1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: This podcast is being recorded and produced on gadical Land. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: We pay our respects to the traditional custodians of this 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: country and elders past present. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: We extend our respect to any First Nations Aboriginal and 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Torres Strait Islander people joining us. 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 2: Today, always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: Well well, well, we've got a Close Friends episode coming 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: to you on a Thursday afternoon if you're listening when 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: it goes live, we've just skipped the queue. There's no 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: Friday episode. We're getting in early because we need to 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: strike while the iron is hot. Yep, and that iron 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: being me getting absolutely robbed at the TikTok Awards last night. No, look, 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: we can laugh about it, right if you don't laugh, 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: ye're absolutely. 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: I feel you were very much prepared to lose. 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: I was, genuinely, it was so prepared, were prepared. I 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: was not expecting to win at all, and I feel 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: like our community was like backing us for the win, 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: and thank you so much to everyone who voted for us. 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: But like I said ages ago on this pod, the 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: thing with like a public vote award is it is 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: a popularity contest. And so after we lost last night, 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,919 Speaker 1: I was reflecting and like looking at all the different 24 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: categories and we're gonna spill the tea on the night 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: as well. But let me just talk about our award 26 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: for a second. So I was reflecting on all the categories, right, 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: and I said, this is a popularity contest. So there was, 28 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: for example, some categories were highest quality content and like 29 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: Video of the Year, and I don't know what are 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: some of the other ones, like Live Creator of the Year, 31 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: Live Creator of the Year, and for example our category 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: Business of the Year. But when you look at those categories, 33 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: you're not getting voted for what the category is. So 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: like calla Day won our award, but that doesn't mean 35 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: that they've won because they are the business of the year. 36 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: They won because they are the most popular and got 37 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: the most votes by their followers. Do you know what 38 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean? Like the person that got highest quality Content 39 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: of the year doesn't actually mean that they have the 40 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: highest quality content of the year, means they have the 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: most fans that voted for them. So like, it's not 42 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: really and like our community was all up in arms, 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: and I made a funny post about it, which is 44 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: on my Instagram if you want to go see it. 45 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: I think it's not seventeen thousands. That's the most likes 46 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: I've ever gotten on a fucking Instagram photo in a decade. 47 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: And everyone's commenting, which is so nice. Everyone's like, you 48 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: deserve this, You've worked so hard for seven years, You've 49 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: built this from nothing, You're the trendsetter in the business, 50 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: TikTok world, blah blah blah. I get all that, but 51 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's not a vote 52 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: for like who runs their business the best or who's 53 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: the most inspiring to other businesses. It's who has the 54 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: most amount of followers that will vote. And the Clark 55 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: family You've got millions and millions and millions of twelve 56 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: year old fans, so I don't fucking stand a chance 57 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: against that. And I'll tee another thing as well. I 58 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: was sitting at the table with the Clark family now 59 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: Cat Clark was hosting, and I will say I think 60 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: it's really unfair that someone that was hosting could also 61 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: be nominated for an award, especially when she's already won 62 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: an award in previous years. I don't know about you, Matt, 63 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: but in my mind, I think if someone's won an 64 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: award in previous years, they shouldn't ever be able to 65 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: be nominated again, like I reckon, they need to allow 66 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: space for other people to be nominated. And the fact 67 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: that she was a host gets me. And then she won. 68 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: But I was sitting at their table and Jonathan is 69 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: that the husband. He was super fucking nice, like I've 70 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: never met I've never met the Clark family, and he 71 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: was super lovely. Like we met and gave each other 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: a hug, and I was like, congrats on all your 73 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: success with the business, and he was like, oh, Like 74 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: he was like singing praises to me. He's like, anytime 75 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: we want to think of what we can do next, 76 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: like we go and look at Fate and we say, 77 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: what is Fate doing? And they're checking out our content 78 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: And I know that we're a massive inspiration for a 79 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: lot of other businesses out there, and I absolutely love that. 80 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: So there's no hard feelings at all that we lost. 81 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I was saying, if 82 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: everyone there last night lost and no one won a 83 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: single award, nothing would change, nothing would change. But it 84 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: was pretty funny to see all our community or riled up. 85 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: So you've been rolled. And then I made my joke 86 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: Instagram post. But yeah, thanks to everyone that voted, because 87 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: I know I hounded everyone here in high scrollers and 88 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: on every corner of the Internet that I possibly could, 89 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: but it wasn't enough. So everyone's gonna have to try 90 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: harder next time. Please vote harder and better next time. 91 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: But I don't think I can stand a chance against 92 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: the twelve year old fans, because let me tell you, 93 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: last night at the TikTok Awards, there were so many 94 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: did you see, like all the ten eleven, twelve year 95 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: old screaming here for. 96 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: The class really wild. I haven't seen anything like that 97 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: in this space for a very long time. Yeah. 98 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: And the thing is, like people were commenting on my post, 99 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: going who is callade? I've never heard of them? Or 100 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: like I don't get it, And I say, like, we 101 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: don't get it because we're not their target audience. Like 102 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: their target audience is. 103 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: Young kids, and the young kids are the ones who 104 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: will vote because they've got the time. I mean, we 105 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: love our audience, but we're all busy as well, you know. 106 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: I just feel like the young kids, they're voting every 107 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: single day, and I don't know, maybe some of the 108 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: scrollers forgot one or two days, do you know what, 109 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: because we've got a lot of things going on, you know, yeah, 110 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: but yeah, I also feel it's just very very strange 111 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: because take Food Creator of the Year that was Michael Finch. 112 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: Michael Finch won that award two point five million followers. 113 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: Michael Finch has love him, so happy for him. Love 114 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: it up against hue as in the chef from TV. 115 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: You know exactly, this is a thing like he's got. 116 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: Ninety k he's got ninety thousand followers. 117 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: Michael Finch's got two points in like food in our childhood, 118 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: you know. 119 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: So like, how's he going to go up against Michael 120 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: Finch with two point five million? Of course Michael's going 121 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: to win it again. Michael probably deserves it. I'm very 122 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: happy for him, but like, you can't put Hueie ninety 123 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: thousand followers up against something with two point five million. 124 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: Is a popularity test for who has the most engaged 125 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: fans and the most amount of fans. But I walked away. 126 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what I said this before as well. 127 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: We win every day at FATE, Like we have an 128 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: amazing community, we have an amazing business, Like we're just 129 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: we're winning every day anyway, and I think it was 130 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: just fun to be nominated. Will I ever go again? 131 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? I was gonna say, will you do it again? 132 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: If they next year they say do it? It's too 133 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: much hussle. That's what I too much. 134 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: Hussle and out for, especially if you fucking lose. I'm like, 135 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: fuck me, I've just promoted TikTok left, right and center 136 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: and I fucking lost. But I would say, like, I 137 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: think we need to get onto talking about the actual 138 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: event itself, because you've been three times now too. 139 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, two or three times. The first year it wasn't 140 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: an awards. Well, they had Creator of the Year, I'm 141 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: pretty sure, but the first year it was more like, 142 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: I forget what they called it, but it was kind 143 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: of just like performances and then they announced the Creative 144 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: the Year. TikTok Awards then happened last year for the 145 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: first time. This year, I will say it ran a 146 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 2: lot more smoothly this year. I think like they did 147 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: certain things like, for example, last year, the bar was 148 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: open during the whole show, right, so people were going 149 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: to the bar all night, which was obviously annoying while 150 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: you're trying to run a show. People getting up and 151 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: you know, they have ad breaks and stuff. So when 152 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: the ads were on, like Sarah V sponsors the TikTok Awards, 153 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: they had this little section. Last year, everyone was just 154 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: talking the whole time and they because they did this 155 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: really random, stupid dance this year. I was like, what 156 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: the heck is going on? Sarah V dance? They did 157 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: that this year because last year they couldn't keep our 158 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: attention and everyone went to the bar. I think, I 159 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: haven't got up and went for a wine because. 160 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I was interested, Like this is 161 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: obviously my first time going, but like I get it. 162 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: It's a show. But like it started at seven and 163 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: so there was food trucks outside beforehand, but then from 164 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: seven to what when we were in there till nearly 165 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: ten nine nine, there was no food and drink the 166 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: entire time. Yeah, like smack bang at dinner time. And 167 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: I will say the audience was fucking mid. 168 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh for sure. 169 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: The atmosphere is the only person. 170 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: Who stood up for the greater of the year. 171 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: Like, the whole audience in Atmosphere was mid and like 172 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: nearly towards the end, it was dying off so badly. 173 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: And Robert Irwin bless him. He was really good, like 174 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: he's a good talker, like he speaks so well because 175 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: obviously they were all reading off teleprompters. And that's the 176 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: other hard thing I found about being at the event 177 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: is obviously the whole thing is for the live stream, 178 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: so it doesn't come across genuine when you're in the 179 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: room because you can see the huge teleprompters behind us, 180 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: you can see them reading, you can see when they're 181 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: reading too fast or too slow, So the whole thing 182 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: feels inauthentic. And at one point he comes out and 183 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: he just goes, Wow, the crowd here is electric. 184 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: And it was like, no, I don't even think anyone 185 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: did that. It was dead silent the whole. 186 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: Room, like the whole night. After Shannon Nol came out, 187 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, yeah, they'd announced the winner. 188 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: Jojo Siwa Like, I was like, is anybody gonna get up? 189 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: Like I want to stand up? But I was like, 190 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be the only one in the room. 191 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 2: I didn't want to, like me, do you know what 192 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: I mean? Like no one was standing up, and I 193 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: wanted to get up and dance to Karma, which, by 194 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: the way, just saying you know scrollers. Jojo Siwa was iconic. 195 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: It was like it was the onroddom good thing of 196 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: the night, Like she was the one that got the 197 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: room the loudest. The rest of the night, I was 198 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: literally messaging Matt and Kate, who was sitting like a 199 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: bit away from me. I was messaging our group chat 200 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: saying what the fuck is going on? Like the audience 201 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: is asleep. I'm leaning over to Claire at our table, 202 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: going what the fuck? This is embarrassing if we actually 203 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: win because the audience is like mm yeah, I. 204 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: Don't know what it was when someone would you know, 205 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: Ashley Day I noticed was the first time I noticed 206 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: she was announced as winner. Everyone give a big clap, yay. 207 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: She still had like ten meters to go to the 208 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: stage and it was dead silent. I was like, we're 209 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: not still clapping, like everybody clap the es Well, it's 210 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: like these people don't know how to act at an 211 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: awards ceremony, you know what I mean. You clap until 212 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: the person is on the stage and ready to you know, speak. 213 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: And I don't know whether there's an air of like 214 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: saltiness in the room. 215 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: I think it was it felt it felt salty. 216 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: I mean, to be fair, TikTok as I've said, we 217 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: only said this a couple of weeks ago. It's the 218 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: first platform that kind of does put people on a 219 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: pedestal and does go these are the best creators, and 220 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: these are the best creators, and if you're not one 221 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: of those, like, oh, I find it is like, I mean, 222 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 2: I absolutely am not salty that I don't get nominated 223 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: for anything, But I can tell that people are salty 224 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: because they're like, well, I've got more followers, I've been 225 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: doing TikTok longer, I arguably make better videos, and these 226 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: randoms have been nominated. So I think, like us just 227 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: being in this industry, we're so used to other platforms 228 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: just treating everyone the same on the same kind of 229 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: playing field. 230 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is creating like a popularity contest in 231 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: an app that kind of is still a popularity contest 232 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: every day anyway, because everyone's out there trying to get 233 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: the most amount of views. 234 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 2: But like, oh, here we go, Hannah's got a question 235 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: pop on in Doh what would you like to know? 236 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: Only like because I clicked on it looking because I 237 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: was like, has fate one yet? Has one yet? 238 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 239 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: Because I was ready for you to win. But the 240 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: thing that I find about it is like you guys 241 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: saying that the crowd is dead and all of that stuff. 242 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: Do you think because TikTok is a social media platform 243 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: where people are so used to creating in solitude by themselves. 244 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: It's so different to like say a Logis or an 245 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: Arias or like an award show like that, where all 246 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: the people in media trained because they come from that 247 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: entertainment industry where you're really interacting with other people with directors, 248 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: casts made up I don't know versus vibe was just 249 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: weird in the room. I noticed it the same with 250 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: like the hosts, Like I was like, you guys, are 251 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: not they trained? 252 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: They were missing Okay, okay, this is actually what I 253 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: don't love about the whole thing. Yeah, that's these these 254 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: people who aren't trained to do any of this get 255 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: these opportunities because why, I don't know. And I mean, God, 256 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: bless Indie Clinton. Love her. She's a fucking vibe. Love 257 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: your babe. If this ever gates back to you, love ya. 258 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: But I tell you didn't want to host. I could 259 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 2: tell you didn't want to be there. Kat Clark didn't 260 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,479 Speaker 2: want to be there either. 261 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: And she was like, wow, that's amazing, like it was 262 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: giving I can't be mee and I will say Rock. 263 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: Had a great job, and it was really weird. It 264 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: was like she was so nervous and I was like, 265 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: if you don't want to do it, don't do it. 266 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 2: I will gladly stand up there and give you a performance. 267 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: Like give it to someone who actually like wants to 268 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: be on the stage. 269 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: Tell Robberwin he is the one with the media training, 270 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: because he was like all right, everyone, like he was 271 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: getting into it. Where the others. I don't know. 272 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: Cat Clark did a good job. I know she, I 273 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: think gets really nervous about those sorts of things, but 274 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: she still wants to do it. My vibe with Indy 275 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: and I could be wrong, but I feel like Indy 276 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: was thrown into that and she was like, I don't 277 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: know what the bloody hell I'm doing. I'm just going 278 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: to make jokes about this, that and everything and get 279 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: on with the bloody show, you know. And God love her. 280 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: I hope she had a good time, but I would 281 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: love to see someone who like actually knows entertain it 282 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: handle the crowd. And also, you know, Indy was throwing 283 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: a few curve balls that I felt she couldn't really 284 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: recover from there, and she didn't really know what to do, 285 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: and God bless her. It was her first time probably 286 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: doing something like that, and I'm not trying to tear 287 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 2: her down, but I'm just saying there are probably other 288 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: people who could have got opportunities like that and made 289 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: it a more cohesive. 290 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: Well, I will say, like Bridy Drake one Creator of 291 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: the Year this year, and then I'm sure maybe she'll 292 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: get the opportunity next year to host, and I could 293 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: see someone like her maybe being a bit more like 294 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, you don't reckon, I don't know. 295 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: Again, love her, love Brady, but I'm like, I haven't 296 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: seen her hosts, I haven't seen her present, so I'm like, 297 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: who knows. That's what my reaction was there. I was like, well, 298 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: who knows? We don't bloody nothing. 299 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: Giving, like very aussy, like Australian, like a bit chaotic. 300 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the cameras. Can we talk about the cameras? Oh? 301 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: Like when they go around to the tape. 302 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, because there were two tables for your category, yes, 303 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 2: And when they were announcing Business of the Year, all 304 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: of the cameras were on your table and there were 305 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: not three other creators on the other table. 306 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: So they like the cameras give away who's winning because 307 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: they're they're waiting as like they're showing all the nominees, 308 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: but the cameras are pointing straight at the winner, like 309 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: there's a camera crew right there in front of the table. 310 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: They get ready, you know, two minutes before the winner 311 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: is announced. So there's three cameras and all three of 312 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: them appointing. 313 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: I think they should have like a decoy one that 314 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: even if fake camera that isn't even recording, like pointing 315 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: to the other table, and the. 316 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: People who have the cameras they don't even care. One 317 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: guy I saw had a camera on a certain table 318 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: and the lady goes na not that one cis table 319 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: and turned it away from other nominees for whatever category 320 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: it was, yeah, and put the camera. So those nominees 321 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: now knows that if they're not winning, and it's obviously 322 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, in your case, Kate and I 323 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: were getting quite excited because you and Calade were sitting 324 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: on the same table, so we're like, well, it's between 325 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: one of them because they're not even putting the camera 326 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: on the other nominees on the other table, So we 327 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: did have a bit of hope there, but I think 328 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: it was hard to tell from where I was sitting, 329 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: from where you were sitting, did you know because of 330 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: the cameras. 331 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you could see exactly who they were, Like the 332 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: cameras were focused on and that's like two minutes before 333 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: they announced it, so like, yeah, we all know obviously, 334 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: but that's again, the whole show is set up for 335 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: the live stream, so you could tell it's not for 336 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: the people in the audience kind of thing. And I 337 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: think that's also why there was a disconnect with the 338 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: audience and why the audience was kind of mid because 339 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: the whole thing wasn't for us in the room. It 340 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: was for the live stream. Like you could tell, like 341 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: the hosts weren't really looking at the audience. They're looking 342 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: straight down the camera that's in front of them. And 343 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, it was an interesting experience. I don't 344 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: think i'd ever bother going again, like coming from fucking 345 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: Newcastle all the but like, I'm glad we went and 346 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: it was good fun, Like I was excited to be nominated. 347 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: We had to accept our nomination as well, By the way, 348 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: we got an email to say, like do you want 349 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: to be nominated? TikTok, like contacted us that way. Interesting experience. 350 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: Jojo Sibell was actually the highlight of the whole thing. 351 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: She was really good and again like Jojo presented award 352 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: in the music category and the winner wasn't there anyway, 353 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: But when she came out to present, you could tell 354 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: she was media trained because out of all the people 355 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: presenting the awards, she captivated my attention. I was like, 356 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm fucking listening, Like she spoke so well, was engaging. 357 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what it is. You 358 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: can just definitely tell a difference between those that are 359 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: media trained and those that aren't. One last question. I 360 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: saw that both of you got pictures with Ozzie Brow Squad. Yes, 361 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: tell me more. They were actually really nice boys, and 362 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: the mum was really nice. 363 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: It was so lovely. 364 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: She was fearing like a navy gown, like with a 365 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: little navy shawl over the shoulders, kind of like from 366 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: Suzanne's or something. 367 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: And they're from the Central Coast, so we bonded over that. Yes, 368 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: obviously that's where I'm from. 369 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: And you know what I've got to say they're getting 370 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: way better at dancing, like they are improving, and they 371 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: did a little spontaneous dance in the crowd as well. 372 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: Plus did you get a photo too, Mat? Yeah? Yeah, 373 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: love it. They were cute. I think they're all right, 374 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: and everyone was really concerned about them. Yeah, but they're fine. 375 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: They seemed to love it. 376 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 2: Who else is there? Shed and bloody now? And everyone 377 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 2: was so mid when he came out again, I was like, 378 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: am I meant to stand up? Or am I gonna 379 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: be in the way of a camera for the live stream? 380 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like I was like, no 381 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: one else is standing up? But also see that was 382 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: strange as well, Like I did feel majority of the 383 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: performances weird choices. 384 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, like a DJ set, like that guy that did 385 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: the DJ set, but like everyone seated and like no 386 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: one got into it. 387 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 2: I know. It was just really strange anyway, Like I 388 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 2: had a cam time, and then of course they went 389 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: to the after party afterwards and had a great night there. 390 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: You've still got your sunny afters. 391 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: I know I've got my sunny's on. I'm really struggling today, 392 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 2: but it is what it is. Oh, I just love 393 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: hanging out with everyone. Finally met Stephanie. 394 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: May yep I met Ebonie May. 395 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 2: Oh. 396 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: She was so cute it wasting. 397 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: On the stage at Universal Together last night. She's a vibe, 398 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 2: I said, Ebonie May, you are an icon. I kept 399 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: yelling that at her. 400 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the best part of the night. Honestly 401 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: for me, was like, because I know you got their 402 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: late ish, Matt, but I got there fucking four thirty 403 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: and it didn't start till seven, And the best part 404 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: was like the two and a half hours outside before, 405 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 1: just like meeting everyone that we follow online and just 406 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: being like, hello, I know you. So that was the 407 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: best big for me. 408 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: I got there a little bit late and they had 409 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 2: they have two here's some tea for you. They had 410 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: two lines for the red carpet, so they had line 411 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: A and line B, and I got line B and 412 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 2: I thought, oh, mine B. I'm not a mind bloody hell. 413 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: Laane A, well, they pulled the wool over our click, 414 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 2: so to speak, because Lane B was the fancy lane 415 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: and Laane A was not so fancy lane. If you've 416 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: got a ticket for Lane A, you just got your 417 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 2: photo on the wall, I think. And Lane B, which 418 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: was what I was in. Oh my god, Angela Bishop 419 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 2: was interviewing me. I was doing twelves for Channel seven. 420 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 2: They've asked if I want to be on Dancing with 421 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 2: the Stars, I've got pedestrian TFA, I've got Binge interview 422 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: on me. I was pouring myself out to all the 423 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: media on Lane B of the carpet and I bloody 424 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: loved it. And then they even pulled me in I 425 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: think to go on the TikTok Live. 426 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, AJ was watching that sendime videos of home. 427 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I wasn't. I didn't even No one 428 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: even told me. Someone just grabbed me and said, come 429 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: with me, jump in there. And I've jumped in and 430 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: I'm going I don't know, bloody, are where this is going. 431 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: I'm trying not to swear. 432 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: I got interviewed on that side too, and now asked 433 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: me questions that I just wasn't prepared for. 434 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's like. 435 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: What's a trend that you hope to see die next year? 436 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: And I'm like, God, I can't even think of what trends. Fuck, 437 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. 438 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: I actually, in all my experience of Red Carpets and 439 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: doing all the media TikTok red carpet the last few 440 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 2: years is always the hardest questions. 441 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't think, Like it was like, fuck Mary 442 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: kill TikTok trends, And I'm like, how am I supposed 443 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: to think of that off the top of my fucking head? 444 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: What are the top three trends you're loving right now? 445 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't even think the one right now. 446 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: I'm sweating. I'm overheating. It's hot. And then they also said, 447 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: what's your favorite dance move or something? And I said 448 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: what it was? I said, I said the worm and 449 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 2: they go, prove it. I mean a fucking gown. Love, 450 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not doing the fucking worm on the 451 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: red What are you mean? I mean, give it a rest, 452 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: you know. So Anyway, next year, whoever does the TikTok 453 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: bloody media wall, can you ask? Question the questions? Some 454 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: simple ones? Okay, especially given we've been getting ready all day, 455 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: doing all the things, doing all the content. My brain's 456 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: fried by the time I'm on that carpet. 457 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: Love. Anyway, I think that's all we really have to 458 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: say for today. There might be a few more bits 459 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: in next week's main episode. Yeah, I think that's all 460 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: for now. 461 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: Nice. 462 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: We better go because Hannah's got to upload this today. 463 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we'll see you next Tuesday.