1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apodjay production. 2 00:00:10,121 --> 00:00:13,521 Speaker 2: We begin today by acknowledging the traditional custodians of the 3 00:00:13,601 --> 00:00:16,401 Speaker 2: land on which we gather today and pay our respects 4 00:00:16,481 --> 00:00:19,641 Speaker 2: to their elders past and present. We extend that respect 5 00:00:19,721 --> 00:00:22,881 Speaker 2: to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people's here today. 6 00:00:25,081 --> 00:00:28,801 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Grow and Glow Podcast. I'm Ashy, I'm Kiara. 7 00:00:28,961 --> 00:00:31,321 Speaker 3: This is a podcast where we learn, laugh, and level 8 00:00:31,401 --> 00:00:31,841 Speaker 3: up together. 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,641 Speaker 1: Let's go deep, let the emotions flow, and find the 10 00:00:34,721 --> 00:00:37,481 Speaker 1: lessons to Grow and Glow. Nothing is off the table 11 00:00:37,521 --> 00:00:39,881 Speaker 1: with Grow and Glow, and we're here to be your expander. 12 00:00:43,801 --> 00:00:46,481 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Guys. I cannot wait for this episode. 13 00:00:46,521 --> 00:00:49,361 Speaker 1: I need to hear every detail because I need to 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: put my husband in. Tell us what today's we. 15 00:00:52,321 --> 00:00:56,241 Speaker 3: Are talking about, Kurtie finally booking in. Gon't get it. 16 00:00:59,921 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: I've had such mixed reviews. I've had women who have 17 00:01:02,281 --> 00:01:03,721 Speaker 3: a messaged me and be like, this is the best 18 00:01:03,721 --> 00:01:06,281 Speaker 3: decision we ever made, and then other people messaging I 19 00:01:06,281 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: think because about age, maybe being like you seem really 20 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,921 Speaker 3: young to be like doing something like this. How old's 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: Curdy for reference thirty one, Curty thirty one. I'm thirty 22 00:01:16,121 --> 00:01:19,041 Speaker 3: almost thirty one. Yeah, but I mean we have three kids. Yes, 23 00:01:19,121 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: we have very beautiful, beautiful kids. Were so happy, both genders. Yes. 24 00:01:24,241 --> 00:01:27,761 Speaker 3: And how it kind of like came about was well, 25 00:01:27,801 --> 00:01:30,961 Speaker 3: actually a year ago. So twelve months ago, Curtie went 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,561 Speaker 3: to the doctors and got a referral to go and 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,681 Speaker 3: get a vasectomy because we knew that we wanted to 28 00:01:35,681 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: do it. He went and got it, but we weren't like, oh, 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: we'll get it straight away. We just kind of like 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,881 Speaker 3: had it sitting there and we kept like pushing it off, 31 00:01:40,961 --> 00:01:42,601 Speaker 3: pushing it off. And as time went on, more and 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: more it's like we got more and more sure that 33 00:01:44,801 --> 00:01:47,761 Speaker 3: it was the decision that we wanted to make. And 34 00:01:47,801 --> 00:01:49,961 Speaker 3: then I was at a girlfriend's house and all of 35 00:01:50,041 --> 00:01:52,201 Speaker 3: us girls were sitting around chatting and they were like 36 00:01:52,241 --> 00:01:54,401 Speaker 3: talking about different scares and things that happened, and then 37 00:01:54,401 --> 00:01:56,201 Speaker 3: they looked at me and they're like, what would you 38 00:01:56,241 --> 00:02:00,361 Speaker 3: do if you happened to fell pregnant? And I was like, wow, 39 00:02:00,801 --> 00:02:03,921 Speaker 3: I feel like personally myself in the situation I'm in, 40 00:02:04,041 --> 00:02:06,601 Speaker 3: I believe like everything happens for a reason. I'm like, 41 00:02:06,641 --> 00:02:08,241 Speaker 3: if something like that happened, I would kind of just 42 00:02:08,281 --> 00:02:11,321 Speaker 3: go it's meant to be. But do I want to 43 00:02:11,361 --> 00:02:12,081 Speaker 3: be in that situation? 44 00:02:13,161 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: No, I don't. 45 00:02:14,161 --> 00:02:17,361 Speaker 3: I am not a good pregnant woman. 46 00:02:17,401 --> 00:02:18,601 Speaker 1: I'm not a good pregnant woman. 47 00:02:19,121 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: I feel so content with three kids. In fact, sometimes 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,681 Speaker 3: in moments, I've been really honest with Ashi about this, 49 00:02:25,841 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: but with having three that at this age, sometimes if 50 00:02:29,841 --> 00:02:32,641 Speaker 3: one is needing you and then another one is needing you, 51 00:02:32,721 --> 00:02:34,681 Speaker 3: it can be really tough to be there to support 52 00:02:34,721 --> 00:02:36,321 Speaker 3: like two kids at once. In fact, I feel like 53 00:02:36,321 --> 00:02:38,041 Speaker 3: they feed off the energy and sometimes all three are 54 00:02:38,081 --> 00:02:39,361 Speaker 3: like that. And then Kurt and I like trying it. 55 00:02:39,361 --> 00:02:41,601 Speaker 3: I'm like pulling him away from work and you know, 56 00:02:41,601 --> 00:02:44,001 Speaker 3: trying to juggle them. And I feel like we have 57 00:02:44,121 --> 00:02:46,521 Speaker 3: got such a beautiful balance and I'm really proud of 58 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: the way that we parent. And I feel like if 59 00:02:48,401 --> 00:02:51,041 Speaker 3: he threw one more into the mix, I feel like 60 00:02:51,161 --> 00:02:54,561 Speaker 3: I couldn't give as much of me for two to 61 00:02:54,601 --> 00:02:55,041 Speaker 3: go three. 62 00:02:55,161 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't feel like I could do three. Well. 63 00:02:57,001 --> 00:02:59,641 Speaker 3: There are moments that are tough. There definitely are sit 64 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,521 Speaker 3: out numbered. You are outnumbered. 65 00:03:01,761 --> 00:03:03,481 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you go with a taj, I've got 66 00:03:03,481 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: Tala or vice versa, and you can give them all 67 00:03:05,161 --> 00:03:07,801 Speaker 1: your attention, but like three but so I know what 68 00:03:07,841 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: you mean. I feel like it's yeah. 69 00:03:10,041 --> 00:03:13,201 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. And I feel like even especially these first 70 00:03:13,281 --> 00:03:16,681 Speaker 3: years before they've started school, like trying to be around 71 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,841 Speaker 3: a lot, and even you know, both of us with 72 00:03:18,921 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: business and that we've made a lot of sacrifice wanting 73 00:03:21,281 --> 00:03:22,881 Speaker 3: to be with our kids, and that's our choice and 74 00:03:22,881 --> 00:03:26,081 Speaker 3: we're so grateful that we've had that choice. But we've 75 00:03:26,081 --> 00:03:29,561 Speaker 3: only got another year and a couple months and then 76 00:03:29,601 --> 00:03:32,081 Speaker 3: Reagan's in school two yeah, and we're like out of 77 00:03:32,081 --> 00:03:34,481 Speaker 3: that zone and we can go more ham in our 78 00:03:34,481 --> 00:03:37,001 Speaker 3: career if we want to, or I could go like, okay, 79 00:03:37,001 --> 00:03:38,841 Speaker 3: I really want you this course. I can actually have 80 00:03:38,921 --> 00:03:40,281 Speaker 3: the time and space to be able to, you know, 81 00:03:40,521 --> 00:03:43,321 Speaker 3: expand or do something a bit different. So for us, 82 00:03:43,401 --> 00:03:45,121 Speaker 3: we kind of just sat down and spoke about it, 83 00:03:45,361 --> 00:03:48,161 Speaker 3: and Kurt was like, I definitely don't have the capacity 84 00:03:48,481 --> 00:03:51,001 Speaker 3: to have another baby, and I was like, neither do 85 00:03:51,081 --> 00:03:53,761 Speaker 3: I Even just the pregnancy alone freaks me out. So 86 00:03:53,801 --> 00:03:55,801 Speaker 3: he was like, I'm just gonna call up. I'll see 87 00:03:55,801 --> 00:03:57,241 Speaker 3: what they have to say. He phoned up and they 88 00:03:57,281 --> 00:03:59,401 Speaker 3: were like, we literally just had a cancelation. We've got 89 00:03:59,401 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: one next Wednesday to be so it was like six 90 00:04:02,041 --> 00:04:04,201 Speaker 3: dam I know, you had like no time to really 91 00:04:04,281 --> 00:04:06,521 Speaker 3: think about it a good thing. It was really good. 92 00:04:06,601 --> 00:04:09,321 Speaker 3: So it was like six days later. Yeah, I didn't 93 00:04:09,361 --> 00:04:11,881 Speaker 3: really know what to expect because not many of our 94 00:04:11,921 --> 00:04:15,241 Speaker 3: friends have actually had a vasectomy. But Curtie was like, 95 00:04:15,281 --> 00:04:16,521 Speaker 3: he put his hand up, he was like, I'll get 96 00:04:16,561 --> 00:04:18,481 Speaker 3: it done. He's like, you had a C section, you 97 00:04:18,521 --> 00:04:20,521 Speaker 3: have one of your tubes come out, you've been pregnanty charm. 98 00:04:20,561 --> 00:04:22,481 Speaker 3: He's like, I'll do this one for you, baby, thank 99 00:04:22,521 --> 00:04:25,281 Speaker 3: you for us, Yeah, for us. Yeah, I didn't really 100 00:04:25,281 --> 00:04:27,001 Speaker 3: know what to expect, so I put it out of 101 00:04:27,001 --> 00:04:28,281 Speaker 3: my stories and I was like, what am I in 102 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,841 Speaker 3: for guys? Like is this going to be like a 103 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,681 Speaker 3: two week thing? Is this going to be like a 104 00:04:31,721 --> 00:04:33,681 Speaker 3: few day things Like, I have no idea, And I 105 00:04:33,721 --> 00:04:34,761 Speaker 3: really got a mixed. 106 00:04:34,481 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: Bag to say, it would have been a mixed bag. 107 00:04:36,601 --> 00:04:38,921 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think what I've really come to realize 108 00:04:38,961 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: is it probably is really dependent on the person who 109 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,241 Speaker 3: actually does a job. Because I had some women being 110 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,881 Speaker 3: like it was so bruised it was black and like 111 00:04:46,281 --> 00:04:50,161 Speaker 3: Kurd had no bruising, not any bruising at all. But anyway, 112 00:04:50,241 --> 00:04:52,761 Speaker 3: he was pretty calm and cool and collected up until 113 00:04:52,761 --> 00:04:55,161 Speaker 3: the day of and then he was like, Babe, I'm 114 00:04:55,201 --> 00:04:58,561 Speaker 3: really nervous. I think it was just a fact of 115 00:04:58,641 --> 00:05:02,441 Speaker 3: having to like get your package out in front of Yeah, 116 00:05:02,481 --> 00:05:03,801 Speaker 3: like it's a lot to think about. 117 00:05:03,841 --> 00:05:04,961 Speaker 1: It's something you do every day. 118 00:05:05,241 --> 00:05:09,041 Speaker 3: No, So anyways, we drove in there and he went 119 00:05:09,201 --> 00:05:10,841 Speaker 3: in and he thought it was only going to be 120 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,401 Speaker 3: quite a quick thing and end up actually taking a 121 00:05:12,401 --> 00:05:14,961 Speaker 3: bit longer than what we thought. But he went and 122 00:05:15,001 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: he laid in on the table and there's like a 123 00:05:16,841 --> 00:05:19,241 Speaker 3: nurse in there, and they're like, get away your clothes off, 124 00:05:19,241 --> 00:05:20,601 Speaker 3: and he had to be like little sheets, like this 125 00:05:20,681 --> 00:05:23,841 Speaker 3: tiny little sheet just like covering his privates. And then 126 00:05:23,961 --> 00:05:26,041 Speaker 3: the guy came in. He was like, I'm gonna put 127 00:05:26,041 --> 00:05:27,921 Speaker 3: a thing in your arm and it's going to make 128 00:05:27,961 --> 00:05:29,841 Speaker 3: you feel really drunk and you'll just like go to 129 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,601 Speaker 3: sleep like most people just get knocked out and fall asleep. 130 00:05:32,361 --> 00:05:33,001 Speaker 1: Get put to sleep. 131 00:05:33,241 --> 00:05:36,161 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not anesthetic. It's like a happy gas 132 00:05:36,201 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: type thing, I'm guessing, but you have enough of a 133 00:05:38,241 --> 00:05:40,281 Speaker 3: dose to like make you go to sleep, like you 134 00:05:40,281 --> 00:05:41,881 Speaker 3: go in and out of sleep. You're just not with it. 135 00:05:42,601 --> 00:05:44,601 Speaker 3: I think you can go under and get anesthetic though 136 00:05:44,641 --> 00:05:45,001 Speaker 3: as well. 137 00:05:45,081 --> 00:05:46,561 Speaker 1: Okay, but he. 138 00:05:46,601 --> 00:05:50,241 Speaker 3: Had given him the stuff for it, and the guy 139 00:05:50,281 --> 00:05:52,921 Speaker 3: starts doing everything, and Kurt must have fallen asleep at 140 00:05:52,921 --> 00:05:55,961 Speaker 3: the start, I'm guessing. And then he's woken up halfway 141 00:05:55,961 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: through and he's looked down and he's like, ah, he 142 00:06:00,561 --> 00:06:04,121 Speaker 3: goes that fucking hats and the guy was burning because 143 00:06:04,161 --> 00:06:06,001 Speaker 3: what they do is they open it. There's like these tubes, 144 00:06:06,081 --> 00:06:09,121 Speaker 3: there's a three step process or something. He's like burning 145 00:06:09,121 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: the thing and the guy looks at Kurt and he's like, 146 00:06:11,681 --> 00:06:14,681 Speaker 3: you're not supposed to be awake. No, So then he 147 00:06:14,721 --> 00:06:17,921 Speaker 3: had to grab this big needle and jamminykurts, don't let 148 00:06:17,921 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: your husbands listen to this part Germany, Curt's nuts to 149 00:06:21,561 --> 00:06:25,081 Speaker 3: numb it. They don't put the numbing stuff on you're asleep. 150 00:06:26,001 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: No. 151 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,241 Speaker 3: But then Kurt said he was just chatting to him 152 00:06:28,241 --> 00:06:29,241 Speaker 3: the whole time he was doing it. 153 00:06:29,281 --> 00:06:30,081 Speaker 1: Is that not a common? 154 00:06:30,161 --> 00:06:32,281 Speaker 3: Not common? He said normally that. He said, you just 155 00:06:32,361 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: must have a really high tolerance to that sort of stuff. 156 00:06:36,481 --> 00:06:36,721 Speaker 1: Yes. 157 00:06:37,001 --> 00:06:39,001 Speaker 3: So then Kurt's like, there's this guy, this older guy, 158 00:06:39,121 --> 00:06:40,921 Speaker 3: just playing with my nuts and I'm having chatted to 159 00:06:40,961 --> 00:06:43,201 Speaker 3: him for half an hour while he's doing everything. 160 00:06:43,201 --> 00:06:45,441 Speaker 1: It's fully nam you can't feel a thing, no, fully numb. 161 00:06:45,521 --> 00:06:48,041 Speaker 3: Like once he's stat at the needle, apparently he's a 162 00:06:48,081 --> 00:06:51,041 Speaker 3: little bit painful. And yeah, he came out to me. 163 00:06:51,281 --> 00:06:55,041 Speaker 3: He seemed like he was so drunk. He's like walking 164 00:06:55,041 --> 00:06:56,681 Speaker 3: to and he's like, yeah, I told my wife, will 165 00:06:56,681 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 3: come get it for like chatting to the nurse about 166 00:06:58,841 --> 00:07:01,521 Speaker 3: all these things. I'm just so hungry, like just chatting 167 00:07:01,521 --> 00:07:04,801 Speaker 3: about all different funny things. The recovery. Honestly, I had 168 00:07:04,801 --> 00:07:07,761 Speaker 3: so were asking what it was like, and it was 169 00:07:08,761 --> 00:07:09,721 Speaker 3: it was amazing. 170 00:07:09,801 --> 00:07:11,521 Speaker 1: Out of ten? What is it? Five out of ten? 171 00:07:11,601 --> 00:07:12,281 Speaker 1: Seven out of ten? 172 00:07:12,521 --> 00:07:16,001 Speaker 3: Oh, I reckon, it's like a two. He did rest 173 00:07:16,081 --> 00:07:18,881 Speaker 3: that afternoon when we got home. I say that he 174 00:07:19,001 --> 00:07:20,961 Speaker 3: like sat on the chair. He wasn't even laying down. 175 00:07:21,521 --> 00:07:23,161 Speaker 3: And then he still like would waddle up to go 176 00:07:23,281 --> 00:07:27,521 Speaker 3: get stuff bottle, go to the toilet and get food 177 00:07:27,561 --> 00:07:28,961 Speaker 3: and that. And then the next day he had a 178 00:07:29,161 --> 00:07:31,241 Speaker 3: slower day where he just kind of hung out, but 179 00:07:31,281 --> 00:07:33,241 Speaker 3: he came for a drive in the car. After that 180 00:07:33,281 --> 00:07:35,561 Speaker 3: he was perfect. He was up doing everything. He was 181 00:07:35,601 --> 00:07:39,641 Speaker 3: back at the gym, I think it was like five days. Wow, 182 00:07:40,241 --> 00:07:42,121 Speaker 3: he didn't last five days? You know how you're not 183 00:07:42,121 --> 00:07:45,121 Speaker 3: going to have sex for five days? Oh yeah, yeah no, 184 00:07:45,321 --> 00:07:46,001 Speaker 3: And it was fine. 185 00:07:46,201 --> 00:07:46,481 Speaker 1: Yeah. 186 00:07:46,521 --> 00:07:49,481 Speaker 3: But then again, like I said, he didn't have any 187 00:07:49,641 --> 00:07:52,721 Speaker 3: bruising or anything, and he's healed amazing, Like, yeah, there 188 00:07:52,721 --> 00:07:54,481 Speaker 3: was no point that I looked at it and was like, oh, 189 00:07:54,521 --> 00:07:56,561 Speaker 3: it was just like tiny little slice and now like 190 00:07:56,601 --> 00:07:56,961 Speaker 3: there's like. 191 00:07:57,081 --> 00:07:59,521 Speaker 1: Nothing incision was it? Yeah, yeah, okay. 192 00:07:59,361 --> 00:08:01,761 Speaker 3: Tiny little incision. So I don't know if there's different 193 00:08:01,801 --> 00:08:04,601 Speaker 3: ways of getting it done, but yeah, no, his was 194 00:08:04,761 --> 00:08:07,961 Speaker 3: very straightforward. And it just feels so nice now that 195 00:08:08,041 --> 00:08:11,521 Speaker 3: we're nearly at the place where we just don't have 196 00:08:11,601 --> 00:08:13,201 Speaker 3: to worry about it. So what he has to do 197 00:08:13,401 --> 00:08:19,921 Speaker 3: now is he has to wait three months and go 198 00:08:20,121 --> 00:08:24,001 Speaker 3: and get a test done, so has to have like 199 00:08:24,041 --> 00:08:26,201 Speaker 3: sperm in the car. The good thing as well these 200 00:08:26,281 --> 00:08:28,241 Speaker 3: days is if your partner's a bit worried about that, 201 00:08:28,441 --> 00:08:30,121 Speaker 3: is they actually you have an hour to get it there, 202 00:08:30,361 --> 00:08:32,201 Speaker 3: so you can do it at home and drive it in. 203 00:08:32,761 --> 00:08:34,401 Speaker 3: You don't have to do it actually in the waiting room. 204 00:08:34,481 --> 00:08:35,961 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that. 205 00:08:35,961 --> 00:08:37,841 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is good because that was something Kurt was 206 00:08:37,881 --> 00:08:41,681 Speaker 3: like a bit like ooh about and then if they 207 00:08:42,081 --> 00:08:44,201 Speaker 3: still have live sperm in that, you don't have to 208 00:08:44,201 --> 00:08:46,361 Speaker 3: get it redone or anything. You just got to wait longer. 209 00:08:46,721 --> 00:08:49,361 Speaker 3: So you wait another month or two, it will eventually stop. 210 00:08:49,441 --> 00:08:50,881 Speaker 1: Two weeks. It's actually a long. 211 00:08:50,881 --> 00:08:54,881 Speaker 3: No, yes, three months yeah minimum to go back and 212 00:08:54,921 --> 00:08:55,841 Speaker 3: start getting the test. 213 00:08:55,761 --> 00:08:56,881 Speaker 1: Done happening inside. 214 00:08:57,081 --> 00:08:59,441 Speaker 3: So what happens is it kills all the sperm that's 215 00:08:59,441 --> 00:09:01,281 Speaker 3: been created, but they're still all that live sperm there, 216 00:09:01,321 --> 00:09:03,161 Speaker 3: so you need to have all of it come out. 217 00:09:03,961 --> 00:09:07,161 Speaker 3: I see there's only dead ones, so they're still live 218 00:09:07,201 --> 00:09:09,881 Speaker 3: ones in there. Yeah, and then they would even mix 219 00:09:09,921 --> 00:09:12,281 Speaker 3: with the dead ones. So it's like making sure that 220 00:09:12,361 --> 00:09:18,001 Speaker 3: they all come out every single three months. Okay, yeah, yeah, 221 00:09:18,481 --> 00:09:21,521 Speaker 3: I know, but really straightforward. Good on KURTI, well done, 222 00:09:21,761 --> 00:09:23,041 Speaker 3: well done the team. 223 00:09:23,281 --> 00:09:26,521 Speaker 1: Definitely, yeah, ste he's been very resistant. He's worried if 224 00:09:26,521 --> 00:09:29,481 Speaker 1: you've done any research on like your chakras, Like he's 225 00:09:29,601 --> 00:09:32,201 Speaker 1: very worried it's kind of like disrupt his charkras. But 226 00:09:32,241 --> 00:09:36,121 Speaker 1: I was also like, is that true through you're just scared. Yeah, 227 00:09:36,161 --> 00:09:37,841 Speaker 1: But he just said to me because when Curtie was 228 00:09:37,881 --> 00:09:39,921 Speaker 1: having it, I was like, look, Kat's doing so great bla. 229 00:09:40,001 --> 00:09:42,561 Speaker 1: He was like, Babe, with your surgery, with Black Friday 230 00:09:42,601 --> 00:09:44,201 Speaker 1: coming up, you go to Europe, Like, I just don't 231 00:09:44,201 --> 00:09:47,241 Speaker 1: have the space this year, but let's like revisit next year. 232 00:09:47,521 --> 00:09:50,681 Speaker 1: So January first, I'll be bringing it up. I would 233 00:09:50,681 --> 00:09:52,241 Speaker 1: just love to not have to worry because I feel 234 00:09:52,241 --> 00:09:54,641 Speaker 1: the same as you. If I was to fall pregnant, 235 00:09:54,681 --> 00:09:56,641 Speaker 1: like I believe it would be a little boy. I 236 00:09:56,681 --> 00:09:58,001 Speaker 1: know what the name would be. It would be meant 237 00:09:58,001 --> 00:10:00,561 Speaker 1: to be, and I'd be like, Okay, this is meant 238 00:10:00,561 --> 00:10:02,961 Speaker 1: to happen. But I'm so content with two. 239 00:10:03,201 --> 00:10:03,401 Speaker 2: Yeah. 240 00:10:03,481 --> 00:10:06,881 Speaker 1: I love our kids, I love dynamic. Steve's not getting 241 00:10:06,881 --> 00:10:09,321 Speaker 1: any younger like he is older. I just don't see 242 00:10:09,361 --> 00:10:11,761 Speaker 1: us having another one. So I'd rather just be able 243 00:10:11,801 --> 00:10:14,481 Speaker 1: to not track what I'm populating and like not worry 244 00:10:14,521 --> 00:10:16,521 Speaker 1: about it because each month I do have that moment 245 00:10:16,561 --> 00:10:18,521 Speaker 1: of like, and if my periods like a day or 246 00:10:18,561 --> 00:10:20,721 Speaker 1: two late, I do kind of panic a little bit. Yeah, 247 00:10:20,801 --> 00:10:23,081 Speaker 1: because I've made that decision that I just want the 248 00:10:23,121 --> 00:10:25,401 Speaker 1: two that we've got. Yeah, so I'm the same as you. 249 00:10:25,441 --> 00:10:27,481 Speaker 1: I just don't want to I don't know, I don't 250 00:10:27,481 --> 00:10:30,041 Speaker 1: want any negative feelings if I was to fall pregnant. 251 00:10:29,681 --> 00:10:32,561 Speaker 3: And even when you're using protection, it doesn't work all 252 00:10:32,561 --> 00:10:34,481 Speaker 3: the time. Like you don't eat condoms, they only work 253 00:10:34,521 --> 00:10:35,441 Speaker 3: eighty percent of the time. 254 00:10:35,721 --> 00:10:37,961 Speaker 1: We don't use condoms, we pull out method but even that, 255 00:10:38,001 --> 00:10:41,961 Speaker 1: it's like it's like my nineties percentage is going to work. 256 00:10:42,281 --> 00:10:43,841 Speaker 1: H but pre come, you can fall pregnant. 257 00:10:43,961 --> 00:10:46,841 Speaker 3: It's so there's always that little rest, there's always that 258 00:10:46,881 --> 00:10:49,521 Speaker 3: little niggle. And something I will say though, is on 259 00:10:49,561 --> 00:10:51,401 Speaker 3: the day that I knew Kurt was getting it done, 260 00:10:51,801 --> 00:10:53,641 Speaker 3: it does bring up those feelings of being like this 261 00:10:53,801 --> 00:10:56,921 Speaker 3: is actually yes. So I did have that little bit 262 00:10:56,961 --> 00:10:58,841 Speaker 3: of an emotional like I was so fine. I didn't 263 00:10:58,841 --> 00:11:01,201 Speaker 3: cry or anything, but I was just kind of like, oh, 264 00:11:01,241 --> 00:11:03,841 Speaker 3: like those were the best days of our life. Yeah, 265 00:11:03,881 --> 00:11:05,561 Speaker 3: and I'm so glad we got them as amazing, but 266 00:11:05,561 --> 00:11:07,481 Speaker 3: it's kind of like going like it's not going to 267 00:11:07,521 --> 00:11:08,001 Speaker 3: happen again. 268 00:11:08,801 --> 00:11:12,241 Speaker 1: Closing, Yeah, a whole new phase. Yeah. 269 00:11:12,281 --> 00:11:14,561 Speaker 3: So there's not one part of me that was like 270 00:11:15,121 --> 00:11:17,081 Speaker 3: I don't want to do this and I don't feel 271 00:11:17,081 --> 00:11:19,121 Speaker 3: like this isn't the right choice. But it was just 272 00:11:19,201 --> 00:11:22,241 Speaker 3: like I think, no matter what, it's always just feels like, 273 00:11:22,281 --> 00:11:23,281 Speaker 3: oh that's it, Like. 274 00:11:23,641 --> 00:11:27,041 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I still have micro moments where I'm like, 275 00:11:27,361 --> 00:11:28,961 Speaker 1: I can't We're going to get to experience this again, 276 00:11:28,961 --> 00:11:31,241 Speaker 1: like with Tiler being such a cute age, yes, and 277 00:11:31,321 --> 00:11:33,241 Speaker 1: she's like starting to string your words together and she 278 00:11:33,521 --> 00:11:35,241 Speaker 1: sprints when you walk in the door to you and 279 00:11:35,361 --> 00:11:37,801 Speaker 1: just like so cute and always say this if like 280 00:11:37,841 --> 00:11:40,441 Speaker 1: it's really sad, this is last time. So I had 281 00:11:40,441 --> 00:11:41,321 Speaker 1: those moments too, But. 282 00:11:41,281 --> 00:11:43,721 Speaker 3: Then you have a hard day and like not fuck 283 00:11:43,801 --> 00:11:47,441 Speaker 3: that even the stuff going on, like actually knows the 284 00:11:47,441 --> 00:11:48,761 Speaker 3: depth of what I've kind of been going through at 285 00:11:48,801 --> 00:11:51,001 Speaker 3: the moment. But we've been going to doctor between two 286 00:11:51,001 --> 00:11:53,601 Speaker 3: of our kids, doctor's appointments, pediatrician appoinments. Then you've got 287 00:11:53,601 --> 00:11:56,401 Speaker 3: the after school activities and you know, it's a whole lot. 288 00:11:56,521 --> 00:11:58,281 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I just don't think I would be 289 00:11:58,281 --> 00:12:00,441 Speaker 3: proud of the mother that I was if I had 290 00:12:00,481 --> 00:12:02,721 Speaker 3: any more kids. And I want to give everything I 291 00:12:02,761 --> 00:12:06,641 Speaker 3: can to my kids, you know, so lucky to have. 292 00:12:06,681 --> 00:12:10,201 Speaker 1: Them, so lucky. Yeah, I feel very content as well. 293 00:12:10,681 --> 00:12:14,081 Speaker 3: Oh go Curti, it's done, Go Curti or done all 294 00:12:15,321 --> 00:12:15,921 Speaker 3: that's really cool. 295 00:12:15,961 --> 00:12:17,801 Speaker 1: I'm glad to let you share that story. And hotually 296 00:12:18,161 --> 00:12:20,041 Speaker 1: inspires some other men to go and get it because 297 00:12:20,081 --> 00:12:22,081 Speaker 1: we were talking about I haven't told you too, You 298 00:12:22,081 --> 00:12:23,441 Speaker 1: know how you were going through a phase where you 299 00:12:23,441 --> 00:12:26,481 Speaker 1: were thinking about getting a hysterectomy or like something burnt. 300 00:12:27,201 --> 00:12:28,561 Speaker 3: Yes, your periods. 301 00:12:28,921 --> 00:12:31,121 Speaker 1: My mom's had an hysterect me. Yeah, and so has 302 00:12:31,241 --> 00:12:33,201 Speaker 1: the Dean's mum. And my mum speaks so highly, but 303 00:12:33,281 --> 00:12:34,761 Speaker 1: she's like, it is the best thing I ever did 304 00:12:34,801 --> 00:12:37,121 Speaker 1: for myself. She used to get like you. She couldn't 305 00:12:37,121 --> 00:12:38,961 Speaker 1: even walk out of the toilet, like with a power ten, 306 00:12:39,001 --> 00:12:42,401 Speaker 1: and it would be like flooding, like it's very graphic. 307 00:12:42,441 --> 00:12:46,081 Speaker 1: But most of our listeners are females, like heavy periods, 308 00:12:46,321 --> 00:12:49,561 Speaker 1: really bad mood swings, so tired, super bad headaches, like 309 00:12:49,561 --> 00:12:51,561 Speaker 1: every symptom you can think of. And she got a 310 00:12:51,601 --> 00:12:53,281 Speaker 1: hys direct to me and all in a way, you 311 00:12:53,441 --> 00:12:55,721 Speaker 1: never had any symptoms again. She felt so much happier, 312 00:12:55,761 --> 00:12:57,641 Speaker 1: so much more regulated, like she was it was the 313 00:12:57,681 --> 00:12:59,601 Speaker 1: best thing I ever did for myself. So I have 314 00:12:59,761 --> 00:13:01,921 Speaker 1: kind of had in my head I don't really want 315 00:13:01,921 --> 00:13:03,281 Speaker 1: to have periods for the rest of my life. I 316 00:13:03,401 --> 00:13:05,601 Speaker 1: might not even that bad, but it's annoying. 317 00:13:06,121 --> 00:13:08,601 Speaker 3: Do you go through early menopause right when you get 318 00:13:08,601 --> 00:13:09,361 Speaker 3: the hysterectomy. 319 00:13:09,481 --> 00:13:09,961 Speaker 1: I don't know. 320 00:13:10,201 --> 00:13:12,001 Speaker 3: I think you do so. I think once she decided 321 00:13:12,041 --> 00:13:14,321 Speaker 3: to get that, you would have a period of however 322 00:13:14,361 --> 00:13:17,001 Speaker 3: long to navigate that. But if you had the space 323 00:13:17,001 --> 00:13:18,081 Speaker 3: for it and you knew it was coming. 324 00:13:18,401 --> 00:13:20,481 Speaker 1: I don't think my mom had that really. I even 325 00:13:20,521 --> 00:13:22,641 Speaker 1: asked her about menopause and she's like, well, I've never 326 00:13:22,681 --> 00:13:25,481 Speaker 1: had any of those symptoms. Anyways, I went to Levi 327 00:13:25,641 --> 00:13:27,641 Speaker 1: because I was like, I'm gonna say to you, what 328 00:13:27,681 --> 00:13:28,961 Speaker 1: are the cons It's got to be something. 329 00:13:29,041 --> 00:13:29,281 Speaker 3: Yeah. 330 00:13:29,721 --> 00:13:31,041 Speaker 1: I looked at him and I was like, oh, I 331 00:13:31,081 --> 00:13:32,761 Speaker 1: was talking to my girlfriend about his directed me my 332 00:13:32,801 --> 00:13:36,521 Speaker 1: mum's had one. And the look on his face, Wow 333 00:13:36,761 --> 00:13:40,201 Speaker 1: said it all. He was like, please promise me you 334 00:13:40,241 --> 00:13:43,081 Speaker 1: will never get one of those. Like there is so 335 00:13:43,281 --> 00:13:45,281 Speaker 1: many I'm going to butcher the way he said it. 336 00:13:45,601 --> 00:13:48,921 Speaker 1: But with a woman's body, there's just so many hormones 337 00:13:49,001 --> 00:13:51,321 Speaker 1: and like receptors and like messages and like the way 338 00:13:51,361 --> 00:13:53,961 Speaker 1: it all flows together. He's like, you're completely going against 339 00:13:54,321 --> 00:13:56,721 Speaker 1: everything natural that your body is supposed to be doing. 340 00:13:56,761 --> 00:13:58,441 Speaker 1: You were ripping that out of your body and it 341 00:13:58,481 --> 00:13:59,201 Speaker 1: cannot function. 342 00:13:59,281 --> 00:14:02,201 Speaker 3: Well, apparently it can like lower your sex drive and stuff. 343 00:14:01,921 --> 00:14:04,881 Speaker 1: Like that maybe probably yeah, But he was like he 344 00:14:05,081 --> 00:14:06,841 Speaker 1: hasn't got the snip either yet, but he was like, 345 00:14:06,841 --> 00:14:08,441 Speaker 1: this is something that men should be doing if like 346 00:14:08,481 --> 00:14:10,561 Speaker 1: you don't want to have any more children. He's like, 347 00:14:10,721 --> 00:14:13,561 Speaker 1: do not touch it. That's not meant to be removed. 348 00:14:14,201 --> 00:14:16,321 Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, yeah, I had it in 349 00:14:16,361 --> 00:14:18,121 Speaker 1: my head that I will get it done because my 350 00:14:18,201 --> 00:14:20,721 Speaker 1: mum just felt so good from it. 351 00:14:20,721 --> 00:14:22,801 Speaker 3: It's always pros and cons to everything, Yeah, And I 352 00:14:22,841 --> 00:14:24,641 Speaker 3: always think, like, you know, it's even what I say 353 00:14:24,641 --> 00:14:26,561 Speaker 3: all the time is like with my period, Yeah, like 354 00:14:26,601 --> 00:14:28,881 Speaker 3: there's obviously other things going on there, and even like 355 00:14:28,921 --> 00:14:30,641 Speaker 3: a lot of the things I've been doing lately, I've 356 00:14:30,681 --> 00:14:32,321 Speaker 3: been learning about my womb healing. I feel like it's 357 00:14:32,361 --> 00:14:33,401 Speaker 3: all coming from probably that. 358 00:14:33,641 --> 00:14:35,441 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a short in that. It actually came up 359 00:14:35,481 --> 00:14:37,961 Speaker 1: in conversation because we were talking about your periods. You 360 00:14:38,121 --> 00:14:39,281 Speaker 1: told him a little bit about what was going on 361 00:14:39,361 --> 00:14:40,761 Speaker 1: with your family and all of your stress, and he 362 00:14:40,841 --> 00:14:42,801 Speaker 1: was like, of course she had those bad periods. She's 363 00:14:42,841 --> 00:14:46,361 Speaker 1: just gone through something so traumatic in her life with 364 00:14:46,441 --> 00:14:48,841 Speaker 1: her family that was dragged on for so long. Her 365 00:14:48,841 --> 00:14:51,001 Speaker 1: body was in complete fight or flight. She was stressed. 366 00:14:51,041 --> 00:14:55,561 Speaker 1: Twenty four seven. Those symptoms are responding to that stress. Yeah, 367 00:14:55,601 --> 00:14:57,961 Speaker 1: and now she's regulating and she's doing things that help 368 00:14:58,001 --> 00:15:00,961 Speaker 1: her body recover better. Of course the periods have gotten better. Yeah, 369 00:15:01,001 --> 00:15:02,801 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, of course, yeah, 370 00:15:02,801 --> 00:15:05,001 Speaker 1: it makes so much Yeah, it makes so much sense. 371 00:15:05,121 --> 00:15:07,001 Speaker 1: You've got so much in place. But you also like 372 00:15:07,041 --> 00:15:09,761 Speaker 1: your body feels safe now because back then, like you 373 00:15:09,841 --> 00:15:13,441 Speaker 1: were so so bad anxious, upset, like just going through it. 374 00:15:13,521 --> 00:15:15,361 Speaker 3: You know, I really intrigued to try my first one 375 00:15:15,361 --> 00:15:17,321 Speaker 3: without medication. So when your last month, we'll hear, and 376 00:15:17,321 --> 00:15:18,601 Speaker 3: then I was gonna do it this month, but I'll 377 00:15:18,601 --> 00:15:21,161 Speaker 3: wait and see when we get back, because if it 378 00:15:21,161 --> 00:15:22,881 Speaker 3: hasn't come by the time I go home, I'm just 379 00:15:22,921 --> 00:15:24,481 Speaker 3: gonna let it do it. Seeing I want to see 380 00:15:24,521 --> 00:15:26,001 Speaker 3: what happens, because want to see where it's at. 381 00:15:25,921 --> 00:15:28,201 Speaker 1: Because you've still been knowing your saunas and you. 382 00:15:28,041 --> 00:15:30,721 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because mine was so severe that I was 383 00:15:30,801 --> 00:15:33,641 Speaker 3: literally like passing out. So as long as I'm not 384 00:15:33,761 --> 00:15:36,281 Speaker 3: like that, yeah, I don't care about like if I 385 00:15:36,281 --> 00:15:37,441 Speaker 3: if I know I have to have like one day 386 00:15:37,441 --> 00:15:39,081 Speaker 3: at home and I'm real bad or whatever, I can 387 00:15:39,121 --> 00:15:41,161 Speaker 3: try to work around that. If it's one day yeah, 388 00:15:41,201 --> 00:15:43,041 Speaker 3: but it might be be That's what I mean. I've 389 00:15:43,041 --> 00:15:44,081 Speaker 3: just got to see where it's at now. 390 00:15:44,441 --> 00:15:46,081 Speaker 1: And each month might be so different too. Like I 391 00:15:46,081 --> 00:15:48,601 Speaker 1: feel like if I've had months we'reing way busier at 392 00:15:48,641 --> 00:15:51,441 Speaker 1: work or more stressed about something, yeah, I have more 393 00:15:51,481 --> 00:15:54,241 Speaker 1: elevated symptoms. But then if I've got a cruisy month, 394 00:15:54,361 --> 00:15:56,001 Speaker 1: like it's just like I don't even notice, I'm like 395 00:15:56,001 --> 00:15:57,721 Speaker 1: start bleeding. I'm like, oh shit, my period. 396 00:15:57,881 --> 00:15:59,561 Speaker 3: Yeah, And Kurt says it to me too, He said 397 00:15:59,561 --> 00:16:01,761 Speaker 3: to me, Actually, he goes, I think you might have 398 00:16:01,801 --> 00:16:03,241 Speaker 3: a bit of a not great one this month because 399 00:16:03,281 --> 00:16:05,521 Speaker 3: of the stress of the kids. You're just so emotionally 400 00:16:05,561 --> 00:16:07,121 Speaker 3: plunge in that when your kids aren't happy, all this 401 00:16:07,241 --> 00:16:08,401 Speaker 3: thing's going on, you just. 402 00:16:08,521 --> 00:16:11,321 Speaker 1: It's for me stress. Yeah, emotional stress is like one 403 00:16:11,361 --> 00:16:12,521 Speaker 1: of the worst, so hard. 404 00:16:12,601 --> 00:16:14,641 Speaker 3: It'll be interesting, but I'll let you guys know how 405 00:16:14,641 --> 00:16:15,561 Speaker 3: it goes the first time. 406 00:16:15,841 --> 00:16:17,721 Speaker 1: But it's all and around. You've done so well to 407 00:16:17,761 --> 00:16:19,201 Speaker 1: take it from where it was to where it is now. 408 00:16:19,241 --> 00:16:21,841 Speaker 1: And that's a credit to the work that you've done emotionally, 409 00:16:22,121 --> 00:16:26,721 Speaker 1: mentally and physically daily consciously making choices that serve you. 410 00:16:26,721 --> 00:16:29,361 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, because you could have just gone I 411 00:16:29,401 --> 00:16:31,201 Speaker 1: got to his direct me or got it burned or whatever. 412 00:16:31,641 --> 00:16:33,321 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying not like some people. If that's 413 00:16:33,321 --> 00:16:34,481 Speaker 1: what you've got to do, that's what you've gotta do. 414 00:16:35,121 --> 00:16:39,361 Speaker 1: I encourage invite everyone to try a holistic way first. Definitely, 415 00:16:39,481 --> 00:16:41,641 Speaker 1: it's much more kinder on your body. Yeah, and you 416 00:16:41,681 --> 00:16:43,881 Speaker 1: did that, and if you've got an awesome outcome so far. 417 00:16:43,921 --> 00:16:45,881 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm interested as well. I told Ashley, I've just 418 00:16:45,921 --> 00:16:48,921 Speaker 3: done some genetic testing and even just I'm so intrigued 419 00:16:48,921 --> 00:16:50,921 Speaker 3: to see because there's anaturopath that's looking at it with 420 00:16:50,961 --> 00:16:52,881 Speaker 3: me as well. Yeah, like what she has to say, 421 00:16:52,881 --> 00:16:54,161 Speaker 3: and like see if there's things I can help with 422 00:16:54,161 --> 00:16:58,961 Speaker 3: that le as well. 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