1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Hey, there's a news story that's really capturing everyone's attention, 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: including grabbing worldwide headlines at the moment. It is the 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: trial of Aaron Patterson, the alleged mushroom cook who's up 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: on a triple murder chart. 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: Well, it's extraordinary stuff. Now. 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: She testified yesterday, and to get the latest went across 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: to a friend and colleague of my Penelopelesh from nine years, 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: one of our court reporters who is following the trial. 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: Penny Good Morning, Morning Morning, Clint, morning, Lauren. So what 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: did what happened yesterday? Because on the stand? Yeah, were 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: you surprised? 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, Aaron Patterson has taken the stand. This trial 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: has been going for twenty four days now, that's into 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: its sixth week. The jury has heard from many, many 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 3: witnesses from the prosecution, and it was after they officially 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: said we close our case that her defense barrister got 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: up very quickly and said the defense will call Aaron Patterson. 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: Now that was quite a moment in the court room, 19 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: but the judge actually said to the jury, well, this 20 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: might be an appropriate time to take a break. So 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: everyone actually left the court for sort of fifteen minutes 22 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: and then the jury came back in, and when they did, 23 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: Aaron Patterson was there. She was at the witness stand 24 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: and she was sworn in, so she took an affirmation 25 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: rather than an oath, And it was quite a sort 26 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: of a moment in the courtroom where obviously all eyes 27 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: are always on the witness box, that they were on 28 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 3: her to hear her exactly in her own words, talking 29 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: through what happened. Now, she was only up for about 30 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: an hour yesterday. What she was being asked about was 31 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 3: sort of her early relationship with her now estranged husband, 32 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: Simon Patterson, and how she was feeling physically and emotionally 33 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 3: with her relationship with his family and him at the 34 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 3: time of this fatial lunch back in July twenty twenty three. 35 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: So when you say it was a real moment, was 36 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 4: it expected that she wasn't going to get up. 37 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: It is entirely up to any accused whether or not 38 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 3: they take the stand. They have the choice as to 39 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: whether or not they do that. It's entirely a matter 40 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: for everyone in their league team whether they will give evidence. 41 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: Some people do choose to give evidence in any sort 42 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: of case. Others choose not to remain in the dock. 43 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: So it is entirely up to each individual person. But 44 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: Aaron Patterson, now she's been on this stand, I said, 45 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: for about an hour and week expects that she will 46 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: continue her evidence this morning. 47 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: So what sort of evidence have we heard already? 48 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: Penn? Obviously I've seen a few reports about her faith, 49 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: also about her relationship with her strange husband. 50 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what she was sort of taken through was 51 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: when she met Simon Patterson. She says, you know, they 52 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: met while they were both working at Monash Council in 53 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: the early two thousands, and initially it was sort of 54 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: through friends. They'd go to the group things together and 55 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: she says she was a very staunch atheist at that time, 56 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: but they discussed things like religion and politics, and she 57 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: actually said I was trying to convert him to being 58 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: an atheist, but it happened the other way and I 59 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 3: became a Christian. And she says this was after visiting 60 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: the kar and Borough Baptist Church where his uncle Ian Wilkinson, 61 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: one of the lunch guests, was preaching at the time. 62 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: She had what she called a religious experience and she 63 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: became quite overwhelmed by that. She also spoke about at 64 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 3: the time of this lunch, she and Simon, she said, 65 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: they were no longer really speaking in a super friendly way. 66 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: They weren't really bantering, they were just functionally communicating about 67 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: things like that. 68 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 4: And so do we have any idea how long this 69 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: case is going to go for? Well? 70 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: Look, Aaron Patterson, as we said, she's been called by 71 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 3: the defense as a witness, So how long she remains 72 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: on the standard is entirely up to the prosecution and 73 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: defense who are questioning her the defense at the moment. 74 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: But then there will be other There may be other 75 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: witnesses called by the defense. That's entirely up to them. 76 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: Then they'll have to be some closing. So we would 77 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 3: expect that this will continue for a week or so, 78 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: at least initially. The jury has been told five six 79 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: weeks was the estimate for the trial. We've just started week. 80 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: See pen Have you been in more Well for six weeks? 81 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: Wow? 82 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: I have any wonder the offers. 83 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: Yes, no, No, one has seen many many of us 84 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: for a while. I've been here for for six weeks. 85 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: The people of Morewell's been very kind to have all 86 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: of the media year. But it's been Yeah, it has 87 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: sort of been a lengthy trial, as often these murder 88 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: trials are, when there are a lot of witnesses and 89 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: a lot of evidence to be called. 90 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: Well, it's caught the attention of the whole state, the 91 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: whole country, and like Clint said, it's it's gathering news 92 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 4: right around the world as well. So thank you so 93 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: much for joining us this morning. 94 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: Thanks Penny. We'll see Penny's story on nine News tonight. 95 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: It's wow 96 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 3: Jason Lauren Lauren wake up feeling good following them on 97 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: the socials