WEBVTT - #2119 Managing Your Energy - Bobby Cappuccio 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:01.720 Look at it, Tam. 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:04.640 It's your project. It's it's Robert. It's Robert Capuccio, It's 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:09.080 Tiffany and Cook. It's Craig Anthony Harper, it is it 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.040 is us. It is a What day is it? It's 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.400 Wednesday or Thursday? It's Thursday, thanks Tiff. It's the fifth 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:19.640 of the third. It's a Thursday. Apparently it's twelve forty one. 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:21.560 I do know that in the PM, not the AM. 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.919 That would be weird. I just got back from a walk, 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.840 did a quick eight thousand steps between appointments and a 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:32.720 little feet a burning Hi, Tiff, how. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:33.840 Are you very good? 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:35.240 Thank you? Harps. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:37.839 You don't do any regular and not that you need to, 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.320 because you're very active, but you don't really You're not 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.240 really a take notice of your steps so much kind 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:44.120 of person, are you? 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:45.720 Oh yeah, a little bit, A little bit. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.360 I walked a door too well. 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.320 You'd probably crank out ten or twelve without really thinking 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.280 about it too much when you watch your kind of 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:54.720 do you know? 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.640 I reckon My average now sits around for thirteen or 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.440 fourteen thousand. I used to focus on it a bit 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.120 more and it was over fifteen. 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:05.319 Wow. 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.720 Yeah, that's a few so what do you and then 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:10.360 you figure out your stride length? 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:11.080 What do you reckon? 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.960 So fifteen k's for fifteen thousand steps would be somewhere 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:19.440 around ten or eleven k's for you. I'm thinking, oh, 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:20.000 she's looking. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.039 I'm going to have a look at my gam and see. 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:23.600 I have a look at your stride length and that'll 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:24.760 give you your total distance. 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:31.120 Bobby, Hi, Bobby, it was going on, come in with 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:31.839 a bit more energy. 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:33.520 I'm going to do it again because you have fucking 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.160 energy today before the show and they're terrible. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:40.839 I'm going to go again. Hey Bobby, Hi, Hey Craig, 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:46.520 Oh god fucking hell, can you take it? Can you 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:48.640 take something? Can you have a beer or something? Please? 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:53.040 We started to get in ten minutes, So next time, 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.200 But yeah, you do that. How are you? What's going 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:55.840 on over there? 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.760 Well, I'm just mitigating all these things eighty because it 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.240 was a it was a lot of big like build 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.560 up getting onto the show today, a lot of like 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.520 stop and go. It's like you ever see Jurassic Park 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.280 where it's like, you know, he's about to get eaten 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.079 by the tears. The tear Rex is just taunting them, 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:16.760 like flipping the car over. It's like that is thank you? 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.520 Right? So yeah, glass of wine? Brilliant. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.880 So somebody just handed you a glass of wine and 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.680 a big well not a big arm, but an arm 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:28.120 come in front of the camera. 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.079 That is how powerful you all? You said, I got 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.880 a wine, But that was impressive, wasn't it? 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:38.200 Fucking wow? You really manifested that. Wow. Wow, look at 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:39.080 what I like? 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:44.239 Are you like into like quantum physics and ship well 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.120 clear and reality? 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.079 Just now to get me that glass of wine. We 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:57.040 don't need you drinking, We don't need you. Another all 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:58.720 comes in through the screen. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:03.720 Fuck yeah, imagine if that's imagine if that same arm 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:07.040 handed Tiff, Now, that would make me fucking David Copperfield 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:08.359 or what's that other dude's name? 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:14.040 What's that serious looking a Potter? No, Harry Potter, You're 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:14.560 an idiot. 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.120 And just we did mention it this morning on another show. 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.639 But what do you think of TIFF's new ranger? 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.360 Look? I love it. I love it. I think it 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:29.880 really suits straight up? How long does that take to derangefi? Tiff? 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:31.680 I don't know, mate, I don't know. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.160 I mean, you've had it done before, not this color. 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:37.560 I didn't even expect this color this time? 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:39.120 What do you know who? 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.800 You remind me of that little girl that sang at 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.880 the Olympics that got holed up You know at the 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.680 two thousand Olympics, that little girl that sang she got 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:50.320 holed up on. 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:51.160 Why what do you. 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:55.720 Mean you didn't pay You didn't watch the opening ceremony. 0:03:55.800 --> 0:04:01.160 It was only twenty six years ago. You were sixteen. 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:03.840 That's all right, I cannot recall. 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:05.120 I don't know. Do you know what? 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.520 Right now there's a whole bunch of oldies yelling at 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.160 the screen the name of that that young well she's 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.600 a woman, well and truly a woman now, But anyway, 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:15.640 you've got the same kind of vibe. 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.640 Have a look, Tiff, Tiff, Bobby, what are you drinking? 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:20.120 Is that? 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.200 What is that? Red wine or charez? 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:22.720 What is that? 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.640 I think this might be a petite sah. I'm looking 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:28.880 at it. 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.600 The only thing we have is a pin and noir 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:35.800 and a petite so ah, this looks This doesn't look 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.359 late enough for cola to be like a pin, and 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:39.640 so I think it's drink. 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:42.599 That's a very big all right. 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.360 Let's when I'm not drinking, I'm just holding it. 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.360 You find is it Niki Webster. 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:53.960 Yes, Nicky Webster, Niki Webster. Yeah, she was a sweet 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.800 she was as sweetie and saying like a. 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.400 So I was going to say something inappropriate, so I'll 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.840 just say she changed her Yeah. 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:07.440 Angel, thank you Bobby much better. So I want to 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:08.599 talk to you about something today. 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:10.520 I want to talk to you both about something today, 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.799 which is it's very relevant for me over the last 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:18.159 few months and very relevant well probably my whole life, 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.839 but specifically because I've been a bit cook lately, but 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:24.200 also a lot of people I talk to, and that 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:25.680 is energy management. 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:30.279 That is how you and how our audience. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.960 And so if you've got any advice or thoughts or 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.800 ideas or experiences that are relevant, but you know, because 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.359 I've been I have a thing everyone called pernicious anemia, 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:43.520 which means I don't really absorb vitamin B twelve, so 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.400 I've got to put B twelve injections into my ass 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:47.560 on a weekly basis. 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.200 I forget and then six weeks later, I go fucking hell, 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.640 I feel like shit. 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:58.560 And then then my subconscious goes, or my prefrontal cortex 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.160 more accurately, goes, well, why don't you do that. 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.240 Thing you meant to do and then so for me, 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:04.200 always trying. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.960 To manage my physical, mental, emotional kind of energy and 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.279 lately has been a bit hard, but not only kind 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:16.159 of on a big scale, kind of globally in my life, 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:21.919 but more specifically through the day. I seem to be 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.599 better between so it's twelve forty seven between when I 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.120 wake up and start doing shit, which is six ish 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.880 to about two or three, I seem to be somewhere 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.680 near my optimal I think we've asked you this before, TIF, 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:40.000 but all around, and say, cognitive tasks, physical tasks, problem solving, 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:45.840 which is cognitive emotional energy management, all round, Like when 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:47.120 are you the best in the day? 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:49.599 Early early. 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.440 Or probably morning, maybe even mid to late morning is 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.479 good for cognitive but you know what, and this, and 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.760 I don't do this because it's terrible for my sleep. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.880 But if I sit down at the computer again after dinner, 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.159 I can get very focused for a very long time 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.600 into the evening. But that ruins my sleep, so I 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.000 don't do it, which is annoying. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.280 Yeah, I have a second wind quite often. I'm not 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:15.360 talking about flatulence, but later in the day although although 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:19.480 I mean same, same, but later in the day, hang 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:23.640 on excuse me, but later in the day quite often, 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.200 when I should be falling into a camera at seven 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:30.840 point thirty after food, my brain's like, hey, why don't 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:35.280 we do this? And I just start everything sharpens up. 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.960 It's like I just woke up. It's like my IQ 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:42.360 goes up. Periodically, my attention, my energy go and I 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.440 do not know why, but so I kind of, you 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.960 know when I've got it. Like last week, at about 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.640 ten o'clock at night, I record a solo podcast, which 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:55.240 I never ever do because I was fucking wired. I 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.120 was so excited and I felt good and I had 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:58.680 an idea. I went, fuck it, I'm just going to 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.280 record something at you, Bobby. Is it. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:07.160 Haphazard or is it kind of more predictable with you your energy? 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:12.520 Yeah, my natural like peak levels of focus are early 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.840 in the morning, through the morning until like ten or 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.240 eleven o'clock, and in the evening about with a lull 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.120 in the afternoon, mostly around like two to five PM. 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.640 So if I could do something that's just a repetitive 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:27.720 task that doesn't require a ton of creativity in those hours, 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:33.080 ideally not doing a seminar, although you know sometimes that 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:33.719 pops up. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:35.120 I'm at my best. 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.520 What's is the top of the list for both of you? 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.120 Like the variable that makes the biggest difference one way 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:46.080 or the other? Is the biggest factor sleep for both 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:47.680 of you? Or is it something else? 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:48.960 Oh? 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:53.440 Yeah, yeah, I too sleeps massive. I had a brilliant 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.079 night's sleep last night, and I'm just on fire today. 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:56.959 I'm so excited. 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.600 It's so fucking funny, isn't it. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:03.600 I hate Bobby? How many wheeze do you have a night? 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.560 I mean it's just you, like no one's listing, But 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.920 how many wheeze do you have a night? And by 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.560 the way, how big is your prostate? Is it like 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.239 a basketball, softball, a baseball? 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.640 About eleven eleven to twelve weeks a night and it's 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:20.240 about the size of a water melon. 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:24.440 Now, so people think. 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.920 It's a tumor. It's like, no, it's just a large prostate. Yeah, 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:29.520 bad life decisions. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:33.040 So do you still run that that hose that you 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:34.400 had with those clans from. 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.560 Your cock to that bucket? Or have you upgraded in 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.080 some way? 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.640 I have always wandered, like, what would life be like 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.360 if I could just wear like a nappy? 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:49.200 Ah? Could that improve my sleep patterns? 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.600 I feel like we getting into I feel like we've 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.960 entered into insensitive territory led by me. I apologize everyone. 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.360 I would tell you we'll edit that out, but we 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:01.000 fucking won't. 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:01.840 You know we won't. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.320 But anyway, so just a general I think for everyone's 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:09.520 sleep is probably the biggest variable after that. Okay, so 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.280 I'm going to say a few in terms of energy, 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.440 and of course it's different for different people. So I'm 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:20.280 thinking about I'm thinking about the weather, which people don't 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:24.480 talk about when it's real hot. I struggle. I'm way 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:29.240 better in cooler environments. Obviously food makes a big difference. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:33.720 Obviously stress or lack thereof, can make a big difference 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:41.520 on everything, but ultimately energy management, and then I think, also, 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:46.080 you know, just the fundamentals like workload, Like what is 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:47.840 number two on the list for both of you. 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.359 And we're going to get towards. 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.680 Talking about some solutions or potential solutions everyone. 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:55.600 But Bobby, let's go with you. So after sleep, what's 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:56.439 the biggest factor? 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:02.160 Oh, movement, movement is mass It changes my thought patterns, 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:06.560 It elevates my energy, increases my creativity, lowers my stress. 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:10.800 But it's like what I do join that movement? You know, 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.439 if I listen to something like instrumental, like a nice 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:21.360 inspiring soundtrack, definitely game changer. So if I can restructure 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:25.080 my environment to incorporate as much movement as possible, I'm 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.440 just a different human being, so can. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.360 Be more specific. So like what like I do? 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.520 Like the person I am now, I'm like a different 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:35.240 version of. 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:39.719 That fucking ltif he's hard work, he's drinking booze, he's 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:40.679 being problematic. 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:45.920 Before the show, he was just bitching, fucking help. Look, 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.040 if you don't want to do the show anymore, just 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.439 let us know. You don't have to be subliminal, just go. 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.880 I fucking hate you both. I don't want to do 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.760 the show, you know you Just let us know we're. 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.760 Okay, all right, I'm going to. 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:06.640 Go fuck all right, Well, I'll try and contribute something logical. 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:11.160 When I do strength training for about an hour a day, everyone, 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.320 it does all the good things for me. If I 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:18.160 walk ten thousand steps plus a day, it does all 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.480 the good things for me. And it also, which is 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:25.840 very unexpected for me, when I started just consciously walking, 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:29.400 because I was just randomly where I would just walk 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.320 whatever I walked on the day. Some days it would 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:32.920 be a lot. Some days it would be fuck all. 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:34.920 More days it would be fuck all. But since I 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.480 introduced like going out just before this show and doing 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:42.800 a quick eight thousand, I actually feel happier, which is 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:47.640 a weird correlation for me anyway, but it helps me emotionally, 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.960 which helps me regulate a lot of other things. TIF 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:54.120 can you offer anything more constructive than Bobby did? Because 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:55.400 fucking hell? 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:56.560 Oh, sure as hell can. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:58.920 I reckon, We're coming back to you, Bobby, so I'm 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:00.560 giving you a se can chance. 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:05.920 Bobby, I reckon food and movement, food and exercise head 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.560 to head with me, I'll get angry. So I got 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.160 to eat, but if I don't move. I was talking 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.280 about this to someone the other day that it's obvious 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.520 when you look at your priorities or your values, doesn't 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:22.840 matter how important things are in my life, exercise always 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.600 comes first. Exercise or never takes a back seat. It's 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.120 very rare that I go, you know what, I actually 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.880 can't make the gym today. Yes, there has to be 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:33.640 a reason why that cannot be fit in. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:41.320 So yeah, I think Also, actually I'll shut up because 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:42.560 I'm getting ahead of myself. 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:43.600 Bobby, do you. 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.640 Really want to tell us what the movement, what kind 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.080 of movement, and how that impacts you and what you do. 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.600 Well, yes, it's the time I expanded in the gym. 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:56.480 But for me, if I would prefer in a perfect 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.760 world to hit the gym at five am, ever in warning, 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.800 because when I'm in the gym and i'm training hard, 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.079 one you get it out of the way. Two it's 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.720 like I can listen to a podcast. I can feed 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:13.440 my mind with high quality information unless it's like me 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:14.960 being interviewed on the podcast. 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:18.480 You know how that goes. But unless it's the E 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.960 Project carry on. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:26.280 So yeah, I feel so much more ready for the day. 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:29.720 And I think it's it's that combination of the exercise 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:33.240 and the input. I can't listen to anything too scientific 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:38.360 while i'm moving, but something conceptual, you know, by the time, 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.680 by the time eight o'clock in the morning hits, I 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.280 have so many ideas in my head. The problem with 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:48.240 me physiologically is if I do that by about ten 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.200 to eleven o'clock in the morning, I am completely knackered. 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:55.320 So that is too early in the day for me 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.280 to get a workout in a hard workout in so 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.200 I have to do a light workout in the morning, 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.640 some type of ritual like it just involving like a walk, 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:08.560 just just some some light movement, and then later on 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:13.080 in the day if I train, that's perfect. Yeah, but 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:17.920 it's those are just bookends. It's about intermittent movement. It's 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:24.080 about intermittent movement where I'm not switching from one test 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:27.640 to another. And I'm talking about cognitive flexibility. I'm not 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:32.080 talking about multitasking so much where my brain is constantly on. 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.760 Like I if I can just take a walk up the. 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.080 Street or from one meeting to another, or to the 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.840 car and just try to not think about anything, not 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.880 send the next email, not send the next text, That's 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:48.600 when I make most of my mistakes when I do 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.200 that anyway, So I'm really not saving time. I'm pretty 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:56.040 much wasting it. I'm in a completely different mental state. 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.280 So it's bookending movement ritual in the morning, more tents 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.560 to work out later on the day, and intermittent movement 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.840 as much as I can possibly fit in so I 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.880 can get my ten to fifteen thousand steps a month. 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.040 Can I ask you and TIF you might have a 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.240 thought about this, because maybe you have one foot in 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.640 this pool as well. But Bobby, you've spoken many times 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.960 about anxiety and all of those things, and mental health 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.240 and obsession and the myriad of things that we talk 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:27.920 about on this show. 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:28.800 I feel like. 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:34.880 That obviously there's a correlation between stress, anxiety, overthinking, and 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.000 our subsequent energy that's left for the day. So I'm 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.480 kind of talking about investing a lot of energy in 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:45.120 shit that we really can't change, which is often what 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.280 anxiety is, or that kind. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.280 Of stress is. Do you ever think it, think. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:54.120 Of it in those terms of like I'm exhausted and 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.960 I haven't fucking done anything, but I've thought everything. 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.400 Yeah, that's like Thursday for me. 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:10.720 I get it, especially like the like the more lack 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:16.600 of predictability in my environment, the more I find myself 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.280 engaging in things that caused me a lot of worry. 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.399 They put me in a high state of arousal. But 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.919 there's literally nothing I can do about it, not on 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.720 a global scale, maybe on like a micro scale, but yeah, 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:33.960 that's very hard for me to avoid. 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:38.679 And that is where like today, you. 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.760 Know, we're we're looking to move again, Like are where 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.359 we are is not a very it's not an inspiring neighborhood. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:52.080 Let's put it that way and looking for where we're 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.760 going to move to. It's very important for me to 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.159 be in a building that has so many amenities, so 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.480 many nooks, so many says that were just like carved 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:06.080 out because I could stay home and I could structure 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.280 my environment in a way where those triggers are not present. 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.160 So I was like, oh, I got to discipline myself 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:16.600 to not get to get off social media and get focused. 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.960 I don't have to discipline myself to do shit because 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.720 the environment leads me to engage in things that are 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:26.800 productive and that usually only takes discipline for me for 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.919 about I don't know if you find this for about 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:33.240 ten minutes, Like I got to really discipline myself for 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.960 the first ten minutes to get engaged in something, but 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:42.240 anywhere from seven to fifteen minutes, like the activity pulls 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.720 me into it that level of engage, it almost takes 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:47.240 discipline to pull me away from it. 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:51.159 If that makes sense? Yes, yes, do you think? And 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:52.119 then I'm coming to YouTube. 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.280 Do you think, Bobby, that you know if you spent 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.399 let's say you're working in an environment with people that 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:03.160 you like, it's not overwhelmingly phenomenal, but you certainly don't 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.159 hate going to work, so you're working with people that 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.119 you like. The job's pretty good. It's a seven, right, 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.520 It's not a ten, but it's a seven. A year 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:15.119 of that versus a year of you working essentially in 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:18.720 isolation from home, what do you think is going to 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:19.800 be a better outcome for you. 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:22.760 For what appeals more to you. 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.520 That's really hard because it depends on the nature of 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.480 the work that I'm doing and who I'm doing it with. 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:33.040 I know, but the thing is, for me, one thing 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.800 feeds another. If I have the right home environment right, 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.320 which is what I'm talking about, and I can literally 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:46.480 go somewhere that is esthetically inspiring or people are kind 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.040 of like weite noise, like a really cool coffee shop, 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:53.800 and just sit there by myself and focus. Yeah, that 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.280 energizes me for the days where I get to get 0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:59.520 out on the road and be around people, or that 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:00.880 I am I getting out on the road. 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.399 I'm not getting on planes much anymore. It's all local. 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.280 But if I'm going to a site to give a presentation, 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.680 I have so much more energy to give, and then 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:13.280 I need to retreat back to that isolation and work 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:16.760 at home and gather myself so it's almost like a 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:21.520 virtuous cycle for me. But if the environment's wrong or 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.240 the nature of the work is wrong, or the people 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:25.200 are wrong. 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:28.159 Yeah, that's that's quite difficult. I don't think I'm unique 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:28.800 in that area. 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.159 Not everybody likes to be on the road, not everybody 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.280 likes to work out of coffee shops. But I think 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:36.280 the nature of what you're doing, how closely it's tied 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:39.600 to personal meaning? And who are the people you're working with, 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:44.040 and do they enliven you or are they people that 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:47.560 kind of like drag you down and deplete you know mentally. 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:50.720 I think there's a guy's a guy comes to the 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:51.680 cafe every morning. 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:54.240 His time's Alex. Let's give a shout out to Alex. Alex. 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.920 Essentially, I'm not very good at this because I might 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:00.760 fuck up the actual wording. But he he plays the 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:03.960 stock market or he's like, it's not it's not like casual. 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.800 This is his job, right, So he's all and he 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:11.720 he lives above the cafe, and he's got a well 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:13.639