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Speaker 1: Well, as you're aware, the state government hoping to attract

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Speaker 2: Martin, good morning, Good morning Matthew, thank you for having

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Speaker 1: What will it mean for Adelaide?

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Speaker 2: This is truly significant, Matthew. To host, to potentially host

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Speaker 2: and the economic benefit would just be true significant for

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Speaker 1: Okay, can we house thirty thousand people?

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Speaker 1: All right, do we have space at the airport for

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Speaker 2: Well, we do. The Department of Premier and Cabinet has

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Speaker 1: Now renewable credentials presumably, and this is where you come in,

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Speaker 1: And of course the Adelaide City Council will have a

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Speaker 3: Hopefully we'd be able to work out some dedicated pickup

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Speaker 1: I'd love to know the solution to that when it happens.

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Speaker 1: But this is pretty exciting too. Good on your show.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, how are you good?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? This is exciting. If we can pull it off,

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Speaker 4: Very exciting, as the Martin and Sewan have both already said, yes,

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Speaker 1: And that's the renewable stuff that we've got going on here.

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Speaker 4: We understand that business delegates spend around four times that

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Speaker 4: to get on board and all the rest. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's it's a very exciting proposition. And from what we hear,

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Speaker 4: dpc's done its work and decided that yep, it's going

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Speaker 4: to bring in the dollars and so we're going to

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Speaker 4: go for it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, very good, we'll see Kendall Crow. Appreciate your time.

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