1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Isaiah Yo. The very first Panthers have reached two hundred 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: and fifty games for the club, more than Steve Carter, 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: then Craig Gower, more than the legendary Royce Simmons, very 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: own Brandy Greg Alexander. 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: I wouldn't got the ball. 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: Everything's clear. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 4: I've comed all the way through from outside in it 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 4: came and just everything's over that line. 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 3: He's pushed the port sharp. 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 4: They came to see where that gets us. 11 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 5: Okay, that's going to be perfector robbers, how were wrapping? 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: Those were moments this. 13 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: Week, Isaiah Yo. The captains Warrior Schers. 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: Open with Nathan Cleary. He's co captain all four Grand 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Final wins. Stoppaball played fourteen times for the Blues and 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: that's right. Captain the Kangaroo's last Year's Specific Championships try 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: and he's still only thirty. 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 4: I really got there, akind of trouberver resilience to go now. 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: Seventy second, having deboted twenty fourteen as a one hundred 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: and ninety five centimeter seven three. 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 6: Quarter, leaves the Panthers to the. 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Frontier tonight from the Rugby League production line that he's 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: Dubbo and new South Wales, Central West. This old man 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: Justin was a centimeter taller, one ninety six and a 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: dead ringer who played for Norse and the Tigers. They 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: say he never let anyone down. 27 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 7: Like father, like son. 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: Welcome to an hour old three sixty rugby league. From 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: every end you're dreaming me the great Gordon Tallis, that's Bender, Jeronato, Australian, 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 4: James Hooper and Dave Ricchio. And Isaiao becomes first Panthers 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 4: player ever to play two hundred and fifty games for 32 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 4: the Panthers. And it's quite the surprise. But what a 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: magnificent achievement by Isaiah. 34 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 5: Great happening there by Maddy Nabel and all those great 35 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 5: players at Penrith that he surpasses. I never would have 36 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 5: thought a senat And just the way his game is growing. 37 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 5: No matter what level he goes to, he's one of 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 5: the best players on the field. 39 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: What a player. 40 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 5: He's only thirty, so where he gets to he's pretty 41 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 5: durable as well. 42 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: But congratulating and. 43 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 5: It's not the two fifty right when people talk about numbers, 44 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 5: Arthur Beats have played one for Queensland and that sticks 45 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 5: with us all the time. It's how many good games 46 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 5: he's played for Panda. It's not just running out for 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,279 Speaker 5: two fifty. He's played a lot of quality games from. 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 7: It's fitting Gord. 49 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 8: He given all the blood, sweat and tears that he's 50 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 8: put into that jumper. He's a great role model off 51 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 8: the field, and then the way he's evolved, Like he 52 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 8: began his career in the centers. He played one game 53 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 8: on the wing, then he was in the second row 54 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 8: for a number of seasons and he actually didn't move 55 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 8: to Locke until the twenty twenty season, which is when 56 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 8: Penrith have gone on this run of five straight ground four. 57 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: He plays lock a backup half back, doesn't he really? 58 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 9: When things go pear shaped with Nathan or Nathan has 59 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 9: to come off the field, incomes Isaiah and plays this 60 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 9: brilliant ball playing style. The greatest respect you can give 61 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 9: Isaiaho comes from the legends that are so many from Penroth, 62 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 9: Royce Simmons, Greg Alexander, Brad Fhittler, so many of them 63 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 9: speak as Isaiaho will go down as the greatest Panther 64 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 9: of all time. 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: That's what surprises me. There's so many legends of the 66 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: club that have played there for a long period of 67 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: time for him to be the first to hit two fifty. 68 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 4: You know, it caught me off guard a little bit, 69 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 4: And you're right, Gordy. The quality in which he's played 70 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: nearly every one of those games, the transformation, the evolution. 71 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 4: You know, when you first watched him play in the 72 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 4: centers for the pend of Panthers, there is not one 73 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: person that could possibly have predicted where this guy was 74 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 4: trending and where he was heading in his career. And 75 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 4: the player that he's become. I mean, it's not only 76 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 4: his performances on field, it's his leadership. His leadership is 77 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 4: just you know, even the way he carries himself on 78 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: the field. He's quite a humble guy too. It's an 79 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 4: incredible achievement, isn't it. 80 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 8: Who's real, ol, Look, it's a fantastic achievement. I remember 81 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 8: going to Panthers training would have been about twenty fifteen, 82 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 8: and he did notice him because he was a tall 83 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 8: unit and he stood out and we're asking questions because 84 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 8: we weren't sure too much about his background. They said, look, 85 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 8: he's come from Dubbo. He's tough. His old man was 86 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 8: a good footballer and played for Valmain and they weren't 87 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 8: sure what his best position was going to be. But 88 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 8: to your point, he evolved his game and he's clearly 89 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 8: worked extremely closely with Ivan and Nathan Cleary to get 90 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 8: it where it is today. 91 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 7: But you talked to. 92 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 8: Plenty of forwards and he's certainly not underrated by anybody 93 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 8: in the game. 94 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: Let's think with the Panthers and Ivan Cleary has had 95 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 4: a lot to do with Isaoh and his performance and 96 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 4: where he is at the moment. You've spoken to Ivan, 97 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 4: what's happening out there at Penis. 98 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, guys, look absolutely spoke to him the other week, sorry, 99 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 9: earlier this week, and very candid, quite honest, was Ivan 100 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 9: about the current predicament of the Panthers where they are 101 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 9: thirteenth on the NRL. Ad of guys, I just unheard 102 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 9: of where we think of the penwith Panthers defensively leaking 103 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 9: twenty eight and a half points a game completely on 104 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 9: Penrith and throughout this four week period we've seen in 105 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 9: after injuries started eat away the Panthers. Ivan has described 106 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 9: it as one of his great challenges since being appointed 107 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 9: head coach of PENRITHT at this point in time, and 108 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 9: I've got the sense what he was talking about there 109 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 9: is it's much harder to stay on top than it 110 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 9: is to climb from the bottom. And that's where Ivan 111 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 9: sees the challenge that everyone's coming for them. They've got 112 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 9: some chinks now, you can't deny it. They've been leaking 113 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 9: player after player, and he knows that this will be 114 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 9: one of his greatest tests to try and resurrect what 115 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 9: has been a sluggish start to the season. 116 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 3: You since does he think? 117 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 5: He knows that he's got all the pieces of the 118 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 5: puzzle and he's just got to put it back together. 119 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 9: I think for the first time, Gordy Ivan's understanding of 120 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 9: how long these guys have been up for Isaiao is 121 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 9: a great example. Through a five year Grand Final campaign, 122 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 9: He's played in Origins World Club Challenges, test matches, so 123 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 9: end of season's test matches, your preseason start later, and 124 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 9: you can only gem so much in the elite players 125 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 9: of Nathan and Dylan Edwards and Isaiah and that I 126 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 9: just wonder it now, are we starting to see a 127 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 9: little bit of fraying the of those elite players because 128 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 9: they've been off for so long. 129 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 4: I don't know the depth they've had, you know, over 130 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 4: the past four or five years with players leaving because 131 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: of the salary cap and because of the success that 132 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: they've had. They've also had injuries in key positions, which 133 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 4: you can't have in that when you've got that situation. 134 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 4: Clear he goes down missus the Melbourne game early missus 135 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: last week. Edward's out. He's been their most consistent performer, 136 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 4: you know, for a number of years now, so you 137 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: just can't afford that as a top grade team or 138 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: an elite team to have those interruptions now because they 139 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 4: don't have the depth that they used to have. And 140 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 4: we were all a little bit concerned, you know, first 141 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 4: show really about whether they sort of fall off the 142 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 4: cliff this year. And I wouldn't say they've fallen off 143 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: the cliff, but they're certainly not looking like they have 144 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: past seasons. 145 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 8: I still think they're going to be okay, breath based 146 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 8: on that. As long as Nathan Dylan, Edwards, Mitch Kenny, 147 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 8: those key position players Moses lead are all on the 148 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 8: field and they're there come September, then I still think 149 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 8: they're absolutely playing finals football. 150 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 7: But it probably is the biggest. 151 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 8: Challenge for Ivan Clear since he signed with Penrith because 152 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 8: it was a big deal. The West Tigers had to 153 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 8: pay a transfer for you for him to join the club. 154 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 8: There were off field challenges when he arrived at the time, 155 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 8: they didn't make the finals in his first season, and 156 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 8: then he's since gone on to create this dynasty. But 157 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 8: I would say at this point in time, right now, 158 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 8: this is his biggest challenge. 159 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 4: To add all of this and something that I think 160 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: has been underestimated is to switch to Kombink. Now, Penwith 161 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: Park was a fortress for them. They've hardly lost games 162 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: there season after season. They've gone to colmback Kombank. Albeit 163 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 4: they've only played a couple of games there, but that's 164 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 4: going to continue. But a different atmosphere, not as many crowd, 165 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: I believe, if you've got. 166 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: To I think it's an absolute factor. 167 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 9: Look, he might be only scratching on the surface to 168 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 9: this point because they've only played that one home game 169 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 9: so far against the Roosters, but only twelve thousand fans 170 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 9: turned up. 171 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: Right, again, twenty minutes. 172 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 5: It's twenty minutes and they're not going to watch a 173 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 5: dud footy side. 174 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 8: There's something for the po surrounding areas. It is an 175 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 8: awesome experience going to Penrith Park, like the way that 176 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 8: the club has set it up there on with you Gordon. 177 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 8: It is only twenty minutes down the road, so it's 178 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 8: not that much of a challenge, but it is a 179 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 8: unique experience going to venue at the foot of the 180 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 8: mon So. 181 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 9: Twelve thousand turn up to combat against the Sydney Roosters. Guys, 182 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 9: it's a Sydney team Friday nights. 183 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 7: The Roosters fans don't always they're not. 184 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 9: Travelers Friday nights six o'clock, all right, it is Friday night, 185 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 9: six o'clock against the Cowboys. Now, I'm fascinated to see 186 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 9: if Penwith fans have got any reason whatsoever to get 187 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 9: out there. 188 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,359 Speaker 3: It's for Isaiaho. 189 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 9: But I think this is a factor that we may 190 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 9: see play out that they're not running out the Hell's 191 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 9: bells packed at Penwouth Park with the Panther. 192 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 7: Scout than the c and out. 193 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 8: They still play Hell's bells of combat. 194 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: The atmosphere. 195 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 7: Game. 196 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 3: The atmosphere is not the same. 197 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 5: The atmosphere is not the same. People are still too competition. 198 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 5: The stadium doesn't make it. The people in the stadium 199 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 5: make it. We saw so we saw COVID and we 200 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 5: saw suncur It wasn't a great atmosphere, was it. So 201 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 5: the people that walk in the venue, And if you're 202 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 5: a Panmouth fan, you should get there twenty minutes away 203 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 5: to watch this great team play. 204 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 4: All right now, Ivan loves the theme each year. Is 205 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 4: he running out of ideas? Does he have a theme 206 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: for this year? 207 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 9: Well, look he spoke about that, and you know they 208 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 9: have had the undisputed tag top Gun. We saw what 209 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 9: was it they tapped into that top Gun movie. 210 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: That's right, all that. 211 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 9: Last way that they come on by the way he 212 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 9: did last week last week last season it was Mana 213 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 9: the Pacific Nation's tribal theme. And look, he says it's 214 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 9: too early to start coming up with themes. They usually 215 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,119 Speaker 9: come up with something later in their run of the finals. 216 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: Struggling with the thing. 217 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 5: Is God, don't push me because I'm close to the edge. 218 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 3: You to speak to that you might be able to 219 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: speak to this year. One of there it is is 220 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 3: one of. 221 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 9: The factors is is they don't have that retiring player 222 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 9: this year, guys, And it's been a factor. 223 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 5: And getting come up with one living on a prayer 224 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 5: and I've only ever had one in my fourteen years, 225 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 5: and I didn't really like a theme. The themers work 226 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 5: hard and go there and try it. 227 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 9: You aren't going to play that little bit harder for 228 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 9: your best mate who's finishing up at the club to 229 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 9: try and win a premiership with him. 230 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 5: Absolutely you do. But then that's the theme. It's not 231 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 5: a song, it's not the. 232 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: Theme has worked there, Gordy, but they've also had a cha' 233 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 4: as well. 234 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: Did you say that, top Gun? 235 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 9: I'll say this brace The losing Grand final team also 236 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 9: have a theme, I'm pretty sure, and we don't hear 237 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 9: about it because they've lost. 238 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, paying Hass has confirmed he's likely to switch 239 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 4: allegiance to Samol but the superstar prop won't make it 240 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: cool until Origin. 241 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not really going to talk about it, but 242 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: I will be transparent and so I have been considering it, 243 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: but I'm not going to make a decision until after Origin. 244 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: So that's me being honest and transparent to everyone. So 245 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: we can just put that depend on now. So I 246 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: don't take the grand and goal jump on fly you 247 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: know it means well, I grew up here in Australia 248 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: and has given my family lots of opportunities as well. 249 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: My origin means well, and you want to be in 250 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: the biggest arena. But like I said, I'm just here 251 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: to play good footing for the boys and be present here. 252 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: So it's about representing my grandparents. My grandfather's getting pretty old, 253 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: to be honest, and obviously I grew up around my 254 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: son want so, so I'll be silly not to consider 255 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: it to be honest, and I want to represent them. Yeah, 256 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: obviously I'll make that decision after Origin, but yeah, I'm 257 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: not one hundred percent yet, but it still what happens. 258 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 4: So paynehas saying there that he's not going to make 259 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: a decision until after State of Origin this year. The 260 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 4: feeling is though that he could be gone. Do you 261 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 4: guys get that impression. 262 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll reading between the lines. 263 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 8: It sounds as he's out the door, and from reports 264 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 8: that have also emerged this afternoon for saw my Art, 265 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 8: he could also be following suit as well. So it's 266 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 8: a big moment in the game break in that it's 267 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 8: awesome for the international game and it clearly only strengthens that. 268 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 8: But I do feel like it is a bit of 269 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 8: a slap in the face for State of Origin and 270 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 8: also for the Pathway through to wearing the Green and Gold, 271 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 8: which for all players who are born in Australia has 272 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 8: always been the pinnacle of the game. So I can 273 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 8: understand why it is going to upset a few people. 274 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 8: It's going to polarize opinion. 275 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 4: It's always going to upset people, isn't It is always 276 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: going to polarized opinion. I'm torn on this. I mean, 277 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: I think every player should have the right to play 278 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 4: for whoever they want, whatever country they want, you know, 279 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: I really do. But I know there are some implications 280 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 4: around that, and there's rules and regulations as well, and 281 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: rules for some and not for others. Again, we brought 282 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 4: up that Kalin situation with the tier one, Tier two 283 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 4: and all that sort of thing. But you know, I 284 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 4: think if he's if he really wants to play for 285 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 4: Samorroa and represent his family and his heritage, then he 286 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 4: should be able to do that. I don't have an 287 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: issue with that. 288 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 9: You can't open you can't open a can of worms, though, 289 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 9: right I firmly look, I'm with you and guys. 290 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: I've tossed and turned on. 291 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 9: This as well, but I still believe State of Origin 292 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 9: is the greatest product that the game has and you 293 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 9: have to keep it sacrosanct for what. 294 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: It is, and that is that you can't turn it in. 295 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: We have the NRAL All Stars like we have. 296 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 9: We have those feature events that cater for all of 297 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 9: our different backgrounds, right, but origin is New South Wales 298 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 9: versus Coinsland, flip flopping from England to Samoa to New 299 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 9: Zealand and back trying to play again for Origin. 300 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: I don't think that's the right of it all. But 301 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 3: I think that's you have to be. 302 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 5: I think our games is bigger than that now and 303 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 5: the best part of our game in the pinnacle has 304 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 5: to be playing for your country because that's what we 305 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 5: all strive for. So when you talk about World Cup 306 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 5: SoC so if we keep on saying, you know, these 307 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 5: two states playing against each other is the pinnacle, you know, 308 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 5: I think that you know we haven't said our sides 309 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 5: high enough, and then those guys playing for their country, 310 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 5: and that you know, Samorrow and Tong are selling out England, 311 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 5: and if we and if we open it up to 312 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 5: Samorrow and Tonga, why don't we open it up to 313 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 5: New Zealand and England. 314 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 8: You make a great point, Gordy, in that we can't 315 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 8: I think, yeah, no, but you do make a great point. 316 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 8: I think this is where in the fair income department 317 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 8: the IRL needs to step in. 318 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 7: Samara and Tonga are no longer. 319 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 8: Tier two, not in twenty twenty five. Right, Tonga made 320 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 8: the final of the Pacific Championships last year and samhow 321 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 8: made the World Cup final in the most recent World Cup. 322 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 7: If you go through all of. 323 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 5: Their squads, it also comes down much every single and 324 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 5: what you're. 325 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: Doing for the game. Would say, it's not all. 326 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 8: Dave, that's not only that's fine at a lower level, right, 327 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 8: But in the fair income department, if you look at 328 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 8: the squads from that Pacific Championship final last year and 329 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 8: the World Cup final for Samoa, right, virtually every single 330 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 8: player has featured in the n L. They're all elite superstar, 331 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 8: some of them the highest paid players in the game. 332 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 8: So if that's the case, then surely they need to 333 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 8: be considered as Tier one nation. 334 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 4: It's either going to be a free for all or not. 335 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 4: Yeah for all? 336 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: Does Victor rad play origin Herbie Farmer? Well, why not? 337 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 4: Have ridiculous I'm just saying, well, I think it's going 338 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 4: to be one of the other I. 339 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 5: Can't say if you play form and tongue that you 340 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 5: can and then say no to the other countries. 341 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: It's not fair on Victor. On the other the problem 342 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 3: is protect the origin. 343 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: I'll say this, I agree the originally be fine. No 344 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: matter what I do know, I'm not going to serve 345 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 4: one bit about origin. I'm really not that the players 346 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 4: wearing the jersey in origin, no matter who they are, 347 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 4: make origin. And it's so such a passionate game. Gordy, 348 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 4: you can speak to this more than anyone. It really is. 349 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 4: But just back on, we had Abdoh on Heavy Hitters 350 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 4: on Monday night. 351 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 3: The amount of times you use. 352 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 4: The word global global globalization was about three or four times. 353 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 4: So the game is really looking to grow internationally and 354 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 4: go abroad, right, So with these players deflecting, it actually 355 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 4: grows the international game. So I think that they will 356 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: not have an issue with it. I think the end 357 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 4: all will be fine with Yeah, I think they'll be 358 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 4: fine with it. 359 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 8: So so New South was and Coinsland will just be 360 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 8: the best seven. How do you decide who's I don't 361 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 8: know what they're going. 362 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 4: To do, but what I'm saying is is from talking 363 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: to Andrew, I think they want the game to grow. 364 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 4: They want we're going to you know, we go on 365 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 4: to Vegas. You know, he wants Samara and Tonga and 366 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: Fiji everyone to be as strong as they possibly can 367 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 4: because they want our game to be on all on 368 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 4: the world stage. So if you've got the Samoan team 369 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 4: with the likes of Moses, Leoda and Leui and Crichton 370 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 4: and has, you know, it does make that they're almost favorites. 371 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 4: You know when when you look at the side that 372 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 4: Samoa can come up with, So there's so many different 373 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 4: angles you can look at this the end of I 374 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 4: have really got to just come out with some sort 375 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 4: of rules and regulations that everyone needs to abide by 376 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 4: because at the moment there's just so much doing and throw. 377 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 9: So would you would you suggest that the paynhas ops 378 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 9: to play for Samoa, that he sits out that then 379 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 9: is he available to play Origin again one question? Secondly, 380 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 9: or is there a two year three year gap that 381 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 9: he has to serve before he can then come back 382 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 9: and play. 383 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 3: And because you're going to just have plays foot rules, 384 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 3: you can't be run for. 385 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 8: The simplest solution, Dave is that if you make Tonga 386 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 8: and Tomorrow or Tier one nations right then it is 387 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 8: very clear. The rules are very clear clear and players 388 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 8: it's then up to the players which way they want 389 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 8: to go because in many instances players are born in Australia. 390 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 7: But I understand they want to represent the. 391 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: Expect on the back of that. 392 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 4: If that is the case and they make everyone a 393 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 4: Tier one team and don't have the tears, it's a 394 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: three it's a three year. Now you got city out 395 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 4: room from what origin to then represent your country? Would 396 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 4: they reduce that three years? Possibly for the World Cup? 397 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 4: You probably would? Do you know what I mean? Because 398 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: this is the thing. 399 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 8: There's so many there's a lot of different layers to it, 400 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 8: and our landscapes changed. 401 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 5: The synic in me is if every jersey was worth 402 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 5: the same amount of money, who would you choose? And 403 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 5: that's who you play for? And that's the elephant in 404 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 5: the room. Good point, all right, let's you mention. 405 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 4: Take Senna stage on Friday night against his former club 406 00:18:54,720 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 4: and this is going to be huge. 407 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 10: There is a superstar Latrovitchel. 408 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: Mixel beg Latro. 409 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 3: Mixellche. 410 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 4: It is a true Michel. What a game. 411 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 3: He's happy. 412 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 7: I'm gonna stop. 413 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: I got to stop it. 414 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 9: Up from the bonelet is he praying from. 415 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 4: The bone in the Napo Betro Mitchel? He is back 416 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 4: front and center. Dos Latro Mitchell give the Bunnies the 417 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 4: edge over the Roosters? Did they already have the edge? 418 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 8: I think they are he had the edge given the 419 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 8: form that they've burned in breakthrough from forward to begin 420 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 8: the season. Latrell's off the booze. He's also been training 421 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 8: harder than probably the hardest. I heard some of his 422 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 8: teammates say this week he looks in as good a 423 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 8: condition as they've ever seen him. So I feel as 424 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 8: it's going to be a big season for Latrell. He's 425 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 8: done a lot of hard work. He's got a point 426 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 8: and prove and that spells big trouble for the Roosters. 427 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 9: I think I think everything Hoops has just said I 428 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 9: agree with as farn fit. 429 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: How fit does he look? 430 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 4: He looks viably different, doesn't he? 431 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: Season? 432 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 4: Kind of like it's like GEI. You know there was 433 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 4: a period there was always a machine, right. I don't 434 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 4: compare them as players, but they're similar. Bills and g 435 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 4: I just turned up one year. 436 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 8: And just stop the chest. 437 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was unstoppable that you and you get 438 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: the same sort of feel, don't you, Gordon. 439 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, look, look Latrell at his best, and you know, 440 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 5: maybe the injuries and you know it's like that he's 441 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 5: lost the baby fat and the penny drops every now 442 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 5: and then, and maybe the trouble he went through last 443 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 5: year and all the trouble at South Sydney and the 444 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 5: hears say hopefully he's growing up because House Sidney eating. 445 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 5: But in this game, I'm not too sure. I think 446 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 5: you throw the full out. 447 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 4: Oh really, yeah, you throw do But I'm worried about 448 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 4: this week mate, So from what perspectives ago. 449 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 5: Of course, three weeks ago Teddy said it was the 450 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 5: greatest victory in the club's history other than but. 451 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 4: I was worried about the weekend. We'll probably get into 452 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 4: that made you come up against the Titans. 453 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: That's true. 454 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 4: Details today have Reggie the Rabbit. He's back again, brandish, 455 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 4: brandishing a raw chicken. Will he bring this chicken to 456 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 4: Friday Night's game? Here, Reggie the Rabbit. I think it 457 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 4: was Peter mem Mizola who was quoted when he was 458 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 4: fifteen years of age. Charlie. Here he is, Reggie the 459 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 4: Rabbit brought a raw chicken in He's. 460 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 8: Coming with the frozen staggles and just started pulling the legs. 461 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: Of destroyed it too. He's very passionate. 462 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 4: Reggie got a good right by the way. 463 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 7: He believes Red and Green. This reminds me of a story. 464 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 8: So Ronnie Cook many years ago defected from South to 465 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 8: the Roosters, and this family of mad Red and Green 466 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 8: did in the wool Bunnies Fans used to have a 467 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 8: pet rabbit called ron When he switched to the Roosters, 468 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 8: they cooked the rabbit and made it. That's how much 469 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 8: it means this rivalry be Probably he might have been 470 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 8: at the last supper. 471 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 5: Didn't the great Tommy Vertonic has have a heart. 472 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 7: Day. 473 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 6: He did because he's that's a big booked Dylan, who 474 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 6: is preparing to make his club debut for the Eels 475 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 6: as paramounta struggle to find a win under rookie coach Jason. 476 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 10: Rynolds Dylan, welcome to Paramatta. It's yeah, it was pretty 477 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 10: it was pretty busy. It happened real quick. I flew 478 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 10: over one weekend meet with Zi. You know, they're very accommodating, 479 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 10: they were nice. I got a sense of feeling that 480 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 10: it just felt in the right move and it's your conversation. 481 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 7: You help with Jason. Where does he see your value? 482 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 10: Yeah, just the similar role what I've been doing it 483 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 10: just through that middle third, controlling the middle, helping the 484 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 10: hearts out. You know, there's there's quality plays here and 485 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 10: that's what I saw. It just needs a bit of confidence. 486 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 10: Nothing's ever going to be perfect. Been in this situation before. 487 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 10: Mainly we lost four in a row and there's a 488 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 10: lot of potential here and I saw that and I 489 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 10: saw the real growth. So quality football side here, a 490 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 10: good bunch of blokes. You know, you put those two together, 491 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 10: work hard, you know, you can go off and running, 492 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 10: and that's what I'm banking on and just can't wait 493 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 10: to go out there this week and and show what 494 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 10: I can do. 495 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: Dial and Walker there. You know, I don't think he's 496 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 4: under too much pressure. He's coming over from the Warriors. 497 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 4: They're already struggling at the moment. But hopefully for Paramatter 498 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 4: he makes an impact. But it feels like Paramata beginning 499 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 4: a four year rebuild. How did they get in this position. 500 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 9: I think it's a by product of a new coach. 501 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 9: Quite simply that Jason Rowles wants to put his stamp 502 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 9: on his way. Look, there's a suggestion throughout the game, 503 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 9: and that you know Brian Smith, God he might be 504 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 9: able to speak to this. Brian Smith had a bit 505 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 9: of a mentality of when getting to a new club, 506 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 9: clean house, get rid of the leaders, take control. 507 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 3: Have a young group at your disposal. 508 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 9: That way you can dictate the path of that group 509 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 9: much easier when you've got your more senior experienced players 510 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 9: still hanging around from the former coach. 511 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 8: But I've also Wayne Bennett say when you get to 512 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 8: a new club, you don't want to change too much. 513 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 8: You might, you might bring one or two players in, 514 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 8: but you've got to figure out what you got under 515 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 8: the bonnet, and you've got to try and figure a 516 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 8: way to make it work so that then you know 517 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 8: exactly how you to get. 518 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 5: Anywhere. 519 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 9: Well, I think there's no greater examples that Jason Rowse 520 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 9: is doing his way, thinks his way with Bryce can't right, 521 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 9: Ryan Madison calm too long. He's sitting in New South 522 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 9: Wales Cup and kids are being deboot on the bench. 523 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: You know in scenarios you come. 524 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 7: At a cross though, Dave. 525 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 8: Look if you look at the numbers to start the year, 526 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 8: it's been a brutal beginning. You go back to Paramatta 527 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 8: and the opening month of their season last year. I 528 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 8: think they won two out of appening four games. They 529 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 8: certainly were a lot tighter defensively. The decisions to move 530 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 8: on Clint Gartherson and Reagan Campbell gill Out have clearly 531 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 8: bit them. 532 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 7: On the ass. 533 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 8: And I just feel I don't know how we went 534 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 8: from paramaking a Grand Final. 535 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 3: In twenty two went today. 536 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 8: Yes, so they let me back in somehow break Yeah, 537 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 8: well this tells the Taylor the tape. So to begin 538 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 8: the season in twenty twenty four, Paramatter won two games 539 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 8: this year, zero wins, points scored. You can see they're 540 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 8: going okay last year. This year they are sitting last. 541 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 8: They've only scored eleven points. Points conceded last year they 542 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 8: eighth this year, their last thirty. 543 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 7: Two point five points per game. That's all of a lot. 544 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 8: Misstackles aren't great either, and then you've got your run 545 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 8: meters conceited to round it out, So those numbers don't lie. 546 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 8: And yes, the Eels had some challenges early doors last year, 547 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 8: after the opening month of the season, but I think 548 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 8: it just shows it. I don't know how power went 549 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 8: from being in a premiership window and making. 550 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 4: It exactly because they had the team to win a 551 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 4: premiership and they thought he couldn't get them there. 552 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 8: Yes, and they said at that time that they still 553 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 8: thought that they had a roster capable of competing for 554 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 8: a premiership. 555 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 7: Well now it's at an act station. 556 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 9: It feels like you're giving Jason Rowls no time to 557 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 9: put his impro on the class transition. 558 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 3: Which way he wants to take it. 559 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 8: Now, I'll give him all the time in the world, Dave, 560 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 8: because he's four games into a four year deal. But 561 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 8: the numbers don't lie and some of the decisions so far, 562 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 8: I think if you asked Rollsy now with the benefit 563 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 8: of hindsight, would he make the same cause he might 564 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,239 Speaker 8: have a different Absolutely. 565 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 4: Because Moses, that's a big loss, right that he packs 566 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 4: the numbers there to a degree, not like I'm not 567 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 4: going to try, you know, can you you know your 568 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 4: lab buttho you know, you know the energy he brings 569 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 4: to a team, Like he's just irreplaceable, even in his losses, 570 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 4: and even he's always competing so reliable. 571 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 8: Super Saturday last week we're started into Melbourne Stem. If 572 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 8: he doesn't play that game, I don't think St. Georgia 573 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 8: law are a win. It's not just what he does 574 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 8: with the ball or the little tip ons in attack. 575 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 8: It's his organization defensively and the amount of tries that 576 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 8: he stops his years break. You're right, he is a leader, 577 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 8: He's an energizer bunny. So look, I just get the 578 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 8: film and that that hasn't worked out. There's a great decision. 579 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 9: Can we not ignore that Dylan Brown's in like career 580 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 9: low form, yes, like again an attacking spark for that side, 581 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 9: he's not. 582 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 4: Can I just say that has there been a long 583 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 4: period of time in his career or a length of 584 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 4: time where he has been grateful? 585 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah. 586 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 8: I think he started the year that they the Grand 587 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 8: Final strongly, maybe half a dozen and eight games. He 588 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 8: was very consistent with running the football and then as 589 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 8: they went on the run into the finals, he was strong. 590 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 8: But now aside from that break, there hasn't been a strong, 591 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 8: consistent massive by I think. 592 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 4: Because of the whole fanfare and deal that he's got 593 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 4: at Newcastle. Yeah, it's put pressure on him, but you 594 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 4: know he hasn't reached great heights at. 595 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: All yet, not at all. 596 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 8: We have squirrels in your head when you've when it's 597 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 8: on the back page and the front page of so 598 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 8: many papers, everybody's got an opinion on it. It's the 599 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 8: richest deal in the history of the game. But he 600 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 8: comes with But that's not the point. That it comes 601 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 8: with enormous pressure and enormous scrup. 602 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: And what is the concern is his response to it. 603 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 4: You know, the way he's playing now that the elite 604 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 4: of our game, the best of our game, you know, respond, 605 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 4: the champions respond. That's That's what I was getting to. 606 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 4: And this is it's hard to knock him because I 607 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 4: actually think he's got so much potential. 608 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 3: And I think he'll be I actually think he'll be. 609 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: I've asked him to do a job that he can't do. 610 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 7: Yeah. 611 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 3: The sad part is, that's really. 612 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 5: The sad part is when I watch him, and I'm 613 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 5: not a coach and I'm not a talent scapper, when 614 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 5: I watch him, I think he's a bore runner. I 615 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 5: think he's more suited to the centers than moving closer 616 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 5: to the rug. And I think he's a mile away 617 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 5: from running a footy side. And we've caught him a 618 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 5: couple of times and hopefully you know, Dylan Walker can 619 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 5: like open him up a little bit so I. 620 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 7: Can get his drunk. 621 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 5: He's quite squeeze and he can open him up a 622 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 5: little bit. But there's but it's chalk and cheese, and 623 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 5: sometimes he's lost. He doesn't look like a big talker 624 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 5: like when you watch him. He's not pointing, like he's 625 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 5: not even getting involved. So I don't know how he digs. 626 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 4: He just needs to step it up somehow in some way. 627 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 4: Now it's taking us a while, but let's get to 628 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 4: d C Hoop's war in camps are threatening to release emails. 629 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 3: This is huge. 630 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 7: It's getting very murky the D style. 631 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 3: Mate. 632 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 8: I think they've basically declared an uneasy truce the moment. 633 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 8: Off the back of what Daily had to say after 634 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 8: the game on Sunday, I think everybody at merely realizes 635 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 8: they've got to try and bunker down and do their 636 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 8: best to win games and give themselves a shot at 637 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 8: the top four. Tommy Turbo is injured. That adds another 638 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 8: degree of difficulty. The emails Do they exist? Don't they exist? 639 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 8: No one seems to be alleged to well that that 640 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 8: Daily's camp, Daily's management. We're seeking a contract worth between 641 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 8: one point two and one point two million dollars. That's 642 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 8: what they valued his worth on the open market at 643 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 8: and Maarier adamant they exist in. 644 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 4: Saying that Daily's camp said they've never received anything. Ever, 645 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 4: that's the conflict, and they've got emails. 646 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: So is it because that who's. 647 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 8: Got Well, yeah, so there's a lot of claims about emails. 648 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 8: We might have to call in the cyber police and 649 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 8: get Inspector Gadget to solve it for us. 650 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 4: So do camp thought they'd make the announcement and just 651 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 4: move on day if you got something? Oh? 652 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 9: I just I just again, I don't want to backtrack 653 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 9: on chapter number thirty seven in Saga, However, the naivety 654 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 9: of standing up at a press, sitting down on national 655 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 9: television and announcing to the world that you will no 656 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 9: longer be at Manly and thinking that by making that 657 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 9: call on Tuesday morning, you wake up the sun shining 658 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 9: and everyone's just moved on and everything. So a okay, 659 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 9: I just I just think I can't believe that that 660 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 9: would be the context of making that call last Monday. 661 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 7: N that wasn't going to be the case. He knows, 662 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 7: big bombshell development. 663 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 3: How long doesn't it you should play Origin this year? 664 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, I wrote that column in relation to what 665 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 9: DCE could do for Manly to give them every chance 666 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 9: to do exactly what he claims he wants to do now, 667 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 9: and that is to lead them all the way to 668 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 9: the premiership. And what a legacy that would be after 669 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 9: all this To do that would be extraord for me. 670 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 9: The greatest opportunity for him to do that would be 671 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 9: to miss the Origin series and give it all to Manly. 672 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 9: Don't miss those games that he would sit out for 673 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 9: Manly and also too at thirty seven years of age. 674 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 9: Right here is a captain exactly so captain according to 675 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 9: thirty seven. 676 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 7: I think he's going to give that up. 677 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: Well, I think there's one hundred thousand we could talk about. 678 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 3: We can talk about DC. Oh yeah we will. 679 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 4: Let's just move on the broadband key you play out 680 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 4: match up journees. 681 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: What do you got for us? 682 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 8: Latrell's backs onging Latrell playing left center for the Bunnies 683 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 8: up against Robert Toyer for the City Roosters. 684 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 7: The young Gun. 685 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, matchup tomorrow night goes big Ding Dong battle Adam 686 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 9: for Norman Blake for the Sharks up against Raiders Joey 687 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 9: Tarpani love it, d Dong, thank you. 688 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 4: Very much, Day, thank you. Who's this Sunday? The most 689 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 4: anticipated come back in Australian boxing, Tim Zoo puts his 690 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 4: career on the line against American young gun Joey Spencer 691 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 4: and it's live and exclusive on main Events 692 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 10: No.