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Speaker 1: Appogiae production. Welcome back to another episode about I a

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Speaker 1: Bad Mom podcast, another season after school holidays, school's gone back.

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Speaker 2: School is technically into term three turn three.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: That means that your girls have technically got one to

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Speaker 2: six to go, six terms and they're.

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Speaker 3: Out of school.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, six terms.

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Speaker 3: Just the terms.

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Speaker 2: If we break it down into terms, six terms and

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Speaker 2: your children have finished school six terms and you are

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Speaker 2: no longer paying school fees, oh my god, it be

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Speaker 2: so nice. This is groundbreaking for most parents.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've already made it clear. Right If there is

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Speaker 1: talk of UNI, I know that we should be encouraging

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Speaker 1: our kids. And my kids don't want to go to UNI,

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Speaker 1: so I'm fine with that. But if they did, I

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Speaker 1: have talked to them about hex data and I've talked

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Speaker 1: to them about what's involved with that because UNI's expensive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is these days. It is very expensive. Actually,

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Speaker 3: I think it's always been.

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Speaker 1: This is a controversial thing to say, especially in Brisbane

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Speaker 1: where we live, because I feel like where you go

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Speaker 1: to school and all that kind of stuff is such

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Speaker 1: a big thing for the pool here.

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Speaker 2: I've been told it's to Sydney thing too, Like I

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Speaker 2: went to school in Townsville. I'd never had anyone come

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Speaker 2: up to me and go, Hi, I'm Susan. I went

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Speaker 2: to Saint Rita's cool bro like I'm Rachel. I went

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Speaker 2: to school too, went to school.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like a status thing. I really don't like

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Speaker 1: it because we both went to state schools. Nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: with us.

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Speaker 2: No, not, I'm being a little bit wild around the edges,

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Speaker 2: but absolutely okay. But I'm kind of with you on

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Speaker 2: the HEX thing because I feel like, and I'm only

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Speaker 2: saying this from my own experience, because if I wanted

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Speaker 2: to attend UNI, my parents never said do it, do it,

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Speaker 2: do it, or you must do it. They were just

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Speaker 2: more like, if you want to, and that's your thing,

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Speaker 2: by all means, go to UNI.

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Speaker 3: But you be paying your wait, yeah, and I think

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Speaker 3: it just.

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Speaker 2: Gives you like a little bit more maybe like, oh shit,

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Speaker 2: I really have to finish this because I'm paying the

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Speaker 2: bill at the end of it.

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Speaker 1: But I also think there's a lot of people that

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Speaker 1: go to UNI because they feel like they should, and

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Speaker 1: they do courses that I feel like, you don't need

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Speaker 1: to have a UNI degree for these days. Again, this

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Speaker 1: is controversial, but if you want to be a doctor

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Speaker 1: or a teacher or something that you have to have

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Speaker 1: a degree for fully get it, Like, yes, go to UNI,

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Speaker 1: H go to UNI. I actually did go to Unirah.

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Speaker 1: I didn't finish the course. I was a dropout, but

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Speaker 1: I did go to UNI and I did journalism and

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Speaker 1: then I went on to be a radio presenter for

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Speaker 1: years and years. Did I need that journalism qualificare? I

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Speaker 1: didn't get the qualification anyway, But did I need that

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Speaker 1: in order to you need order to do the Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I needed to do. I needed

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Speaker 1: to go down, I needed to hassle the receptionists, and

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Speaker 1: then I needed to end up doing promo, driving around,

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Speaker 1: putting castickers on people's cars.

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Speaker 2: So I would probably classify you more as a hustle.

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Speaker 2: You need agree to be a hustler. I think it's

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Speaker 2: like pick and choose, pick and choose.

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Speaker 3: I think for me, I was like after school. I

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Speaker 3: enjoyed school for what school was.

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Speaker 2: I got good marks when I finished, but I was

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Speaker 2: sort of like, oh, I just want to earn money. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So I was a lot more money driven in the

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Speaker 2: sense of like I just want to earn my own cash.

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Speaker 3: I want to buy a car I want to do.

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Speaker 2: Like there was always that whole you know, you work

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Speaker 2: hard for your money, you work hard, you play hard.

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Speaker 2: That's probably a bad habit to I've learnt from my parents.

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Speaker 2: But then I went to UNI for about eight months

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Speaker 2: and then was like, oh, I was considered a mature

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Speaker 2: age student. Un he's not fun as a mature age student. No,

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Speaker 2: not what I was thinking. I was sort of anticipating,

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Speaker 2: like I wanted the college parties.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to when I was.

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Speaker 2: Going to like hang out with the cookies or I

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Speaker 2: was going to be a part of the UNI.

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Speaker 3: And then I was like, oh, this is actually this

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Speaker 3: actually sucks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a very expensive way of just going

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Speaker 1: to all the parties.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was going to go and get a teaching degree.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was going to do. And I ended

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Speaker 2: up going just getting a coaching degree. That's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: You were going to get a teaching degree.

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Speaker 1: But you hate children? Yeah, I know. Am I a

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Speaker 1: bad mom or not knowing what to do? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've hit rock bottom with the whole

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Speaker 1: lunch situation with my children.

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Speaker 2: Is it because they're not eating in general, or they're

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Speaker 2: just like can't be bothered doing their own.

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Speaker 1: Both On the weekend, right, they said, what have we

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Speaker 1: got for lunch? And like my auntswer normally is what

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Speaker 1: are you making for lunch? Yeah, there's like the eye

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Speaker 1: roll and then I go, okay, cool, Well I bought

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Speaker 1: some fresh rolls this morning from the bakery. I stood

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Speaker 1: in the kitchen and I made everybody's lunch and I

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Speaker 1: put love in it. I even made like a homemade

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Speaker 1: thousand dialand dressing rate because I was like, Josh, cheese

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Speaker 1: and salad, like the pickles and the this and that.

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Speaker 1: Just a side note, I'm going through a stage of

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Speaker 1: being like our sauces that you buy in the shop

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Speaker 1: are a full of shit, being not very good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe this is your side hustle. You

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Speaker 3: can start selling sauce. We're going to be making sauce

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Speaker 3: out of this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a hundred of z time into this.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kinda coming to it coals near you watch

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Speaker 2: this anyway, Like I googled it, I was like that

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Speaker 2: shit's easy peprika bit of mustard.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, put love into the lunch is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And then I watch them nibble a little bit and

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Speaker 1: then put the rest in the bin. And I've said,

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Speaker 1: there is nothing that I love more than spending time

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Speaker 1: making food expensive food.

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Speaker 3: I was just going to say, mate, if I saw

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Speaker 3: that rind the bin, I would have lost.

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Speaker 1: And then watch it go in the bin. I was like,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? Oh, I've eaten most of it.

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Speaker 1: No you haven't. You've had a little nibble. Now you're

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Speaker 1: throwing the rest away. I have just stood there and

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like a very big deal ill in

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Speaker 1: the grand scheme of life.

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Speaker 3: However, what is when they're at you? Yeah, I was

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Speaker 3: gonna say, just.

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Speaker 1: Watch your through just it's like when they watch.

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Speaker 3: Your home cash.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and open up the lunch box and just like

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Speaker 1: throwing it all back in the bin. I say to

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Speaker 1: them often. I was like, hey, you know that money

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Speaker 1: you've got in your bank account, how about you just

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Speaker 1: stand in front of the toilet and just throw it

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Speaker 1: in bit by bit, throw it away. Yeah, because that's

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Speaker 2: Well, I think at the end of the day, Katie,

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Speaker 2: I look at that and go, you're also being disrespectful

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Speaker 3: I've gone out of my way to make you lunch,

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Speaker 3: and now you're throwing the bin. It would tick all

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Speaker 2: And it's just like standing in front of you and

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Speaker 2: getting like your fifty bucks and just like lighting it

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Speaker 2: up because I mean, you're loaded, aren't you. You are

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Speaker 2: rolling in it. In their eyes, you are rolling in cash.

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Speaker 2: And doesn't worry about mum. That's what she wants to

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Speaker 2: be doing on a Sunday. She wants to be standing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and watching you throw it in the bin. I

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Speaker 2: It is so destroying, and they don't even know that

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Speaker 2: they're doing it. And then they're like almost at that

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Speaker 2: point where they're like, oh, it doesn't matter, no, but

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Speaker 3: It does matter. It does.

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Speaker 2: I have to give credit where credits to you, and

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Speaker 2: I don't do it very often and it might only

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Speaker 2: be for a short time.

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Speaker 3: I was just doing the touch wood. The girls are

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Speaker 2: I think I've been such a stickler and I know

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Speaker 2: that you were the same. Maybe I'll shift with age,

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Speaker 2: I guess, but like, if you're not eating it, now,

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Speaker 2: put some clatter up over it, eat it later because

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Speaker 2: I'm not getting out more shit. Because like my girls

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Speaker 2: are exactly the same in the sense that they're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: not really feeling it right now, but like thirty minutes

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Speaker 2: out of fridge. That is so wasteful, Like that's good

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Speaker 2: fresh produce, like salad, fresh rolls. They just don't understand

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Speaker 3: You don't understand it right now, but you will later on.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that don't get to even

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Speaker 2: have the freshness of food. Yeah, and they go, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have two minute noodles from my whole entire life.

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Speaker 2: You go on, but you really wouldn't You know that

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Speaker 2: feeling when you go away for a holiday and you're

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Speaker 2: like eating just like holiday food for like a week,

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Speaker 2: and you just go, if I see another fucking French fright,

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Speaker 2: which is big for me to say, if I see

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Speaker 2: a bowl of salad or veggies or something like that. Yeah, Mike, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: my kids were like that coming off of the back

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Speaker 3: They'd been away.

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Speaker 2: I hadn't seen them for like a week in a

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Speaker 2: bit and they come back and they're like, oh, mom,

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Speaker 2: we just want your the food that they're so maybe

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Speaker 2: accustomed to, but also like it makes them feel full

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Speaker 2: like inside, do you know, like that feeling of the

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Speaker 2: love part that you were talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because like moments like that remind you

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Speaker 1: that you're doing a good job, and they actually do

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Speaker 1: value it like that is important. Something similar, different lines.

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Speaker 1: But Amelia said to me the other day, I love

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Speaker 1: it when you work from home. And I went, what

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Speaker 1: do you mean? She went, because I come home the

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Speaker 1: house is tidy, the washings all put away, because when

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Speaker 1: I went from home, I don't have the travel time.

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Speaker 1: It's just little you can stick washing on, Like I love.

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Speaker 3: Feeling Like yeah, got establishment. But I was like, oh, isn't.

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Speaker 1: That interesting that she mentioned that? So actually she does that.

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Speaker 1: She notices that she comes home to a clean and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing, Like they're the little things

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Speaker 2: day setting, but then in the overall, like the big

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Speaker 2: picture is that they're obviously noticing it, they're taking it

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Speaker 2: on board, you know, whether they're obnoxious to it at

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Speaker 2: different times, that's naturally what kids do.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what happened the other day, And this

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Speaker 1: was such a trigger for me, And I can own

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Speaker 2: That it was through your own behavior, through lengthing on

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Speaker 2: your own behavior.

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Speaker 3: You're like, yeah, I was triggered. I was feeling it.

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Speaker 1: Because Jay had cooked dinner, and then no one was

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Speaker 1: And Holly turned around and when, oh, come on, we

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Speaker 1: need to help clean up Dad's cooked dinner. We all

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Speaker 1: late dinner. And I don't know why it was such

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Speaker 1: a trigger for me. I think because I never hear

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Speaker 1: her say I was.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you why.

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Speaker 1: In the kitchen, having made dinner, cleaning up, doing like whatever.

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Speaker 1: It may be a million things, and that I literally

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Speaker 1: never get that reaction. And so then I literally spent

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Speaker 1: the next half an hour walking around the house going, oh,

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Speaker 1: we all wear clothes, we should.

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Speaker 3: Help mom with watching.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we all live in the house, we should help

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Speaker 1: with the tidy. She just were older and went, oh, Mom.

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Speaker 3: It's true. I would have been one hundred percent the same.

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Speaker 3: I would have been like, or we beat it? What

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Speaker 3: about everything else that you do?

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Speaker 2: Juddy Coo