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Speaker 1: Coming up on.

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Speaker 2: Relatables, really learn how to be a supportive partner and

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Speaker 2: an equal partner and the things that women are really

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Speaker 2: looking for.

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Speaker 3: Relatable The Relatable Podcast by myself, Addie Clark ak Mom

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Speaker 3: and my partner in crime is the Jake Craig Ak Daddy,

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Speaker 3: Daddy and Baddius. This is a serious episode because we're

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Speaker 3: raw dogging we're raw doggan. What do you do as

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Speaker 3: parents when you have.

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Speaker 1: Unwrapped, lubed up raw dogginger?

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Speaker 3: I wish you didn't just say that, because I was

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Speaker 3: going to say, what do you say when, like, if

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Speaker 3: we had a son, we had to sit him down,

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Speaker 3: have a tough conversation about him and his actions.

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Speaker 1: Oh what's he done? You'll find out? I thought you

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Speaker 1: were going to talking about the sex chat. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that too. Yeah we could throw that in there everyone.

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Speaker 1: The Birds and the Bees and the tds, the Birds

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Speaker 1: and the beat. What's it called the Birds and the

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Speaker 1: Bees for? I don't know did you ever have that chat? Really?

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Speaker 1: My parents never had that.

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Speaker 3: It was so awkward. Ay, my dad didn't know what

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Speaker 3: to do. He didn't have a scooby do.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember.

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Speaker 3: I remember he like I was like.

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Speaker 1: He didn't have a Scooby Doo. Yeah, haven't you heard that?

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Speaker 3: Saying really, nope, he didn't never Scooby do what was

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Speaker 3: going on? I've been using that heaps lately. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: you haven't, Yes, I have, because it's because you don't.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard you.

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Speaker 3: That's because you don't hang out with me enough anymore.

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Speaker 3: Canceling session in play Nah so bad. He's within the

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Speaker 3: world is the manisphere?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I thought you were going to talk to me about

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Speaker 1: Scooby Doo skibby Do.

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Speaker 3: I love Scooby Doo Shaggy and that that was my favorite.

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Speaker 1: But he doesn't. And I just don't think that's the

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Speaker 1: saying yes.

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Speaker 3: It is he didn't have Scooby do what was going on?

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Speaker 3: Like it's when something someone or something doesn't understand what's

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Speaker 3: going on, like say someone was.

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Speaker 1: Trying to like it.

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Speaker 3: Someone was trying to park a reverse park and they

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Speaker 3: did it three times and then left because they couldn't

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Speaker 1: Doesn't have it. He doesn't have a Scooby Do like it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I haven't you heard that. I didn't come up with it.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could claim it instead of saying he

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Speaker 1: hasn't got a clue. Yeah, he hasn't got a Scooby Doo.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't got a Scooby do. What's going I fucking

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Speaker 1: like that.

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Speaker 3: I swear it's a full full saying.

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Speaker 1: I'll ask my dad.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's a bit older old nos like that.

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Speaker 1: Your parents would no, they would know.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know where I got it from. Maybe

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Speaker 3: I should claim it. I'm going to cut it, and guys,

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Speaker 3: I've got new saying. When people don't know what's going on,

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Speaker 3: they do something dumb. They don't have a Scooby doo.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? I love it.

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Speaker 3: Scooby Do, Scooby do, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: You've heard it? No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, you just made that straight from the sauce, mate,

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Speaker 3: you made straight.

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Speaker 1: From the bottle. Yeah, that's it. When but Australians say sauce,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like sauce sauce.

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Speaker 3: I'm a catch up man. Yeah, and like if anyone

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Speaker 3: tells me different, that catch up and tomato sauce tastes

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Speaker 1: They don't taste the same.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I full proved my girlfriend wrong, made her blind test

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Speaker 3: both of them forced it and I'm kidding and she said, oh,

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Speaker 3: catchup taste better, and it tastes different, and then she goes,

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Speaker 3: they taste the same.

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Speaker 1: Though, I'm like, how how be proven wrong?

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Speaker 5: So you were like, see, here's the thing. It's like,

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Speaker 5: at what point in time do you say, let me

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Speaker 5: prove you wrong? But I'm sure it felt pretty good.

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Speaker 3: She still doesn't admit it. It's like because it's a

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Speaker 3: tough one though, because tomato sauce obviously does the job.

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Speaker 3: Still like, I'm not going to say, notice in tomato

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Speaker 3: sauce if it's no sauce or tomato sauce taken the tomato

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Speaker 3: so sauce a bit sweet. But when you have catchup

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Speaker 1: I used to be tomato sauce, but I'm ketchup now. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Same so so was I I feel like and once

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Speaker 3: you go there, you can't go back.

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Speaker 1: Once you go, you can't go Yeah, it's filling the gas.

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Speaker 3: It's the same way. Once you go Pepsi max, you

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Speaker 3: can't go back to coke zero of course.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and once you go you can't go filling the

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Speaker 3: Well, interesting start, I might say, yeah, yeah, yeah, this

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Speaker 3: is constructive criticism for men. The relatables voice mails with

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Speaker 3: the prompt being how can men do better? Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: we got sent I'm going to say, over two hundred

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Speaker 3: of the baddies saying things that men could do better.

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Speaker 3: And I thought this would be a great episode. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to say, well, it's coming straight from the source.

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Speaker 3: Where else the tomato sauce, the bottle. Yeah, it's coming

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And what better place to improve as a man

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Speaker 3: than hearing what you could do better in a constructive way.

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Speaker 3: We're not attacking, we're not saying your shit. Well that

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Speaker 3: you are, but you're not actually that shit, and you

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Speaker 3: can do better because there are some good men out there.

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Speaker 3: But it's also insightful to see it from a different

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Speaker 3: gender's perspective.

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Speaker 1: I think, I think so yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And what I was going on with before, especially in

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Speaker 3: the lot of the World is the manisphere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we watched that documentary. We watched that documentary, and

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Speaker 1: obviously one word to describe that.

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Speaker 3: If I had one word and you had one word

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Speaker 3: three two one, revolting, that was close.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I wanted to say hard watch like it

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Speaker 1: was a hard but it was revolting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's so many key issues that I think

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Speaker 3: will just naturally come out in conversation. You know I'm

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Speaker 3: serious about is when I bring the laptop out instead

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Speaker 3: of the phone. So I've got do you want to know

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Speaker 1: I do? I would love to know meyboard? What yourn?

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Speaker 1: I'm you're working me hard? Ten? Ten? I got ten?

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Speaker 1: Let's go. How can men do better?

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Speaker 4: I'd say consideration is really underrated, Like very rarely do

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Speaker 4: How someone would just really like put the best interest

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Speaker 4: of others, even in like the smaller moments, just like

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: So, Yeah, I think that's something that would be really

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Speaker 1: So mindfulness towards consideration.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and to everyone, Hey, I feel like even I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a big issue within the world and

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Speaker 3: being considerate of how someone else is feeling or what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe try to be a bit more of an impath.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think because I don't know, especially with the world.

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Speaker 3: We said it in last Raw Dog, it's a hard place,

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Speaker 3: then you feel so miniscal and your problems feel like

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Speaker 3: they're nothing, but then they're so big to you, and

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Speaker 3: like everyone's got their own problems. But then you're like,

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Speaker 3: care about your problems? It's just it's a balancing act

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Speaker 3: and if you can really practice empathy, it's a great

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say consideration. Let me think, I guess

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Speaker 5: consider ration, like she was saying, just in the small moments.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of men.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, I've been pretty guilty of it in

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 5: But little things like put the soil to toilet sit down. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's a small, small, minuscule considerate things, barely considerate, but

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Speaker 3: The little things in but the little things that up, Yeah, like.

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Speaker 5: Put your dish in the dishwasher, or I don't know,

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Speaker 5: put your lawn.

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Speaker 3: Tell what pieces me off? Little people shopping and then

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Speaker 3: they just leave their trolley in the car park. Lazy motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: Ah, I've done it recently. Really, it was piercing down rain,

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Speaker 1: was considerate. I'm leaving it. Guess what, you're a man?

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Speaker 1: I am a man. Yeah, you know, I am a

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Speaker 1: Man's coming to a realization. I just woke up. I

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Speaker 5: You you're woke. Best took it back though.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about. A great example, YEA.

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Speaker 2: One thing men can do to be better is to

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Speaker 2: go to therapy and learn how to be better supportive

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Speaker 2: think that's something that sometimes men don't know. They think

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Speaker 2: that they can just like ask these basic questions, but

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Speaker 2: really learn how to be a supportive partner and an

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Speaker 1: For, love it supportive and equal. Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 3: How many men do you think don't know about their partner?

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Speaker 3: Oh a lot, Yeah, you would say.

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Speaker 5: Like us included, there's probably things we don't know.

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Speaker 3: I was even thinking we I feel like this might

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Speaker 3: be a good way to break down these voice messages.

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Speaker 3: Is like a surface level way to think of it,

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Speaker 3: and also a deeper way I reckon even a lot

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Speaker 3: of men wouldn't even know about the female anatomy. Yeah no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: no no no no, that wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I find that wild?

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Speaker 3: Like I was n was naive, still probably have a

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Speaker 3: lot to learn. I don't want to put myself on

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Speaker 3: a pedestal, but also feel that's wild.

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Speaker 5: Look, yeah, I'm trying to think here there's no real

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Speaker 5: excuse for it, but I guess it's just like a

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Speaker 5: would be so like.

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Speaker 3: It's a bigger problem in a sense of it should

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Speaker 3: be schooled or like an individual learns on their own terms.

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Speaker 1: That's a good question. I don't actually know.

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Speaker 5: I think I would say I only know about it

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Speaker 5: from girlfriends.

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Speaker 3: I'd take girlfriends on this podcast.

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Speaker 5: I can confidently say that the reason I don't know

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Speaker 5: out of curiosity, if that makes sense, Like the reason

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Speaker 5: I know it is because I was told Yeah, not

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Speaker 5: because I was like, how many days is your cycle?

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Speaker 1: Or what is this phase and what does it mean?

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Speaker 5: I think the thing I took from that about is like,

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Speaker 3: That's interesting as what I took from that, like morally,

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Speaker 3: especially like watching that doc and like I knew those

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Speaker 5: Legit bro also right, So there's like one of the

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Speaker 5: he's saying, you know, you're not a woman.

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Speaker 1: Women are born. Women are born with beauty, They're born

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Speaker 5: Yeah, women are born with value. Women are born being

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Speaker 1: It's like when did we get there? Like what are

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Speaker 5: And also in what world are you living in where

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Speaker 1: We live in a patriarchy. What the fuck are you

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, it's the moral compass of its preying on young, impressional,

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Speaker 3: and everything like that. It's kind of disgusting. It's kind

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Speaker 1: Okay. Also, like, how can anyone think like.

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Speaker 5: This with this documentary all the men that we're in it, right, Like,

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Speaker 5: so my question would be like, where are you finding

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Speaker 5: Coming from knowing that you are convincing all these young

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Speaker 1: Right, And then like they also.

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Speaker 5: All scam other people to make money and then live

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Speaker 5: this lavish life and say that they feel really fulfilled. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: And it's like, but would you be fulfilled without the money,

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Speaker 5: they don't have anything. No, if that made their whole

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Speaker 3: Like, they wouldn't have anything. Yeah, and even that life

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Speaker 3: that they're portraying online isn't real. No, Like they're saying

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Speaker 3: that men's worth comes from making something for themselves, monetary business,

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Speaker 3: whatever it is. It's all lives if aside the airban

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, a it is.

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Speaker 5: It's so weird it all right.

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Speaker 6: Next one apparently cleaned their asses.

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Speaker 1: Are studies that are.

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Speaker 6: Shocking where men don't clean their asses in between the cheek,

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Speaker 1: But please you can't quote me, like please.

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Speaker 3: Wash your ass yo, good tip. But I just say, men,

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Speaker 5: Here's my question is like she said that with a passion.

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Speaker 5: it's like, how many men's asses have you eaten to

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Speaker 5: have needed to say that?

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Speaker 3: Even if it's eating gone down there?

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Speaker 1: What the is that?

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Speaker 7: Yo?

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Speaker 1: That's been crazy? Have been eaten a lot of cheer

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Speaker 5: Dude, they're not stuck, but like I just want like

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm a bird. Like, I'm a bird,

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Speaker 1: I eat s, I'm a bird. You live a different

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Speaker 3: I'm literally what kind of bird?

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Speaker 1: If you could be a bird? Yeah, genuinely what birds?

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Speaker 1: No cockta is actually pretty cool? Loud, very loud, scary.

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Speaker 1: Maybe take that back here. If I was a bird, pigeon, nah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're a pigeon. Yeah, let's move on. You're a pigeon.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy, as you know you're a pigeon.

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Speaker 1: Anyone you would be a pigeon.

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Speaker 5: I was a bird, I'd be a cassowerry and I'd

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Speaker 5: hunt you down, and I'd tell.

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Speaker 1: You I'd be an. I'd just run away. Brother.

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure as is going to catch the fastest

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Speaker 5: and I'm pretty sure is going to catch.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it a cassowary?

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Speaker 5: That's a Peacockses are like dinosaurs, Bro, big ass legs,

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure a cassowary is catching a fucking emuay.

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Speaker 3: I getch, Bro, it's like the same thing as that.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, cow's a little bit wrong. They do have

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Speaker 1: Case that's a fifty. It'd be the brother they like

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Speaker 1: the same bird. That's fucking right. It'd be tight race.

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Speaker 1: But I'll have you.

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Speaker 8: I think men need to understand that we don't care

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Speaker 8: few days. Like, that's not why we're out here. Many

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Speaker 8: need to understand that we are looking to find a

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Speaker 5: Oh damn, that's valid.

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Speaker 1: It's such a good way to put it. At the end.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like imagic. Okay, men, this is where I'm talking about.

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Speaker 5: This was that baddie that said something back? Consideration Like

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Speaker 1: You're a woman.

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Speaker 5: You make your own money, you pay your own bills,

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Speaker 5: you're independent, you're a man. The thing you think you

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Speaker 1: She looks after herself. What's she gonna get? Personality? Fucking

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Speaker 3: Have good morals, have fun, be your own person.

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Speaker 3: It's such a simple concept, though, it really is. I

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Speaker 3: And now they're in a position, it's a beautiful position

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Speaker 7: Honestly, I feel like men, Okay, not all of them.

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Speaker 5: Some men just.

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Speaker 7: Inherently view women being like overly dramatic and emotional and

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Speaker 7: And it's just it's really pervasive. So yeah, it's kind

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Speaker 1: Pervasive the week? What does that mean?

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Speaker 5: Sorry, I took other things from that. Pervasive is pervasive?

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you one thing. I know for a fact,

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Speaker 5: you know more than I do, that would take you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you look it up I guess it

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Speaker 3: lot of them. Seriously, that's not all men.

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Speaker 1: True.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's easy to say it's not all men, isn't it?

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Speaker 5: She said it just the she Here we go?

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Speaker 3: Okay, go, what does pervasive mean? Assuming someone's value, it.

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Speaker 5: Means something is spreading widely and thoroughly throughout, something present

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Speaker 5: everywhere with a given space or group. So you're wrong

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Speaker 5: that she's right to say it's pervasive, that it's like.

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Speaker 3: A thing, that it's like an ever growing problem.

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Speaker 5: So like you could say, example, social media has a

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Speaker 5: pervasive influence on modern culture.

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Speaker 1: Ah, excellent, sense smart? Bad? Yeah how about bad?

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Speaker 5: He's like, I feel like what happens is the baddies

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Speaker 5: like high brain power jobs, just absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Fucking ship up.

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Speaker 5: And then every now and then they just think, yeah,

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Speaker 5: couple of idiots just like chat for an hour.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, do you reckon? They they're thinking

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Speaker 3: that majority of them are like, oh I wonder what

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Speaker 3: I can't even say pervasive.

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Speaker 5: Means no, no, no, no, they had they listened to

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Speaker 1: Alright, all the.

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Speaker 5: Batteries listening, listen to what that baddy just said, and

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Speaker 5: then thought, I can't wait to hear what and then

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Speaker 3: Dipped their heads and they were like, I saw a comment.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that was it, but it was on

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00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: Patreon and it was something that our audience loves about us.

441
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 3: I can't remember what they said about me, but they

442
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 3: said with you, they love you. ADHD makes them fun,

443
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: makes them feel what, It makes them feel more normal,

444
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 3: that they're not alone because like all the baddies A

445
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: right here D. Yeah, yeah, I think it's a very

446
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 3: relatable thing. And I think, like you, I like that.

447
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 5: I think I'm like I point zero of what ADHD no, no, no, no.

448
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: No question to the battery.

449
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 5: Should I try and get tested, like I feel like

450
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 5: I get through life relatively. I have like here's what

451
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 5: happens to me is like I could have three weeks

452
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 5: of like pretty blissful life and then I could have

453
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 5: like a week of like.

454
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 3: May I reckon, you're high on the ADHD s Galway.

455
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: You last week on the raw dog. You were telling

456
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: a story and you completely missed the kicker because it

457
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 3: involved your dog. And then you went on a side

458
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 3: tension of how your dog killed a bird. Yeah he did, yeah,

459
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: yeah he killed And there was like a seven minute

460
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: story and I'm there sitting there patiently trying to get

461
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: back to like the topic at hand, and then you

462
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 3: were just like odd man, this fucking dog dude, Like

463
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,479
Speaker 3: he's like, adhd isn't a bad thing?

464
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 5: Nah?

465
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

466
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: I reckon.

467
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 3: It'd be interesting to like go along the journey of

468
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 3: you getting tested.

469
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 5: He's the thing is like, will a doctor take it seriously?

470
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 5: From like, look, I'm pretty sure I have that I

471
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 5: functioned quite well, but I just want to know a

472
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 5: good doctor. Would I feel like you're paying.

473
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: Wait a second, don't. Isn't it like seven hundred bucks?

474
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my girl friend did that. I don't know.

475
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: It's another DIAGNOSI hasn't done it because it was seven

476
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 3: hundred dollars. Fuck a bit of a rigamar roll of

477
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 3: its seven hundred dollars tax right off?

478
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: But what if I got meds? Wait? What's it called for? Advance?

479
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

480
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: What if they gave me a prescription.

481
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 5: What if they were like, Jake, we've watched you for

482
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 5: a couple of days here, like they get you to

483
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 5: go in every once in a while to do some.

484
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: Tests or whatever. Does your brother that nah? And then

485
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: my younger brother in Canada does that's what it was?

486
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 3: You've gone that soon?

487
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,719
Speaker 1: I am going.

488
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 5: But imagine they just go like, oh, look, Jake's been

489
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 5: a couple of days, like yeah, you need this, you

490
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 5: need this, And.

491
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: Then I just come to the podcast a different human.

492
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 3: I hear some people say it changes their life, and

493
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 3: then other people say that it sucks.

494
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, some people don't like it. I don't feel like themselves.

495
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: They don't feel like themselves. It takes away they're spark.

496
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 3: Then some people were like, I've never been able to

497
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 3: concentrate like this. My life is like I've got so

498
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 3: much time back.

499
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: I tell you what I actually think.

500
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 5: I desperately need it when I'm working, like actually working

501
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 5: at a computer.

502
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, working at a computer is hard.

503
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 5: Right here, right now, ADHD it up, But like sitting

504
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 5: down and getting shit done, I need fucking because I.

505
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: Think everybody has a little bit of ADHD.

506
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 5: I have to.

507
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 3: It's just a label. And I definitely have seen people

508
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: with a bad scale of that. But I also think

509
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 3: a lot of creativity and a lot of beautiful things

510
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 3: have come from the presence of ADHD.

511
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 5: Is the worst thing to happen to ADHD? The person

512
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 5: that says, but it's beautiful, that's.

513
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: A good question, is it not.

514
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 7: I don't know.

515
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 3: I reckon the worst thing? Oh no, I was going

516
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 3: to say, that's that's a bad take. Is like, I

517
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: feel like there is a big what's it called how

518
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 3: peptides are coming about?

519
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: A bubble?

520
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 3: No, maybe it's like everyone wants to go on peptides

521
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: at the moment.

522
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a what's the worst trend? Yeah, trend.

523
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: I feel like there's also a trend of like, oh,

524
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 3: I've got ADHD. That happened, Yeah, I think and I

525
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 3: feel like that was the worst thing that happened for

526
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: ADHD for the people who actually.

527
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 5: Have it, true, people that have like debilitating yeah, debility, Yeah, yeah, trend?

528
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: How did you for get the word trend?

529
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: That wasn't the word I was looking for. I was

530
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 3: looking for a big one didn't come to me.

531
00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 9: Take accountability, like, don't make excuses even if it's something small,

532
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 9: Like all I want is you tell me, Hey, no,

533
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 9: I see where you're coming from. I get it, Like

534
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 9: I'll do better next time, or like now I know,

535
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 9: thanks for letting me know, Thanks for you know, just

536
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 9: expressing your feelings to me.

537
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 5: That's it.

538
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: That's good accountability.

539
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 8: You know.

540
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 5: What I actually have been working on a bit lately

541
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 5: is not trying to defend myself.

542
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: Right, So like taking accountability.

543
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 5: But like, have you ever been in a situation where

544
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 5: someone asks you to do something and then you're like,

545
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 5: like five minutes ago, you were like thinking about actually

546
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 5: doing that, right, Like you actually thought like you had

547
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 5: the intention of doing it, you just hadn't got to

548
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 5: it yet. I find the like at the emptiest string

549
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 5: of words is oh yeah, I was actually going to

550
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 5: do that, you know. Yeah, Like even if you had

551
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 5: the intention and someone has asked you to do something

552
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 5: like a pointless statement, it's the most pointless statement.

553
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, just fucking take accountability.

554
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 5: And then next time, when you had the intention of

555
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 5: doing it, just do what is it like, and don't

556
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 5: sell someone you're gonna do it, Like, don't say I

557
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 5: was going to.

558
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: Buy you flowers?

559
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 3: Example, is that the example I was going to buy

560
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: like I was like the dishes are there, I was

561
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 3: about to do that anything like that could be one yeah,

562
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 3: or like I don't know, maybe say your girlfriend is

563
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: kind of like, we haven't been on many dates lately,

564
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 3: and then you're like, literally the other day, actually has

565
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 3: I was thinking about taking you on a day?

566
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: It's like that doesn't mean anything, that doesn't mean a thing.

567
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's also I guess valuing what the other

568
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 3: person is saying.

569
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, like if she feels or he feels.

570
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 3: Like we haven't been going on many days, but then

571
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 3: you go, I literally took you one on two weeks ago. Yeah,

572
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: I'm feeling like I haven't been on a dad Like,

573
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: you're right, Yeah, you're all right, you're right, and then change,

574
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 3: Oh it should be you're right. When should the next

575
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: date be? You want to go on a date with me?

576
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: Not when teller?

577
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, when you're dating you actually got to like skate.

578
00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: That's a good point.

579
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 8: I could list many things, but I see I've got

580
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 8: a max duration time of five minutes, So I'm going

581
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 8: to be quick and simple and.

582
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: Just say they could at least stick to their word.

583
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: Oh I love that. Stick to your word. Stick to

584
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: your word.

585
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: Hey, I feel like a lot of people slash men

586
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: don't do that a and such a good skill and

587
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: trait to have as anyone.

588
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's really good.

589
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 10: I like that they can start by actually liking women

590
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 10: because if they really like her, then it's done. Everything

591
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 10: will be okay, everything will be all right if they

592
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 10: actually love her.

593
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: Oh valid, bro, I feel like is a lot of

594
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: men who hate women?

595
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

596
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, the pud yeah, a little bit of patriarch and

597
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: they only see women as objects or oh question, So

598
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: you know how the word so misogyny means men that

599
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: hate women?

600
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then I've learned that missandry is when women

601
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 5: hate men. Okay, but like misogyny is a word because

602
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 5: men hate women for no reason? Yeah, how does like

603
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 5: it is miss andry really even like a word? Because

604
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 5: women hating men is a reaction to men hating them.

605
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: It's a good question. I don't know, I've never heard

606
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: of that before. Yeah, miss andry, yeah, out of no way.

607
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: It's a good question because it comes as a reaction,

608
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: not a result.

609
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it comes as a reaction, not just like

610
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Yeah.

611
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: And you also don't see like fuck it seems so

612
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: black and white in a sense of you don't see

613
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: thirty old women taking advantage of adding the nine any

614
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: old women with courses and praying on their emotional insecurities.

615
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 5: Why is that so true?

616
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why is that so true?

617
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: It's such a male dominated field and like okay, okay, ready,

618
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: this is crazy.

619
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 5: The documentary The Manisphere, right, is like going and kind

620
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 5: of following these men that claim to be like in

621
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 5: the manisphere, and like the manisphere is a good thing,

622
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 5: and it's like that there's nothing out Like a woman

623
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 5: being as much of a woman as she could possibly

624
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 5: be is like the the best thing. I don't even know,

625
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 5: you know what I'm trying to say. How it's like

626
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 5: it would be a compliment to a man for someone

627
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 5: to be like, you're the most woman a man could be,

628
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like you're the.

629
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: Most woman a man. Like that's a compliment.

630
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 5: And then like if someone was to say to a

631
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 5: woman like, god, you're you're you're like a man, like

632
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,959
Speaker 5: that's that would be hurtful.

633
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not trying. It's a weird thing.

634
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get what you're trying to say. It's weird too,

635
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: because men are like in that documentary, especially those women.

636
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: Two of them got caught out with their partners who

637
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: like the men are saying two when didn't they Yeah,

638
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: two men got caught out. Sorry in a sense of

639
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: like they put this facade online to pray on young

640
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: vulnerable men. But then also they kind of did have

641
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: a woman who's being a beautiful woman by their side

642
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: behind closed doors. It was really interesting dynamic. And then

643
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: when they obviously got called out a little bit in

644
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: those ideologies like I don't even know what it is

645
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: when you have what's it called when you have he

646
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: can have sex with other people but she can't.

647
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: They called it one way monogamy.

648
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, one way monogamy. Yeah, it's not a thing. And

649
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: then it comes up to the partner and she's just

650
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: like on TV, oh right, yeah sure. And then I

651
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 3: dare say the cameras go off there in bed and

652
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: he goes, oh, I just said that for the cameras

653
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: they can make more money.

654
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Weirdest thing.

655
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: It's the weirdest thing ever. Control a lot of it

656
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: I've saw.

657
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of.

658
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 5: There as a lot of comments saying like that they

659
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 5: think the documentary was very surface level. I thought that

660
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 5: as well, and it is surface level. It was hard

661
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 5: to document that though. And but here's the thing as well,

662
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 5: as like, I think that it was surface level on

663
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 5: purpose because all of us, you know, everyone kind of

664
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 5: jen out for gen Z like they know that it exists,

665
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 5: and like louis through, I'm not, I don't.

666
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if it is surface level. If it's not,

667
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

668
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 5: But I saw one person saying that, like, we actually

669
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 5: aren't really the target audience. The target audience is people

670
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 5: that actually haven't heard of.

671
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: This, So it's like education.

672
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an educational I was thinking, as someone who

673
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: had a surface level of knowing what's going on, that

674
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: they could have gone a lot harder on them. The

675
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: only influence on I knew was HS Tiki Talkie, and

676
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: I felt like they didn't put him in their place enough.

677
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's his goal.

678
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 5: I don't think he wants to Like, all he wants

679
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 5: to do is try and get into their world, talk to.

680
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: Them, and he's amazing at it.

681
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 5: He's amazing at talking and asking questions and then just

682
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 5: shutting the fuck up and letting them talk their way

683
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 5: into the deepest grave and realizing themselves that what they're

684
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 5: saying is insane and then try and dig themselves out

685
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 5: of it. It is the most insane thing to watch.

686
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 5: He goes to hit okay, so Hstoki hates Bonnie Blue right,

687
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 5: thinks she's disgusting, revolting, gross, blah blah blah, And so

688
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 5: Lewis Thru's like, oh, so you you you hate her?

689
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 5: Why do you interview her? And is like TikTok. He goes, oh, clout, mate, clout,

690
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 5: and he goes, okay, cool. He goes, well, he said,

691
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 5: I joined your telegram actually, and you you promote that

692
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 5: porn and only fans and all these things is revolting

693
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 5: and gross and and hs TikTok. He's like, yeah, yeah,

694
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 5: it's gross, mate, gross.

695
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: And he goes, well, then you have.

696
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 5: In there you are promoting only fans pages for them

697
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 5: to go and pay and watch, and hs tik Talk's

698
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 5: like yeah, yeah, Like I don't have to like it,

699
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 5: but I'll profit off it. And so then and then

700
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 5: lu three goes, you're not far off being Bonnie Blue then,

701
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 5: and he likes tiktoki saw red from that. He's like,

702
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 5: what are you talking about, mate, Don't say that.

703
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: Don't don't compare me to her. That's gross. Don't compare

704
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: me to her.

705
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 5: And he's like, what's the difference between her saying that

706
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 5: she's doing everything she's doing right now, whether it be

707
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 5: right or wrong, her decisions don't matter because her children

708
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 5: are going to have a good future and not two

709
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 5: seconds prior, fucking hs Tiktoki is saying that his kids

710
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 5: are going to be like very fulfilled and have a

711
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 5: very good future. And then HTKK just getting norm mad

712
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 5: like doesn't know what to say, and lu thre goes, you're.

713
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: What's the word you're rationalizing it like.

714
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 5: Just because like just because you say you don't like it,

715
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 5: like you're rationalizing doing the wrong thing. Even asks him,

716
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 5: he says, have you ever considered doing the right thing

717
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 5: being a good guy? And h tiki TALKI goes if

718
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 5: I was a good guy, I wouldn't be where I am.

719
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 3: Which is facts crazy and what men do rationalize their

720
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 3: scenarios with other toxic men. They get in this kind

721
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: of like wolf pack mentality with a bunch of irrational

722
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 3: men who have the same ideologies about women, wealth, views, politics,

723
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 3: everything like that, and then they all get in this

724
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: little bubble and they think that that bubble is right

725
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: and they don't really understand what's going on in life.

726
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: But then they put their opinions to the broader public

727
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: and they start to cause a movement, which is a problem.

728
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 5: And when lu Through first meets HS Tiki TALKI, he

729
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 5: goes in and h Tiki TALKI has I think maybe

730
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 5: a girlfriend at the time, and he introduces her to

731
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 5: lu Through as the dishwasher, right, and she's laughing.

732
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: And she's like yeah, and lu Through is like what

733
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: the fuck?

734
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 5: But he shakes it and he says, I'm nice to

735
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 5: meet you, like I think maybe I've seen you on

736
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 5: TikTok and stuff like that. And then he straight away like, oh,

737
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 5: so what do you like about his name's Harrison. She

738
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 5: says what do you like about Harrison? And she goes,

739
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 5: here's money. Yeah, and like you could see in the

740
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 5: kind of laughs it off like oh yeah, mate, he

741
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 5: was hope by yeah, he was like, actually hope like

742
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 5: that affected him. He would obviously say to anyone that

743
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 5: it doesn't, but like that actually affected him to and

744
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 5: like imagine, literally the only thing you have going for

745
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 5: you is your money because everything else about you sucks.

746
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if we said in this episode or

747
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: the last episode. But no one cares. Yeah, no one

748
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: cares how much money you have. No one cares how

749
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 3: nice a car is, like how you are as a person.

750
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, by all means, if you have a lot

751
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 5: of money and you want people to know, you can

752
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 5: post that shit. You can post the car, you can

753
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 5: post the money, you can post the lifestyle. But if

754
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 5: you're also posting promoting being a shit human, that's fucked up.

755
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: Like be a good.

756
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 3: Person number one, that should come first.

757
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we have one more.

758
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 10: There's so many things that man could be doing, but

759
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 10: one of them is pressing me off to day stop

760
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 10: sexting me.

761
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: Free mesters in to us mutching on a dating app.

762
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 8: I was on a.

763
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: Fucking day flat with me a person, dude.

764
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 5: Valid, Okay, Sexting is something that happens way more than

765
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 5: we think. Yeah, obviously it needs to be all consensual

766
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 5: or whatever, But like I have never done unbeknownst, I

767
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 5: was unbeknownst, especially prior to this podcast, how normalized it was,

768
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 5: which is crazy.

769
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

770
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: It's just not a good idea. Once again, showcase your personality,

771
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 3: have a really good time. It's not about the sex.

772
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 3: Sex is an added perk of getting to know someone

773
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 3: and connecting on another level.

774
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: Do you think you could confidently.

775
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 3: Like, let's say, I couldn't do it to my girlfriend

776
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: of three years right now, to send a dick pic.

777
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, no, that's what I'm saying. I'm

778
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: not talking about that. I'm not talking about senate news.

779
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 5: I'm talking about sending her like you know, all I've

780
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 5: been doing is thinking, like starting off like they've been, Like,

781
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 5: all I've done is think about you all day and

782
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 5: like I'm not gonna lie, like I'm pretty hard right now.

783
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 5: I think then really like get the build up that

784
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 5: you sext a bit before you see her, then you

785
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 5: see her and like give her a kiss, and then

786
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 5: like you really build up the four play for the

787
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 5: whole day, Like I've never done that.

788
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: I have never done that either. I think the way

789
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: I would do it, I could do it in a

790
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: very PG manner. Yeah, I couldn't do it in like

791
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: dirty like what I'm going to do to you tonight

792
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 3: or like.

793
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: This would be this would be audio.

794
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 5: He'd be like, not gonna lie later, I'm gonna fucking

795
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 5: nibble on your lips No, I would ever say that.

796
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 5: The clip of you saying that you're like, I've been

797
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 5: inviting you on the lips, and then so many of

798
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 5: the comments were like my sweet sweet boy, my dear

799
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 5: sweet child.

800
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: I would go down the avenues of like I've been

801
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: thinking about her, how beautiful she is, how much I

802
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: want to see her, how much I want to kiss her.

803
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: That's boring, that's boring. Yeah, but that's I want to

804
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: kiss you all over. True. I would say that. I

805
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: would say that, Yeah, everyone, what would you do?

806
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: Oh?

807
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. You wouldn't do it at all.

808
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: But if I couldn't, col I could try. You could

809
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: surely you would say, oh, like I'm keen to see like.

810
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 5: True, it would have to start off slow because I

811
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 5: wouldn't be able to confidently go on and be like

812
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 5: I want to bend you over and again.

813
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't.

814
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 3: And also, someone that you've never seen before, and you're

815
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 3: saying that too, is crazy.

816
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: Have some of rapport?

817
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: Brother, Yeah, yeah, that's true.

818
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: Respect Like two messages in on a dating app.

819
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose they're showing their intentions early, which is crazy. Well,

820
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: and I guess, as two men, what do we do

821
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: in life to portray a healthy masculinity.

822
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 5: That's a great question because one of the big things

823
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 5: I saw about this ministry documentary is like he focused

824
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 5: that people were saying he leu through focused a lot

825
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 5: on the bad men, but like and he said in

826
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 5: the thing, like, you know, young men need better role models,

827
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 5: and then a lot of people are saying, like.

828
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: Well, Louis, where are they? So it's a good question.

829
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 5: It's like, I don't know, Robert Irwin, if you're a

830
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 5: young man, everyone share this with your young friends.

831
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're a man in general, Robert looks like

832
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: a good.

833
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 3: Man, lead by example, and yeah, I get be more vocal.

834
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe be more vocal.

835
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 3: We're not very good at portraying our views and emotions

836
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: when they are showing healthy masculinity, we kind of just

837
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: keep quiet being more vocal and showcase that a man

838
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: can have masculine and feminine traits and still be a man.

839
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: You don't have to be toxic and ruling to be

840
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 3: a man. And I think it's just betraying yourself and

841
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: being I don't know, I think a lot of like

842
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 3: because the worst copout is saying there's a lot of

843
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: there are a lot of healthy men out there, but

844
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 3: those men go under the radar.

845
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: Quite a lot.

846
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think now we obviously we've said lots. So

847
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 5: our audience is ninety percent women. Yeah, maybe ninety five

848
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 5: percent women. So ninety five percent of the people listening

849
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 5: to this are women, and not that this is a

850
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 5: women's issue, like this is a men's issue that needs

851
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 5: to be fixed. But I guess like with our platform,

852
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 5: the only thing we could say is if you're a

853
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 5: man or a woman listening, like.

854
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: Just being more vocal would be good.

855
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 5: Maybe to younger people you know or friends of yours,

856
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 5: you could recommend just like call them out and recommend

857
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 5: someone else to watch.

858
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

859
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think standing by what you know is right.

860
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: Don't let the sly misogyny go.

861
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: That's what happens micro misogyny.

862
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: Say hey dude, that's wrong. Yeah, hey dude, that's not on.

863
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: Explain to him how I said, person who's getting cat

864
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 3: call might feel makes him feel unsafe. Ah, all these

865
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: things that add up over time. Yeah, don't let the

866
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 3: micro aggressions kind of add up.

867
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that, I would say, and let

868
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: us know more.

869
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, like were coming missing the market, but like no,

870
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 5: I would say, something I'm guilty of.

871
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: In the past is.

872
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 5: Staying friends with a friend group that I don't know,

873
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 5: Like our whole friend group when we were younger was

874
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 5: honestly probably just like pretty gross and like fucking just

875
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 5: like had shitty views. And it's like if you are

876
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 5: in a friend group like that, it's just like, if

877
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 5: I could go back, I would say, there's like multiple,

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Speaker 5: multiple times where it's like there would have been chances

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Speaker 5: where anyone could have been like no, no, that's that's

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Speaker 5: not right, but everyone's too scared to do it. And

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Speaker 5: like that's the thing is, like what are you scared

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Speaker 5: of it? You're scared of losing your friends, and it's

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Speaker 5: like why do you want to be friends with them anyway?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 5: But it's hard to like talk about a problem when

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Speaker 5: you don't know the answer to the problem. But I

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Speaker 5: think it's also when the answer is easy. That's the

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Speaker 5: hard thing. Is like it's hard to talk about a

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Speaker 5: problem when the answer is easy. But also not if

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Speaker 5: that makes any sense because the answer is easy, don't

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Speaker 5: be a fucking dick.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, But it's also good to talk about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: needs to be spoken about.

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Speaker 5: Yea.

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Speaker 3: It needs to be spoken about and coming from a

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Speaker 3: place of learning and acknowledging that there's an issue and

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Speaker 3: we want to we want to help change that.

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Speaker 1: How can we change that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's kind of I guess like one way,

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Speaker 5: one thing in the right direction is better role models.

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Speaker 1: I would say that's definitely one answer. No, I agree.

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Speaker 3: All right, Bad, This was a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: different episode.

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Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed it. Yeah, we love you, stay bad

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Speaker 10: And