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Speaker 1: Look at it, Tam.

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Speaker 2: It's your project. It's it's Robert. It's Robert Capuccio, It's

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Speaker 2: Tiffany and Cook. It's Craig Anthony Harper, it is it

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Speaker 2: is us. It is a What day is it? It's

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Speaker 2: Wednesday or Thursday? It's Thursday, thanks Tiff. It's the fifth

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Speaker 2: of the third. It's a Thursday. Apparently it's twelve forty one.

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Speaker 2: I do know that in the PM, not the AM.

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Speaker 2: That would be weird. I just got back from a walk,

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Speaker 2: did a quick eight thousand steps between appointments and a

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Speaker 2: little feet a burning Hi, Tiff, how.

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Speaker 1: Are you very good?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Harps.

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Speaker 2: You don't do any regular and not that you need to,

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Speaker 2: because you're very active, but you don't really You're not

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Speaker 2: really a take notice of your steps so much kind

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Speaker 2: of person, are you?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a little bit, A little bit.

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Speaker 1: I walked a door too well.

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Speaker 2: You'd probably crank out ten or twelve without really thinking

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Speaker 2: about it too much when you watch your kind of

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Speaker 2: do you know?

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Speaker 4: I reckon My average now sits around for thirteen or

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Speaker 4: fourteen thousand. I used to focus on it a bit

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Speaker 4: more and it was over fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a few so what do you and then

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Speaker 2: you figure out your stride length?

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Speaker 1: What do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: So fifteen k's for fifteen thousand steps would be somewhere

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Speaker 2: around ten or eleven k's for you. I'm thinking, oh,

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Speaker 2: she's looking.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to have a look at my gam and see.

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Speaker 2: I have a look at your stride length and that'll

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Speaker 2: give you your total distance.

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Speaker 1: Bobby, Hi, Bobby, it was going on, come in with

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Speaker 1: a bit more energy.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do it again because you have fucking

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Speaker 2: energy today before the show and they're terrible.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go again. Hey Bobby, Hi, Hey Craig,

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Speaker 1: Oh god fucking hell, can you take it? Can you

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Speaker 1: take something? Can you have a beer or something? Please?

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Speaker 1: We started to get in ten minutes, So next time,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you do that. How are you? What's going

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm just mitigating all these things eighty because it

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Speaker 5: was a it was a lot of big like build

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Speaker 5: up getting onto the show today, a lot of like

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Speaker 5: stop and go. It's like you ever see Jurassic Park

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Speaker 5: where it's like, you know, he's about to get eaten

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Speaker 5: by the tears. The tear Rex is just taunting them,

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Speaker 5: like flipping the car over. It's like that is thank you?

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Speaker 1: Right? So yeah, glass of wine? Brilliant.

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Speaker 2: So somebody just handed you a glass of wine and

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Speaker 2: a big well not a big arm, but an arm

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Speaker 5: That is how powerful you all? You said, I got

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Speaker 5: a wine, But that was impressive, wasn't it?

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Speaker 1: Fucking wow? You really manifested that. Wow. Wow, look at

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Speaker 1: what I like?

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Speaker 5: Are you like into like quantum physics and ship well

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Speaker 5: clear and reality?

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Speaker 1: Just now to get me that glass of wine. We

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Speaker 1: don't need you drinking, We don't need you. Another all

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Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, imagine if that's imagine if that same arm

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Speaker 2: handed Tiff, Now, that would make me fucking David Copperfield

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Speaker 2: or what's that other dude's name?

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Speaker 1: What's that serious looking a Potter? No, Harry Potter, You're

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Speaker 1: an idiot.

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Speaker 2: And just we did mention it this morning on another show.

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Speaker 2: But what do you think of TIFF's new ranger?

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Speaker 1: Look? I love it. I love it. I think it

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Speaker 1: really suits straight up? How long does that take to derangefi? Tiff?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, mate, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've had it done before, not this color.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even expect this color this time?

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Speaker 1: What do you know who?

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Speaker 2: You remind me of that little girl that sang at

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Speaker 2: the Olympics that got holed up You know at the

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Speaker 2: two thousand Olympics, that little girl that sang she got

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Speaker 2: holed up on.

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Speaker 1: Why what do you.

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Speaker 2: Mean you didn't pay You didn't watch the opening ceremony.

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Speaker 2: It was only twenty six years ago. You were sixteen.

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Speaker 3: That's all right, I cannot recall.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you know what?

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Speaker 2: Right now there's a whole bunch of oldies yelling at

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Speaker 2: the screen the name of that that young well she's

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Speaker 2: a woman, well and truly a woman now, But anyway,

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Speaker 2: you've got the same kind of vibe.

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Speaker 1: Have a look, Tiff, Tiff, Bobby, what are you drinking?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 1: What is that? Red wine or charez?

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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Speaker 1: I think this might be a petite sah. I'm looking

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Speaker 5: The only thing we have is a pin and noir

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Speaker 5: late enough for cola to be like a pin, and

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Speaker 1: That's a very big all right.

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Speaker 5: Let's when I'm not drinking, I'm just holding it.

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Speaker 3: You find is it Niki Webster.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Nicky Webster, Niki Webster. Yeah, she was a sweet

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Speaker 1: she was as sweetie and saying like a.

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Speaker 1: Angel, thank you Bobby much better. So I want to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about something today.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk to you both about something today,

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Speaker 2: which is it's very relevant for me over the last

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Speaker 2: few months and very relevant well probably my whole life,

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Speaker 2: but specifically because I've been a bit cook lately, but

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Speaker 2: is energy management.

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Speaker 1: That is how you and how our audience.

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Speaker 2: And so if you've got any advice or thoughts or

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Speaker 2: ideas or experiences that are relevant, but you know, because

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Speaker 2: I've been I have a thing everyone called pernicious anemia,

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Speaker 2: which means I don't really absorb vitamin B twelve, so

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Speaker 2: I've got to put B twelve injections into my ass

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Speaker 2: on a weekly basis.

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Speaker 1: I forget and then six weeks later, I go fucking hell,

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Speaker 2: And then then my subconscious goes, or my prefrontal cortex

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Speaker 2: more accurately, goes, well, why don't you do that.

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Speaker 1: Thing you meant to do and then so for me,

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Speaker 2: To manage my physical, mental, emotional kind of energy and

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Speaker 2: lately has been a bit hard, but not only kind

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Speaker 2: near my optimal I think we've asked you this before, TIF,

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Speaker 3: Early early.

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Speaker 4: Or probably morning, maybe even mid to late morning is

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Speaker 4: I don't do this because it's terrible for my sleep.

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Speaker 4: But if I sit down at the computer again after dinner,

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Speaker 4: I can get very focused for a very long time

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a second wind quite often. I'm not

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Speaker 2: on excuse me, but later in the day quite often,

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Speaker 2: we do this? And I just start everything sharpens up.

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Speaker 2: It's like I just woke up. It's like my IQ

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Speaker 2: goes up. Periodically, my attention, my energy go and I

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Speaker 2: ten o'clock at night, I record a solo podcast, which

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Speaker 2: I never ever do because I was fucking wired. I

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Speaker 2: record something at you, Bobby. Is it.

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Speaker 1: Haphazard or is it kind of more predictable with you your energy?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my natural like peak levels of focus are early

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Speaker 5: in the afternoon, mostly around like two to five PM.

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Speaker 5: So if I could do something that's just a repetitive

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Speaker 1: I'm at my best.

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Speaker 2: What's is the top of the list for both of you?

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Speaker 2: Like the variable that makes the biggest difference one way

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: It's so fucking funny, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: I hate Bobby? How many wheeze do you have a night?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's just you, like no one's listing, But

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Speaker 2: the way, how big is your prostate? Is it like

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Speaker 5: About eleven eleven to twelve weeks a night and it's

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Speaker 5: about the size of a water melon.

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Speaker 1: Now, so people think.

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Speaker 5: It's a tumor. It's like, no, it's just a large prostate. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: bad life decisions.

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Speaker 2: So do you still run that that hose that you

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Speaker 1: Your cock to that bucket? Or have you upgraded in

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Speaker 1: some way?

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Speaker 5: I have always wandered, like, what would life be like

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Speaker 5: if I could just wear like a nappy?

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Speaker 1: Ah? Could that improve my sleep patterns?

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Speaker 2: I feel like we getting into I feel like we've

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Speaker 2: entered into insensitive territory led by me. I apologize everyone.

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Speaker 2: I would tell you we'll edit that out, but we

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Speaker 2: fucking won't.

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Speaker 1: You know we won't.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, so just a general I think for everyone's

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Speaker 2: sleep is probably the biggest variable after that. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say a few in terms of energy,

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Speaker 2: and of course it's different for different people. So I'm

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Speaker 2: thinking about I'm thinking about the weather, which people don't

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Speaker 2: talk about when it's real hot. I struggle. I'm way

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Speaker 2: better in cooler environments. Obviously food makes a big difference.

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Speaker 2: Obviously stress or lack thereof, can make a big difference

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Speaker 2: on everything, but ultimately energy management, and then I think, also,

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Speaker 2: you know, just the fundamentals like workload, Like what is

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Speaker 2: number two on the list for both of you.

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Speaker 1: And we're going to get towards.

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Speaker 2: Talking about some solutions or potential solutions everyone.

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Speaker 1: But Bobby, let's go with you. So after sleep, what's

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Speaker 1: the biggest factor?

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Speaker 5: Oh, movement, movement is mass It changes my thought patterns,

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Speaker 5: It elevates my energy, increases my creativity, lowers my stress.

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Speaker 5: But it's like what I do join that movement? You know,

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Speaker 1: Before the show, he was just bitching, fucking help. Look,

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Speaker 3: Oh, sure as hell can.

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Speaker 2: Do you think, Bobby, that you know if you spent

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Speaker 5: Not everybody likes to be on the road, not everybody

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Speaker 2: for the day and I used to literally ask myself

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Speaker 2: this question, not out loud, but now I just do

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Speaker 2: it automatically. But the question is in terms of what

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Speaker 2: I want to do be, create and change today, what's

446
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Speaker 2: the best use of my energy and time?

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Speaker 1: Like, so I look at all the shit I've got

448
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Speaker 1: to do, I go, Okay, what really matters? What kind

449
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Speaker 1: of matters? And what can wait?

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Speaker 2: You know, obviously a podcast can't wait because it's scheduled

451
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Speaker 2: in but I might have to get back to that guy.

452
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Speaker 1: Well, if I get back to him tomorrow, that's all right,

453
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Speaker 1: but I'll put it on my list for today. But

454
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Speaker 1: if I don't, that's okay.

455
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Speaker 2: And just that kind of awareness around optimizing and not

456
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Speaker 2: wasting whether it is time or energy or resources or skills.

457
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Speaker 2: But that kind of put me into a more strategic

458
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Speaker 2: kind of place cognitively but also emotionally, in a place

459
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Speaker 2: where I wasn't just wasting, you know, like i'd fucking

460
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Speaker 2: you know, overthink things I'd like when I used to

461
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Speaker 2: have multiple businesses, not surprisingly, but lots of stuff my

462
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Speaker 2: mind never fucking shut down and trying to get my

463
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Speaker 2: mind to.

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Speaker 1: Be quiet or still or to you know. And it

465
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Speaker 1: wasn't just that I was busy, is just that I.

466
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Speaker 2: Wasn't good at like my environment, the situation didn't lend

467
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Speaker 2: itself to calm. But also in the middle of all

468
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Speaker 2: of that, I was fucking chaotic, in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the chaos. So it's a real skill and it's a

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Speaker 2: real exercise in self awareness to actually be able to

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Speaker 2: see the space between what I am doing day to

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Speaker 2: day on an external level, and then how that is

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Speaker 2: impacting me day to day on an internal level. The

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Speaker 2: end spoken and authorized by Greig Kapa, Bobby and Tiff

475
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Speaker 2: are just sitting there not in no.

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Speaker 5: I think that what you said is just critically important

477
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Speaker 5: because it's so many people today, because everyone's got this platform.

478
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Speaker 5: They're all telling you about how you should work and

479
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Speaker 5: how you should organize your time. What time you need

480
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Speaker 5: to get up in the morning and just do fifteen

481
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Speaker 5: minutes of this, fifteen minutes journaling, fifteen minutes of a

482
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Speaker 5: cold plunge, you know, do forty five minutes of a workout.

483
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Speaker 5: Just do you know, fifteen minutes of journaling. By the

484
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Speaker 5: time you're done, I got to get up at like

485
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Speaker 5: four o'clock in the morning. I'm not going to bed

486
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Speaker 5: until two o'clock in the morning because of all these

487
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Speaker 5: fifteen minute things. Oh but I'm not sure you get

488
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Speaker 5: eight out of hours asleep, and it's like a fuck off.

489
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Speaker 5: I think you got to really understand who you are

490
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Speaker 5: and how you optimally function. And then there's the parts

491
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Speaker 5: of your life and.

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Speaker 1: Your work that are structured for you. If you're in.

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Speaker 5: Meetings all day, you kind of got to show up

494
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Speaker 5: to those you know, you've got clients, you kind of

495
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Speaker 5: have to be there. So for me, that helps me

496
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Speaker 5: get organized. Like if I have meetings in the day, okay,

497
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Speaker 5: well that's pre structured time, and then.

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Speaker 1: I have my rituals that you got to be ferocious about.

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Speaker 1: So you got a walk of time in the morning.

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Speaker 5: But for me, if I didn't have meetings all day

501
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Speaker 5: to go, okay, well what am I going to do

502
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Speaker 5: from ten o'clock to eleven o'clock? And then what's my Actually,

503
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Speaker 5: my brain creatively doesn't work like that. What you just

504
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Speaker 5: said makes a lot of sense. I've got twelve things

505
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Speaker 5: on my to do list, which ten of these can

506
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Speaker 5: I not focus on right now? What are the top

507
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Speaker 5: two for today that have the highest level of consequences

508
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Speaker 5: if they're not done, and you know, the highest level

509
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Speaker 5: of positive impact if they are done. Now added these two,

510
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Speaker 5: what is the best use of my time right now?

511
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Speaker 5: Like right now, what do I need to be working on?

512
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Speaker 5: And obviously, if I'm in my time where my cognitive

513
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Speaker 5: functions not the all between two and five in the afternoon,

514
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Speaker 5: that might change that answer. But I think from me

515
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Speaker 5: going okay, right now, here's the things I need to

516
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Speaker 5: do before I select priorities, let me identify.

517
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Speaker 1: Posteriorities, what I won't do with my time right now.

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Speaker 5: What's left over, what's most critical, and then at once

519
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Speaker 5: that's done.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me reassess.

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Speaker 5: If I had every minute of my day blocked out

522
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Speaker 5: in these fifteen minute blocks, I would be so not productive,

523
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Speaker 5: especially on the creative aspects of my work.

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Speaker 1: So I love what you said there. It really lands

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Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about, like we've spoken about this many times,

527
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Speaker 2: the idea of you know, obviously with the U project,

528
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Speaker 2: my intention behind was that behind that was that, you know,

529
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Speaker 2: the biggest project I'll have in my life or biggest

530
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Speaker 2: management project is me, my mind, my motions, my choice's,

531
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Speaker 2: behavior's outcomes, et cetera. And I used to with I

532
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Speaker 2: didn't do it initially, but then probably two or three

533
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Speaker 2: years into my personal training career, with nearly all of

534
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Speaker 2: my clients, we worked in twenty eight day blocks, so

535
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Speaker 2: we would every four weeks we would do an assessment,

536
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Speaker 2: and they weren't the same assessments. It was an assessment

537
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Speaker 2: relevant to the individual right goals, needs, physiology issues.

538
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Speaker 1: All of that stuff. But what we would do is

539
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Speaker 1: we would train.

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Speaker 2: We would go through all the stuff and then every

541
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Speaker 2: twenty eight days we would reset, re evaluate, talk, try

542
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Speaker 2: and get some awareness, hit the pause button and go, Okay,

543
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Speaker 2: this is what we've done for twenty eight days. Is

544
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Speaker 2: what we've achieved or not achieved. Let's change one or

545
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: two variables. Then we talk about the variables, right, and

546
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Speaker 2: there might be one food thing, one supplement thing, one

547
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Speaker 2: exercise thing, one lifestyle thing, whatever. I think, you know,

548
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Speaker 2: because people love structure and process, and I think one

549
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Speaker 2: of the things sometimes with this show and lots of shows,

550
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Speaker 2: is you get all of this data and all of

551
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Speaker 2: this information, all of these ideas, and you're like, yeah,

552
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: but where the fuck do I start?

553
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Speaker 1: Where the fuck do I start? And I was talking

554
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Speaker 1: with the Crab last night at the gym. The Crab

555
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Speaker 1: is my training partner, and.

556
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Speaker 2: He said to me, I've like my heart rate, my

557
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Speaker 2: resting heart rate, which is usually in the eighties. He said,

558
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Speaker 2: it's come down. It's constantly in the sixties now, like

559
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Speaker 2: sixty five sixty three. And he goes, and my blood

560
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: pressure is low, and I go. The problem with the Crab, though,

561
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Speaker 2: is he tries fourteen new things every week. Right, So

562
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Speaker 2: we don't know what's working. He's always adding supplements. And

563
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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about drugs. I'm literally talking about just

564
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Speaker 2: all of the crappy eyes online, which you don't know

565
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Speaker 2: if it works or it doesn't work.

566
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Speaker 1: But he's always But.

567
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Speaker 2: The idea, my idea is, you know, when we try

568
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Speaker 2: to figure out how we work, and we go all right, well,

569
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Speaker 2: his apart from my day to day, my to do list,

570
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Speaker 2: But over the next four weeks, why don't I try

571
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Speaker 2: this with my sleep or whatever, or why don't I

572
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Speaker 2: try this with my food and make one or two

573
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Speaker 2: changes that you are absolutely going to know this is working,

574
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Speaker 2: this is not working, This is a good.

575
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Speaker 1: Idea or bad idea, and then you can build on that.

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Speaker 2: Because when we talk about how do I be more

577
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Speaker 2: efficient with my energy, how do I manage myself better,

578
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Speaker 2: how do I optimize my genetics, it's such a massive

579
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Speaker 2: process and project. The very few of us are going

580
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Speaker 2: to wake up in five years and go, fuck, I'm

581
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: incredibly improved and better and magically somehow. But I think

582
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Speaker 2: that idea of going well, I'm constantly tired. I'm a

583
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Speaker 2: bit of an overthinker. I really struggle with anxiety. Here's

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Speaker 2: maybe one thing that I will do absolutely every day

585
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Speaker 2: for twenty eight days to maybe help find some calm

586
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: because or to find some joy, or to you know,

587
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Speaker 2: whatever it is. I just think that that idea of

588
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Speaker 2: actually being a little bit scientific, even if you're not

589
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Speaker 2: a scientist. You don't need to be sciencey, but just go,

590
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Speaker 2: what's one thing that I can change? Because your body

591
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: will tell you. Your nervous system will tell you, your

592
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Speaker 2: energy levels will tell you.

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Speaker 1: You know.

594
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Speaker 2: And so for people listening, go where the fuck do

595
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Speaker 2: I start? Make a calculated, intelligent decision. This is a suggestion,

596
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Speaker 2: and change one thing or two things, and don't unchange

597
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Speaker 2: it unless you get really adverse response, and then just

598
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Speaker 2: see what happens, because you might find a thing that

599
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Speaker 2: you go, fuck, I'm I'm five percent better when I

600
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Speaker 2: do this. Cool Now next month, build on that. What

601
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Speaker 2: are your thoughts on that, Tiff?

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Speaker 4: I have been doing that the last couple of years,

603
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Speaker 4: with the with my energy and my hormone changes and

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Speaker 4: HIT and the supplements, and even with the suboptimal usually

605
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Speaker 4: advice from doctors when I'm given like when I was

606
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Speaker 4: put on HRT, I wasn't directed properly on how to

607
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Speaker 4: use the body stuff or what each substance was doing.

608
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Speaker 4: And so recently I had progesterone increased and then I

609
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Speaker 4: had side effects from it, and then I had to

610
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Speaker 4: go and research myself, and then I had to figure

611
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Speaker 4: out and on top of that, I've looked at supplements.

612
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Speaker 4: So I've got a lot of fatigue lately. So now

613
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Speaker 4: I've started having to write down the days that I'm

614
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Speaker 4: feeling tired to see if it's cyclical, if it's happening

615
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Speaker 4: at the same time each month, because it looks like

616
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Speaker 4: it might be, but I forget because I've got the

617
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Speaker 4: mind of bloody rabbit.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm doing it all the time.

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Speaker 4: And now I've had to remove a one of my

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Speaker 4: sleep supplements that works really well at when I'm taking

621
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Speaker 4: progesterone because I think it's too much because I take

622
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Speaker 4: Gabbat and gab is amazing for me. I go straight

623
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Speaker 4: to sleep, but I'm waking up tired and heavy in

624
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Speaker 4: the second half of my cycle when I'm taping progesterone.

625
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean, how fucking interesting is that? And thinking,

626
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Speaker 2: you know, like whether or not you understand your body

627
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Speaker 2: or your mind or your behaviors or whatever.

628
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Speaker 1: Everyone's got a body.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's got a nervous system, everybody's got a hormone or

630
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Speaker 2: an endocrime system. Everybody's got a respiratory in a cardiovasculars

631
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Speaker 2: you know, like we're all the sat we're all different,

632
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Speaker 2: but we've all got the same bits kind of and

633
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Speaker 2: then we've all got a mind, and we've all got

634
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Speaker 2: a background. We've all got a bit of trauma, we've

635
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Speaker 2: all got a bit of excitement, we've all got goals.

636
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Speaker 2: But it's trying to you know, especially on a show

637
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Speaker 2: which is essentially about self optimization on some level, right

638
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Speaker 2: then you know, to start to get a little bit

639
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Speaker 2: strategic and even as we've said many times, to record it,

640
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Speaker 2: to diarize it, and then go, well when I do this,

641
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Speaker 2: what's the outcome?

642
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Speaker 1: Well? No change?

643
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Speaker 2: Cool, Well maybe you can fuck that off when you do,

644
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Speaker 2: you know, like when I started, simplest protocol of all time,

645
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Speaker 2: walk ten thousand steps a day, don't stop, don't do

646
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Speaker 2: it three days, don't go hey, world, I'm doing then

647
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Speaker 2: fucking give up. So since the day I started, which

648
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Speaker 2: is probably twenty months ago, I haven't missed one day

649
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Speaker 2: in twenty months. And overall for me, I couldn't really quantify,

650
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: but I'm just going to say better better brain, better

651
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Speaker 2: energy generally speaking, except when I don't take my B

652
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Speaker 2: twelve because I'm fuck an idiot, yeah, Bobby, Or in.

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Speaker 5: All seriousness, I've always wanted to be a shift worker.

654
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Speaker 5: I know it's really bad for you, but I've always

655
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Speaker 5: wanted to just like sleep all day and work at

656
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Speaker 5: night and just see what the.

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Speaker 1: Impact would be.

658
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Speaker 5: Really Yeah, yeah, I know it's the worst thing you

659
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 5: could possibly do, and there's a lot of issues associated

660
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 5: with shift work, but I've done it a couple of times.

661
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: So when I was younger and I was working security

662
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: in New York.

663
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Speaker 5: This is prior to like getting into that fitness industry,

664
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 5: I was like eighteen years old, and a lot of

665
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 5: times I would do the overnight shift and I loved it.

666
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: There was just something about it. I just love hours

667
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: of the day.

668
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 5: When the rest of the world seems like it's sleeping,

669
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 5: like early early in the morning, four or five o'clock

670
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 5: in the morning.

671
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Speaker 1: I just love that. I look forward to that every

672
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: day and then like twelve one o'clock in the morning.

673
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: It's brilliant.

674
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Speaker 5: So I just I always wanted to experiment with that

675
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 5: for a few months just to feel what that's like.

676
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 5: I probably feel like shit, but for me, there's something

677
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 5: very quiet, very self organizing, you know, just very peaceful

678
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 5: about that time.

679
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: That is such a weird comment, but I'm interested.

680
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I did not expect you to say that

681
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 2: at all, like and simultaneously say, I know it's terrible

682
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 2: for you, but I would love to do this thing. Yeah,

683
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: I have no desire to do that. Could you imagine

684
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: the fucking nightmare that you and I would be? Oh

685
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: oh oh yeah, But I do understand that nighttime stillness

686
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: and space and serenity.

687
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: Bobby, where you're just like, oh, I love this time

688
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: of the day. It's brilliant.

689
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 5: And even when you know, we went to Rinkopec and

690
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 5: you had like three hours a day late maybe kind

691
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 5: of like one hour of twilight and the rest of

692
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 5: the time it was doc I just love the way

693
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 5: that felt.

694
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 4: Hmm.

695
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: Well, Iceland's pretty fucking beautiful as well. Oh my god,

696
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: that that was one of the most magical places I've

697
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: ever been in my life.

698
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you put your little finger up

699
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: in there, please share. Yeah.

700
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 4: So I've got a friend who we do little voice notes.

701
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 4: Here's more like a podcast to me over a messenger

702
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: shout out to VICKI, But it's like catching up with

703
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: a friend when you don't have time to get on

704
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: the phone and catch up with a friend. So she'll

705
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: drop me a voice note about things going on in

706
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 4: their life, and I'll do the same when I have time.

707
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 4: And it's awesome. She in the one that she left

708
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 4: me yesterday. She happened to be thinking about me coming

709
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: back from holiday, She goes, what have you? I was

710
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 4: thinking about you and India and are you going away again?

711
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 4: Like you just had such great energy and what was

712
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 4: that all about? And I was thinking about at Christmas time,

713
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 4: I put I replayed an old episode of one of

714
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 4: my guests, and I listened to it, and I was

715
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 4: talking about the year before when I went to Vietnam,

716
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 4: and I spoke about and I don't recall this now,

717
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 4: but I spoke about Vietnam almost as passionately as I

718
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 4: felt when I came back from India. And it made

719
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 4: me realize how much or how important is for me

720
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: to disconnect and to go to places that are unfamiliar

721
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: and beautiful and around different people, but also how that

722
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 4: reset so when we're in the him malayas it resets

723
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 4: your circadian rhythm because by eight o'clock we eat food

724
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 4: around the campfire, and by eight o'clock I would sneak

725
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 4: off and go get in my tent and I would

726
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 4: go to sleep, and I would wake up, and I

727
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 4: would get up and I would walk and wait for

728
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 4: everyone to wake up. Like your body finds the rhythm again,

729
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 4: because my head's not busy thinking and doing.

730
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think when you get away from the

731
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: thing that you spend most of your time in the

732
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: middle of, be that geographically, socially, professionally, but all of

733
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's you in a part of the world

734
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 2: or country or whatever.

735
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: Where this is not your place, but fuck, this place

736
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: is good. Yeah, like this is yeah. Yeah, I think

737
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: when you're in the middle of that, the continuity.

738
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: Of the day to day, the groundhog dayanus of our existence,

739
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: when you're just kind of in that flow or that momentum,

740
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: swimming to the side of the river and getting out

741
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: of that and finding some space in a different space

742
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: is not always.

743
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: Easy to do.

744
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you realize how some of the.

745
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 4: Small things that don't matter we turn into things that

746
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 4: matter or we have to control too much in our lives.

747
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 4: I remember they would our lunch every day in India

748
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 4: and it would be a really like sometimes a sandwich

749
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: of whitebread sandwich with plastic cheese and shit. And it

750
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 4: was if you handed me that now, I would throw

751
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 4: it at you and go, I'm putting name in my body.

752
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 4: That is grossest thing ever. We would get to lunchtime

753
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 4: and that was the most beautiful gift. I appreciated it

754
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 4: and I enjoyed it because my cup was full from

755
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 4: other things. I wasn't trying to fill my cup with

756
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 4: brownie or I was over control. I need to control this,

757
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 4: I need to put this in my body. It was

758
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 4: just like, have a fucking sandwich, mate.

759
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

760
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: Do you think there's an inverse correlation between your spiritual

761
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: state and your brownie consumption?

762
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: Bobby? I feel like you are in your happy place,

763
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: and it varies a bit. There's peaks and troughs.

764
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: But when you're around people you love and and you're

765
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: on stage, or you're at a conference, or you're at

766
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: an event and things are going great and you're flying,

767
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: which is most of the time, I feel like that's

768
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 2: you going.

769
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: This is my purpose.

770
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: My purpose is to teach and inspire and help and

771
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: support and empower people to be I feel like that's

772
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 2: that's your optimal energy giver almost yeah.

773
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 5: Learning, yeah, teaching, rating, traveling planner, playing with ideas, being

774
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 5: around people that engage me. Absolutely, that is my happy

775
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 5: place them. I plug in to those value sets, the

776
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 5: happier and more fluid am.

777
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember talking to them.

778
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't know who it was, maybe body or someone

779
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: about you and back in the day when you spend

780
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: about seven hundred days on the.

781
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: Road a year and we're like, how does this motherfucker?

782
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: And it's like at the end, you're better than you

783
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: were at the stop. It's like you're jorgonized. Yeah, right,

784
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: when I was constantly on the road.

785
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 5: I mean, it's exhausting when you get off a plane,

786
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 5: especially a red eye, because I cannot sleep on a

787
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 5: plane to save my life. So that day I'm just

788
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 5: walking around like I've been lobotomized. But once I get

789
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 5: some sleep and I get into that rhythm, I have

790
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 5: more energy flying around the world than I do waking

791
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 5: up in the same place and having a structured environment

792
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 5: day in day out, because that becomes a ritual in

793
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 5: and of itself, and it's just all of these things

794
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 5: that feed me. Although lately, and I don't know if

795
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 5: this is a consequence of how my environment has changed,

796
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 5: Like I don't want to say join COVID but towards

797
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 5: the end of COVID to now, or if I'm changing intrinsically,

798
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 5: but I feel like I get more of a reward

799
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: from teaching small groups, not be on that stage, but

800
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 5: training and developing other people to be on that stage,

801
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 5: to be in that coaching appointment.

802
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: I feel like that drives me more than being the

803
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: person on stage myself. Lately.

804
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: Maybe that's because in those more intimate scenarios where it's

805
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: you and ten people in a room or thirty or

806
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: five or whatever, there's more connection, there's more intimacy, there's

807
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: more I don't know, I feel like you're you're not

808
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: really delivering something, You're just connecting with people and interacting

809
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: with people. And like I think that, I think the

810
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: energy is very different in that situation to standing on

811
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: a stage being not performative but essentially doing a performance

812
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: or giving a speech, or where you can't be too

813
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: organic because you've got to get a job done. Yeah,

814
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: I think for me, one of the nicest compliments I've

815
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: ever gotten, and I know TIV has, and I'm sure

816
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: you have. But it is when people say I love

817
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: being around you, I love your energy. When I go

818
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: away from you, I feel more energized. And that's I

819
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: don't mean that sounds self indulgent or arrogant or because

820
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: doesn't get set a lot by the way, most people

821
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: are like your account, how do I get.

822
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: Out of here?

823
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 2: But those few yeah, yeah, yeah, oh you're welcome, thanks Dave.

824
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, like you know people sorry,

825
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: you know tif that people love being around you, like

826
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: you're like even the groups that you teach you your

827
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: training groups where you smash people, like nobody is coming

828
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: because it's fun. It's fucking horrible and you're a fucking

829
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: monster and take my money right, Well that's because of

830
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: your energy. Yeah, like that's And also it's not like, oh,

831
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: there are no other training groups in Melbourne, or there

832
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: are no other gyms. Well, they're a fucking million and

833
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: in the middle of all of that, and it's not

834
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 2: like you're training in a seven million dollar complex. It's

835
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: not like you're at the AIS with unlimited resources. It's

836
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: just old school fucking brutality mixed with a bit of

837
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: sociology and a few laughs and a bit of silliness.

838
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: But because you care about them and you love them,

839
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: they'd love being around you, Like for me, if you can,

840
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: if people want to be around you, just amongst other things,

841
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: but primarily because like your energy is great. That's a

842
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 2: fucking gift. And there are some people that I know

843
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: it's like in I mean this with total respect, but

844
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: there's nothing really majorly spectacular about them where you would go, oh,

845
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: she's a world class singer, or he played for fucking

846
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 2: the New York Jets or whatever it is, right, but

847
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: you just know when you're around them, it's fucking good,

848
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: Like it's not.

849
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: There are some people that being around them.

850
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, it's like wading through fucking

851
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 2: social quicksand God bless. And then there are other people

852
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: that're just like, fuck, I just want to bask in this.

853
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: This makes me and it's nothing particular that happens. I

854
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: just walk away going I'd like to hang out with you.

855
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 2: Like it's like almost a fucking you know, a little

856
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: human pick me up?

857
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: What's that? What's the drug Prozac? It's like a fucking

858
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: human prozac sitting.

859
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 4: Down with energy is so important and it I was

860
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 4: talking about it with someone recently, like just the you

861
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 4: have to be so aware of it because the difference

862
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 4: between me when I am burnt out and aiming to

863
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 4: do what especially given the things that I do, is

864
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 4: I'm a different person if I'm well slept and I

865
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 4: have good energy. But you have to, I mean eventually

866
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: in your life apparently you have to realize that the

867
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 4: energy is not endless and you need to nurture it

868
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 4: and you need to do the right things like when

869
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 4: you're young that was an all the time stayed yes.

870
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: And also being knowing now as a full ass alleged

871
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: grown up going I should probably not have this meeting

872
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: today every now and then, I should probably not do

873
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 2: these two sessions because I'm a two out of ten

874
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: and I'm definitely not going to be amazing to be here,

875
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: and not that you need to be amazing, but it's like,

876
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Speaker 2: I know that I can't do my best for this person.

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00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: So I'll pull the pin.

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00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: We better stop, because we've been banging on for over

879
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: for an hour or so. Robert Capuccio dot com is

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00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: Bobby's website. The self help antidote. Of course, is his

881
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 2: brilliant podcast, Roll with Punches is TIFFs podcast, which is

882
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 2: well over a thousand episodes. She is in rare air,

883
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: She's just fucking flying, and she's off to talk to

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00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 2: the masses in Queensland next Thursday with a stowaway.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. How do you feel about the stowaway?

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00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: Is that? I feel like the stowaway could be a

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00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: fucking distraction. I don't know that he's going to be

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00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: particularly valuable, but who knows.

889
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 3: He's not coming for the entire event.

890
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 4: And as my speaker coach Jack mentioned on Facebook, he's

891
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 4: probably going to be better at reenacting this beautiful blowwave

892
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 4: that the hairdresser gave me yesterday than I would.

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00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: So he might redeem himself. He might might be handy.

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00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: Oh you mean he's going to do your hair up there?

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Speaker 4: I reckon, I reckon. I've got to go to a

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00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: gala ball mate. I went frock shopping today, just saying, what.

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Speaker 1: Did you buy a frock? I did? Oh? Fuck? Describe

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00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: that to Robert Nye? What is this frock?

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Speaker 2: Mate?

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00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: It is listeners.

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00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 3: It is sequenced, all sequenced. I love it. I love

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00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 3: a good sequence. Got split.

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00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 2: I bet it's got the shoulders cut out so everyone

904
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: can see your fucking massive debts, hasn't it? No?

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Speaker 3: Do you want to know a story?

906
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 4: Though this has happened on multiple occasions, Shout out to

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00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 4: the fitness, fitness, the fashion designers out there, who was shit?

908
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 4: Or do you have any times I have gotten Oliver

909
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 4: almost died in the change rooms at Mayas because you

910
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 4: put a dress on and then you go to take

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00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 4: it off and my laps won't come out because there's no.

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00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: Zip or anything.

913
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 4: You slip it over your head and then you've got

914
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Speaker 4: to get back off and I'm like, I'm never and

915
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 4: then sometimes I actually am sitting there.

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00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: I sit for five minutes kind of panicking.

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00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 4: Going, well, what now what do I do with this

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00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 4: dress worth hundreds of dollars that I am now stuck

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Speaker 4: in m That's.

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Speaker 1: Why I address this.

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00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, just put your tracksuit over the top and stroll

922
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: right out. That's what Bobby does. That's how he gets

923
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Speaker 2: his free dresses. I might suggest if that perhaps you

924
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: are the problem, not the dressmakers, because you are an.

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00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: Anomaly, you know from the back. Well I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: total dude, but well, you know.

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Speaker 3: Actually, until I started, you harps and then my left

928
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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 2: The problem creator Bobby. Enjoy that wine and thanks for

930
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: coming to play. We'll say goodbye Affair, of course, but

931
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Speaker 2: TIV thank you for listeners. Sorry about that. We'll try

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Speaker 2: harder next time.