Speaker 1: On scoring Zostronia. This is the Wader Paney Show.
Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. We
Speaker 2: have a massive program for you tonight. Joining me shortly
Speaker 2: one of the finest thinkers of his generation Douglas Murray,
Speaker 2: who is currently under attack in the UK with left
Speaker 2: US activist demanding his arrest. Also tonight the latest local
Speaker 2: international news with Nick Kata and Kosher Gator, and later
Speaker 2: in the hour Royal and Celebrity news with Kinsey Schofield
Speaker 2: and the segment that goes viral each and every night
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Speaker 2: Joining me all the way from Bosnia is Mensi's Research Center,
Speaker 2: Senior Fellow and senior col with the Australian newspaper, Nick Cater. Nick,
Speaker 2: let's start with the ABC and it's unrelenting leftist activism
Speaker 2: and bias. Have a look at this from Sarah Ferguson
Speaker 2: this week. This is in her interview with Nancy Pelosi,
Speaker 2: former Speaker of the US House. The Trump derangement syndrome
Speaker 2: here is off the charts.
Speaker 5: Donald Trump poisoned American politics in a new way. He's
Speaker 5: clearly taken America to a dark place. Do you also
Speaker 5: hold him responsible for the dark place that he took
Speaker 5: your family to with the terrible attack on your husband
Speaker 5: in your home?
Speaker 3: Nick?
Speaker 2: Did you forget that it was Donald Trump who was
Speaker 2: almost assassinated about a month ago?
Speaker 3: And I must point out.
Speaker 2: This is the same ABC reporter who spent a considerable
Speaker 2: amount of our money pushing the thoroughly debunked Russian conspiracy
Speaker 2: theory in a three part series.
Speaker 3: Do we ever get any accountability for that?
Speaker 2: But just tell me what you think about the ABC
Speaker 2: and they're unashamed activism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think Trump arrangement syndrome is said in there,
Speaker 1: and I suggest that we send some vans with suitably
Speaker 1: protected health workers to actually take them out and swap
Speaker 1: them and test them. But I think you'd find it's
Speaker 1: pretty much one hundred percent and there's no known cure
Speaker 1: for it except perhaps taking them out of the ABC
Speaker 1: and parking them in front of Sky News for a week.
Speaker 1: But anyway, the point here is if Sarah Fergus's logic
Speaker 1: is that Donald Trump's rhetoric in some way incited some
Speaker 1: individual to go and beat up Nancy Bloni's husband and
Speaker 1: all those terrible things that happen. That is a long bow.
Speaker 1: But you could equally well say that going around talking
Speaker 1: about Trump taking America to a dark place, some poisoning
Speaker 1: politics is actually going to incite other individuals to go
Speaker 1: and to make a potshot at him, as one did.
Speaker 1: Because if you really think that Trump is the Antichrist,
Speaker 1: you know, the absolute enemy of mankind, then what won't
Speaker 1: you do to stop him? So I think this idea
Speaker 1: that in I mean, I'm not a great believer in
Speaker 1: the fact that inflammatory rhetoric does these things. I think
Speaker 1: that's down to individuals who make those decisions. But if
Speaker 1: you're going to go with that logic, Sarah, then you'd
Speaker 1: better watch your own language.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these people can't even follow their own stupid rules.
Speaker 6: There.
Speaker 3: The double standards are many.
Speaker 2: Now let's go to Cabra and the unedifying outbursts we
Speaker 2: saw today. Here is our Green Senator Sarah Hanson Young
Speaker 2: heckling the Nationals David Little Proud while he was addressing
Speaker 2: the media.
Speaker 7: Peter Darton has laid out a pathway more so than
Speaker 7: what many of Palestine's o neighbors.
Speaker 8: Would maybe say something about the children that are being.
Speaker 2: Slaughter Why don't you say something about the children being slaughtered?
Speaker 3: That's what she said. If you couldn't hear it.
Speaker 2: And in the Lower House we had at till MP's
Speaker 2: Alie Stegel, independent till whatever she is, she called the
Speaker 2: opposition leader racist.
Speaker 4: I would like to share is the human story, the
Speaker 4: real story about some of the people we're talking about,
Speaker 4: the lives they're talking And I would ask you to
Speaker 4: be silent.
Speaker 7: I have the floor.
Speaker 3: Order we hurt you in silence. You can hear me
Speaker 3: in silence. Order stop being racist.
Speaker 7: The opposition order.
Speaker 3: Well, it was an offensive and unparliamentary remark.
Speaker 8: It should be withdrawn.
Speaker 4: Is a description of language being racist and unparliamentary remark.
Speaker 2: Nicka, how do you see the conduct of Stegel and
Speaker 2: Hans and Young.
Speaker 1: Look, this may be a wild theory fritchart, but I
Speaker 1: wonder if actually Stegel and Hanson Young in some strange
Speaker 1: way are actually on the Peter Dutton team campaigning to
Speaker 1: get him elected. Because this you couldn't buy this sort
Speaker 1: of publicity. Really, if you're Peter Dutton, you know, ordinary working,
Speaker 1: decent people out there, Australians, patriotic Australians are right on
Speaker 1: board with Peter Dutton. There are no votes in what
Speaker 1: Anthony Albanezi is proposing, which is basically open doors of Palestinians.
Speaker 1: People want their borders protected. They can see that when
Speaker 1: you get seventy five percent of people in Gaza apparently
Speaker 1: an opinion poll who support hamas well, you know, are
Speaker 1: we just going to be lucky and just get that
Speaker 1: twenty five percent who don't? Of course not. So you know,
Speaker 1: ordinary decent, patriotic Australians are right behind Peter Dutton. And
Speaker 1: every time you get these sort of displays of I
Speaker 1: don't know, virtue signaling in his ear, then it just
Speaker 1: adds to people's concerns and puts them behind him. So yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: no marks to Sali's Stegel or ra Hanson Young for
Speaker 1: that well.
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton. Peter Dutton is coppying it from the media
Speaker 2: as well. No surprises there. He was asked this on
Speaker 2: nine today. He was asked whether he's a heartless racist.
Speaker 3: Have a listen, good to see it are you heartless?
Speaker 7: A heartless racist? Do you have any humanity?
Speaker 2: All he could do was laugh there and collect his thoughts.
Speaker 3: I don't know how else do you respond.
Speaker 1: To a question like that, Nick, No, I mean you
Speaker 1: put that question to be do you have any humanity?
Speaker 1: I don't quite know if i'd know what to say. Look,
Speaker 1: it is ridiculous, but it's like all these things. Really,
Speaker 1: do you know if we were to have a referendum
Speaker 1: on this tomorrow, you know how to referendum? Theoretically? Should
Speaker 1: we let in guards and refugees or people who claim
Speaker 1: their refugees without being able to check their bona fides?
Speaker 1: The result would be an emphatic no. It would make
Speaker 1: the voice reference of look tiny.
Speaker 7: You know that.
Speaker 1: So you know Peter Dutton is clearly with the majority
Speaker 1: of the Australian people. But having to battle against this
Speaker 1: huge tide of wokeness that pours out of Fairfax and
Speaker 1: the ABC and the Parliament and SBS and every other pace,
Speaker 1: you know, he's got to keep his head above water.
Speaker 1: But if he can do that, I think he can
Speaker 1: win this issue, no problem.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely.
Speaker 2: I think he's used to getting harsh media treatment, but
Speaker 2: I think that treatment is going to.
Speaker 3: Be far worse than he's ever seen.
Speaker 2: He is the opposition leader now, the polls of Titan
Speaker 2: is within a winning margin, and he's coming out strongly
Speaker 2: with these conservative positions after the success of the no
Speaker 2: campaign for the Voice, and I think the media campaign
Speaker 2: against him is going to intensify.
Speaker 3: Nick.
Speaker 2: Now, before you go, I want to play you this
Speaker 2: clip that the Marla Harris campaign have released is just
Speaker 2: again so authentic and real.
Speaker 3: Have a look.
Speaker 7: I called you, Tim, Yes, you didn't answer, Tim.
Speaker 9: I know, I know the what happened, the most important
Speaker 9: call of my life. It popped up and we didn't
Speaker 9: recognize the caller a D and it went to A
Speaker 9: went to voicemail.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Hey, Tim, it's Kamla. I really want to
Speaker 3: talk to you, Nicka.
Speaker 2: We've run out of time, and thank God, because I
Speaker 2: don't know how much more of the Kamala and Wolves
Speaker 2: I can stomach. Nick Kita enjoyed Bosnia. Thanks for your
Speaker 2: time this evening.
Speaker 3: Joining me now.
Speaker 2: Is author of international best sellers, including The War on
Speaker 2: the West and The Strange Death of Europe. One of
Speaker 2: the finest thinkers of his generation, Douglas Marian Douglas, you
Speaker 2: are right now under attack. The left in the UK
Speaker 2: are trying to cancel you. They want you banned from
Speaker 2: tver appearances. They want you to stop writing for publications
Speaker 2: like The Spectator. But it hasn't stopped there, led by
Speaker 2: the likes of Alistair Campbell, He's a supposed former journalist
Speaker 2: turned to Tony blas spokesperson New Labor spokesperson.
Speaker 3: He and others are.
Speaker 2: Wanting you arrested and charged for offensive commentary also known
Speaker 2: as telling the truth. What is going on in the UK?
Speaker 2: And do you fear that police are scrutinizing your tweets
Speaker 2: and interviews and things you've written.
Speaker 7: Well, all that caused this was the fact that I've
Speaker 7: used my eyes in recent decades, and I've also used
Speaker 7: my pen, and I have described what has happened to
Speaker 7: my country of birth, Great Britain, and the continent of Europe,
Speaker 7: and indeed the way to develop world and the challenges
Speaker 7: that come through illegal and legal mass migration. That's not
Speaker 7: all migration, but illegal and legal mass migration. Interestingly enough,
Speaker 7: this interview that seems to have coursed this breakdown from
Speaker 7: Alistair Campbell was one in which I simply said what
Speaker 7: I describe in the strange death of Europe as happening
Speaker 7: is indeed what is now happening. And I said this,
Speaker 7: as many people have noted, not in a spirit of glee,
Speaker 7: but in one of deep lamentation. I never wanted to
Speaker 7: be proved right on this, and it gives me absolutely
Speaker 7: no joy to have been proven right that the importing
Speaker 7: of very large numbers of people illegally and legally from
Speaker 7: very different cultures into a society which totally fails to
Speaker 7: integrate them will lead to massive problems, including at some
Speaker 7: point a massive backlash. Now it's interesting Alistair Campbell should
Speaker 7: have been one of the ones to try to start
Speaker 7: this pile on. Of course, Alistair Campbell was part of
Speaker 7: the Labor government that in the late nineties and early
Speaker 7: two thousands massively ramped up illegal and legal migration into
Speaker 7: the UK. He's actually one of the architects of this problem,
Speaker 7: a problem which one of his colleagues at the time
Speaker 7: described as being deliberate. See one of his colleagues said
Speaker 7: he came out of meetings about this issue with a
Speaker 7: very clear feeling that the Labor government of Tony Blair
Speaker 7: wanted this mass movement of people into the UK to
Speaker 7: quote rub the rights nose in diversity. Well, of course
Speaker 7: all these things had unexpected consequences, but Alistair Campbell is
Speaker 7: one of the people responsible for them. I'm only responsible
Speaker 7: for pointing out the facts and the lamentable situation that
Speaker 7: he got our country into. There's a couple of other
Speaker 7: things very quickly, Rita. Of course, this man Campbell is
Speaker 7: best known for his lying dossier about WMD in Iraq,
Speaker 7: which helped bounce Britain and other countries into the Iraq War.
Speaker 7: So if he had any kind of sense of decency,
Speaker 7: he would have disappeared from public life for a long
Speaker 7: time ago. He was, also, of course, a person who
Speaker 7: hounded doctor David Kelly to suicide. And that's one of
Speaker 7: the really interesting things about Alistair Campbell. He's an unbelievable
Speaker 7: bully and a hack. And one of the things about him,
Speaker 7: like most hacks and bullies of his kind, he thinks
Speaker 7: that he can hide behind, as he always does, the
Speaker 7: claim that he himself is very mentally fragile. One of
Speaker 7: the interesting things about that is he can chase people
Speaker 7: like David Kelly to suicide. But if you criticize Alistair
Speaker 7: Campbell for his frequent bursts of utter insanity. He says
Speaker 7: that you are using his mental health against him. He's
Speaker 7: a totally sick individual on every possible level. I make
Speaker 7: no apology for pointing out the terrible things that he
Speaker 7: and his friends did to my country.
Speaker 2: Well, your greatest crime appears to be that you were right.
Speaker 2: You wrote about this years ago. You warned about what
Speaker 2: was going to happen in the Strange Death of Europe.
Speaker 2: You were right when you warned of the unrest that
Speaker 2: would come in books like The Madness of Crowds and
Speaker 2: The War against the West. And as the great Thomas
Speaker 2: Sow wrote, people will forgive you for being wrong, but
Speaker 2: they will never forgive you for being right. And what
Speaker 2: you talked about that mass migration. We've got that discussion
Speaker 2: happening right here in Australia. We've had record numbers coming
Speaker 2: in legally. But if they're not assimilating, if they don't
Speaker 2: share your values, as we've seen in the UK, you're
Speaker 2: going to have these problems and just trying to stomp
Speaker 2: it out with two tier policing and a justice system
Speaker 2: Douglas isn't going to solve the underlying issue.
Speaker 7: No, absolutely not. I mean, as I said for many
Speaker 7: years the mass movement of people, often who dislike the
Speaker 7: culture they're moving into intensely, and that always amazes me.
Speaker 7: I don't understand why people would move to societies that
Speaker 7: they dislike very much, but lots of numbers of people do,
Speaker 7: mainly just because they want to be in a system
Speaker 7: which can reward of them at least to some extent financially,
Speaker 7: either through welfare or through the economy, that works far
Speaker 7: better than the countries that they've fled from. But if
Speaker 7: you bring people from very strong cultures, with very strong
Speaker 7: ethnic identities and religious identities into countries are completely apologetic,
Speaker 7: how toowed self shamed and embarrassed about their past, as
Speaker 7: is the story that has been pushed on the people
Speaker 7: of Australia in recent years, as has been the story
Speaker 7: pushed on the people of Britain, Europe and America in
Speaker 7: recent years. You don't have a hope of integrating people.
Speaker 7: So yes, all of this stuff is absolutely predictable. It
Speaker 7: doesn't require a profit. It just requires people with their
Speaker 7: eyes open and a willingness to tell the truth. And
Speaker 7: I hope that people do have their eyes open and
Speaker 7: continue to tell the truth as I will, and I'm
Speaker 7: not going to be intimidated by any of these people
Speaker 7: who should have so much guilt on their consciences. I
Speaker 7: would be surprised that they dare to show their faces
Speaker 7: in public again.
Speaker 2: Now, along with you, the other great enemy of the
Speaker 2: left right now appears to be Elon Musk, particularly amongst
Speaker 2: the political media activist class.
Speaker 3: Look at this.
Speaker 2: Deranged piece in the Guardian where else with the headline
Speaker 2: you know who else should be on trial for the
Speaker 2: UK's far right riots, Elon Musk? That was the headline,
Speaker 2: and the piece goes on to call Musk one of
Speaker 2: the world's most prolific enemies of truth. This assault against
Speaker 2: free speech in the UK is really quite sinister and
Speaker 2: I've got to say effective. Of course, it's not going
Speaker 2: to silence the likes of Elon Musk, but the average
Speaker 2: person may refrain from posting something on their Facebook page
Speaker 2: when they see people being arrested for online posts for
Speaker 2: things that are considered offensive, not just threatening or abusive,
Speaker 2: but just offensive. It seems to be a line that
Speaker 2: you can't cross.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, including retweeting videos of things that have happened.
Speaker 7: The interesting thing about Jonathan Friedland of the Garden He's
Speaker 7: a very obscure figure. He's not at all known outside
Speaker 7: of the small amount of the left wing in the UK.
Speaker 7: But of course, to think that somebody like him would
Speaker 7: have the audacity to claim that the British authority should
Speaker 7: arrest an American citizen. I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 7: Jonathan Friedland knows his history. I assume he does. He's
Speaker 7: a relatively intelligent man, but he should know that America
Speaker 7: fort quite significant war in order that American citizens would
Speaker 7: not in fact be under the writ of British law.
Speaker 7: And thank goodness, Elon Musku isn't, And thank goodness, he
Speaker 7: has the guts to continue, like a number of the
Speaker 7: rest of us, to say what is the truth. The
Speaker 7: interesting thing, by the way, about two things to say
Speaker 7: about Jonathan Friedland and this ridiculous piece. One is that
Speaker 7: Jonathan Friedland actually, after noticing the success of the Da
Speaker 7: Vinci Code and other sort of rather low boilerplate novels,
Speaker 7: started writing novels himself under pseudonym, and one of them,
Speaker 7: published in twenty seventeen, is an extended wet dream about
Speaker 7: the idea of the assassination of President Trump. It's extremely open.
Speaker 7: That's the only skill of the book such as it is,
Speaker 7: is that it's an excitable book for people who would
Speaker 7: have loved to see Donald Trump getting assassinated. On that principle,
Speaker 7: of course, inmperhaps the American authorities you ought to ask
Speaker 7: for the extradition of Jonathan Friedland writing a crappy genre
Speaker 7: novel under a pseudonym in which he dreams of the
Speaker 7: assassination of President Trump. Of course, it would be ridiculous
Speaker 7: to do so, because nobody would read his book. But
Speaker 7: the other thing to be said about these people is
Speaker 7: that they just have this satalitarian authoritarian instinct which they
Speaker 7: just can't get rid of. They think everything should always
Speaker 7: go their way. They think they should be the censors
Speaker 7: of the town square. And the reason why you see
Speaker 7: so much of the media running against Elon Musk at
Speaker 7: the moment is that they recognize that his platform Twitter
Speaker 7: is beating all of them of them in all of
Speaker 7: the stakes the media absorption around the world, and that's
Speaker 7: very scary for some of these old media who can't
Speaker 7: keep up and don't have very many readers, like The Guardian.
Speaker 7: But you know, it is a very important thing you
Speaker 7: mentioned their reader that in actual fact and Roan Atkinson
Speaker 7: no less said that it's in a speech eleven years ago.
Speaker 7: It's perfectly possible. You see that people like me, billionaires
Speaker 7: like Elon Musk, will be able to get through this
Speaker 7: era and will survive it. And I certainly plan to,
Speaker 7: and I'm sure and know that Musk does as well.
Speaker 7: But what about, as you say, the person who does
Speaker 7: not have the platform that I have or the means
Speaker 7: that Elon Musk has, What about them? When as is
Speaker 7: happening all the time at the moment in the UK
Speaker 7: police forces that have not solved one burglary, yes you
Speaker 7: heard that right, not one burglary in recent years, and
Speaker 7: knocking on people's doors and arresting them for Facebook posts,
Speaker 7: for retweeting things. Sure, there is some people who've said
Speaker 7: some horrible things and disgraceful things in recent weeks, but
Speaker 7: oh my, the priorities of the British police, you know,
Speaker 7: they are really treading into very very dangerous or Wellyan
Speaker 7: waters I it turns out, and the rest of the
Speaker 7: public in Britain can't trust them to solve a burglary.
Speaker 7: Would I trust them to police my speech? No? I
Speaker 7: don't think so.
Speaker 2: No, No, And the treatment you're receiving the treatment Elon
Speaker 2: Musk is receiving is what Donald Trump has been copying.
Speaker 3: For some years now.
Speaker 2: And he's a two hour chat with Elon Musk had
Speaker 2: a lot of the media triggered. It did reach an
Speaker 2: enormous audience despite having technical issues at the start.
Speaker 3: But look at some of the media coverage we were
Speaker 3: treated to.
Speaker 2: This is from USA Today starts with this line for
Speaker 2: a fascism curious billionaire who loves cuddling up to right
Speaker 2: wing loons, I mean, and it got progressively worse from
Speaker 2: the from their Douglas Trump's call the media the enemy
Speaker 2: of the people, and sadly it seems there are many
Speaker 2: in the industry who seem desperate to live up to
Speaker 2: that tag.
Speaker 7: These are just dying entities. I mean, USA Today is
Speaker 7: such a failing newspapers. There's a spin as as a
Speaker 7: loo role and it's just an unbelievable rag now and
Speaker 7: almost no information in it unless you want to follow
Speaker 7: the baseball, which lots of people do. But in terms
Speaker 7: of news, it's just the worst possible way to absorb news.
Speaker 7: But they just have an agenda and they just show
Speaker 7: it more and more. They describe Elon Musk as a fascist.
Speaker 7: They describe the former president of the United States. Maybe
Speaker 7: the next president is a just just a right wing loon.
Speaker 7: And you know, these these people you can just you
Speaker 7: can write their headlines and their articles before the event occurs.
Speaker 7: And I'm sure some of these people do. I bet
Speaker 7: that guy decided to do that. And you know, of
Speaker 7: course they don't point out that it seems, whatever your
Speaker 7: criticisms of Donald Trump, he did this very lengthy conversation
Speaker 7: with Elon Musk. It's rather more than we've seen from
Speaker 7: Kamala Harris in recent weeks. But of course they don't
Speaker 7: mention that. They don't note that because it's just the
Speaker 7: backing chorus of the Democratic Party. That's all these these
Speaker 7: dying media brands are. The public can see it for
Speaker 7: what it's worth. And if you want a little bit
Speaker 7: of dying left wing media commentary with your baseball results,
Speaker 7: I suppose you can go to us A today. But
Speaker 7: it turns out most of the world is going to
Speaker 7: ex Twitter.
Speaker 2: Well, the reach of that interview is astonishing, unlike really
Speaker 2: anything you see elsewhere. Now one two, before you go play,
Speaker 2: you a little clip from the Stephen Colbert Show featuring
Speaker 2: CNN anchor Caitlin Collins. What is curious here or well please,
Speaker 2: is the crowd reaction when Colbert makes this claim.
Speaker 10: I know you guys are objective over there, that you
Speaker 10: just report the news as it is.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know a CNN makes it.
Speaker 7: And they're not. That's supposed to be a live life
Speaker 7: I wasn't supposed to be, but I guess it is.
Speaker 2: Douglas even his leftist crowd just burst out laughing at
Speaker 2: that claim that CNN just reports the news. They're just
Speaker 2: straight down the line, unbiased, and this diminishing trust in institutions,
Speaker 2: including the media, the police we've spoken about, and judiciary increasingly.
Speaker 2: It's not healthy, but I think in a way it
Speaker 2: is healthy that people are actually getting awareness of some
Speaker 2: of the double standards that exist.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean this institutional distrust is as
Speaker 7: I've said to you before, Rito, we've discussed this. It's
Speaker 7: about the fact that the public can see through these institutions.
Speaker 7: If a police force doesn't solve berg even go to
Speaker 7: the scene of a crime, but it does go for
Speaker 7: a Twitter x post.
Speaker 6: You know, there's a.
Speaker 7: Problem of priorities in the police force, likewise in the media.
Speaker 7: When you see the coverage of things like CNN. It's
Speaker 7: not just that it's biased in its stance. Not everything,
Speaker 7: by the way, occasionally there's something on CNN that's relatively
Speaker 7: good and relatively impartial. But the thing is, but what
Speaker 7: they actually choose, they what gives it away time and
Speaker 7: again is what they choose to focus on. They choose
Speaker 7: to focus on things that boost the narrative that they have,
Speaker 7: whether that's foreign policy, whether it's the war in Ukraine
Speaker 7: or the war in Israel in Gaza, or whether it's
Speaker 7: things domestically, whether it's just puffing up their candidate to
Speaker 7: get her into office in November. And I was delighted
Speaker 7: to see that. I mean, I don't I just can't
Speaker 7: watch Stephen Colbert most of the time. Almost nobody does.
Speaker 7: But I mean, you know, started off as a media
Speaker 7: now he's just become one of these sermonizers, boring sermonizers
Speaker 7: of the American left in what used to be late
Speaker 7: night com swats. But it was wonderful to see that
Speaker 7: his audience was wayser than he was and knew more
Speaker 7: than he did, and laughed in the face of the
Speaker 7: idea that CNN simply attempts to report the truth.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: It was the best moment of the whole interview and
Speaker 2: unintentionally funny. Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your
Speaker 2: time this evening.
Speaker 7: Great pleasures always, thank you.
Speaker 3: Still to come.
Speaker 2: It's a bumper edition of the Left Is Losing Ed
Speaker 2: and some surprising data for Donald Trump. Welcome back. Now
Speaker 2: it's time for Lefties Losing Ed. We're going to have
Speaker 2: some stella carmala content for you shortly, but first a
Speaker 2: trigger warning for all the sensitive souls out there. The
Speaker 2: following clip we'll have Lefties Lose It. Here is Pastor
Speaker 2: Gino j expressing his disdain for those who don't know
Speaker 2: what a woman is, including President Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: Remember him, he is apparently still president.
Speaker 7: Congressman in Congress trying to find what a woman is?
Speaker 7: What is a woman? It's your mama? Make sure dat
Speaker 7: what's a woman? Your mama?
Speaker 11: President by joining in on a conversation, is a woman?
Speaker 7: Is your mother?
Speaker 5: Man's past eighty?
Speaker 1: Isn't it?
Speaker 7: You mean her? Tell me you past eighty?
Speaker 3: You don't know your your mama and your.
Speaker 7: Wife is a woman.
Speaker 3: Hallelujah. Now here is a woman who.
Speaker 2: Should be listening to the good pastor, because I can
Speaker 2: guarantee you she won't be able to answer the question
Speaker 2: what is a woman. Let's hear from Delta Airlines top
Speaker 2: d I officer that's diversity, equity and inclusion and her
Speaker 2: plan to make air travel more woke and gender inclusive.
Speaker 6: Then we're beginning to take a hard look at things
Speaker 6: like our health announcements. You know, we welcome ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 6: and we've asked ourselves as that as gender inclusive as
Speaker 6: we want to be. You know, we're looking at some
Speaker 6: legacy language that exists in some of our employee manuals
Speaker 6: and getting to the root of the way some things
Speaker 6: are described.
Speaker 2: Now let's go to the UK and the so called
Speaker 2: anti racism protest.
Speaker 3: That's not what they actually are.
Speaker 2: And some of those attending cannot even distinguish between illegal
Speaker 2: or legal migration or what taxpayer money is being spent on.
Speaker 2: Listen to this young virtue signaling ignoramous is.
Speaker 1: The anti immigration or illegal immigration?
Speaker 8: What do you say, I don't think anybody's illegal.
Speaker 7: I hear this a lot.
Speaker 5: What means refugee is not illegal because people aren't illegal, of.
Speaker 2: Course, but when they come into the country about passports,
Speaker 2: what can you do about that?
Speaker 5: We can welcome them in their refugees, their asylums.
Speaker 3: So because they're fleeing persecution.
Speaker 10: And how do you feel about the tax payer having
Speaker 10: to pay for that?
Speaker 7: The taxpay doesn't pay for that.
Speaker 5: Answering a question, The tax pay doesn't pay for league immigrants.
Speaker 2: Now, times are hard and inflation is biting. But if
Speaker 2: you rely on tips for your income, perhaps don't be
Speaker 2: an entitled prat like this.
Speaker 3: Next dude, thank you. I just want to say, it's
Speaker 3: a nice house.
Speaker 6: For a five dollars tip, you are.
Speaker 3: It looked like it was delivering one pizza there. How
Speaker 3: much of a tip did he expect?
Speaker 2: Now, talking about entitled young men, these two mysscreens really
Speaker 2: are deplorable watches. They laugh when court vandalizing a shop
Speaker 2: owner's outdoor space, even as he tells them how much
Speaker 2: it costs him.
Speaker 12: Are you serious, man?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Are you serious?
Speaker 10: I paid sixteen care for this whole place to set.
Speaker 10: It's twenty five thousand dollars. Fine, So I go forward
Speaker 10: this video to the cops and see what they're gonna do.
Speaker 2: They have absolutely no fear of the police there or
Speaker 2: the fact that they are on camera committing crimes.
Speaker 3: I mean, is vandalism still a crime in Blue States?
Speaker 2: Now to a regular on this segment, and frankly, I've
Speaker 2: missed her.
Speaker 3: She may no longer be on the view, but.
Speaker 2: She keeps bringing the goods, and her Trump derangement syndrome
Speaker 2: shows no signs of improvement.
Speaker 3: Here is Rosie O'Donnell.
Speaker 12: Are you watching this moron speak? Can he form a
Speaker 12: coherent sentence? He is the worst thing that ever happened, period,
Speaker 12: and he's just babbling like an incoherent He's.
Speaker 3: Like doctor Doom. He's the worst thing.
Speaker 2: Now to another lefty celebrity losing it. Here is how
Speaker 2: Lebron James treats a young fan.
Speaker 7: I'll do that.
Speaker 3: Awful awful. He ain't no Jordan, that's for sure. He's
Speaker 3: more the male.
Speaker 2: Meghan Rapperno remember her, I've missed her too. Here she
Speaker 2: is at Seattle's Pride parade, refusing to answer a very
Speaker 2: simple question.
Speaker 13: You're US women's soccer team famously lost to high school boys.
Speaker 13: You really think it's fair for these same boys to
Speaker 13: be competing in girls sports? Why should trans people compete
Speaker 13: against young girls?
Speaker 3: Do you know I think that they're going to get hurt.
Speaker 3: Are they gonna get her?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 2: How clever to take a drink so she doesn't have
Speaker 2: to answer. Yes, Meghan supports trans women. I am men
Speaker 2: competing against women, even though an under fifteen boys squad
Speaker 2: smashed the national team.
Speaker 3: Now let's have some Kamala action. And she really is.
Speaker 2: An intellectual, a leader of rare ability and courage and principle.
Speaker 3: So much principle.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna get mad when we have an Attorney general
Speaker 12: who is trying to resuscitate the war on drugs?
Speaker 3: Yes, can we talk?
Speaker 12: And he thinks the greatest evil that mankind has ever
Speaker 12: seen is marijuana. It's like I've said this and you've
Speaker 12: seen this in my emails. Leave Grandma's medical marijuana alone.
Speaker 2: So this is the same woman who convicted almost two
Speaker 2: thousand people for marijuana violations and send many of them
Speaker 2: to prison.
Speaker 3: Did she think no one would remember that? Well, the
Speaker 3: bulk of the American.
Speaker 2: Media has forgotten, and Kamala herself seems to have a
Speaker 2: a few memory issues.
Speaker 3: How dare we speak? Merry Christmas? How dare we merry Christmas?
Speaker 4: Everyone?
Speaker 2: And the Vice President seems to think that one pumps
Speaker 2: electricity into an ev an electric vehicle like you pump
Speaker 2: gas into a regular car.
Speaker 3: Watch this hilarity. And there's no sound or film.
Speaker 14: There is nothing.
Speaker 11: I used to every.
Speaker 3: Morning filling our tents.
Speaker 11: You usually can smell it, and you can hear it.
Speaker 3: You can hear the guzzling sound, none of that.
Speaker 8: So how do I know it's actually working?
Speaker 2: I wonder how many hours she would stand there just
Speaker 2: holding the bowser. And let's now go to a non
Speaker 2: binary dog. Watch this and try to figure out if
Speaker 2: the owner is serious or mocking the painfully woke.
Speaker 3: I'd like to think it's the latter. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: your dog is so cute? Can you pet her?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 11: Day is actually non binary, but you can pet if
Speaker 11: you guess.
Speaker 6: It's really not againing misgender dogs.
Speaker 2: And let's end lefties this week with this classic bit
Speaker 2: of comedy from Stephen Hughes about being offended.
Speaker 3: This never gets old.
Speaker 14: Having a live in democracy, but I never want to
Speaker 14: be offended again. Well, you're an idiot.
Speaker 7: How do you make a law about offending people?
Speaker 14: How do you make an offense to offend people? Being
Speaker 14: offended is subjective? How has everything to do with you
Speaker 14: as an individual or a collective or a group or
Speaker 14: a society or a community, your moral conditioning, your religious beliefs.
Speaker 14: What offends me may not offend you, and you want
Speaker 14: to make laws about this. I'm offended when I see
Speaker 14: boy bands, For God's sake, it's a val offense of offended.
Speaker 14: The corporate shills posing his musicians to further a modeling career,
Speaker 14: and frankly, I'm disgusted. But what am I going to do?
Speaker 7: Call the cops? Hello, it's May again.
Speaker 14: They're on the telly this time.
Speaker 7: Five of them.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, white suits dancing like girls.
Speaker 14: That's them. Five minutes, I'll be out the front, traumatized.
Speaker 3: By now, we'll be looking at more.
Speaker 2: Left is losing it content with my next guest Guy
Speaker 2: news contributor Kosher, geta Kosher.
Speaker 3: Let's start with.
Speaker 2: CNN, and they're typically anti Trump content, but there was
Speaker 2: a dose of reality in amongst that TDS and it
Speaker 2: came from an unlikely source. Polster Frank Luntzu's no Trump fan,
Speaker 2: but he can't hide this trend. This data is remarkable.
Speaker 15: But I assure you that Donald Trump is doing better
Speaker 15: among the average union member, not teachers unions and not
Speaker 15: the unions for government, but everybody else. The trades people
Speaker 15: work in their hands. He's doing better among them than
Speaker 15: any Republican has done in decades. This is not going
Speaker 15: to be a problem for him. The union leadership is
Speaker 15: more divided from their membership, and the louder that it gets,
Speaker 15: the greater the divides are going to come in and
Speaker 15: my focus groups. And this is remarkable to me. The
Speaker 15: union membership says they don't speak for me. And I've
Speaker 15: been doing this now since nineteen I hate to say this,
Speaker 15: eighty nine, nineteen ninety. I've never had union people publicly
Speaker 15: say they don't speak for me.
Speaker 2: Kosher, that was sobering news for the panel. What do
Speaker 2: you make of those insights?
Speaker 8: That's probably the best news Trump has received in the
Speaker 8: last two weeks, where there's been a lot of discussion
Speaker 8: about the era coming out of the balloon as the
Speaker 8: race resets. For Kamala Harris, the key for him is
Speaker 8: the working class and that comment about the treaties to
Speaker 8: the Australian parlance, you know, goes straight to that he
Speaker 8: won them by some remarkable margin in twenty sixteen. I
Speaker 8: think it was thirty six points highest ever in history
Speaker 8: that group. He lost a little bit of that in
Speaker 8: twenty twenty, but still had a huge margin. And right
Speaker 8: now some pools are saying that Kamala Herra, who's actually
Speaker 8: really shrunk that margin for him even more and that
Speaker 8: is the key to his victory. So if true, and
Speaker 8: if you can continue to build on that, that is
Speaker 8: going to be what is on his path to two
Speaker 8: seventy and it was I think, so I'll bring news
Speaker 8: as a result of that fabersion and.
Speaker 2: Panel and very interesting to that divide between the average
Speaker 2: union member and their leadership. And you wonder how sustainable
Speaker 2: that model is where you're paying your dues to people
Speaker 2: who really are not representing your interest and don't like you,
Speaker 2: and don't like you but like union members. Trump is
Speaker 2: also enjoying a level of support from Hispanic voters Republicans
Speaker 2: that seldom.
Speaker 3: See you've ever seen.
Speaker 2: The latest ge pole, the National g poll commissioned by
Speaker 2: Fox News shows that Trump is leading Kamala but just
Speaker 2: one percent amongst the national vote, But when you look
Speaker 2: at the Hispanic voters, the lead is six percent, fifty
Speaker 2: two to forty six against something back in twenty and sixteen.
Speaker 2: If you suggested this, he'd.
Speaker 3: Be thrown into some sort of an asylum Kosher.
Speaker 8: The Hispanic vote is really interesting because it's the fastest
Speaker 8: growing demographic in the US and Trump has made in
Speaker 8: roads with them. I think Bush actually did quite well
Speaker 8: with them, maybe surprising to many, and then after that
Speaker 8: Republicans don't do that well. Trump did. He raised and
Speaker 8: grew his support with them in twenty twenty versus twenty sixteen.
Speaker 8: And if that trend holds, given that group is growing
Speaker 8: and they are in some of those battleground states, there
Speaker 8: are certainly pockets of them, it could be quite interesting.
Speaker 8: I think, you know it as policies on the economy
Speaker 8: and all of that. A lot of them are small
Speaker 8: business owners, and that resonates with them. Also, it's a personality,
Speaker 8: sort of that machismo aspect of the Trump personality I
Speaker 8: think resonates a lot certainly with Hispanic men.
Speaker 2: And I think also when it comes to the culture wars,
Speaker 2: because that demographic tends to be socially conservative. They do
Speaker 2: not like all this pronoun indoctrination in schools, all the
Speaker 2: extremes that elements of the left, particularly in the Democrats,
Speaker 2: have gone. I think that would be leaving a lot
Speaker 2: of them uncomfortable, and not just Hispanic voters, but a
Speaker 2: lot of other migrant groups. And this is something again
Speaker 2: the left, the media activist don't seem to understand. There's
Speaker 2: a marked difference between legal migrants and illegal immigrants, and
Speaker 2: legal migrants are often the ones who are most vehemently
Speaker 2: against illegal.
Speaker 8: Immigration, absolutely because they know what it's like to have
Speaker 8: gotten in and what a gift it is to come
Speaker 8: from the countries that they come from and to be
Speaker 8: in here. And they're probably even more offended I think
Speaker 8: by others from where they come from, cutting the line
Speaker 8: and crossing aver legally.
Speaker 2: Especially if they don't have those shared values, that don't
Speaker 2: have the work ethic. Perhaps that's I think all part
Speaker 2: of it. Now, let's talk about the economic credentials of
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris's VP pick. A prominent business leader and Shark
Speaker 2: Tank host Kevin O'Leary has slammed Team Walls's record as
Speaker 2: governor of Minnesota.
Speaker 10: I'm looking at the track record of an individual came
Speaker 10: into a state and wiped out job creation. He wiped
Speaker 10: out job creation in professional in manufacturing, in accounting, in
Speaker 10: every subcategory. You look at those jobs moved to South
Speaker 10: Dakota and North Dakota the South Dakota job rate right
Speaker 10: now is four times that of Minnesota, and Minnesota only
Speaker 10: creates jobs in services that are funded by the government
Speaker 10: healthcare and social services. Every other sector is in decline.
Speaker 10: He's also added a surcharge of one percent one hundred
Speaker 10: basis points on top of nine point eight percent taxes
Speaker 10: on individuals that are retiring, and of course they're leaving
Speaker 10: the state in drones kosher.
Speaker 2: That seems to be true for many leftist governments, including
Speaker 2: right here in Australia, particularly here in Victoria, the job's
Speaker 2: growth tend to be taxpayer funded jobs whilst businesses are fleeing.
Speaker 2: And that data comparing North and South Dakota to Minnesota
Speaker 2: is very interesting.
Speaker 8: It is, and indeed some would say that's by design
Speaker 8: with left leaning governments and not by defect, because it
Speaker 8: shures up their power structure if you have more and
Speaker 8: more people dependent on the government, including for their jobs.
Speaker 8: The thing that the US has, it's really built in
Speaker 8: structural advantage that is lust. So here is it has
Speaker 8: fifty stats, so there's more of that option for mobility
Speaker 8: interestate mobility than there is given Australia structure. And you
Speaker 8: see that where Minnesota, I think is in the top
Speaker 8: fifteen states without flowing migration people fleeing, So New York
Speaker 8: California are at the top top and Minnesota is just
Speaker 8: as that mentions, and it definitely accelerated under his watch
Speaker 8: for a lot of his policies, economic, COVID and everything else.
Speaker 8: So I think that's a point that the other team
Speaker 8: should keep heading on.
Speaker 2: And they think it's a coincidence that many of the
Speaker 2: top ten states that citizens are fleeing from tend to
Speaker 2: be blue and the ones they go to tend to
Speaker 2: be red. Florida, Texas, Tennessee one of the biggest beneficiaries
Speaker 2: of that domestic migration. And you mentioned New York, California, Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Now let's talk a little bit more about Tim Walls
Speaker 2: is also under fire for a massive COVID nineteen fraud
Speaker 2: that happened under his watch as minnesot So to governor.
Speaker 2: More than two hundred and fifty million dollars of federal
Speaker 2: money was defrauded, and it was one of the largest
Speaker 2: pandemic era fraud schemes anywhere in the US. The alleged
Speaker 2: perpetrators used a Minnesota based nonprofit organization called Feeding Our future,
Speaker 2: which the Minnesota Department of Education was supposed.
Speaker 3: To be overseeing.
Speaker 2: They did a very poor job of that overseeing. It
Speaker 2: said astonishing that this went on for so long on
Speaker 2: such a grand scale without it being nipped in the barge.
Speaker 3: And you looked at the details.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a particularly sophisticated program. You would have thought
Speaker 2: it would have been spotted early.
Speaker 8: Yes, I think you know. It goes to just wonder
Speaker 8: as much money slashing around as there was, especially in
Speaker 8: the week of COVID, and there's no accountability with these
Speaker 8: blooded organizations. Things that shouldn't slip through the cracks do
Speaker 8: or people look the other way, or they're hamstrung, or
Speaker 8: what other reasons are. Politically, I'm not sure this one
Speaker 8: will land as potently against Waltz as others, because it's
Speaker 8: more of an indirect indatementleadership in overall, he was overseeing
Speaker 8: the stage, but he wasn't in the nitty gritty of
Speaker 8: this particular thing. There are far more other direct indictments
Speaker 8: of him, as we just discussed the mass exodus people
Speaker 8: leaving Minnesota and his policies on various issues.
Speaker 2: Well, putting tampons in boys' restrooms, you've got the stolen
Speaker 2: valor our shoe, we've got him talking up socialism as
Speaker 2: being neighborly.
Speaker 3: The list is long.
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, as you mentioned, she is flying at the moment,
Speaker 2: getting enormously that positive press, doing so much better in
Speaker 2: the polls than Joe Biden was. But is this Wall's
Speaker 2: decision going to cause her damage because there just seems
Speaker 2: to be more and more that comes out with him,
Speaker 2: and you wonder if he was properly vetted.
Speaker 8: I do think that the vetting is an issue because
Speaker 8: of how this whole thing went down, and they were
Speaker 8: pretending to support Biden for as long as they did,
Speaker 8: and then this last minute switcher Russ. Now you've got
Speaker 8: what would happen in eighteen months condensed in ninety days.
Speaker 8: So I'm sure they knew these things, but they didn't
Speaker 8: have the time to really vet it. And these people,
Speaker 8: she herself, had never been through a competitive primary process
Speaker 8: or anything else. So it's plenty there. As you say,
Speaker 8: it's a long list, but she's got this clear strategy.
Speaker 8: You're running out the clock, getting very favorable media and
Speaker 8: new media, and that seems to be what's on the ballot.
Speaker 2: I think she's counting on a honeymoon all the way
Speaker 2: to November. Koshagata, thank you so much for your time
Speaker 2: this evening and still to come. Harry and Meghan lose
Speaker 2: another staff member, plus Elon Musk and jk Rowling accused
Speaker 2: of cyber harassment.
Speaker 3: By controversial boxer Eman Khalif.
Speaker 2: You're watching the Rita Panehy Show, joining me now is
Speaker 2: entertainment and world reporter Kinsey scho Filled. Kinsey, let's start
Speaker 2: with another member of the Sussex team quitting. Harry and
Speaker 2: Meghan have lost their chief of staff, Josh Kettler, just
Speaker 2: three months after he came on board, and just dayser
Speaker 2: to the quasi royal tour of Columbia.
Speaker 3: They've gone to Columbia.
Speaker 2: Really, Paople Magazine, who we know are very close to
Speaker 2: the couple, insis the depacha was mutual?
Speaker 3: Is that the whole story?
Speaker 11: I do not believe that this is the whole story.
Speaker 11: In fact, you know this is the same man that
Speaker 11: Harry and Meghan's team said was instrumental in the success
Speaker 11: of their Nigeria trip. So why cut ties so close
Speaker 11: to your Columbia adventure? Just a month ago you and
Speaker 11: I talked about this, Prince Harry lost Dominic Reed, the
Speaker 11: Invictus Games original CEO. He resigned within days of Prince
Speaker 11: Harry accepting the controversial Pat Tillman Award on national television.
Speaker 11: I don't think that was a coincidence, you know. I
Speaker 11: believe we're at eighteen employees gone under Harry and Meghan
Speaker 11: since twenty eighteen, and that does not count domestic health
Speaker 11: and terminated members of their security detail. So we're seeing
Speaker 11: a pattern here. It appears to be a clear sign
Speaker 11: of ineffective leadership and a toxic workplace.
Speaker 2: And we've saw that same patsion when they were in
Speaker 2: the UK, and that was really never fully addressed. Was
Speaker 2: it precisely why they lost so many stuff? What happened
Speaker 2: with those bullying allegations? This sort of bad luck seems
Speaker 2: to follow the couple.
Speaker 11: What's interesting to me, too, is to your point about
Speaker 11: People Magazine. A former Archwall employee recently told People Magazine
Speaker 11: that Megan really wanted Prince Harry to get over some
Speaker 11: of this litigation and look forward and move on. We
Speaker 11: know how ironclad those NDAs are, So it goes to
Speaker 11: your point that People magazine is getting access to people
Speaker 11: through Harry and Meghan that someone would be courageous enough
Speaker 11: to talk to them and make Meghan look good by
Speaker 11: saying Meghan wants to focus on the future and move
Speaker 11: past some of the drama and just look forward. So yeah,
Speaker 11: I think that this is just going to continue to
Speaker 11: happen and till this couple looks in the mirror and
Speaker 11: realizes perhaps they're problem.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 2: Variety magazine has revealed that Algerian boxer Imman Khalif, who
Speaker 2: spark controversy along with a Taiwanese fighter for getting Olympic
Speaker 2: gold in Paris despite having X Y chromosomes, are also
Speaker 2: known as being male. Well how's this for hootspa. He's
Speaker 2: now filed a cyber bullying lawsuit against X in France.
Speaker 2: In the criminal complaint file to French authorities, Khaliff names
Speaker 2: JK Rowling and Elon Musk and alleges acts of aggravated
Speaker 2: cyber harassment on the social media side Kinzia, JK Elon.
Speaker 3: Are they in trouble? Could they be going to prison? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean yes and no.
Speaker 11: We're seeing people's doors beaten down over I mean tweets
Speaker 11: in the UK, so anything is possible today. Quite honestly,
Speaker 11: I mean, I'm terrified. I think this is just a
Speaker 11: PR stunt. If I'm being honest with you, Elon and
Speaker 11: JK could literally buy the Olympics, so they haven't. They
Speaker 11: have so much money. They'll put up a good fight.
Speaker 11: But I think this pursuit lacks credibility.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's astonishing.
Speaker 2: And you know what, if they want to submit to
Speaker 2: a chromosome test, then I'll be right there fighting along
Speaker 2: them if they come back as XX. But we're told
Speaker 2: they've tested x Y and they did not appeal that ruling.
Speaker 2: Now let's talk about news side Axius, they found that
Speaker 2: the Kamala Harris campaign has been editing news headlines.
Speaker 3: And descriptions within Google. This is in.
Speaker 2: Search ads that make it appear like the Guardian, CBS
Speaker 2: and other major news sites are pro Kamala. The ads
Speaker 2: include links to real articles, but the headlines and supporting
Speaker 2: texts have been altered to read as they support Harris's campaign.
Speaker 2: Objective teams but Kinsie of good as side. This seems
Speaker 2: to be an enormous waste of money for the Harris team.
Speaker 2: Why would they bother manipulating headlines when the media is
Speaker 2: already cheerleading their every.
Speaker 11: Move well, because clearly they're greedy. But the wildest part
Speaker 11: about this is that it's perfectly acceptable behavior under Google's
Speaker 11: terms and conditions. I mean, it's clearly misleading the tactic,
Speaker 11: but unfortunately the tactics does not violate their policies because
Speaker 11: the fake ads are labeled as sponsored. The Guardian says
Speaker 11: that they intend to approach Google about this, that they're
Speaker 11: not comfortable with the Harris campaign manipulating their headlines in
Speaker 11: this way. But the more frequently Kamaliest team engages in
Speaker 11: dishonest behavior, the more likely it is that these inconsistencies
Speaker 11: are suspicious actions will will be noticed by people. It's
Speaker 11: going to be easier for others to catch on. So
Speaker 11: I'm hoping that this becomes a bigger story because if
Speaker 11: the Trump campaign did this, I can't imagine the hell
Speaker 11: that would ran in on them.
Speaker 2: If the Trump campaign did this, we would not hear
Speaker 2: the end of disinformation, misinformation threats to democracy. It would
Speaker 2: be a massive scandal, But I think this will be
Speaker 2: overlooked by most. Let's talk about the Backstreet Boys star
Speaker 2: Backstreet Boys A Nick Carter. He's suing the woman who
Speaker 2: accused him of being a rapist. He's seeking two point
Speaker 2: five million in compensation for defamation KINSI.
Speaker 11: You know, Rita, I'm not sure this is a great
Speaker 11: look for Carter. I had to cover a recent documentary
Speaker 11: that went into these allegations, and while it had first
Speaker 11: hand accounts from some of the alleged victims, the audience
Speaker 11: walked away not completely convinced of his guilt. You know,
Speaker 11: then people forgot. This is the Barbara Streisand effect, where
Speaker 11: you're bringing it back up again and now you've magnified it.
Speaker 11: I think pr wise, this is a risky move. But
Speaker 11: he might have looked at the Giant trial and thought
Speaker 11: I can do something similar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a very good point, but Johnny Depp
Speaker 2: did have a win there that the case against him
Speaker 2: was such a mess. But I think your advice here
Speaker 2: is very good. Indeed, these allegations haven't tainted his reputation's
Speaker 2: reputation greatly, So to go through this, I think there's
Speaker 2: a risk that he's actually going to come out of
Speaker 2: it more damaged than when he went in, even if
Speaker 2: he ends up winning. And we know this sort of
Speaker 2: court action is also very costly at kinsisco Field. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for your time this evening, and that's
Speaker 2: it from me. I'll see you tomorrow, and I for left.
Speaker 2: He's losing it at nine point thirty pm up. Next
Speaker 2: is Newsnight