WEBVTT - Dating in 2021 is F**KD

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<v Speaker 1>I've definitely dated my fair share of douchebags.

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<v Speaker 2>My time.

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<v Speaker 3>I just get tingling, healing my balls.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm spiraling. Oh my God, tell us everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Flame emojis cleft right center.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt loves a bit of God and I need affection back.

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<v Speaker 3>I really need you with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm jealous. I'm the most jealous person ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Relationships like a fart. If you have to force it,

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<v Speaker 3>it's probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit hisity dot com for you. I'll be a bloody

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<v Speaker 1>single and alone with ten cats for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Lie.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, guys, it's Ana and Matt here.

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<v Speaker 2>And on today's episode, we're talking about how fucked it

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<v Speaker 2>is to date.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty one, stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, how do we know each other?

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<v Speaker 4>So we did a couple of photo shoots together back

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<v Speaker 4>in the day. So the first time we met was

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<v Speaker 4>on the Maya Catwalk.

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<v Speaker 1>The Maya Catwalk.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in two thousand and sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was twenty one and you were twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>That makes me nineteen a baby. So I was a baby?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, baby, I remember your You were opposite me, like

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<v Speaker 4>our diressing things were opposite each other.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you remember that?

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<v Speaker 3>I just remember that, God, this girl's cute.

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<v Speaker 2>And because we all get naked in Chames, so you're

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<v Speaker 2>probably herving on me, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I may have quart a glance.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't even surprise.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I remember that we were chatting in the line

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<v Speaker 4>before we walked out one time as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then while you slid into the DMS.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it not? I think it was not like straight away,

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<v Speaker 3>I think a little bit after.

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<v Speaker 2>To give it some time, some time, let's start by

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<v Speaker 2>saying that I'm like a hopeless romantic. I love love,

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<v Speaker 2>I want the fairy tale, I want the Prince Charming.

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<v Speaker 1>And what would we say about you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think that I've come out of a situation

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<v Speaker 4>relationship where I thought I wanted that, but it just

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<v Speaker 4>ended up being way too toxic and way too draining

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<v Speaker 4>on my soul my heart.

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<v Speaker 3>So right now I'm just exploring just what Matt, exploring

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<v Speaker 3>my options and seeing what's out there, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>So does that make you a bit of a fuck boy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it depends. It's about perspective, isn't it. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>think I am.

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<v Speaker 1>It is about perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wouldn't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I am something a boy would say, right, Am.

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<v Speaker 3>I digging myself in a hole?

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<v Speaker 2>Early?

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<v Speaker 1>Early?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Very early?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you would have called it a bit longer.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I mean that, I wouldn't sayny like I'm going around.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just not emotionally investing anyone because emotionally I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not there, not ready to emotionally invest in anything

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<v Speaker 4>that's there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're also romantic at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>I am, and I would.

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<v Speaker 4>I would love to find someone romantic. I love being

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<v Speaker 4>in love. I love love as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Love, But it's got to be missus right, and.

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<v Speaker 2>She's got to be like, yeah, missus Kowski, where you at?

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<v Speaker 3>Where's your head out?

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<v Speaker 2>But you're a bit of a serial DM slider in right?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I do love to slide into a couple of dms.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's how I slid into your d ms

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<v Speaker 4>back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>You did, you slid into my d ms a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Did I get any success? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm going to pull them off. Should we play?

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<v Speaker 2>When I first walked into Love Island and your reaction,

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<v Speaker 2>let's hear that.

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<v Speaker 3>My heart kids stopped for a second there.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh no, I ain't good. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know yet.

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<v Speaker 3>A Jesus, I know, Anna. I actually sent her a

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<v Speaker 3>DM a couple of weeks ago. To be honest, flame

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<v Speaker 3>emojis left frighton center.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to say that I have stopped using

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<v Speaker 4>the flame emoji. Now I've moved on to a wave.

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<v Speaker 4>You have a volt, so I just I just send

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<v Speaker 4>a wave. I did try the other day, a kitten

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<v Speaker 4>like a with love heart Ice.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, how did that go for you?

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<v Speaker 4>Successful? She replied back, me ow wow, Okay, I did

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<v Speaker 4>enjoy that.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I want to pull up these dms because I've

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of people ask me what were these

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<v Speaker 2>like mysterious dms that Matt sent you? And I mean

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<v Speaker 2>persistence is Matt's strong point. I would say, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I quit, did I know? So?

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<v Speaker 1>The first one was in twenty sixteen, so.

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<v Speaker 3>It would have been how long after we met then?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably months? Weeks, no hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I'm not sure, but the first DM was a

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<v Speaker 2>photograph of your wrestling, and then you said, do you

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<v Speaker 2>want me to get some tickets to watch me wrestle?

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<v Speaker 1>I know you'll enjoy it. Hah.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a line that you use on lots of girls, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>come watch me wrestle.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be fun. I know you'll enjoy it. Hah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah I think I have.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you reply?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't reply. I was absolutely not interested. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for this? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So it's me in twenty seventeen. It says you are hot.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't reply. Wait, what's the photo of it's me dancing?

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<v Speaker 2>Then it says looking super hot, and I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. And then he said how's life being? I

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<v Speaker 2>said yeah, goodyear? You said yeah, same old. Really you're

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<v Speaker 2>still modeling heaps.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't reply. Then I put up a bikini.

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<v Speaker 2>Post and you said, raise your hands, Resian hands.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've sent you the photo. It's not even a story.

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<v Speaker 1>I reply to, Yeah, it is a story.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it is a story. It's nice. Actually, oh my god?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and then when can I take you on a

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<v Speaker 2>date night? No response by me.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't respond to me asking you on a date?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew you were a serial slider in, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you are too hot Anna, no reply, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>flame emojis, the love heart emojis.

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<v Speaker 1>You just literally kept going. It was never ending.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, give me that. I have precision. What's the word precision? Persistence, persistency, yeast?

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<v Speaker 4>It works to me sometimes and sometimes not hoestly, not

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<v Speaker 4>with a classy, well respected girl like yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>Play that.

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<v Speaker 3>Back to the drawing board for that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the Okay, I don't know what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think dating in twenty twenty one?

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<v Speaker 1>Sliding into the dms? Does that work?

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<v Speaker 3>It has worked for me a fair bit. Has it

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<v Speaker 3>worked for you? Do you slide into guy's DMS?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Not at all?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Then how would you open a conversation with them?

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't look to meet someone on Instagram. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>just my personal preference.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, Okay, that's strange.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. I use Instagram like to meet people they

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<v Speaker 4>signed to mine. I'll slide into their Yeah, So blokes

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<v Speaker 4>don't slide into your DMS at all?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they do, I just don't really respond.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the best sliding you reckon you've had?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're that exciting like it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>wave like you used to do, or hey, how's.

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<v Speaker 1>It going or such like a compliment.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, what would be something that would draw your attention?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 4>For a guy for the listeners listening at home, to

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<v Speaker 4>get your attention and his attention, what would you say

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<v Speaker 4>would be get your attention?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really think there's anything that anyone could say.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, I mean, if it was like my type,

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<v Speaker 1>he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like tall, tanned, long hair, my vibemselle. No, not you,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure. I just don't really like meeting guys

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd rather meet them out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather meet them on a daily app.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that works for me because it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a bit more you know, anymous as well, Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to meet someone. I just feel like if a

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<v Speaker 2>guy sliding into my dms, and like, how many other

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<v Speaker 2>girls dms are they sliding into? Probably a lot from experience, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well exactly right. I mean you're what I base a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of that on. And I'm like, if Matt sliding

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<v Speaker 2>in that much, let's.

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<v Speaker 4>Be like a particular. I don't slide into every girls.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a lot to find something that I find attractive

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<v Speaker 4>with them just sliding first, yeah, like I'm not just

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<v Speaker 4>going like, oh, I try my lucking and then like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not shooting nine and then see if one like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean the tenth one years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I just stiff. I think there's something like they're cute,

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<v Speaker 3>then what's hip? I just slide in and react.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, look, you meet girls on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say I would meet guys on like a dating

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<v Speaker 2>app or if I meet them out.

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<v Speaker 3>I prefer to meet a girl out at a club.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd prefer that.

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<v Speaker 2>Get the vibes, get the energy, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Get to know people more.

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<v Speaker 4>Well. Just to put to I've never met up with

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<v Speaker 4>a girl a dating app ever, never ever, really no,

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<v Speaker 4>I've never had I'm on obviously dating apps, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>using more as if I'm hungover in bed, just swiping to.

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<v Speaker 3>See what a Sunday morning like, just to see what's

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<v Speaker 3>in my area.

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<v Speaker 4>But no, I've never I've never met up or anything

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<v Speaker 4>with a girl for dating app.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the question how many girls have you met up

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<v Speaker 2>with from Instagram.

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<v Speaker 4>Cricket scene, that's a very I'd have to go to

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<v Speaker 4>a talent like account. It wouldn't be as many. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>I have met up with girls off Instagram. I think

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<v Speaker 4>Instagram is more authentic than a dating app because on

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<v Speaker 4>a dating app, I know, the Instagram, you're only putting

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<v Speaker 4>your best photos forward, but on a dating app you

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<v Speaker 4>have one.

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<v Speaker 2>Dating apps you're doing exactly the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it's like four we're on Instagram, you could

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<v Speaker 4>have up to like five hundred stories highlights and you

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<v Speaker 4>get a better idea of the girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think your track record is better on Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>now or before Love Islands?

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, I don't know what you want to

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<v Speaker 2>take from that, but that's why I wouldn't really want

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<v Speaker 2>to be meeting people on Instagram. So you are an

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<v Speaker 2>avid slider into the dms, But how many girls are

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<v Speaker 2>actually slide into your dms?

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<v Speaker 1>And what's like the best lines that you get?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I obviously have a lot of girls slide into mine.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't Yeah, I won't reply to it any like

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<v Speaker 4>all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Any that's not actually true.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well they have to be like my type, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I'll look through them, and if they're on private, I

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<v Speaker 4>won't like, I'll be like, oh, like I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what you look like like, I don't know what you're like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, I can't get an idea

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<v Speaker 4>of just a display picture. So but the best pickup

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<v Speaker 4>I've had was definitely a couple of months ago, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>like early last year, when like the whole COVID thing

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<v Speaker 4>was going down, and the girls said to me, if

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<v Speaker 4>coronavirus doesn't take you out, can.

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<v Speaker 3>I that's actually pretty good, it's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfor unfortunately she was in America, so yeah, she couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>take me.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, but she could end maybe in the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, I'll put her on the back when they opened

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<v Speaker 3>up the border.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was very impressive, to the point that

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<v Speaker 4>I may or may not have used that. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you to that anonymous girl.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to say the name then? No, no, not yet, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So like obviously dating in twenty twenty one, there's lots

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<v Speaker 2>of different stages of dating, shall we say. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the first date when someone asks you out, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's like we're going on a first day, exciting time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's full of lies and butterflies.

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<v Speaker 2>Full of lies from the guys, full of butterflies.

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<v Speaker 1>From the girl.

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<v Speaker 3>I get a tingly feeling in my balls, not not butterflies.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, then so that's obviously like the first dating.

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<v Speaker 4>And then what, well, every relationship is different, we don't

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<v Speaker 4>it move into situationship?

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<v Speaker 3>What's a situationship?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let me define it for you.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got a definition, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>So a situationship is basically an undefined romantic relationship, unlike

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<v Speaker 2>a friends with benefit situation. There can be feelings involved

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<v Speaker 2>in a situationship, but in terms of the relationship, the

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<v Speaker 2>end goal is a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 4>So you guys, well, whoever together are sleeping together. They

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<v Speaker 4>like each other, but I guess they haven't had the

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<v Speaker 4>exclusive chat.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet, the exclusion. So there's a massive gray area between.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very grey.

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<v Speaker 3>It is very great. Weren't you weren't you in a situationship?

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<v Speaker 1>I was? I wasn't very.

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<v Speaker 3>Close to that recently that I was.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the problem is when you don't define things,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's what you want, I feel like there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many gray areas.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, I was in a situationship recently.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you before you tell me about your situationship? But

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people don't like to have that conversation. I,

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<v Speaker 4>for one, am not big on having that conversation with

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<v Speaker 4>someone in that thing unless they are literally like I

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<v Speaker 4>want to lock them down, They're not going nowhere sort

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<v Speaker 4>of thing, you know what I mean? I feel just yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>actually hanging out. I'm going to avoid that conversation at

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<v Speaker 4>all costs.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like males avoid that conversation and girls are

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like do I bring it up?

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<v Speaker 1>Like should I say something?

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<v Speaker 2>And then if the girl says it too soon, then

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<v Speaker 2>the guy's like bash catching never ye?

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<v Speaker 4>Or if it's sometimes I actually are into it. If

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's toxic.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think a lot of people are into toxic

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<v Speaker 2>behavior as much as you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You love toxic why, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It keeps me on my toes, keeps me, keeps me guessing,

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<v Speaker 4>keeps things fresh. But I want to hear about your

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<v Speaker 4>situationship before we get too carried away. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's I think that everyone's now itching to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So basically I was seeing this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's from interstate, so I met him when I was

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<v Speaker 2>in Byron.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you just meet him at a club?

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<v Speaker 2>So we met on a dating app back in December,

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<v Speaker 2>and then your trip to Byron was what in my

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<v Speaker 2>trip to Byron was April.

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<v Speaker 3>So you spoke for We spoke on and off.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was going to buy Ron for my

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<v Speaker 2>birthday and he came up from the Gold Coast to

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<v Speaker 2>meet me and we just got.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you laughing at? I'm keen on okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So then we ended up catching up. We caught

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<v Speaker 2>up another time up there, and then he started flying

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<v Speaker 2>to Melbourn back and forth. He did yeah, like I said, keen, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't get asleep over good signs. And then he

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<v Speaker 2>started flying to Melbourne to see me.

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<v Speaker 3>So he even flew down to Melbourne to see multiple.

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<v Speaker 1>Times, like maybe three or four times.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy sounds like he's keen. Yeah, he's keen. He's

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<v Speaker 3>putting in a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>The hard I mean that's what you think.

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<v Speaker 3>It definitely sounds it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so I think just before the most recent

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<v Speaker 2>Melbourne lockdown, he was like, come to the Gold Coast

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<v Speaker 2>to see me to escape.

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<v Speaker 3>From the lockdown, because we know how much she struggled

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<v Speaker 3>with the lockdown.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't deal with them too much. Yeah kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was just like a day before we had

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<v Speaker 2>the lockdown, was announced, and yeah, he was. I hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>been to the Gold Coast. He'd been to Melbourn multiple times.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, it's probably my turn just to make

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<v Speaker 2>the effort.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was heading. I was at the airport.

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<v Speaker 2>I was sitting at the boarding gate and then my

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<v Speaker 2>phone started ringing from a random number, and as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't answer random numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>And then all of a.

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<v Speaker 2>Sudden, twenty messages came through all at once.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, who was blowing up my phone?

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<v Speaker 2>So I clicked on the messages and there was multiple

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<v Speaker 2>screen grabs of him talking to this miscellaneous girl and

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<v Speaker 2>I was just so confused.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what is going on?

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<v Speaker 3>So who sent me these messages?

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<v Speaker 1>So it turns out it was his ex girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was talking to her.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole time he was talking to me. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting at the boarding gate at the airport and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, my bag, my thirty kilos of luggage you

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<v Speaker 2>a weekend for a weekend, My thirty kilos of luggage

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<v Speaker 2>is currently heading to Brisbane, or is about to be

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<v Speaker 2>heading to Brisbane.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this can't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was just like called the number and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Hi, who am I talking to, And the

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<v Speaker 2>girl was basically like, Hey, I'm the guys ex girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just wanted you to know that he's been

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<v Speaker 2>saying us both the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>I've known about you the whole time, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's been sleeping with us both, and so obviously

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<v Speaker 2>I really like this guy, you know. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>was like quite upset, like I started crying in the airport.

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<v Speaker 3>At the airport, was anyone looking at you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes they were.

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<v Speaker 2>And I went up to the air possess and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, there's been an emergency and I need, as

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<v Speaker 2>in need to get my bags off this flight. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot go to the Gold Coast like I will

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<v Speaker 2>not and cannot go to the Gold Coast. Please get

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<v Speaker 2>my bag off the flight. And I ended up holding

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<v Speaker 2>up the flight by ten minutes. So the flight ended

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<v Speaker 2>up being late because they were pulling my bag.

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<v Speaker 3>There'd be some angry people on that plane.

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<v Speaker 2>Not more angry than not more angry than me.

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<v Speaker 3>A right, So let me get this straight.

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<v Speaker 4>He was sleeping with you, yeah, and sleeping with his ex, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>And she knew that he was going down to Melbourne

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<v Speaker 4>to sleep with you.

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<v Speaker 2>He lied some of the times that he came down,

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<v Speaker 2>but then other times he told her he came to Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so he was sugarcoating this story, like.

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<v Speaker 2>How long ago had he broken up with this miscellaneous

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<v Speaker 2>e I loves. He broke up with her about eight

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<v Speaker 2>months prior.

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<v Speaker 4>I think had they continued talking and sleeping together the

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<v Speaker 4>whole time after?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so now in hindsight, But I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>that at the time. But there was definitely some flaws

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<v Speaker 2>in the story that I started.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So when I originally first heard this story, I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, what a fuck with?

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<v Speaker 3>Like what a dog? You know what I mean? Doing

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<v Speaker 3>dirty on Anna, my girl? But then I thought to myself,

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<v Speaker 3>hang on, this.

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<v Speaker 4>Guy has put himself in a really shit situation because

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<v Speaker 4>he's probably still was sleeping hanging out with his ex

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<v Speaker 4>and then things have obviously snowballed with you. And because

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<v Speaker 4>he still cared for his ex, he didn't want to

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<v Speaker 4>cut her off straight away, and I think the whole

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<v Speaker 4>situation maybe just got away from him.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you don't like to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I agree, and he got caught up.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like the guy, I don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 4>but like I just I got a little understanding of

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<v Speaker 4>what happened, and I've been pretty close to that situation.

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<v Speaker 2>So first happens said to me, I think that he's

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<v Speaker 2>still sleeping with his ex before before we see him

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<v Speaker 2>came out.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember having lunch and I said.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a few like things where he got a

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<v Speaker 2>bit annoyed when I asked questions, and that said, straight up,

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon he's sleeping with his ex.

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<v Speaker 3>Men's intuition. It takes on to no one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it takes on to no one who's anything like you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no, I mean yeah, I think this whole situation

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<v Speaker 4>just got away from you. Didn't expect things to snowball,

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<v Speaker 4>was you? Obviously it did put himself in an a position. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he was scared to break things off with his X.

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<v Speaker 4>It's shit out's behavior. Yeah, it's not it's not acceptable,

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But then it's bringing it back to the whole situation ship,

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<v Speaker 2>which it's it's kind of like free reign. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like nothing's defined. We're not exclusive, we're not boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>and girlfriend. If you're in like an undefined situation situationship, do.

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<v Speaker 1>You think people can do what they want?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>I think in.

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<v Speaker 4>Hindsight, you should have asked him about the exclusive chat

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<v Speaker 4>or it wasn't moving that way. I mean you were

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<v Speaker 4>about to fly up to the Gold Coast, he was

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<v Speaker 4>flying down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, look, I just think that if the

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<v Speaker 2>guy hasn't initiated that, then I tend not to because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, if you're not there, then I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be pressuring or putting that onto you. And maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that's a flow of mine, and maybe I do need

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<v Speaker 2>to step up in future, but.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, I just find that conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Uncomfortable or I feel like I'm pressuring someone into doing

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<v Speaker 2>something that they don't want to do, Like they should

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<v Speaker 2>know that I'm a cat and they're lucky they can't

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<v Speaker 2>see it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the end.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I have a little story from a situationship last year.

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<v Speaker 4>I was obviously seeing this girl sleeping together, hanging out,

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<v Speaker 4>and I went onto a radio station and I had

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<v Speaker 4>a date with a girl this story. So I went

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<v Speaker 4>and had a date with her, and obviously things snowballed

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<v Speaker 4>from there and we started talking off air and we

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<v Speaker 4>started talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Like on FaceTime.

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<v Speaker 4>She obviously didn't live in Australia and we were chatting,

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<v Speaker 4>exchanging messages and the girl I was seeing at the

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<v Speaker 4>time found out yeah, and she cracked it at me

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, but there was no conversation about

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<v Speaker 4>us being exclusive. You knew I was doing that date.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually did it in your lound room while you

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<v Speaker 4>were asleep, Like you knew it was happening. You knew

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<v Speaker 4>what was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? You knew.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the thing that we have to be

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<v Speaker 2>careful with is that it doesn't make it less hurtful.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, because if the tables were turned, you'd be hear me,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'd be quite mad.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, there was no conversation, so I probably if

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<v Speaker 4>she said to me, there was no conversation, let's have

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<v Speaker 4>the conversation now, which eventually I turned that in and

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<v Speaker 4>I said, let's have the conversation now. Are like that,

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<v Speaker 4>are we exclusive now?

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<v Speaker 1>And so you said it there?

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<v Speaker 3>I said, so I because we were arguing.

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<v Speaker 4>So I said, let's have the come exclusive and we

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<v Speaker 4>dated like the next week.

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<v Speaker 2>I asked, your girlfriend, so that was your most recent girlfriend?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I just thought that was my most recent situationship

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<v Speaker 4>that I caught myself in after hearing yours.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so, do you think that the guy should

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<v Speaker 2>be the one to initiate the exclusivity or boyfriend and

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriend chat or do you think that a girl needs

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<v Speaker 2>to step up to the play and be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this has gone on for too long.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we let's define this.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it comes down to a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 4>It comes down to if you're going on dates, if

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<v Speaker 4>you're like doing romantic things, you're introducing them to your friends,

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<v Speaker 4>even your family, introducing him to your family. They're staying

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<v Speaker 4>over multiple nights in a week. I mean, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>they're just coming around after a night out for a

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<v Speaker 4>glass of wine.

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<v Speaker 2>The what you're doing text there the WYD if you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting a w.

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<v Speaker 4>I D friends you're going to it's not going to

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<v Speaker 4>go the way you want it to go. But if

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<v Speaker 4>it turns on that, and then if it's a girl,

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<v Speaker 4>Gray's responsibility, I think that falls into whoever's feeling like

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 4>they want to have that conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, do you think that that conversation is like a

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<v Speaker 2>make or break Like that's definitely broke up a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of situationships that we're going really smooth sailing into the sunset,

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<v Speaker 2>and that conversation puts like a huge boulder in the way, right, Yeah, definitely.

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:29.119
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a tricky conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>It is, and I'm not here to tell anyone to

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<v Speaker 4>go do it just and then don't take.

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 3>My advice and come at in.

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Don't that situation, that conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>She's not messaging you, just yeah, just pick your moments,

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:45.399
<v Speaker 4>see where it's going, see if they like you, and

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<v Speaker 4>then take it.

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<v Speaker 1>Depends what you're looking for, depends what you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I feel like going forward, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>be a lot more transparent with women i'm seeing and

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<v Speaker 4>say that I'm not looking for anything right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can't.

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's important.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that is very important. Okay, So this miscellaneous guy

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:07.920
<v Speaker 4>that kept flying down to Melbourne, I've got no idea

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 4>what his name is. He kept flying down to Malovine.

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 4>So you're flying down to malim putting in all this effort.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that the most effort a guy has put in

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<v Speaker 4>for you? Or has a guy put in more effort

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<v Speaker 4>than that?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I've had a sixth and a half

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:23.639
<v Speaker 2>year relationship. I don't know if a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>know that about me, And we used to do amazing things.

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna say no, I'm talking about at the.

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<v Speaker 4>Start, at the start when they're trying to get you

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<v Speaker 4>in a relationship, because I'm I've been known to be

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:38.440
<v Speaker 4>guilty of putting in a lot at the start, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, you put it in the minimum effort that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I put in a lot of effort I do

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<v Speaker 3>with some girls.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the most amount of effort you put in?

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<v Speaker 4>I probably can't tell you off the top of my

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<v Speaker 4>head the most amount of effort I've put in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but I can definitely tell you the most minimum amount

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:58.399
<v Speaker 4>of effort I've put in.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you can. That's exactly what I just said.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you like me?

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to know the minimum amount of effort

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<v Speaker 1>that you.

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<v Speaker 4>Put in a right, So, straight off the bat, I

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 4>asked you girls, go on to walk with me.

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 3>So I got I actually picked her up, picked up and.

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 4>Drove her so somewhere We went for a walk pretty

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 4>much around the block, went for a walk around our

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 4>black local block.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're telling me is you picked her up

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<v Speaker 1>from her house house and then went for a walk

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<v Speaker 1>around the block.

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<v Speaker 4>The zeros and heroes of it don't make much sense.

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 4>The logistics are pretty off. But this is what happened.

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 4>I think there was not much planning on my behalf.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of planning and taking her

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<v Speaker 1>to your house.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got her back to so then we went

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<v Speaker 3>for a walk around the block. It was all good.

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Then I was like, hey, do you it's been like

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<v Speaker 4>a forty five minute walk. I was like, I don't

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 4>want to. We've been good chats, good, good banter. I was, I,

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<v Speaker 4>you want to come in for dinner? And she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to cook me in? I said, I'll see

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 4>what I've got at home, see what I can whip

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<v Speaker 4>up for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's sitting in there, Chef Matt in the house.

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Chef Matt. I was like, let's see what I

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 3>can do.

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she's sitting in the lounde room watching whatever was

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 4>on foxtail. So we're sitting there and that's.

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Putting a zapor non ready to cook her in ass.

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<v Speaker 4>So I looked through the fridge, not much going on.

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 4>Wasn't going to dash out to the shops. I'd been

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 4>sent out some you know, refrigerated meals. Like, you eat

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:25.919
<v Speaker 4>in three minutes?

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had two of the same so I was like,

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:29.880
<v Speaker 3>all right, we're on here.

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 4>So I put them both in the microwave, eated them

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 4>both up, and served her off like one of the

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 4>refrigerated meals, and claimed it as my own, and I

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 4>just cooked it. I think she was a bit suspicious

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 4>when she walked in the kitchen though, and saw no evidenced,

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 4>no evidence of cooking whatsoever, and it took six minutes

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 4>to do. But I don't think she asked questions. I

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 4>think she didn't want to know answers to fair enough.

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 4>Let's say that I was safe not to get a

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:54.360
<v Speaker 4>second day.

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 1>So you didn't get a second day? How did you

0:27:58.400 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 1>get ghosted?

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 3>I asked her.

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I would have go Did you just be honest?

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 4>I asked her for a second one. I said, yeah,

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 4>do you want me to cook your dinner? And I said, so,

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 4>what do you want you?

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Guys?

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 4>Don't worry, I'll cook myself dinner. I said, Okay, she is,

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 4>so okay, what's up? I said, Okay, what's up? She goes,

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm not really down for a guy who puts in

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 4>the bare minimum, even if it's just for a cuddle.

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 4>Have a good night XX.

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that's a pie straight in your face.

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 2>She never wants to see your face again. And to

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 2>be honest, I'm with her like I feel like me.

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 3>That's here, guy, have a refrigerated meal.

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>It's a strong note from me.

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<v Speaker 4>Well maybe, yeah, maybe for the next all right, the

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:37.880
<v Speaker 4>next girl I invite for dinner, I'm going to cook

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 4>her a nice steak. I'll figure something out my signature meal.

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I'm stressed. I'm stressed for anyone dating that

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 2>right now. So would you say you're emotionally unavailable at

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 2>the moment.

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would.

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm I mean, if I say that and then this

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 4>amazing girl comes along and she ticks a lot of

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 4>my boxes, let's hope I can open up emotionally to her.

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 4>But right now I need to I need to break

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 4>I know that with your actually did it a lot

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 4>differently to the way I did it when we broke off. Yeah,

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 4>but mine wasn't an easy break wasn't an easy cut off.

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So just to update people, when I broke up

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 2>with Josh, we cut communication. And then when you broke

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 2>up with your ex, you guys, we kept Captain contact

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 2>kept captain contact. You were saying before, if your perfect

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>girl came along, like, describe her pains as a picture.

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Who is she?

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>What does she look like? What's her personality?

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 3>So I'll start with looks. So she would be I'll

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 3>get to that. So she would be tallish yep, because

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm a tall guy. She would be. She'd have brown hair,

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 3>should be very easy on the eyes, she'd have her

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 3>co and the main thing.

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 4>And I think the thing we're looking for here is

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 4>I like boobs. I'm a massive boobsman, so she has

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 4>to have it. Has boobs.

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 3>I have boobs.

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 4>I have dated girls with obviously not the biggest boobs

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 4>on the bigg boob.

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Sidety bitty titty committee. But yeah, so it's like a

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 2>common thing.

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:21.959
<v Speaker 1>Guys are rather a bum guy or a boobs guy.

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 4>Right, Well, I don't know any other boobs guys. I've

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 4>never actually met another guy who looks at boobs like

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 4>I do.

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I do you do?

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>So the guy who I the Gold Coast guy shall

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>we call it, was a boobs guy.

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but I actually think, and this is maybe really

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 2>bad of me to say, but I've found that boobs

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 2>guys are so toxic, Like, just from my personal experience,

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 2>This is not factual, this is just personal experience.

0:30:56.720 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I find that toxic men are boom men.

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 4>I think that's very unfair to put me in the

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 4>same category. I think that's very I think that's very

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 4>unfair to put me in the same category as mister

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 4>Flyer and Australia for you.

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Which kind of also brings me to the point, is

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 2>romance dead in twenty twenty one? Like, think about when

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 2>our parents were young.

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was a lot, Well there wasn't It wasn't

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 4>as easy to meet someone or to gain access to someone.

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 4>We can just jump on the phone and, like we

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 4>said earlier, slide into someone's dams and then it's white

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 4>left or right.

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 3>And then you're in. You've got actual communication with them

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 3>with no distractions.

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 4>No like you have to wait what time they're back

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 4>from work to call them, have to worry about calling

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 4>their home phone, their parents, or their younger brother or

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 4>younger sister ants older brother answering, Yeah, no, you don't

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 4>have to worry about anything like that.

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 3>You could just literally call them FaceTime when I'm obile.

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>What about writing letters to each other? How romantic?

0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 4>You do?

0:31:58.120 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Love it?

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I haven't even looked like getting a letter.

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Ever. If there's any guy out there who wants to

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 2>send me a letter, that could be my alternative to

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 2>sliding into the DMS.

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>How cute would that be?

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 3>I actually I don't want to put myself over here,

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 3>but I have wrote letters.

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 2>You have it.

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 3>My ex.

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 4>I wrote her a three page one when we broke up.

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 4>My mum told me that was probably the best thing

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 4>to do, even cute. It out made the the card cute.

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 4>I put like our favorite character on the front. It

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 4>was sad, it's breaking my heart with you, you know,

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 4>Michael Mys the Halloween guy. He was like your favorite

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 4>character and it was like I will always be hunting

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 4>for you or something like.

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Just it was.

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 4>It was a bit weird, if she told me. Even

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 4>even she said that her moum when she read it

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 4>was like, well should be concerned. But it was like

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 4>our favorite characters, like a serial killer, you know.

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 3>It was cute and she found the cuteness in it.

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 3>But I wrote her a three page letters.

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 2>So she told you.

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Yes, she told me she's like, look at this guy.

0:32:57.240 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>What this stalker is doing? Blog restraining order?

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 3>So I agree. Yeah, the romance back in the day was.

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 2>A lot more like how cute would it be if

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.479
<v Speaker 2>you just had someone's phone number and you call them

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 2>and then you fall asleep on the phone together, Like.

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't happen?

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 3>Did you experience that growing up?

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean no, because I wasn't really allowed to date

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>growing up, like I was.

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 2>My parents were very strict, Like I didn't have my

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 2>first kiss until I think I was sixteen, so I

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 2>didn't really have boys calling the house. And by the time,

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean by the time I was sixteen, there was

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 2>mobile phone so we.

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 4>Could text so well, so I would have been thirteen,

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 4>so I would have been calling my girlfriend early bloomer.

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hey you dated.

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 3>An older girl. Surprise, surprise.

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>So I wasn't even allowed to have like boys over

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>at the house.

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.479
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't allowed to have sleepovers at friend's houses as

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 2>soon as I turned like fourteen, because my parents were

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 2>like wrapper and bubble wrap, she's not going anywhere.

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 3>I think that's backfired for you, or I mean no,

0:33:59.240 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 3>I think it was good.

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I ended up losing my virginity when I was seventeen,

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>but I was one day off being eighteen, So the

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 2>only reason I really did it was because I was like,

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be an eighteen year old virgin,

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 2>which if you are an eighteen year old virgin, there

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 2>is nothing wrong with that. But in my mindset at

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 2>the time, and because I had a boyfriend of like

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 2>three or four months, I was like, why not, let's

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 2>just do it.

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Happy birthday to me.

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 3>You're like, wow, that was a shit present.

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.879
<v Speaker 2>When I thought it was, I mean it was fun,

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, yes, I was seventeen almost eighteen.

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 4>So after your most recent experience with the Gold Coast guy,

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 4>have you taken a different approach like I said, to

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 4>dating guys or are you still all in on one guy?

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Or are you.

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 4>Scattering for a different word of expression that we like

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.240
<v Speaker 4>to use. Are you're putting your eggs in different baskets

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 4>like I said too?

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:55.919
<v Speaker 2>I mean I would say that I have put most

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 2>of ths into one basket because you know what, I'm like,

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 2>all or nothing, Like if unless I'm really into someone,

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't even look like talking to them, and so

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 2>I think I would say that I definitely wouldn't like

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 2>close conversations with other people, but mainly my eggs would

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 2>be in one basket.

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, but not you right?

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 4>Uh, Well, like I keep saying, I came out of

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 4>a relationship where I don't want to emotionally invest in

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:26.879
<v Speaker 4>a basket and put all my eggs in there.

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>So how many baskets are your eggs in? How many?

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 3>How many baskets are I running?

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 1>How many eggs do you have?

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm running out of I'm not.

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:40.759
<v Speaker 4>When you put eggs into When you put eggs in

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:43.840
<v Speaker 4>someone's basket, you have to be I feel getting invested

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 4>in that, and you have to feel emotions towards yeah,

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 4>somewhat so like, but then you say that even talking

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 4>to someone is putting energy into that totally.

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 2>And that's and that's the thing is when you're putting

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 2>all of your energy into multiple people, I feel like

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:00.439
<v Speaker 2>you would be depleted by the end of it because

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 2>you're giving so much of yourself to people.

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>And also, like, how did guys date more than one girl?

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Like how would you remember what everyone said?

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 3>I played the card. I don't have a ship memory.

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 2>No you don't, So you tell girls that you have

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 2>like a short term memory loss or something.

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 4>Well, in my defense, a lot of things I say,

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 4>as you know me is off the cuff. So a

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:23.760
<v Speaker 4>lot of things. I don't put much thought into saying.

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:26.720
<v Speaker 2>But if you've had a conversation with one person, surely,

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 2>oh remember that, I'll recall that. But if you're having

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 2>the same conversation with multiple girls, then you just use this.

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:33.439
<v Speaker 1>It's more the memory loss.

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 3>It's chats with people and you know, just off the

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 3>cuff stuff that I say.

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>See, I think that's a toxic male trait.

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 2>The moment that you confront a guy about something and

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 2>then they all of a sudden have amnesia.

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's a red flat.

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 3>How did your mate go? Did he did something like that?

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh, he had amnesia and then all of a sudden

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:53.879
<v Speaker 1>it all became clear.

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 4>Was there a situation where he called that card? Or

0:36:57.320 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 4>what do you mean that he didn't remember? Or he

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 4>said something true enough to you and he got his

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 4>wires crossed?

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh totally.

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 2>And as a girl, you pick up on it instantly,

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 2>and it's a huge red flag, you know.

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel like when.

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Those moments come, ladies, be aware, be on take note,

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 2>write a red flags list.

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that all girls should write down.

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 2>A list of the red flags, even if you really

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 2>like a guy, just in case, Just in case, it

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 2>doesn't work out, and then you can look at all

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 2>the red flags and be like, actually, maybe because it's

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 2>not that good, and it'll make yourself feel a little

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 2>bit better. And that's our relationship suck. And dating in

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one sucks because everyone gets.

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 4>I've spoken to you, I've spoken to a girl, and

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 4>I could literally tell I was not her main priority.

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 4>Real I was not the main guy she was talking to.

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 4>I was literally she would take up till like twenty

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 4>four hours. A reply flaked on me a couple of times,

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 4>not keen, and I was just like, you know what

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 4>it is, what it is. I'm not in this boat

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 4>where I want to go full ball to the wall

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 4>with her.

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 3>So I was like, it is what it is.

0:37:57.640 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was like, yeah, yeah, that would have

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 2>definitely your ego, your ego that put her on a

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 2>big old pedestal for you.

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about that. Let's talk about how playing hard

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:17.439
<v Speaker 1>to get, Like, does playing hard to get work?

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 4>It depends on the girl. Sometimes it plays hard to get,

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 4>I'll play forget. It depends on the girl, depends on the.

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Situation, depends the value that you're placing on this.

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Girl, on that girl. What about yourself.

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I was seeing someone months back and

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:37.840
<v Speaker 2>he was playing a little bit hard to get with me.

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:38.720
<v Speaker 4>And now.

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:42.919
<v Speaker 3>That look, that's a brave move how.

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:46.760
<v Speaker 2>That plays, And honestly, I actually think it kind of works.

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, if you're going

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 2>to like someone, you're going to like them, and if

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 2>you're not, you're not. And what I think happened was

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 2>it just prolonged the inevitable, Like me and him were

0:38:57.719 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 2>never going to work out because it was a different

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 2>some personality, but him playing hard to get probably extended

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 2>our situationship period maybe by two months.

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 3>So many how did he play hard to get? Just

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 3>so I know.

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 4>Implementing this, No, I'm just trying to figure out because

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 4>I'd feel that a girl might say play hard to get,

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 4>where honestly I'm.

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:19.800
<v Speaker 3>Just not interested.

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you are to get I just haven't.

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I'm not easy, but like sometimes I

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 4>could feel that like a girl's messaging me, like messaging

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 4>mess with me, and like maybe I'm not interested and

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm not a ghoster, so I'm not I'm not just

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm too I'm too I'm too nice and to consider

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 4>it because I would hate to be ghosted. So I'll reply,

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 4>but pick up that this isn't going anywhere, you know

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. There's not much energy being put into

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 4>these masters that much thought. Do you know I recently

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 4>got ghosted. I'll express that on another episode.

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll express that.

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 3>I was explain that story, and so coming up I

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 3>got ghosted. I just took that. I was like, all right,

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:04.279
<v Speaker 3>that's how you want to play, you know what I mean.

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Seem a bit salty about that.

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:10.760
<v Speaker 3>Play hard to get. I'll play forget.

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 2>But I'm feeling a bit of salt coming from you

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 2>about that. You are a bit upset about it, Yeah.

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you don't just not reply. We've been chatting

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:20.800
<v Speaker 3>for a bit pretty intensely.

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 2>So I went on a first date with someone recently,

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:27.879
<v Speaker 2>somewhat recently, and then I was after the day being

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 2>very distant, like I was replying twelve hours later, and

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't really getting the hint. So I might have

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 2>ghosted him. But now I'm starting to feel bad about it.

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.719
<v Speaker 2>So I feel like I should message him and just say, hey,

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 2>probably look down that barrel and give him a nice apology.

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:49.959
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's just it's so uncomfortable having these conversations with people,

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 2>especially when you don't notice people that well. But it

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 2>is the wrong thing to do by me, and I

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 2>feel like after this episode gonna I'm going to rectify

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 2>that situation and maybe send them a message because I

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 2>do feel bad about it.

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>But sometimes like putting your head in the sand and

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 1>just forgetting that it happened.

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 4>But this is what it's about dating in twenty twenty one.

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 4>These things happen. People get ghosted people. You know, you

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 4>ghost people, you burn people. It is what it is.

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 2>It's just like, I feel like we live in such

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:23.399
<v Speaker 2>a fast paced world and society and we just all

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:26.920
<v Speaker 2>get things so quickly. It's the instant gratification, and when

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 2>something doesn't work out, we're just like next, Like let's

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 2>let's head, let's let's keep like fowling forward to.

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 3>The He's next in the dan, He's the next in

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:39.320
<v Speaker 3>the tens.

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, on our next.

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 4>Episode, we're going to be talking about breakups. My breakup

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:49.959
<v Speaker 4>with Josh, my breakup with Kira.

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:51.879
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, stay tuned. It's going to be really fun.

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.399
<v Speaker 2>If you have a friend who is recently going through

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 2>a breakup, if you are going through a breakup, if.

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 1>You know someone send them the episode. We'd love for you,

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>guys to chune in and see you next time.

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 3>See you next time, guys.

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 2>Bye bye, y

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<v Speaker 1>M hm