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Speaker 1: docco Unbreakable is out. It's the Jolena dockeage story. Here's

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Speaker 1: a sneak peek monitored by her father. Jolena works hard,

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Speaker 2: From fairly early times, there were rumors about what was happening.

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Speaker 1: Everything they do is good for Yolanda.

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Speaker 3: Some other players had noticed bruising.

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Speaker 1: The questions were asked that they hit a pricklad.

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Speaker 4: Families, do you support you can hurt? One day after

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Speaker 4: I lost, he was extremely angry.

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Speaker 1: It is in cinemas now. Elena joins us this morning,

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Speaker 1: good morning.

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Speaker 4: Morning, good morning.

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Speaker 1: Is it hard hearing his voice and watching the footage

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Speaker 4: I've dealt with a lot of that kind of over

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Speaker 4: surprised me a little bit because I only watched it

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Speaker 4: it in kind of sections and grabs and different interviews.

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Speaker 4: It took about five years to make, especially with COVID,

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Speaker 4: So I said to the team and everyone has it,

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Speaker 4: I'll only be able to watch it a couple of

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Speaker 4: times because, yeah, there is some tough parts in it,

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Speaker 4: probably makes these documentary so powerful, is that even if

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Speaker 3: Why did you want to make the documentary? Because I

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Speaker 3: imagine opening those floodgates must have been readibly difficult.

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Speaker 4: It was, well, there's not a lot of firstly stories

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Speaker 4: it and Jess heller and who helped me write, actually

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Speaker 4: But what I did want to do though, I did

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Speaker 2: Helena, congratulations. Two books and a now documentary later. Tell

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Speaker 2: me if I'm digging too deep here, but when was

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Speaker 4: Ten years ago? To my father, No, you're not digging

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Speaker 4: I don't think we even really fought that very last time.

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Speaker 4: Is the fact that you realize someone just doesn't have

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Speaker 4: I never spoke to him about it. I did hear

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Speaker 1: So glad you've got that relationship. Now I am too,

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Speaker 4: And my answers I definitely think we would, even though

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're a child when you're going through all

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Speaker 4: Thank you. I didn't seven eight years ago, but I

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Speaker 3: Well, That's what I was going to say. There are

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Speaker 1: You're right.

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Speaker 2: Elana is one of the kindest people I know, and

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Speaker 3: Of course, because and people looked and was like, she's

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Speaker 3: Year old tennis player who is Australia want her to

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Speaker 4: Look, I was called everything, arrogant and all of this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I had to leave at nineteen because I didn't

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Speaker 1: And I knew that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just going to say, I'm sorry you

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Speaker 4: I've always and I also always loved this country. I

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Speaker 3: Imagine that prison.

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Speaker 4: No he's not. No, should he be. It's a tough

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Speaker 4: And for me, I'm very kind of My mind is

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Speaker 3: But you know, you are an extraordinary woman, and like

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Speaker 4: I think at the end of it, we want to

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Speaker 1: This doco will save lives. It is unbreakable. It is

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Speaker 1: in cinemas. Now. How long has it been since you

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Speaker 1: you reckon. I could take her, No, no, no, you couldn't.

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Speaker 4: And put it on social media.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, if you're on rod Labor Arena

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Speaker 1: These two talk so highly of you, and I've been

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Speaker 4: I love this too. We feel like I started when

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Speaker 3: I girl, I know, but he's such a different woman

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Speaker 4: Power of vulnerability which I found through telling my story.

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Speaker 4: So that's why I want to create that kind of

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Speaker 1: Because it's such a good Amazon. Who would went out

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Speaker 1: It's incidem is now. Thank you so much for coming.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good Jason Lauren, Jason Lauren wake

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Speaker 3: One hundred, Jason Lauren only good on Socials