of the teacher she 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:10.080 accused of being Islamophobia. 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:14.119 Here we have these Western countries that have allowed radicals. 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:16.840