Speaker 1: I'm not even going to intro the show to I'm
Speaker 1: just going to say good morning, Patrick.
Speaker 2: You can't do that. No one will know that the
Speaker 2: show started.
Speaker 1: They'll think I'm breaking with protocol. They know, they know
Speaker 1: where they are, they know what they're listening to. They
Speaker 1: don't need mena Telement's to the fucking new project again.
Speaker 1: They know.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought it's Saturday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you look like you're on the moon. You look
Speaker 1: like you're in at the International Space Station, which is
Speaker 1: I guess the look you're going for. And over your
Speaker 1: well both I was going to say, left mainly left shoulder.
Speaker 1: I can see is that Earth below?
Speaker 2: I can see, well a random planet below. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just a backdrop that I've got for my little podcasting area.
Speaker 2: Do you like it?
Speaker 1: Well? I like it? Well, so that's not a screen thing,
Speaker 1: that's what is that.
Speaker 2: It's an actual printed piece of material that shows a
Speaker 2: view from a space real Yeah, yeah, it's real.
Speaker 1: Seed.
Speaker 2: Look Oh wow at it?
Speaker 1: Like wow, that that is actually can you can you
Speaker 1: just take a little thing of this and make a
Speaker 1: real so people can see Patrick's because you thought it
Speaker 1: was like a virtual background, like like yours, looks like
Speaker 1: an actual background that doesn't have any of the U
Speaker 1: Project identifying it, of course, despite the fact that you're
Speaker 1: being paid right now to represent the U Project. That's
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: If I put a U Project sign on the back
Speaker 2: of my space station.
Speaker 1: Yeah you can. Yeah, I tell you what you see
Speaker 1: if you could get those global numbers, I tell you
Speaker 1: what Mars. The numbers have been really down on Mars
Speaker 1: and Jupiter and especially your Onus. You knew it was coming. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Good morning, Tiff, good morning.
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good? Like Patrick Sport is Patrick Sport Fritz Fritz's
Speaker 1: Patrick Schnauzer, which is not a euphemism but something else
Speaker 1: actually a dog Patrick's fort is Schnauzer. What are you
Speaker 1: have your pets in the studio? Bear is off.
Speaker 3: To the side in her little cat castle, so you
Speaker 3: might see a tail whip past my face at some point.
Speaker 1: And what's learner is she just reclining in the dog
Speaker 1: bean bag.
Speaker 3: There's a fair chance that whilst she realizes I am busy,
Speaker 3: she is sneaking under the covers in my bed, which
Speaker 3: is a yet to be resolved issue that is ongoing.
Speaker 1: What is the what do I don't know if psychology
Speaker 1: is the right word with dogs. But you two a
Speaker 1: dog owners. Dogs seem to dig. Do you think it's
Speaker 1: being in between something under or behind something makes them
Speaker 1: feel secure?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah. Lots of whipbits have there, like these cocoon beds.
Speaker 3: They're like a little there'll a big round cushion and
Speaker 3: then they have a little cover that goes over it and
Speaker 3: it's so cute.
Speaker 1: Whatever you do, don't bring a kangaroo home, a female kangaroo,
Speaker 1: because you know where Luna will be.
Speaker 3: She would look like a little Whippets look like little kangaroos.
Speaker 3: Lots of people call them rue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do. They look like a little Joey's Patrick.
Speaker 1: How's your week been?
Speaker 2: How's my week been? I got to fly my drone,
Speaker 2: which is always fun. One of my clients was doing
Speaker 2: a landscaping project, really steep hill and they're putting a
Speaker 2: winding road up and they're putting gravel down, and I
Speaker 2: just got to fly my drone following the whole construction process.
Speaker 2: It's just it's great. I love doing that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: I was out there. Was that just for curiosity or
Speaker 1: are you filming something or doing something the client?
Speaker 2: Now the client does grounds maintenance and all that sort
Speaker 2: of stuff as best to removal. Last week I was
Speaker 2: actually hits sexy Land, the old sexy Land in Geelong.
Speaker 2: It was a bit of a running joke in the
Speaker 2: office that we were going out to sexy Land to
Speaker 2: do some filming, and all it was was just a
Speaker 2: giant roof that was being taken apart and I got
Speaker 2: to fly my drone. But the funniest thing, and the
Speaker 2: childish thing, was that there is this giant chimney stack
Speaker 2: that's very well known in July Long and I did
Speaker 2: the opening shot. I just had the drone panning up
Speaker 2: this giant chimney stack to reveal the sexy Land roof. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 2: I thought it was I.
Speaker 1: Know where you're going, but I'm not going to open
Speaker 1: the door and jump in because I'm going to try
Speaker 1: and spend the first four minutes without doing any kind
Speaker 1: of innuendo. Thanks to you too.
Speaker 4: Sorry did you just say urinus, that's that's that's planetary,
Speaker 4: that's yeah, good morning.
Speaker 1: TIV said that while you're swigging from your drink, going
Speaker 1: to be hydrated.
Speaker 3: Ha, it's got to stay hydrated.
Speaker 1: It's nine oh five, it's Friday, the fifteenth of the eleventh,
Speaker 1: What have you done? Have you been? Have you done
Speaker 1: a workout? Have you has been productive?
Speaker 3: Luna for a big stroll this morning, a busy little day,
Speaker 3: so Luna first up. We went and trotted around the
Speaker 3: beautiful streets of Elwood.
Speaker 1: Is she a social dog? Is does she like other dogs?
Speaker 3: Or is she a She is sometimes social and sometimes
Speaker 3: a psychopath. She can be just randomly sporadically reactive, so
Speaker 3: we can it can be a real party taking her
Speaker 3: for a walk.
Speaker 1: Sometimes what do you mean reactive like bark at someone? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, on leash she can stack on quite a turn.
Speaker 3: Just a bit of emotional regulation runs in the family.
Speaker 3: We don't know what's going on, but sometimes we just
Speaker 3: start kind of twitching.
Speaker 1: And do you think your emotional state in a given
Speaker 1: moment affects her emotional state?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah, I think it does. But also she reads
Speaker 3: the energy of other dogs because it's not a specific breed.
Speaker 1: It's really odd.
Speaker 3: And then there's a few houses that once she's had
Speaker 3: a bit of a run in with a dog behind
Speaker 3: a fence, approach mat fence, if she sensors the dog there,
Speaker 3: even before she sees a dog, she can start like
Speaker 3: just kind of twitching, Like if you you know what
Speaker 3: highly strung race horses look like when you watch them
Speaker 3: walk around the yard, she can get a bit of
Speaker 3: that going on.
Speaker 1: Wow, I watched this. I wonder if I don't know
Speaker 1: the answer to this question. I'm thinking out loud, but
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's they can kind of if it's emotional,
Speaker 1: or if they smell, because when dogs are in certain states,
Speaker 1: they're producing different chemicals which would have different smells, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I think they can whatever's associated with adrenaline or cortisol
Speaker 1: or all the hormones associated with anger in dogs. Maybe
Speaker 1: they're producing some kind of scent that she can pick
Speaker 1: up on that you can't, like, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: there's like a threat smell or a danger smell or
Speaker 1: a I don't know.
Speaker 3: M that's a good point, and it's all it's to
Speaker 3: do with being on leash as well on leash or
Speaker 3: behind a fence, and you can take those things away
Speaker 3: and she generally doesn't behave the same.
Speaker 1: I watched a video the other day of a lady
Speaker 1: talking who's got a Golden Retriever and she was anyway
Speaker 1: that her dog that she loves, the dog loves her
Speaker 1: they're like like you two and your dogs like in love.
Speaker 1: And her dog started acting a bit weird, and when
Speaker 1: she would lie down the dog, she could see the
Speaker 1: dog was uneasy and concerned, but nothing had happened, so
Speaker 1: she couldn't figure it out. And whenever she would lie down,
Speaker 1: the dog would come up and poke its nose in
Speaker 1: her stomach slash chest region, you know what I'm going
Speaker 1: to say. And this was just consistent. And anyway, she
Speaker 1: had no symptoms, so no reason to go for a
Speaker 1: check up. And anyway, she took the dog to the vet,
Speaker 1: and the vets like, the dog's fine, there's nothing. I
Speaker 1: don't know, like there's nothing wrong with her or him.
Speaker 1: I think with her anyway, a week later or something anyway,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm going to say. So she went
Speaker 1: to the doctor and she had either stomach cancer or
Speaker 1: lung cancer or something, but it was early enough that
Speaker 1: it was treatable. And if not, she thinks, and probably
Speaker 1: if not for the dog's early early warning system, like
Speaker 1: the canine early warning system going hey mom, there's something
Speaker 1: going on in here that doesn't smell right. There's fucking
Speaker 1: something bad, because I guess, I mean, I don't fucking
Speaker 1: know everyone, I'm making this shut up, but I would
Speaker 1: imagine that it must be a in inverted Comma's bad
Speaker 1: smell for the dog or something that's unfamiliar. So fucking hell.
Speaker 1: So you two, you know, if Patrick rich starts poking
Speaker 1: you in the cock, you better go the doctor. Oh god,
Speaker 1: well you better or stomach or left elbow, doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: whatever body part. But if all of a sudden, I.
Speaker 2: Was going to ask you how your week's been, because
Speaker 2: you ask us all the time, and I don't know
Speaker 2: that we ask you that often.
Speaker 1: But love, Yeah, I don't want to bore everyone or
Speaker 1: upset everyone, but I've had a hard week with a
Speaker 1: friend of mine, family friend, very very close is doing it.
Speaker 1: Doing it hard would be an understatement. But so that's
Speaker 1: been going on, and I've been so I grew up.
Speaker 1: The quick version is, I've got four pseudo sisters that
Speaker 1: I grew up next to, kind of in parallel up
Speaker 1: in the country. I'm like their brother that I have
Speaker 1: a brother. They're like my sisters. I don't have siblings.
Speaker 1: Their mum and dad was like my other mum and dad,
Speaker 1: and vice versa. And you know, it's it's fair to
Speaker 1: say that. Yeah, their mum is just she's in the
Speaker 1: hospital at the moment and not in a great way.
Speaker 1: And so it's been an interesting time, you know, And
Speaker 1: it's been it's interesting without being morbid or anything. But
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about and I know this show
Speaker 1: is not about this, but fuck it, we're humans like
Speaker 1: you talk about gratitude and awareness and you and I
Speaker 1: Tip have spoken about this a bit lately, context and
Speaker 1: perspective and what actually matters. And I know we all
Speaker 1: know this, but when someone that you love gets sick,
Speaker 1: it's amazing how quickly for me anyway, things come screamingly
Speaker 1: into perspective. And you know, which is why I still
Speaker 1: like to get on the show and have fun and
Speaker 1: be silly, because we need the pendulum to swing a bit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this week has been tough mentally and emotionally,
Speaker 1: and it was always also one of my best mates
Speaker 1: died a few years ago, and it was his birthday yesterday,
Speaker 1: so November four, and Dicko shout out to Dicko and
Speaker 1: Dicka's family, and so yeah, it was just one of those.
Speaker 1: It's been an interesting week. But nonetheless, mate, we push on,
Speaker 1: We push on.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are struggling at the moment.
Speaker 2: I was talking to a lovely client of mine who
Speaker 2: is a florist here in town, and you know, I
Speaker 2: get a sense that people with there's a lot of uncertainty.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not suggesting that the recent American election
Speaker 2: kind of influenced people much, but a lot of people
Speaker 2: were talking about it, this speculation as to what's going
Speaker 2: to happen on a world scale, but even on a
Speaker 2: domestic scale. You know, you go and you fill up
Speaker 2: at the petrol station, or you buy your groceries and
Speaker 2: everything that seems that to be that little bit more expensive,
Speaker 2: and I think people are finding a little bit harder.
Speaker 2: And we're going into Christmas and that can be a
Speaker 2: positive time, but it can be a stressful time for
Speaker 2: people as well. We forget that sometimes, so I think,
Speaker 2: just yeah, big cyber hug to everyone at the moment,
Speaker 2: I think just more often and really look past the
Speaker 2: facade and say, what's driving that? The person yelling at
Speaker 2: you because you know you got cut off when you're driving,
Speaker 2: you know, road rage. Why do people get so riled
Speaker 2: up so easily, and what's happening in the background in
Speaker 2: their lives? You know, we often think of isolated incidents,
Speaker 2: as you know, we've been hard done by, But what
Speaker 2: motivates that, what led up to it? What was that
Speaker 2: straw that broke the Campbell's back? And I don't know,
Speaker 2: we look further than beyond the surface sometimes.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we've probably spoken about we haven't spoken
Speaker 1: about this on this particular, you know, the Patrick, Tiff
Speaker 1: and Craig Show, but we've spoken a lot outside of
Speaker 1: this context about I mean, the way that we are
Speaker 1: always you know, Patrick only sees the Patrick world, TIFFs
Speaker 1: sees it. You know, it's because we're always looking through
Speaker 1: our lens, our window, our beliefs, and that shapes our reality.
Speaker 1: And it's the same. And even me, who kind of
Speaker 1: has a pretty good grasp of self awareness and subjective
Speaker 1: objective all that shit reality, I still look through the
Speaker 1: Craig window, and I still have bias, and I still
Speaker 1: I'm still selfish, and I still want things to be
Speaker 1: the way I want them to be. And you know,
Speaker 1: and that's the that's the ever present I guess reality
Speaker 1: is that even though I've said this too many times,
Speaker 1: but there's three of us in this conversation, but we're
Speaker 1: all having a different experience, because our experience is created
Speaker 1: by us individually. And then so when you see someone
Speaker 1: who's losing their shits, and for you it's not something
Speaker 1: that you would lose your shit over, it's very easy
Speaker 1: to be judgmental. But you know, I think you told
Speaker 1: this story a long time ago, mate, about a guy
Speaker 1: who got on a train, do you remember, and a
Speaker 1: kid was some kid was losing his shits and the
Speaker 1: dad was there, not really on the train, not really
Speaker 1: paying attention and not controlling his kid. And then some
Speaker 1: other guy kind of reprimanded the father for not controlling
Speaker 1: his child. And he'd just left the hospital because his
Speaker 1: wife had died, and he was do you remember that?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: Actually that's right, right, maybe it will obviously, wasn't you.
Speaker 1: But it's like this, literally, this dude was on he
Speaker 1: just left the hospital, his wife had died of cant
Speaker 1: who was sitting on a train. He was just fucking lost,
Speaker 1: and his kid was running a muck a bit, and
Speaker 1: this other passenger is like reprimanding him for all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and he was just clearly you know, So you don't,
Speaker 1: and I know that's melodramatically, you don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: And you. Yeah, it's I think as I think, as
Speaker 1: we get maybe a bit older, who knows, hopefully we
Speaker 1: get wiser. I don't know that that's always the case,
Speaker 1: but I think just having I think, trying to understand
Speaker 1: others but not necessarily agree with them. And we've spoken
Speaker 1: about this, like understanding even people that you don't agree with.
Speaker 1: Understanding them doesn't mean that you can done what they
Speaker 1: do or you support what they do, but we need
Speaker 1: to at least, you know, Like I think it was
Speaker 1: Edmund Burke said, all it's necessary for evil to triumph
Speaker 1: is for good, he said men, but I think him
Speaker 1: and people will use people. All that's necessary for evil
Speaker 1: to triumph is for good people to do nothing right.
Speaker 1: But you can't. You can't overcome what you don't understand.
Speaker 1: So even with shit that's dark and evil and sinister,
Speaker 1: we need to try to understand that so we can
Speaker 1: combat that, you know, And I think that's evident now
Speaker 1: with everything across the world, from war to famine, to
Speaker 1: domestic violence to politics, to all the horrible shit that
Speaker 1: really does happen. It's all well and good to go,
Speaker 1: it shouldn't happen, but we need to understand why it
Speaker 1: keeps fucking happening, so we can figure out a solution.
Speaker 2: But even at a micro level, it was interesting. One
Speaker 2: of the stories that I was going to chat about
Speaker 2: today was that a lot of you are probably aware
Speaker 2: that Tesla has all these cameras around their cars, and
Speaker 2: it's called a sentinel system, so it tracks the vehicle
Speaker 2: and what's happening and senses what's going on around the vehicle.
Speaker 2: And there's a Facebook group of Tesla owners and they
Speaker 2: show videos of people vandalizing their cars. And it's not
Speaker 2: disgruntled teenagers. They're showing instances of boomers. You know, a
Speaker 2: woman walks past and just keys the car, an older
Speaker 2: man keys the car, and you think that's behavior is
Speaker 2: something that you would not expect from a grown person.
Speaker 2: And what's prompted them to be so angry with an
Speaker 2: indiscriminate person who they've never met. The only thing that
Speaker 2: has identified them is that they're driving an electric car,
Speaker 2: a Tesla in this case. Now, whether to other really
Speaker 2: expensive cars, I mean, someone might have a merk PARKD
Speaker 2: or a Beama and they may be doing the same thing,
Speaker 2: but they're not being captured on camera. But what does
Speaker 2: that say about our society. I was talking to someone
Speaker 2: about how if you had a convicted criminal who was
Speaker 2: a multi multi millionaire almost billionaire, would you vote them
Speaker 2: into power Because in Australia tall poppy syndrome not a
Speaker 2: bloody chance. But when we look at rich people, we
Speaker 2: tend to do the tall poppy thing, Whereas in the
Speaker 2: United States when they see a rich person, they think, Wow,
Speaker 2: that person's worked hard and they look up to that person.
Speaker 2: They aspire to be that person. And I'm no way
Speaker 2: a political pundit that I wouldn't even want to begin
Speaker 2: to try to analyze, you know, what happened at the
Speaker 2: last election. But the reality of it is our mindset's
Speaker 2: very different in Australia and the way that we look
Speaker 2: at people and that tall poppy thing seems to come
Speaker 2: back a lot, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it is. It is interesting like
Speaker 1: I've presented in America quite a lot, and yeah, look
Speaker 1: like the audiences in Australia are good. It varies though.
Speaker 1: It's like in there was very famous baseball who was
Speaker 1: one of the first Australians to do great in America
Speaker 1: in the in the major in the Major League Baseball MLB.
Speaker 1: His name is Dave Neilson. He was a pitcher, and
Speaker 1: he said he wants to go where he's celebrated, not tolerated, right,
Speaker 1: And he was talking about how in America this was
Speaker 1: as best I remember this because this was my first
Speaker 1: kind of exposure to this idea of tall poppy syndrome.
Speaker 1: And he said, it's interesting because he's and there was
Speaker 1: no ego in this, but he's like quite successful, famous, wealthy,
Speaker 1: you know, back in the day, one of the best
Speaker 1: baseballers on the planet, which was obviously an exceptional thing
Speaker 1: for an Australian growing up in a country where baseball
Speaker 1: is not a big sport and all that stuff. And
Speaker 1: he said, but his overwhelming kind of energy that he
Speaker 1: got was that Australians resented him, whereas in America they
Speaker 1: just they were they thought it was fucking amazing, you know.
Speaker 1: So I think there's a bit of that, but I
Speaker 1: also think, you know, it's like I personally get a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, I get bits of hate, of course,
Speaker 1: but I'm in no way a big deal. But if
Speaker 1: I run a public event and we get hundreds of
Speaker 1: people along, obviously they're coming to hear me. So it's
Speaker 1: a warm audience, but it's mostly positive. But I think
Speaker 1: also just jumping back, this is interesting to there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of technology involved here to the Tesla thing
Speaker 1: where you go, oh, you wouldn't expect boomers to do
Speaker 1: this or that. I don't know, I kind of would.
Speaker 1: I think some boomers some a fucking resentful bit of
Speaker 1: twisted old fucks. I do. I do. No, not obviously,
Speaker 1: not all, but I think anyone like. I'll give you
Speaker 1: two quick stories. Right, So, my mum and dad had
Speaker 1: a restaurant years ago, and they I wanted I can't
Speaker 1: give too much detail, but they employed a person that
Speaker 1: they knew, not well. But this person was really struggling
Speaker 1: part of a family. The family, you know, some shit
Speaker 1: had happened. So they gave this person a job to
Speaker 1: help them that really didn't have great skills, any experience
Speaker 1: in hospitality. And the quick story is this person systematically
Speaker 1: stole money from my mum and dad. Right now, Mom
Speaker 1: and dad gave this person an opportunity so that they
Speaker 1: could support or help support their family. And this was
Speaker 1: not a nineteen year old. This was like a forty
Speaker 1: five year old woman who was just happened to be
Speaker 1: a woman could have been a man, but it was
Speaker 1: or maybe a forty year old, but yeah, stealing from
Speaker 1: my mum and dad. I had similar things happen in
Speaker 1: my business. I went to I was in New Zealand
Speaker 1: quite a few years ago and I was training at
Speaker 1: a big gym in Queenstown and what a beautiful joint
Speaker 1: that is. Anyway, I was talking to a guy who
Speaker 1: owned it. I think it was a guy. It was
Speaker 1: a guy, and we were just chatting about the industry
Speaker 1: and stuff. Said, I'll tell you. We ended up talking
Speaker 1: about how do you go? Because back then it was
Speaker 1: a lot of cash, you know, and they had a
Speaker 1: multitude of different things that needed to be paid for,
Speaker 1: everything from gatorade to coffee, to swimming goggles to squash
Speaker 1: rackets to memberships to you know. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of cash. And this dude thought that one of his
Speaker 1: staff was stealing one, right, So he got a friend
Speaker 1: of his found a security company to come in like
Speaker 1: at midnight on a Sunday night when the joint was closed,
Speaker 1: and put all these cameras in reception looking down to
Speaker 1: feel what was happening over and around the cash register.
Speaker 1: And so the first day, which was a Monday, I
Speaker 1: think there were seven people that were working at reception,
Speaker 1: and all seven of them stole. Wow, all seven staff
Speaker 1: members were pilfering either money or products or so they
Speaker 1: would do a forty dollars sale and they'd ring up twenty,
Speaker 1: so at the end of the day the till balanced,
Speaker 1: but that'd sell to whatevers two pairs of goggles. They'd
Speaker 1: ring up one pair of goggle and they'd put twenty
Speaker 1: in the till and twenty in their pocket. And every
Speaker 1: one of his staff members And this was not shifty,
Speaker 1: dodgy people. This is just people who went it's a
Speaker 1: cash business. I deserve this. Da da da da dha. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you'd be surprised. I would think that is
Speaker 1: an atypical result. I would think generally seven out of
Speaker 1: seven don't. But that is that was his story. And yeah,
Speaker 1: and he used you know, surveillance and tech and cameras
Speaker 1: to figure that out. But but I'm not surprised. Patrick,
Speaker 1: all right, this is not about me today. I just
Speaker 1: made it. I apologized, but I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2: No, it is. It's really interesting. You know, It's about
Speaker 2: the human condition. I suppose. Look, one of the reasons
Speaker 2: I like tech is because I just find it interesting.
Speaker 2: And you know, we were talking just briefly about what
Speaker 2: was happening in the political format, and you know, what
Speaker 2: was going on politics around the world. And one of
Speaker 2: the things I like about my news feed is it's
Speaker 2: totally curated for me. So I get vegan recipes, tech news, gadgets,
Speaker 2: and people say, oh my god, I just see that happen.
Speaker 2: It's like, nah, nah, didn't see that happen. Nah? But
Speaker 2: did you know that now you can power your house
Speaker 2: with your electric car. It's like, really, actually you can,
Speaker 2: by the way, I just thought i'd work that into
Speaker 2: the store.
Speaker 1: But how do you charge your car? Though?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, look if you need it to now, Look,
Speaker 2: this isn't It's interesting when you think about it. The
Speaker 2: batteries inside electric cars are actually bigger than the batteries
Speaker 2: used when people have power backups in their homes. So
Speaker 2: if you've got a test wall, a power wall, it's
Speaker 2: smaller than a battery inside a Tesla car. So it
Speaker 2: makes perfect sense. And I didn't know this. I was
Speaker 2: doing looking into this in an article I was reading,
Speaker 2: and there's actually three different formats it's called. So there's
Speaker 2: V two, G which is vehicle to the grid, V
Speaker 2: two H, which is vehicle to the house, and then
Speaker 2: V two L, which is vehicle to load. And what
Speaker 2: it effectively means is that you can use that car.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know I'm ignoring your question silly now,
Speaker 2: but effectively it means that if there's a power blackout,
Speaker 2: you could use your electric car to be able to
Speaker 2: power your house, or if you go camping, you can
Speaker 2: plug it into your car and be able to run
Speaker 2: those items, or just actually use your car's battery power
Speaker 2: to feed back into the grid and make some money.
Speaker 2: So the reason that would work, I mean for a
Speaker 2: lot of people who've got electric cars, or at least the
Speaker 2: people that I know have got solar panels as well,
Speaker 2: they're generating power and charging the car up. But on
Speaker 2: a cloudy day, when you haven't got that much power
Speaker 2: being charged, you could effectively be using your car to
Speaker 2: feedback into the grid. So if you're not going to
Speaker 2: be driving that day, you could use the battery for
Speaker 2: something else, or if the power goes out.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, well that makes total sense. And I
Speaker 1: mean I think in certain situations that's going to be
Speaker 1: a godsend, you know, But.
Speaker 2: That feature isn't actually available so much in Australia. It's
Speaker 2: only just recently that particularly, the vehicle to the grid
Speaker 2: has only now been launched or is about to be
Speaker 2: launched in Australia because it's way charging effectively. It's called
Speaker 2: bidirectional charging, and a lot of the current cars don't
Speaker 2: have that capacity, or at least the charging stations don't
Speaker 2: have that capacity. So this is regulations have to be
Speaker 2: put in place, and the Climate Change Ministry here in
Speaker 2: Australia has just approved the idea of vehicle to the
Speaker 2: grid and it means by Christmas people who have their
Speaker 2: electric cars will be able to then use that to
Speaker 2: be able to power back into the grid, which could
Speaker 2: be quite useful.
Speaker 1: Hey, yes, I agree, I'm just reading here. One of
Speaker 1: your one of your dot points for our discussion today
Speaker 1: is goodbye annoying touch screens, welcome back buttons. Thank god
Speaker 1: if that happens, because I'm a fucking t rex, so
Speaker 1: I'm on board. I'm all in right before you tell
Speaker 1: us about that. You know how we have like the
Speaker 1: iPhone fucking twenty eight which you can land the space
Speaker 1: shuttle and you know, cure cancer with right, We've got that.
Speaker 1: But then at the other end of the scale, we've
Speaker 1: got really fundamental phones that we can use as essentially
Speaker 1: a phone to make calls, get calls. And where did
Speaker 1: he go to? Is he going?
Speaker 3: You can still here, but he just gets up and leaves.
Speaker 1: That's okay. So but you know how we've got super
Speaker 1: capable phones and then super fundamental phones, right, and we've
Speaker 1: also got you know, digital music recorded incredibly and we've
Speaker 1: got LPs which we put on a record player. Right,
Speaker 1: so we've got all ends of the scale. My question
Speaker 1: to you is, do you think or my idea is
Speaker 1: I reckon they should produce a car, and of course
Speaker 1: there's got to be some tech, but a low tech
Speaker 1: car where you don't need to be a fucking genius
Speaker 1: to use it. You know, it's almost like the analog car.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a wireless do you turn the button
Speaker 1: on for the air? You know there's a radio, you
Speaker 1: turn the knob. Is anyone like that's what my mom needs?
Speaker 1: I'm scared to she's probably not going to have another car.
Speaker 1: But even the last car I bought her, it's it's
Speaker 1: a Suzuki Swift that's not exactly a fucking Tesla but
Speaker 1: it's almost over In fact, it is over ahead eighty
Speaker 1: percent of what that car can do, you know, because
Speaker 1: she can make phone calls automatically just talking to the car,
Speaker 1: and adaptive you know, cruise control and what do you
Speaker 1: think Patrick, a low key, analogue basic car, but for
Speaker 1: like fifteen grand look.
Speaker 2: Yes and no. I'm going to answer yes and no.
Speaker 2: The reason of the yes and no is because there's
Speaker 2: so much more safety features built into new cars. Lane assist,
Speaker 2: adaptive cruise control, all those sort of things are really
Speaker 2: good because it makes it safer on the roads. However, yes,
Speaker 2: bring back the knobs. And Hyundai, Porsche Volkswagen they are
Speaker 2: thinking about doing just that. In fact, Hyundai Design North
Speaker 2: America vice president, a guard by the name of Ha Haksu,
Speaker 2: has basically said that they have talked to their customers
Speaker 2: and the customers are saying, we need to go back
Speaker 2: to knobs. We need to go back to those.
Speaker 1: Now, Wow, you would have breed the sireh relief. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good knobs, it is everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so stand by, Yeah, so the knob.
Speaker 1: Can't wait? Can't wait? Keep going?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: You want me to keep going? After you threw us
Speaker 2: all under.
Speaker 1: The I didn't throw anyone under the bus. I didn't
Speaker 1: you like literally it's oh no, that's going to say
Speaker 1: knobs are back. That was the bloody headline. So but
Speaker 1: actually i'm reading it. It's buttons, buttons and knobs coming
Speaker 1: back soon.
Speaker 2: Here's here's an amazing story, and.
Speaker 1: We'll be the judge.
Speaker 2: Power over Skinned.
Speaker 1: Don't oversell it. Don't oversell it. Next time. Go here's
Speaker 1: a pretty fucking boring story. And if it's good, we'll
Speaker 1: be impressed. But when you go this is amazing, you've
Speaker 1: set our sights too high. So start again, Start again.
Speaker 2: This group of nerds, these boffins at the researchers at
Speaker 2: the Future Interfaces Group, have come up with wearable tech.
Speaker 2: It's called power over Skin, right, and it doesn't take batteries.
Speaker 2: It uses your bodies r F frequency to power these devices.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what RF frequency is. What is that?
Speaker 2: Okay? What is that? The body has natural RF energy.
Speaker 2: It's small basically because our body releases electrical impulses when
Speaker 2: we move. Okay, that's releasing RF energy. And they're saying
Speaker 2: they can harness the power of RF energy, which would
Speaker 2: allow very very tiny devices to be powered by contact
Speaker 2: with the skin.
Speaker 1: So I've got it. What about sorry, what about this
Speaker 1: for an idea? Because you know, a calorie is a
Speaker 1: calories energy, right, yep, Excess calories are stored in fat.
Speaker 1: Imagine if we could run our home from our guts.
Speaker 2: So Craig could powry his house by his fat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, excess fat.
Speaker 5: Imagine if you all your wearables were running off, you're
Speaker 5: at a post tissue. Sorry mate, keep going and apologies
Speaker 5: to the listeners. I know this is bad, even as
Speaker 5: we're in the middle of it. I recognize how bad
Speaker 5: it is. But it could get better, so stick around.
Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, these researchers at Carnegie Mellon University of talking
Speaker 2: about using RF transmission, So maybe it might be a
Speaker 2: bluetooth ring or a medical patch for tracking health data
Speaker 2: sun exposure. So if you could think of a little
Speaker 2: patch you'd have on your hand when you've been out
Speaker 2: in the sun for too long, it would tell you
Speaker 2: that you know you're risking getting burned. I think it
Speaker 2: could be pretty cool to do that. And the fact
Speaker 2: that we then don't have disposable batteries, no more land
Speaker 2: waste all that sort of stuff landfill waste. I just
Speaker 2: thought pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could do that. That is all silliness aside,
Speaker 1: that would be fucking amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's lots of phone I mean. The good
Speaker 2: thing is that technology has got so much better. Remember
Speaker 2: you know, remember when you used to have light bulbs
Speaker 2: that heat it up, and the problem was they took
Speaker 2: up so much energy, and then they were replaced with LEDs.
Speaker 2: The LEDs don't cause heat. They tend to expel light
Speaker 2: rather than lots of heat. And the problem with old
Speaker 2: light bulbs is that you used so much energy to
Speaker 2: power the filament. It caused heat and that's what used
Speaker 2: up lots of the power, not so much of the
Speaker 2: light that it was producing. So yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 2: to be said about it. I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: a seguay as such, But do you have an air tag?
Speaker 2: If either of you guys ever used air tags.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, so I'm going to
Speaker 1: go with no.
Speaker 2: Okay, So at air tag, you put it in your
Speaker 2: luggage or you put it on your car keys, and
Speaker 2: that way when you can't find your stuff, you can
Speaker 2: use your phone to find it. Apple's got their air tag.
Speaker 2: There's the equivalent on Android. They've got tiles that sort
Speaker 2: of stuff. But for the first time, Apple and Quantus
Speaker 2: are going to part nor up and they're going to
Speaker 2: use air tag bag tracking, which means you'll be able
Speaker 2: to know where your bag is at all times, when
Speaker 2: it's got off the plane and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can kind of do that now, but
Speaker 2: by supporting it and teaming up, it means it's going
Speaker 2: to be a much better tracking system, so lot a
Speaker 2: lot less chance of things going missing, and if they do,
Speaker 2: they can find them really rapidly. I thought that was
Speaker 2: kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Because I need that. I need that, Patrick, how much
Speaker 1: do you know how much that is?
Speaker 2: Take overall? There's nothing an air tag maybe thirty bucks
Speaker 2: or less twenty five? Oh yeah, you can track it off.
Speaker 1: I think I didn't know what they were called, but
Speaker 1: I think I knew about them. But I so tif
Speaker 1: no pressure. But Christmas is coming.
Speaker 3: So well we start wearing the headphones I last bought you,
Speaker 3: or think about gifts or gifts, but you don't seem
Speaker 3: to put them to good use, just saying.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, sure that's valid. No, it's worth it to
Speaker 1: Shay too, Shay, good point. Okay, forget that. But you
Speaker 1: know what's interesting, Patrick Jones, is like this intersection of
Speaker 1: biology and technology is just becoming more and more, isn't it.
Speaker 1: You know, with like you're talking about our body powering
Speaker 1: these things, you know, and you know, neural link and
Speaker 1: all that kind of Yeah, it's becoming more and more
Speaker 1: a symbiotic relationship between you know, biology and technology producing
Speaker 1: something more evolved. Maybe I don't know it's more or
Speaker 1: less evolved, but interesting.
Speaker 2: But we were talking not long ago in one of
Speaker 2: the shows about a company that was developing augmented reality technology.
Speaker 2: But instead of wearing glasses so you can see an
Speaker 2: overlay of tech in front of you, so it might
Speaker 2: be giving you directions when you're walking down the street,
Speaker 2: they're talking about putting contact lenses and having contact lenses. Now,
Speaker 2: if you think about this new tech, if you could
Speaker 2: use RF technology and your own body can power the
Speaker 2: electronic devices that you're putting on your eye to be
Speaker 2: able to have little tiny screens that allow you to
Speaker 2: be it's not obtrusive. It means you don't have to
Speaker 2: wear glasses and you could be walking down the street
Speaker 2: and getting all this analytic information, you know, just hovering
Speaker 2: in the air in front of you. Your new car
Speaker 2: has heads up display, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. That's exactly what I was thinking of
Speaker 1: when you said that. I'm just imagine how much that
Speaker 1: would fuck with your mind and brain at the start,
Speaker 1: where you could pull up Google, you know, and you're
Speaker 1: staring off into space and someone's like, what are you doing, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm just looking up a word? Look what I'm just
Speaker 1: checking the stock market.
Speaker 2: It's really funny though, Craigo if you had Tinder on
Speaker 2: there and you swiped left or right and then you
Speaker 2: slapped someone in the face because you thought that it
Speaker 2: was swiping.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, definitely don't look at paun when you're on
Speaker 1: the train, just saying you know that. But that would
Speaker 1: have to be I can't see that ever being legalized
Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons, probably the main reason being driving.
Speaker 1: Imagine driving, but you've also got other shit coming up
Speaker 1: in your vision other than the road ahead of you.
Speaker 2: How do you control that? I mean, I see people
Speaker 2: as I do a lot of driving at the moment,
Speaker 2: and I know you do certainly do as well. I
Speaker 2: would in a drive to Melbourne in an hour, I
Speaker 2: would I reckon comfortably see three people on their phones. Ah,
Speaker 2: of course easily.
Speaker 1: You know, like what's yeah, I'm with you. I mean
Speaker 1: obviously I would think all three of us. Our phone
Speaker 1: just goes through our car. I don't even have to
Speaker 1: just go call Patrick and the car calls Patrick. Even
Speaker 1: in my old little cheap car, it still does the same, right.
Speaker 1: But but I think, you know, like turning, turning something
Speaker 1: on where you've got to take your eyes off the
Speaker 1: road and look at whatever it is, the panel, the like,
Speaker 1: that's that's not like it's not illegal to turn the
Speaker 1: heater on or the air conditioning on, or to change
Speaker 1: the channel while you're driving. But otherwise you wouldn't have
Speaker 1: that capacity. It would disable that as soon as the
Speaker 1: start the car started moving. But yeah, I think of
Speaker 1: course talking on you know, look holding your phone, looking
Speaker 1: at your phone, using your phone, per se, stupid. But
Speaker 1: I think there are other things that happen in a
Speaker 1: car that are just as Like is it illegal to
Speaker 1: drink a glass of orange juice while you're driving or
Speaker 1: a coffee from macers? It's not illegal, is it. Well,
Speaker 1: you've got to put that back in the cup holder
Speaker 1: where you're not doing that blind. You've got to look
Speaker 1: at it. You've got to put it in. Then you've
Speaker 1: got to take your eyes off the road to reach
Speaker 1: over and get it. I don't know. There's just a
Speaker 1: lot of things that happen in a car that to
Speaker 1: me seem equally distracting, as you know, talking on a
Speaker 1: phone or picking up He's gone again, Tim.
Speaker 2: I haven't gone. I'm right here. But talking about legality,
Speaker 2: how about this one. You're driving in your car, you
Speaker 2: drive through a drive through at a Macka's or whatever,
Speaker 2: and you pay with your phone. Well, technically you've just
Speaker 2: broken the law because the car is running, you're sitting
Speaker 2: behind the vehicle, it's not parked, and you've just used
Speaker 2: your phone to pay. You could sit if you were
Speaker 2: you're with the Boys in Blue. You could sit at
Speaker 2: a takeout and just fine every person who goes through
Speaker 2: the drive through. But that's technically right, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Page. I'm not that familiar with the leg out, but
Speaker 1: it probably probably technically. But the boys and girls in
Speaker 1: Blue in Victoria are having a bit of a holiday
Speaker 1: at the moment. Anyway, you so do your best. They
Speaker 1: were yesterday, I think, by the way, shout out to
Speaker 1: vic pol do great work.
Speaker 2: Amazing. They're fantastic.
Speaker 1: That is that is a fucking not only is that
Speaker 1: a tough job, but also it's like, I don't know
Speaker 1: why with some people police are unpopular. What do you
Speaker 1: try a world without police. Let's give that a go.
Speaker 1: Let's see how let's see how anarchy works for you.
Speaker 2: They're unpopular until something happens, they've broken down by the
Speaker 2: side of the road or someone's broken into their house,
Speaker 2: and certainly they need them, and then they're their best friends.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's a perspective thing, but I've been
Speaker 2: fortunate in my career as a journalist, and also I've
Speaker 2: got many friends over the years who I've managed to
Speaker 2: interact with who are police, and I see what they
Speaker 2: go through. I know you are in the same boat
Speaker 2: with You've had lots of friends over the years who
Speaker 2: have worked in the industry, have been members. And I
Speaker 2: think it's an altruistic thing that people do when they
Speaker 2: want to be in an industry that services people, whether
Speaker 2: they work in the armed forces or they happen to
Speaker 2: an ambulance officer or a police officer. So much respect
Speaker 2: for those people.
Speaker 1: I think all of those face. You know, those people.
Speaker 1: Let the nurses, doctors, paramout all of those and that
Speaker 1: is that is apart from the fact that what cops
Speaker 1: do is high risk. I mean, you know, they see
Speaker 1: a lot of shit that humans probably shouldn't see or
Speaker 1: were definitely not built to see. They see a lot
Speaker 1: of shit. And you don't clock off at five o'clock
Speaker 1: and the shit stays at work, like you take this
Speaker 1: shit home. That's a whole different episode. But yeah, whatever
Speaker 1: they get paid, it ain't enough.
Speaker 2: And nurses and teachers, yeah the list, Ye all right,
Speaker 2: next patrickaving your money Crago. Here's a pack that I
Speaker 2: read in c neet an article, And if you have
Speaker 2: a Gmail account, you've got fifteen gigabytes of storage, which
Speaker 2: is a reasonable amount of storage. But because there are
Speaker 2: literally billions of people who are on Gmail, who you
Speaker 2: have Google accounts, they cap it at fifteen gig What
Speaker 2: that then means is, once you've filled up that space,
Speaker 2: you've only got the only option you've got is to
Speaker 2: delet stuff or to then pay a subscription to increase
Speaker 2: the memory storage. But there is an.
Speaker 1: Oh, and Patrick's gone. We'll be back with normal programming
Speaker 1: in just one minute. TIV. Let's just keep Let's just
Speaker 1: keep talking, and let's leave this in because what happened
Speaker 1: just then, everyone is Patrick just disappeared off the screen
Speaker 1: and considering.
Speaker 3: His whole login failed, he didn't get up this time
Speaker 3: and leave.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, no, no, he's just okay. Just did
Speaker 1: you just lean on a button that you shouldn't have?
Speaker 2: No, I didn't lean on a button that I should have.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm trying to connect you to my
Speaker 2: road cast. To give me two seconds, can you hear me?
Speaker 1: It is? It sounds a little bit like you're in
Speaker 1: a phone booth now, but that's okay.
Speaker 2: No, No, that's because I haven't connected to my device.
Speaker 2: I see, give me two seconds.
Speaker 1: Leave all this in, Tiff. This is great. This is
Speaker 1: the organic nature of podcasts. Fuck, there's no editing, there's
Speaker 1: no fluff. Yes, and his back.
Speaker 2: Hello, Yeah, no, I I'm back.
Speaker 1: That I'm back on my phone.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to connect you to my road caster, right.
Speaker 1: That is why your audio is rock solid.
Speaker 2: Sc Give me a few seconds and I'll be able
Speaker 2: to get it all back on again. God, and we're back.
Speaker 1: You didn't even know where were gone because Tiff is
Speaker 1: so fucking brilliant at editing. But we're back because Patrick's
Speaker 1: Internet did a big poo.
Speaker 2: And as the Internet, what was it? Well, can I
Speaker 2: just say that for the last fifteen minutes, I have
Speaker 2: suffered the equivalent of range anxiety. Go on, so we
Speaker 2: know what range anxiety is. Right when you driving this?
Speaker 2: We do?
Speaker 1: We do? You think?
Speaker 2: In my battery down to five percent and I've still
Speaker 2: going to go one hundred kilometers.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: So I've set up in the studio in my new
Speaker 2: studio area in my garage, right and I have everything
Speaker 2: set up, and I got an old laptop, and I
Speaker 2: was going to podcast with the old laptop and realized
Speaker 2: that it wasn't connecting properly. It was too old. So
Speaker 2: I rushed inside, grabbed my proper laptop, brought it out,
Speaker 2: and I thought, I won't need the power supply. We're
Speaker 2: only going to be talking for a short time. I'm
Speaker 2: going to do it. I was only you know, I
Speaker 2: was here at eight o'clock an hour just doing a
Speaker 2: bit more research. Jump into the show. Battery Life's about
Speaker 2: four hours easy, done two hours ago, no problem. So
Speaker 2: then I get this notification on my laptop about twenty
Speaker 2: minutes ago where it says power getting low. So I
Speaker 2: dimmed the screen to the point so dark I can't
Speaker 2: read anything of it, and I'm thinking, please please last
Speaker 2: for the duration of the show, and then it just
Speaker 2: went blank so it won't happen. My laptop went flat
Speaker 2: because I couldn't be bothered dragging the power supply out.
Speaker 1: All right, now it's nine point fifty two. I've got
Speaker 1: a ten ish, so we've got a ten minute window.
Speaker 1: You were telling us about if our Gmail is full,
Speaker 1: and what were you telling us, how we can get
Speaker 1: some more data or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we get fifteen gig of data and generally,
Speaker 2: over years and years of having a Gmail account, it
Speaker 2: just fills up. And you get to the point because
Speaker 2: I think we spoke once about having ten thousand emails
Speaker 2: in your inbox, that sort of thing. So you've got
Speaker 2: two choices. One is you pay for more storage or
Speaker 2: you delete a whole lot of stuff. There is a third. Yes,
Speaker 2: I can't quite read off your phone, but it's probably got.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it says. Twelve six hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty two emails I haven't opened, No.
Speaker 2: Wonder you never answered me?
Speaker 1: Is that bad?
Speaker 2: It's very bad. You know you've got inbox anxiety.
Speaker 1: I have no inbox anxiety. I don't fucking think about it.
Speaker 1: I have inbox indifference.
Speaker 2: I now have in box anxiety over your Phone's hilarious.
Speaker 2: So here's a really interesting hack that I saw on
Speaker 2: Seen It. All you've got to do is you just
Speaker 2: open up another free Google account, back up all of
Speaker 2: your old emails, throw them into the new account that
Speaker 2: you've set up, and then just go happily along wiping
Speaker 2: out all that storage and you've got free storage.
Speaker 1: Again that I do not know how to do that,
Speaker 1: but that sounds tippy. Know how to do that? It is?
Speaker 2: Actually yeah, you can just and you can Google it.
Speaker 2: It's not that hard to do to do a backup
Speaker 2: of your emails and back up of your data but effectively.
Speaker 1: But for our listeners are going, yep, can you slow
Speaker 1: that down, Patrick, because I need to tell them give
Speaker 1: them a like? So where do they go and what
Speaker 1: do they Google?
Speaker 2: So you what you initially, what you've got to do
Speaker 2: is open up a new Gmail account. So you go
Speaker 2: and get another free Google email and it could be
Speaker 2: Craig Harper's second email account at gmail dot com, right,
Speaker 2: and then Craigcarpers third, craigcarp is fourth and you might
Speaker 2: fill up your email in there, and then there is
Speaker 2: a process you can go to so how to back
Speaker 2: up my Gmail emails and then you just back them
Speaker 2: all up and reimport them to the other email account. Yeah,
Speaker 2: always a great hack. All right, that's it's useful.
Speaker 1: Let's you actually saved us some money today. Let's have
Speaker 1: you got another story for us something that's tickled. What
Speaker 1: about Russia finding Google twenty dacillion, which is twenty billion, trillion,
Speaker 1: trillion dollars? Why Russia so angry at Google?
Speaker 2: Everyone's angry at Google. Sometimes I just want to just
Speaker 2: see people know how much money we're talking about. It's
Speaker 2: actually twenty docillion dollars is thirty three zeros, so it's
Speaker 2: a twenty with thirty three zeros at the end. So
Speaker 2: this has been going on for about twenty so sorry
Speaker 2: about four years. And so what happened was originally the
Speaker 2: fine was for a one hundred thousand ruples and this
Speaker 2: was handed out to Google in twenty twenty after basically
Speaker 2: it was a lawsuit related to just certain restrictions on
Speaker 2: YouTube channels. But what happened was Google ignored it and
Speaker 2: then in Russia they double the bill every year, so
Speaker 2: basically that's why it got so big. So every every year, sorry,
Speaker 2: every second every day, so every day you don't pay
Speaker 2: the bill, it doubles.
Speaker 1: Wow, is there? What is there a deal for cash?
Speaker 1: Like Google? Was there an installment plan? Is there? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: It all related also to the invasion of Ukraine as well,
Speaker 2: so you know it all is tied in with that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so a decillion, twenty tazillion dollars. I mean
Speaker 2: I I saw it written down and I couldn't take it.
Speaker 2: I couldn't fathom that number. Try just try writing twenty
Speaker 2: and adding thirty three zeros and your brain starts to
Speaker 2: just phase out because it's just doing that now, Tiff,
Speaker 2: because it's just crazy.
Speaker 1: Speaking of wealth and tech, So the richest man in
Speaker 1: the world is about to become part of the new
Speaker 1: US government or the new like Donald Trump is put
Speaker 1: him on his team.
Speaker 2: Oh really, well yeah no.
Speaker 1: He can you just google? What is Elon Musk's new
Speaker 1: role going to be? It's like a can you get
Speaker 1: that cat out of my there's a cat on your keyboard?
Speaker 1: Could you? I Mean, I'm not really all over this,
Speaker 1: but I know that Elon Musk has been given a
Speaker 1: role in the fucking whatever it is? What's his new
Speaker 1: job on Donald Trump's team?
Speaker 2: Hey, wild tips looking that up. Just know that the
Speaker 2: most expensive or the most valuable company in the world
Speaker 2: now is a company called in Video. It's overtaken Apple.
Speaker 1: I saw that, and I've never heard of in Video,
Speaker 1: which doesn't matter. But I'm like, I would think the
Speaker 1: most valuable company in the world, I would have heard
Speaker 1: at least of the brand. What do they do?
Speaker 2: It's probably powering the micro chip inside your graphics card,
Speaker 2: So I always thought of in Video as a graphic
Speaker 2: card companies. They basically you need a card in your
Speaker 2: computer that powers the visual device, so that powers the screen,
Speaker 2: and that's in video makes lots of chips, so effectively
Speaker 2: it's a it's a computer chip manufacturer. People who are
Speaker 2: into gaming will all know in video they make really
Speaker 2: good video cards, which you need to be able to
Speaker 2: do really good high end gaming graphics. And if you
Speaker 2: work in the video space where you produce high end
Speaker 2: video or Pixar, the people that make all those animations,
Speaker 2: you would definitely know who in Video is and what
Speaker 2: in video does, So they're they're just a yeah chip manufacturer.
Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, did you did you find.
Speaker 3: It is the Department of Government Efficiency.
Speaker 1: He is the the head of the cheekily titled Department
Speaker 1: of Government Efficiency.
Speaker 2: What does that even mean?
Speaker 1: Which abbreviates to dodge.
Speaker 2: I like that they thought about that being just dodgy.
Speaker 1: That's funny. That's funny. There's one other thing I wanted
Speaker 1: you to just touch on quickly. Oh yeah, Melbourne Supermarket
Speaker 1: will be the first in the country to use AI
Speaker 1: powered smart trolleys. What how does what does that look like? Like?
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Well, practice trolley will literally have a screen on it
Speaker 2: and what it will mean is as you shop, it
Speaker 2: will what you're putting into the trolley. It will make
Speaker 2: it easier because you basically it scans everything as that
Speaker 2: goes into the trolley and you will be able to
Speaker 2: pay via your shopping trolley. You don't have to line
Speaker 2: up at the checkout. They're trialing. I think Cole's is
Speaker 2: going to be the ones that are going to try
Speaker 2: the smart trolley and they've teamed up with the American
Speaker 2: company but the sensors, so they're using this advanced AI
Speaker 2: and in built scales and senses. So if you put
Speaker 2: your fruit in theirge on, you can weigh them before
Speaker 2: you chuck them into the car as well, so you
Speaker 2: won't have to worry about ever needing to queue up.
Speaker 2: You've got spos built into it. It's got a digital
Speaker 2: screen you can browse specials while you're walking around the aisles.
Speaker 2: There's a little bit about it that kind of makes
Speaker 2: me think it's a bit sad because I go shopping
Speaker 2: on a after I talk my tai Chi class on
Speaker 2: a Wednesday night, and I go to two different supermarkets
Speaker 2: and one of them has self serve checkout. Well, they
Speaker 2: both do, and I like to talk to the checkout operator. Well,
Speaker 2: I'd like to talk full stop, as you know, but
Speaker 2: I don't mind lining up and having a chat. But
Speaker 2: when you're just check it out yourself. That didn't sound right.
Speaker 1: Did it.
Speaker 2: When they're checking out yourself, it's like a mirror list
Speaker 2: of a private moment. But that the other supermarket, when
Speaker 2: I go there, they don't have any registers that are
Speaker 2: they're all self served and they just have stuff standing
Speaker 2: there making sure you're not nicking stuff. So I think
Speaker 2: it's a little bit sad, particularly you know that we're
Speaker 2: not having that human interaction and now we don't even
Speaker 2: have to talk to anybody. They probably won't even have
Speaker 2: people at checkouts anymore. They'll just have security cameras. I
Speaker 2: think Amazon had the first automated shopping center, didn't it.
Speaker 2: We didn't have any people at all. You just walked in.
Speaker 1: And do you think so, I'm with you, Like I've
Speaker 1: got a wool Wars five hundred meters from my house
Speaker 1: and I've got an Ida fifty meters from my house.
Speaker 1: I go to IgA for ninety percent of my staff.
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's often cheaper than more worse.
Speaker 1: And no, I'm not sponsored by IgA, but a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff. You'd think I'll be way dearer because it's smaller,
Speaker 1: it ain't. And Shane, I fucking love Shane. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Shane who owns it, who's just a young dude
Speaker 1: with a wife and a kid, just fucking trying to
Speaker 1: make ends meet. And I love giving Shane money. I
Speaker 1: love going over going and he goes mate and we like.
Speaker 1: I know him, he knows me, he knows most of
Speaker 1: the customers' names. And it's just good. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit reminds me of my childhood. Where
Speaker 1: you go and buy groceries and the person you buying
Speaker 1: them from those who you are and you have a
Speaker 1: relationship and yeah, so I'm going to keep that. So
Speaker 1: I g A keep going, keep going, because all the
Speaker 1: fucking dinosaurs like me and Patrick, We're going to keep
Speaker 1: showing up. Tif. On the other hand, I do.
Speaker 3: I g do you IgA in food works in Ellwood?
Speaker 3: I like going him for a chat?
Speaker 1: I stand corrected. Thank you. See that's three out of three.
Speaker 1: I g A keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 2: So next time you go in there speaking to your buddy,
Speaker 2: call it iger. We call it I get down here.
Speaker 1: Why is that?
Speaker 2: I don't know, because that's what it spells ig.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's insane.
Speaker 2: It's not I've always called it IgA.
Speaker 1: Well, we could all call you Pa trick, but we
Speaker 1: don't call you Patrick because.
Speaker 2: You know, or if you haven't heard that, I've always
Speaker 2: called it iger.
Speaker 1: No, have you ever called an ig iger tiff negative? Yeah?
Speaker 2: The thing that they do just in my town, in
Speaker 2: Bewen rather than Bland.
Speaker 1: I think that is true. Patrick. How do people find you? Followy,
Speaker 1: connect with you, come and stay at your house for
Speaker 1: the weekend. You should do an AIRB and B. I
Speaker 1: should do like a you should do a weekend. This
Speaker 1: is what you should listen to me fucking telling you
Speaker 1: what you should do. Ignore this. But now that you've
Speaker 1: almost got your new Tay Cheese studio, I was going
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, you would have kicked me in the
Speaker 1: dick for picking the wrong martial art or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: the wrong art. Now that you've almost got your new
Speaker 1: Tay Cheese studio, you could have like a small little retreat,
Speaker 1: couldn't you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I could, I could.
Speaker 1: Could you be less enthusiastic?
Speaker 2: No, I will like in run little workshops. The plan
Speaker 2: is to run some little workshops. I do enjoy doing those,
Speaker 2: and you can focus. One of the things I like
Speaker 2: about doing tai chie workshops is you can focus on
Speaker 2: the finessing of the moves because tai chi is a
Speaker 2: very slow moving martial art, and you know, on the
Speaker 2: surface it looks pretty lame, you know, just people moving
Speaker 2: around slowly. But if you think of a karate move
Speaker 2: where you kicked somebody, that would happen in a fraction
Speaker 2: of a second. But if you do it in tai chi,
Speaker 2: you've got to focus all of your balance on one foot,
Speaker 2: you slowly lift up the other leg and you kick out.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of core stability to be able to
Speaker 2: get you to stand on one leg then extend the
Speaker 2: other leg, which is throwing your center of gravity out,
Speaker 2: and then letting it come back down again slowly. So
Speaker 2: there's a lot of strength in moving slowly. So answer
Speaker 2: your question. Yeah, it'd be great idea, Craigo, And you
Speaker 2: could come to and so could tip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could it. Hi, every one, welcome to tai
Speaker 1: Chi one oh one with Patrick. It's not a very
Speaker 1: good martial art, but fuck it's graceful. Other bloke's already
Speaker 1: kicked you in the face four times while you're moving
Speaker 1: your legs slowly in a horizontal position.
Speaker 2: I could release you to death. Craig, just watch yourself.
Speaker 1: Tell people how to find your son.
Speaker 2: How you go to websites now, dot com, dot au
Speaker 2: if you want to talk about websites and branding and
Speaker 2: logos and tai chi and anything, or just come up
Speaker 2: for the weekend, you know, just come up the weekend.
Speaker 1: Just come up. I'll tell you what. Someone is going
Speaker 1: to take you up on that. And you're going to
Speaker 1: get some fucking stalky stork stuff.
Speaker 3: What's that I'm going to take him up on it.
Speaker 2: There you go. Really we can do some puppy play
Speaker 2: dates because tips, I'm going.
Speaker 3: To rub my bike up on bringing the dog.
Speaker 1: Really okay, who's going to look after the dog? You
Speaker 1: had to look after it? Can just jomp over here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When you get back, her and I might be gone.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll say goodbye affair, but thank you both
Speaker 1: of you. Have a good day.
Speaker 2: Bye bye.