Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry Good Evening. Well,
Speaker 1: wasn't that incredible?
Speaker 2: Well done to Chang Lay and the entire Sky News
Speaker 2: team behind the documentary. What resonates with me the most
Speaker 2: is the unfathomable agony of the years when Chang Lay
Speaker 2: didn't know if she'd ever see her children again or
Speaker 2: ever be set free, the psychological torment she went through,
Speaker 2: the relentless nothingness. And it's really hard to stomach that
Speaker 2: former Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews went to China during that period,
Speaker 2: as you just saw, and failed to raise Lay's case
Speaker 2: despite being given briefing notes by defact on how to
Speaker 2: raise and handle it.
Speaker 1: And this infuriates Lay two.
Speaker 3: I am pretty beyond anger, but that does make me angry,
Speaker 3: but I think perhaps mister Andrews was more worried about
Speaker 3: his business opportunities after politics.
Speaker 2: It's really unforgivable and we can see now that sheng
Speaker 2: Lei was a high profile casualty of the Communist party
Speaker 2: system that toys with human lives as leverage. Beijing was
Speaker 2: unhappy with the Australian government's call for an inquiry into
Speaker 2: the origins of COVID nineteen, a call by the way,
Speaker 2: that was absolutely the right thing to do, and Lay.
Speaker 1: Was one of the victims. She was a human pawn,
Speaker 1: as she acknowledges.
Speaker 2: But she's not the only one who is still being
Speaker 2: held captive by the CCP. Doctor Yang heng Jhun is
Speaker 2: a Chinese born Australian writer and pro democracy advocate, first
Speaker 2: arrested in twenty nineteen under spurious accusations of espionage. He's
Speaker 2: a father of two young children, and in a far
Speaker 2: cry from open justice, he's been dealing with secretive trials
Speaker 2: for five long years and last year he received the
Speaker 2: death sentence with a two year reprieve, and so the
Speaker 2: threat of execution for him looms now. The Albenese government
Speaker 2: should be doing everything it can to secure his release,
Speaker 2: but I am worried that the Prime Minister is more
Speaker 2: concerned about preserving his personal relationship with China than standing
Speaker 2: up for Yang in the strongest possible terms. And like
Speaker 2: Cheng Lei, Yang should return to the loving arms of
Speaker 2: his wife and.
Speaker 1: Children to our country.
Speaker 2: We need to urge Albenzi to act before it's too late.
Speaker 2: It's against this backdrop of a more assertive China that
Speaker 2: British Prime Minister Kiir Stamer announced bold military plans to
Speaker 2: bring the UK to what he described as war fighting readiness.
Speaker 2: He's building twelve new attack submarines, investing billions in weapons
Speaker 2: and expanding the nuclear powered submarine fleet.
Speaker 1: Here is Keir Starmer today.
Speaker 4: Things have changed in the world of today the frontline
Speaker 4: if you like this here, the threat we now face
Speaker 4: is more serious, more immediate and more unpredictable than at
Speaker 4: any time since the Cold War.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Interestingly, a UK defense expert, Malcolm Charmers, said that Britain's
Speaker 2: commitment to build more submarines was not a hedge against
Speaker 2: total US disengagement, but it can provide some assurance against
Speaker 2: a scenario in which the US is no longer prepared
Speaker 2: to export complete submarines to Australia. Now, this is an
Speaker 2: important British investment and it's bizarre our Prime Minister isn't
Speaker 2: taking the attitude during this volatile period in global politics.
Speaker 2: And it comes as new details now emerge of the
Speaker 2: stunning Ukrainian operation on Russia that hit forty one aircraft.
Speaker 1: It's like something out of a spy movie.
Speaker 2: The top secret operation code named Spiderweb, was said to
Speaker 2: be eighteen months in the making. Ukraine smuggled drones in
Speaker 2: decoy trucks driven some three four hundred kilometers through Russia
Speaker 2: by unsuspecting Russians who had no idea what they were transporting,
Speaker 2: and the drones were then remotely detonated. General Jack Keane
Speaker 2: said it was a remarkable operation that reminds him of
Speaker 2: the Israeli exploding pages targeting Hesbelah.
Speaker 5: The operation is brilliant because the Ukrainians contracted Russian drivers,
Speaker 5: they drove the trucks, no Ukrainians involved. They contract did
Speaker 5: Russian containers. They assembled those Russian containers inside of Russia.
Speaker 5: We can't verify that they were using actually Russian component
Speaker 5: parts to do that assembly, and there were Russian trucks
Speaker 5: involved in all of that. There were no Ukrainians involved
Speaker 5: in the operation on the ground once the trucks left
Speaker 5: the area where they were assembled.
Speaker 2: This was a brilliantly executed ambush and the actual hit
Speaker 2: was of cost successful, but the psychological impact as well,
Speaker 2: we'll linger far longer. There'll be suspicion over every Russian truck,
Speaker 2: and enemy military resources will be diverted to examining both
Speaker 2: drivers and their cargo. But it's also showcased just how
Speaker 2: effective the use of drones can be. It's a revolution
Speaker 2: in warfare. As The New York Post writer Rich Lowry
Speaker 2: pointed out, badly outmanned an outgunn Kun just reached far
Speaker 2: inside its adversaries territory to destroy or damage hugely expensive,
Speaker 2: nuclear capable strategic aircraft with low cost drones basically indistinguishable
Speaker 2: from ones available on Amazon. There's also concern now about
Speaker 2: how our enemies could be planning to use low cost
Speaker 2: drone technology in the future, and this is a lesson
Speaker 2: for all of us. Lowry goes on to say that
Speaker 2: whoever takes the technological leap ahead in war fighting capability
Speaker 2: often prevails, while the laggard is left to contemplate his
Speaker 2: castle reduced to rubble or his fleet sent to the
Speaker 2: bottom of the ocean. We've seen it now with both
Speaker 2: Israel and Ukraine. Innovation in warfare and the element of
Speaker 2: surprise on unsuspecting targets can have astonishing and deeply impressive results.
Speaker 2: But we need to keep pace with technology. Albanezi can't
Speaker 2: rest on Scott Morrison's laurels and wait for submarines to
Speaker 2: turn up in some fifteen years time, and as for.
Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine.
Speaker 2: With the war raging on, Trump's peace talks are looking
Speaker 2: weaker and more doomed to fail each passing day.
Speaker 1: This strike was.
Speaker 2: Zelenski's sending a message to the world that he's not
Speaker 2: giving up and he's in this to win. Well, for
Speaker 2: more on that topic and the other big stories of
Speaker 2: the day, let's bring in now former Speaker of the
Speaker 2: House bron and Bishop and the Daily Telegraph journalist James
Speaker 2: willis great to see you both, I mean Bron when
Speaker 2: it seems Australia isn't keeping pace with the technology advancements
Speaker 2: in defense, and it seems from the comments we've heard
Speaker 2: from Albanzi this week that is not too concerned about
Speaker 2: it either.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, he has no will to make us able to
Speaker 6: look after ourselves, none at all. He's far more interested
Speaker 6: in closing up to the Communist Party of China and
Speaker 6: distancing himself from the United States, our traditional allies. So
Speaker 6: there is no determination in this government at all to
Speaker 6: focus on the defense of the nation, which is a
Speaker 6: primary responsible responsibility of any government. But we've seen it
Speaker 6: in other Labor Party governments, not under Beasley, who was
Speaker 6: a fierce defense minister, but that feeling that will just
Speaker 6: doesn't exist under this man. He has absolutely no desire
Speaker 6: to take on the Chinese threat at all, pushes it
Speaker 6: away is if it doesn't exist at all, and at
Speaker 6: the same time alienates our traditional allies. What about that
Speaker 6: comment about Stammer and the United Kingdom today. Oh, yes,
Speaker 6: he's in another place, he's over there.
Speaker 1: I beg your pardon.
Speaker 6: The fact of the matter, we're doing the same problems.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, of course it is in our region.
Speaker 2: And this is what is most perplexing James, because we
Speaker 2: hear from the Prime Minister constantly Richard Miles two, that
Speaker 2: we are in this very challenging strategic environment. But the investment,
Speaker 2: and again it's not just the size of the investment,
Speaker 2: but it's where the money is going towards. It just
Speaker 2: doesn't match their own ratory.
Speaker 7: Look, I think the Prime Minister deserves a fair bit
Speaker 7: to blame here, but I also think we need to
Speaker 7: blame large parts of the Defense Department who are far
Speaker 7: too top heavy, have spent a lot of money on
Speaker 7: bureaucracy and outsourcing. And let's face it, when we look
Speaker 7: at frigates, when we look at other frontline military programs,
Speaker 7: the budget's been blown out. We always get promised these
Speaker 7: projects ten to fifteen years down the track, and we
Speaker 7: sort of forget about them and wonder if they ever
Speaker 7: get delivered. There's been a lot of experts that say
Speaker 7: we need to parry there and start looking at some
Speaker 7: available equipment right now. But the other issue we've got
Speaker 7: is that the military's five thousand soldiers short of its
Speaker 7: operational capacity. People don't want to sign up. I think
Speaker 7: that's a combination of young people today. I mean, you
Speaker 7: just talked about Ukraine. When the war broke out, everyone
Speaker 7: that was of age was sent to the front line,
Speaker 7: that was fit and ready to fight. But the other issues,
Speaker 7: obviously how we've treated our soldiers when they've come home,
Speaker 7: with the Breton Report and smearing soldiers unfairly with allegations
Speaker 7: of war crimes.
Speaker 2: We've spoken about this a lot, absolutely, and adds to
Speaker 2: the treatment of the likes of Heston Russell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 7: And look, I think to be honest, so I still
Speaker 7: think to this day Ben Robert Smith is part of
Speaker 7: that as well. If war is breaking out, I would
Speaker 7: be happy to hide behind someone like Ben Robert Smith.
Speaker 7: And I know that's an unpopular take, but I think
Speaker 7: anyone that is brave enough to go to the other
Speaker 7: side of the world to fight an enemy that does
Speaker 7: not play by the rules and can do that on
Speaker 7: six tours, I have some form of admiration for and
Speaker 7: I will to this day.
Speaker 3: The other issue is, and we.
Speaker 7: Have a lot to be grateful for our soldiers, absolutely,
Speaker 7: and then you know thousands have sadly taken their own
Speaker 7: lives when they've come home because they've been mistreated by
Speaker 7: this disgraceful But also a senior member of the Air
Speaker 7: Force told me recently that the next wave of soldiers
Speaker 7: and military personnel, they need the maths, wiz whizzes, people
Speaker 7: that are smart at physics, that can fly these drones
Speaker 7: and fight from miles away from the actual war zone.
Speaker 7: So we need to parry there very quickly because, as
Speaker 7: you say, the rest of the world is doing this exactly.
Speaker 2: And the reason I spoke about that comment from the
Speaker 2: UK expert is, you know, the reality is we do
Speaker 2: have to be able to stand in our own two
Speaker 2: feet to a certain extent, we can't just rely on
Speaker 2: the fact that the United States will always be that
Speaker 2: we hope they will.
Speaker 1: In ninety five percent they will, but we've got a
Speaker 1: contribute as well.
Speaker 2: Now, the Citney Morning Herald had this report today where
Speaker 2: they described the current parliamentary sitting calendar as lazy. The
Speaker 2: Parliament will sit for fewer days this year than any
Speaker 2: other in the past two decades. And yeah we've got
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister again talking about his wedding, So his
Speaker 2: parning his wedding today, but he can't seem to plan
Speaker 2: in parliamentary sitting days now.
Speaker 1: Independent Senator David.
Speaker 2: Pocock slammed the fact Parliament won't even sit now until
Speaker 2: late July.
Speaker 8: I think Australians want us to be focusing on the
Speaker 8: big issues and there's more that we can and should
Speaker 8: be doing as a parliament when it comes to things
Speaker 8: like housing, costs of living, and none of that's going
Speaker 8: to happen until the.
Speaker 5: End of July.
Speaker 2: The Prime Minister clearly has other things on his mind.
Speaker 7: The big question I've saved to a last now that
Speaker 7: the election's out of the way, Have you and Jody
Speaker 7: said a wedding date.
Speaker 6: No, we haven't, Mark.
Speaker 9: We have now had an opportunity to discuss and we
Speaker 9: have a few options between now and the end of
Speaker 9: the year.
Speaker 2: I mean, Bromwin, you know the Australian people have just
Speaker 2: dealt with months of campaigning. Can't we expect our politicians
Speaker 2: to get back to work instead of this lazy calendar.
Speaker 6: Yes, but there are perhaps three points to make. One,
Speaker 6: he certainly doesn't want to deal with the old Senate.
Speaker 6: He wants him to deal with the new Senate. Secondly,
Speaker 6: he wants to bask I think in the life where
Speaker 6: he can flit around and visit different places to say, look,
Speaker 6: I'm doing a great job here for you and you.
Speaker 6: And certainly, of course there's the winning, which will no
Speaker 6: doubt be part of his spectacular programming for all of
Speaker 6: us to enjoy it one way or another. So but
Speaker 6: there's a bright side, what is it left? Sitting? Those
Speaker 6: means less bad legislation, yes, and that could be a plus.
Speaker 2: And of course it also means there's a lot of
Speaker 2: committee work that will go on.
Speaker 1: I'm saying not that I'm not that fuss fight.
Speaker 7: I think they're that far in front labor at the
Speaker 7: moment that like, I mean, what what sort of scrupy
Speaker 7: to the opposition.
Speaker 2: It's about them going to work. I mean the Herald
Speaker 2: did the calculations. It's it's like they each earned five
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars a day.
Speaker 7: I mean, I get that, but I also think that
Speaker 7: any good MP would need to be in their electoral
Speaker 7: office and serving their own community a fair bit of
Speaker 7: time as well. I think it's way too short and
Speaker 7: not sitting into Maybe you.
Speaker 2: Should do a daily telling investigation where you turn up
Speaker 2: to the labor and piece of us they are.
Speaker 6: I can tell you from personal experience the work you
Speaker 6: do in the electorate that takes a lot of time,
Speaker 6: and you're.
Speaker 1: In that office not just nine to five, but longer house.
Speaker 2: I spoke last night at length about the attack in
Speaker 2: Colorado when there was just a peaceful rally in.
Speaker 1: Support of the hostages.
Speaker 2: Well, now it's been confirmed that Mohammed Solomon is in
Speaker 2: America illegally from Egypt. His visa from the Biden administration
Speaker 2: had expired. I mean, James, this highlights the dangers of
Speaker 2: a loose border system where you have someone who didn't
Speaker 2: have proper paperwork to be in the country.
Speaker 7: And Sharry, America is dealing with a fair hangover from
Speaker 7: what was shocking border control from Joe Biden and the
Speaker 7: Democrats from every angle, and I think it was the
Speaker 7: number one reason that Donald Trump won back office sitting
Speaker 7: on obviously fought hard on that. But we are seeing
Speaker 7: this not just in America. We're seeing this in parts
Speaker 7: of Europe, and we're sadly in Australia. I mean, this
Speaker 7: has been the biggest argument against large scale immigration is
Speaker 7: the impact that it has on the fabric of society.
Speaker 1: We have a beautiful.
Speaker 7: Country, but if people are escaping the horrors of other
Speaker 7: parts in the world, they need to be leaving those
Speaker 7: things at the door. And sadly that doesn't always happen.
Speaker 2: Bro When do you think that perhaps hasn't been enough
Speaker 2: focus on the values.
Speaker 1: It's not so much where people.
Speaker 2: Come from, but whether they hold our democratic values.
Speaker 6: Yes, I think that's vicy important and should be considered
Speaker 6: when we think about who can come into the country.
Speaker 6: But more importantly what's happening is is that this anti
Speaker 6: semitism is becoming acceptable to a degree. It is being
Speaker 6: tolerated in societies in America here where universities seem to
Speaker 6: be tolerating it. Now, once you've got that occurring, you
Speaker 6: get these outbreaks of these sorts of people who came
Speaker 6: out it with this absolute violence because they think there's
Speaker 6: some backing for me and the cause that he says
Speaker 6: he's supporting. Always remember that NASA invited XSS people from Germany,
Speaker 6: Nazi Germany after the war to come to Cairo to
Speaker 6: help him fight against the establishment of the Jewish state.
Speaker 6: So it's been a long long time festering and it
Speaker 6: has to be strongly refuted at every single time you
Speaker 6: can think about it and remember that when you look
Speaker 6: at the universities that allow these things to occur, remember
Speaker 6: that one of the first things when Hitler won office
Speaker 6: in nineteen thirty three was to send his instrument straight
Speaker 6: to the universities to say this is the policy, no
Speaker 6: Jewish professors or lecturers allowed, and get rid of the.
Speaker 1: Student brainwashing of the young. Absolutely. I think there's also
Speaker 1: as I spoke.
Speaker 2: About last night, and I'm going to all of it again,
Speaker 2: but serious concerns now about how this free Palestine move
Speaker 2: meant is excusing and justifying violence and murder against Jews,
Speaker 2: and it's just got to stop now. The Prime Minister
Speaker 2: has suggested he's open to working with a coalition to
Speaker 2: pass Labour's super tax.
Speaker 9: Have a look if the signal from the coalition is
Speaker 9: across the board. I'm not talking specifically here that they
Speaker 9: will be more constructive and not just be part of
Speaker 9: a coalition with the Greens Party, then that would be.
Speaker 2: Welcome and it comes after Deputy Liberal Leader Ted O'Brien
Speaker 2: had this to say on My show last night. Wouldn't
Speaker 2: the coalition supporting the supertax indicate that the coalition does
Speaker 2: support higher taxes and wasn't this one of the issues
Speaker 2: that the coalition had during the election campaign.
Speaker 7: Well, look, if Labor did walk away from the components
Speaker 7: of its current measure, Shari, it would depend on what
Speaker 7: they put on the table for discussion.
Speaker 2: So James, I mean clearly the coalition position is that
Speaker 2: the unrealized capital gains, the tax on unrealized capital gains
Speaker 2: is the most egregious. But there would be a lot
Speaker 2: of pushback from coalition support. Is if they do end
Speaker 2: up supporting the super attacks.
Speaker 7: Well, I would say it's against liberal values to be
Speaker 7: supporting anything close to this and for someone to work
Speaker 7: their entire life and decide, you know, if they're halfway
Speaker 7: through their working life to have decided to invest heavily
Speaker 7: in super like my mum and dad did. All their
Speaker 7: money is in superannuation to allow any changes to that,
Speaker 7: like we all know, it's the beginning of what could
Speaker 7: be two point five million dollars or two million dollars
Speaker 7: or then suddenly it's on, you know, the next step.
Speaker 7: And so my take on last night is I think
Speaker 7: Ted O'Brien's got some work to do in his new role,
Speaker 7: and I think he was a pretty effective Energy Minister.
Speaker 7: But in regards to that Treasury step up, they've got
Speaker 7: to get this right. And I don't think and I'm
Speaker 7: sure I hope Browin would agree. I don't think the
Speaker 7: Liberal Party should be going anywhere near supporting them.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you think from it?
Speaker 6: I agree with you, James. I mean the fundamental error
Speaker 6: that was made right at the beginning of the campaign
Speaker 6: is when the Liberal Party said that they were going
Speaker 6: to oppose the tax cuts the coalition, and the Liberal
Speaker 6: Party in particular is always the party of lower taxes,
Speaker 6: So this is going that same route in my view,
Speaker 6: and I don't think they should. I've said that, yes,
Speaker 6: split the discussion on the proposal by the mister Chalmers
Speaker 6: into the tax on the over three million dollar balances,
Speaker 6: and the pernicious proposal took place a tax on realized
Speaker 6: capital gains but that does not mean you support one
Speaker 6: if you eliminate the other. The important thing here is,
Speaker 6: and I went around campaigning on this issue during the
Speaker 6: campaign when I was invited to go and do so,
Speaker 6: and I was absolutely livid that it wasn't front and
Speaker 6: center of the whole campaign because it was.
Speaker 1: That's exactly the.
Speaker 6: Same sort of measure that was put up in twenty
Speaker 6: nineteen when we argued against the pernicious attitude on frankin
Speaker 6: credits and so on.
Speaker 1: Negative hearing that, well, a negative.
Speaker 2: Here just the very principle of taxing unrealized capita.
Speaker 1: It is off the page.
Speaker 2: Yah, just out of time, and I just quickly want
Speaker 2: to get you, James about New Southewest Premier Chris Min's
Speaker 2: warnings today about the tobacco tax and he's concerned that
Speaker 2: it's boosting the black market.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, if the Treasury was fired income about money
Speaker 7: and they want to start looking at other avenues like superannuation,
Speaker 7: they need to look at the tobacco excise. In twenty nineteen,
Speaker 7: twenty twenty, it was worth sixteen billion.
Speaker 1: Dollars, a record. They have now put it up.
Speaker 7: Incrementally every year since they're this year it will be
Speaker 7: worth seven billion dollars, so half of what it was
Speaker 7: in twenty nineteen twenty twenty. In the last five years,
Speaker 7: the number of tobacconists in New South Wales has grown
Speaker 7: by five thousand from fifteen thousand to twenty thousand. We
Speaker 7: discovered today and Chris Mins is electric of Cogra, there
Speaker 7: are six tobacconists within four hundred meters of the front door.
Speaker 7: In Alberanese's electorate. There are three hundred tobacconists orree hundred
Speaker 7: registered businesses that can sell tobacco. There's been a shocking
Speaker 7: compliance issue, but we need a full scale and I
Speaker 7: don't want to blame police, but we need police involved
Speaker 7: here door to door. And also the government needs to
Speaker 7: lower the excise because we're missing out on this money
Speaker 7: by pricing people out of the market.
Speaker 1: All right, James Willis, b'm a bishop. Great to see,
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, the latest details in the
Speaker 2: case that's captivated.
Speaker 1: Our nation, the death Cap Mushroom trial.
Speaker 2: What exactly has Aaron Patterson admitted in the witness box
Speaker 2: today we'll get the details with Allie Dudley next. Well,
Speaker 2: let's turn to the court case that's taken the nation
Speaker 2: by storm. Accused killer Aaron Patterson returned to the witness
Speaker 2: box today to give evidence. She's of course charged with
Speaker 2: the murder of her parents in law, Don and Gail Patterson,
Speaker 2: and Gail's sister Heather Wilkinson. She's also charged with the
Speaker 2: attempted murder of Heather's husband, Ian Wilkinson, who miraculously survived.
Speaker 2: With the attention on this case, it was a packed
Speaker 2: courtroom today, even cues outside onlookers desperate to secure a seat,
Speaker 2: and the evidence was gripping. The Australian's I Legal Affairs
Speaker 2: correspondent Ellie Dudley was there and she joins me now
Speaker 2: from molwell In Regional Victoria. Ellie, great to see you.
Speaker 2: So what were the main takeaways from Erin's evidence today?
Speaker 1: Good to see you, Sherry.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 10: As you mentioned, this was the second day of evidence
Speaker 10: from Aaron Patterson. She was called by her defense counsel
Speaker 10: Colin Mandy yesterday.
Speaker 1: And she was asked a variety of things.
Speaker 10: She was asked about her relationships with her alleged victims.
Speaker 10: She was asked about her relationships with a bunch of
Speaker 10: online friends that she befriended through true crime Facebook groups
Speaker 10: and she was asked about mushrooms, which of course go
Speaker 10: to the center the heart of this case.
Speaker 2: So in her evidence she admitted that she did indeed
Speaker 2: forage and eat mushrooms, and she even accepted that the
Speaker 2: meal she served contained death cat mushrooms.
Speaker 1: So what does this mean for the trial?
Speaker 10: So this is the first time that we've heard from
Speaker 10: Aaron Patterson. We've heard her admit that she foraged for mushrooms.
Speaker 10: Earlier in the trial, we heard in her police interview
Speaker 10: that she told police that she had never foraged for mushrooms.
Speaker 10: But today the evidence that she gave was that she
Speaker 10: gained an interest in mushrooms during the COVID lockdowns. She
Speaker 10: would go to the gardens, the local gardens with her
Speaker 10: kids and she looked at mushrooms. She eventually started finding
Speaker 10: mushrooms on her property and then after learning a bit
Speaker 10: more about them and educating herself about mushrooms, she started
Speaker 10: cooking them in a little bit of butter, eating them
Speaker 10: and feeding them to her children. So quite consequential evidence
Speaker 10: for this case that has mushrooms. So at the center
Speaker 10: of it. Aaron Patterson has of course pleaded not guilty
Speaker 10: too deliberately feeding deaf cat mushrooms to her lunch guests.
Speaker 10: But today she did accept that deaf cat mushrooms were
Speaker 10: in the beef wellington.
Speaker 1: That she served.
Speaker 2: She also told the jury that she had body image
Speaker 2: issues and spoke about how she tried every diet under
Speaker 2: the sun, and she went to the extreme of barely
Speaker 2: eating and then binging. Ellie, what was the point of
Speaker 2: this revelation to the case? Why speak about this?
Speaker 10: We're not quite sure exactly what the point of this
Speaker 10: evidence is yet sharing, but she did get quite she
Speaker 10: got a bit emotional, and she spoke as she spoke
Speaker 10: about these body image issues that she had. She spoke
Speaker 10: about her mother weighing her as a child. She spoke
Speaker 10: about these private, unhealthy eating habits that she had, that
Speaker 10: she would binge and then bring up the food that
Speaker 10: she had binged. She said that it would be while
Speaker 10: her husband was a worker, her children were at school,
Speaker 10: and she said that she no one ever knew about
Speaker 10: it until now when obviously everybody knows about it.
Speaker 2: Interesting evidence, and of course her evidence will continue tomorrow.
Speaker 10: Yes, it will continue tomorrow, So she'll continue giving her
Speaker 10: evidence in chief and then at some point the prosecution
Speaker 10: will cross examine her.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Ellie Dudley, you're reporting in the Australian
Speaker 2: is gripping. You've got one of the rare seats in
Speaker 2: the courtroom given to the media, so will continue reading
Speaker 2: your reporting. Thanks so much for joining me, and that's
Speaker 2: all we've got time for today. And now make sure you're
Speaker 2: watching the show tomorrow at eight o'clock. I can't say who,
Speaker 2: but I've got a big interview with someone in the
Speaker 2: Trump administration, So tune in eight o'clock tomorrow night. But
Speaker 2: right now, stay tuned because Paul Murray is up next.