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Speaker 2: You can't do that. No one will know that the

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Speaker 1: They'll think I'm breaking with protocol. They know, they know

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Speaker 1: don't need mena Telement's to the fucking new project again.

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Speaker 1: They know.

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Speaker 3: Oh I thought it's Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you look like you're on the moon. You look

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Speaker 1: like you're in at the International Space Station, which is

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Speaker 1: I guess the look you're going for. And over your

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Speaker 1: I can see is that Earth below?

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Speaker 3: I can see, well a random planet below. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: just a backdrop that I've got for my little podcasting area.

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Speaker 2: Do you like it?

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Speaker 1: Well? I like it? Well, so that's not a screen thing,

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Speaker 3: It's an actual printed piece of material that shows a

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Speaker 3: view from a space real Yeah, yeah, it's real.

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Speaker 1: Seed.

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Speaker 2: Look Oh wow at it?

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Speaker 1: Like wow, that that is actually can you can you

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Speaker 1: was like a virtual background, like like yours, looks like

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Speaker 1: an actual background that doesn't have any of the U

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Speaker 3: That's all right. If I put a U Project sign

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Speaker 1: Yeah you can. Yeah, I tell you what you see

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Speaker 1: if you could get those global numbers, I tell you

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Speaker 1: and Jupiter and especially your Onus. You knew it was coming. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Tiff, good morning.

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? Like Patrick Sport is Patrick Sport Fritz Fritz's

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Speaker 4: Bear is off to the side in her little cat castle,

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Speaker 4: There's a fair chance that whilst she realizes I am busy,

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Speaker 1: What is the what do I don't know if psychology

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they do. They look like a little Joey's Patrick.

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Speaker 1: How's your week been?

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Speaker 3: How's my week been? I got to fly my drone,

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Speaker 1: Know where you're going, but I'm not going to open

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Speaker 1: What have you done? Have you been? Have you done

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Speaker 3: house with your electric car. It's like, really, actually you can,

436
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 3: by the way, I just thought i'd work that into

437
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: the store.

438
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: But how do you charge your car? Though?

439
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, look if you need it to now, Look,

440
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: this isn't It's interesting when you think about it. The

441
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: batteries inside electric cars are actually bigger than the batteries

442
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 3: used when people have power backups in their homes. So

443
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: if you've got a test wall, a power wall, it's

444
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 3: smaller than a battery inside a Tesla car. So it

445
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: makes perfect sense. And I didn't know this. I was

446
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: doing looking into this in an article I was reading,

447
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: and there's actually three different formats it's called. So there's

448
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 3: V two, G which is vehicle to the grid, V

449
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: two H, which is vehicle to the house, and then

450
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 3: V two L, which is vehicle to load.

451
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: And what it effectively means is that you can use

452
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: that car. I mean, I know I'm ignoring your question

453
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 2: silly now, but effectively it means that if there's a

454
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: power blackout, you could use your electric car to be

455
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: able to power your house, or if you go camping,

456
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: you can plug it into your car and be able

457
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: to run those items, or just actually use your car's

458
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: battery power to feed back into the grid and make

459
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 2: some money. So the reason that would work, I mean

460
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: for a lot of people who've got electric cars, or at

461
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 2: least the people that I know have got solar panels

462
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 2: as well, they're generating power and charging the car up.

463
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: But on a cloudy day, when you haven't got that

464
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: much power being charged, you could effectively be using your

465
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: car to feedback into the grid. So if you're not

466
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: going to be driving that day, you could use the

467
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: battery for something else, or if the power goes out.

468
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, well that makes total sense. And I

469
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: mean I think in certain situations that's going to be

470
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: a godsend, you know, But.

471
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 3: That feature isn't actually available so much in Australia. It's

472
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 3: only just recently that particularly, the vehicle to the grid

473
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: has only now been launched or is about to be

474
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: launched in Australia because it's way charging effectively. It's called

475
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: bidirectional charging, and a lot of the current cars don't

476
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: have that capacity, or at least the charging stations don't

477
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: have that capacity. So this is regulations have to be

478
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 3: put in place, and the Climate Change Ministry here in

479
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: Australia has just approved the idea of vehicle to the

480
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: grid and it means by Christmas people who have their

481
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: electric cars will be able to then use that to

482
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: be able to power back into the grid, which could

483
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: be quite useful.

484
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: Hey, yes, I agree, I'm just reading here. One of

485
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: your one of your dot points for our discussion today

486
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: is goodbye annoying touch screens, welcome back buttons. Thank god

487
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: if that happens, because I'm a fucking t rex, so

488
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm on board. I'm all in right before you tell

489
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: us about that. You know how we have like the

490
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: iPhone fucking twenty eight which you can land the space

491
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: shuttle and you know, cure cancer with right, We've got that.

492
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: But then at the other end of the scale, we've

493
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: got really fundamental phones that we can use as essentially

494
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: a phone to make calls, get calls. And where did

495
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: he go to? Is he going?

496
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 4: You can still here, but he just gets up and leaves.

497
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: That's okay. So but you know how we've got super

498
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: capable phones and then super fundamental phones, right, and we've

499
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: also got you know, digital music recorded incredibly and we've

500
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: got LPs which we put on a record player. Right,

501
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: so we've got all ends of the scale. My question

502
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: to you is, do you think or my idea is

503
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: I reckon they should produce a car, and of course

504
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: there's got to be some tech, but a low tech

505
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: car where you don't need to be a fucking genius

506
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: to use it. You know, it's almost like the analog car.

507
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: You know, there's a wireless do you turn the button on.

508
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: For the air?

509
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: You know there's a radio, you turn the knob. Is

510
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: anyone like that's what my mom needs? I'm scared to

511
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: she's probably not going to have another car. But even

512
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: the last car I bought her, it's it's a Suzuki

513
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: Swift that's not exactly a fucking Tesla but it's almost

514
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: over In fact, it is over ahead eighty percent of

515
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: what that car can do, you know, because she can

516
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: make phone calls automatically just talking to the car, and

517
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: adaptive you know, cruise control and what do you think Patrick,

518
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: a low key, analogue basic car, but for like fifteen

519
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: grand look.

520
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 2: Yes and no. I'm going to answer yes and no.

521
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: The reason of the yes and no is because there's

522
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 3: so much more safety features built into new cars. Lane assist,

523
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: adaptive cruise control, all those sort of things are really

524
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 3: good because it makes it safer on the roads. However, yes,

525
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: bring back the knobs. And Hyundai, Porsche Volkswagen they are

526
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: thinking about doing just that. In fact, Hyundai Design North

527
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: America vice president, a guard by the name of Ha Haksu,

528
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: has basically said that they have talked to their customers

529
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 3: and the customers are saying, we need to go back

530
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: to knobs.

531
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: We need to go back to those.

532
00:28:53,120 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: Wow, you would have breed the sireh relief. Yeah, that's

533
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: good knobs, it is everyone. Yeah, so stand by.

534
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the knobs.

535
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: Can't wait? Can't wait? Keep going?

536
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 4: Oh?

537
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: You want me to keep going? After you threw us

538
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: all under.

539
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: The I didn't throw anyone under the bus. I didn't

540
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: you like literally it's oh no, that's going to say

541
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: knobs are back. That was the bloody headline. So but

542
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: actually i'm reading it. It's buttons, buttons and knobs coming

543
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: back soon.

544
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: Here's here's an amazing story, and.

545
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: We'll be the judge.

546
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: Power over Skinned.

547
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: Don't oversell it. Don't oversell it. Next time. Go here's

548
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: a pretty fucking boring story. And if it's good, we'll

549
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: be impressed. But when you go this is amazing, you've

550
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: set our sights too high. So start again, Start again.

551
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: This group of nerds, these boffins at the researchers at

552
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: the Future Interfaces Group, have come up with wearable tech.

553
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: It's called power over Skin, right, and it doesn't take batteries.

554
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: It uses your.

555
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: Bodies r F frequency to power these devices.

556
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't even know what RF frequency is. What is that?

557
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: Okay? What is that?

558
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: The body has natural RF energy. It's small basically because

559
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: our body releases electrical impulses when we move. Okay, that's

560
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: releasing RF energy. And they're saying they can harness the

561
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: power of RF energy, which would allow very very tiny

562
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: devices to be powered by contact with the skin, So

563
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: I've got it.

564
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: What about sorry? What about this for an idea? Because

565
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: you know, a calorie is a calories energy, right, yep,

566
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: Excess calories are stored in fat. Imagine if we could

567
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: run our home from our guts.

568
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: So Craig could powry his house by his fat.

569
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, excess fat. Imagine if you all your wearables

570
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: were running off, you're at a post tissue. Sorry mate,

571
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: keep going and apologies to the listeners. I know this

572
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: is bad, even as we're in the middle of it.

573
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: I recognize how bad it is, but it could get better,

574
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: so stick around.

575
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

576
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, These researchers at Carnegie Mellon University of talking about

577
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: using RF transmission, So maybe it might be a bluetooth

578
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: ring or a medical patch for tracking.

579
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: Health data sun exposure.

580
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: So if you could think of a little patch you'd

581
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: have on your hand when you've been out in the

582
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: sun for too long, it would tell you that you

583
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: know you're risking getting burned. I think it could be

584
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: pretty cool to do that. And the fact that we

585
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 3: then don't have disposable batteries, no more land waste all

586
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff landfill waste, I just thought pretty cool.

587
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could do that. That is all silliness aside.

588
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: That would be fucking amazing.

589
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's lots of phone I mean. The good

590
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: thing is that technology has got so much better. Remember

591
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: you know, remember when you used to have light bulbs

592
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: that heat it up, and the problem was they took

593
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: up so much energy, and then they were replaced with LEDs.

594
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: The LEDs don't cause heat. They tend to expel light

595
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: rather than lots of heat. And the problem with old

596
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: light bulbs is that you used so much energy to

597
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: power the filament. It caused heat and that's what used

598
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: up lots of the power, not so much of the

599
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: light that it was producing. So yeah, there's a lot

600
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: to be said about it. I don't know if it's

601
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: a seguay as such, But do you have an air tag?

602
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: If either of you guys ever used air tags.

603
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, so I'm going to

604
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: go with no.

605
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: Okay, So at air tag, you put it in your

606
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 3: luggage or you put it on your car keys, and

607
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: that way when you can't find your stuff, you can

608
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: use your phone to find it. Apple's got their air tag,

609
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: there's the equivalent on Android. They've got tiles, that sort

610
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: of stuff. But for the first time, Apple and Quantus

611
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: are going to part nor up and they're going to

612
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: use air tag bag tracking, which means you'll be able

613
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: to know where your bag is at all times, when

614
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 3: it's got off the plane and all that sort of stuff.

615
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: I mean, you can kind of do that now, but

616
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: by supporting it and teaming up, it means it's going

617
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: to be a much better tracking system, so lot a

618
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 3: lot less chance of things going missing, and if they do,

619
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: they can find them really rapidly.

620
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: I thought that was kind of cool.

621
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: Because I need that. I need that. Patrick, how much

622
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: do you know how much that is?

623
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: Take overall?

624
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: There's nothing an air tag maybe thirty bucks or less

625
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: twenty five?

626
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you can track it off.

627
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: I think I didn't know what they were called, but

628
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: I think I knew about them. But I so tif

629
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: no pressure. But Christmas is coming.

630
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 4: So well, we start wearing the headphones I last bought you,

631
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 4: or think about gifts or gifts, but you don't seem

632
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 4: to put them to good use, just saying.

633
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: Well, okay, sure that's valid. No, it's worth it to

634
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: Shay too. Shay, good point. Okay, forget that. But you

635
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: know what's interesting, Patrick Jones, is like this intersection of

636
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: biology and technology is just becoming more and more, isn't it.

637
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: You know, with like you're talking about our body powering

638
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: these things, you know, and you know, neural link and

639
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: all that kind of Yeah, it's becoming more and more

640
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: a symbiotic relationship between you know, biology and technology producing

641
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: something more evolved. Maybe I don't know it's more or

642
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: less evolved, but interesting.

643
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: But we were talking not long ago in one of

644
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: the shows about a company that was developing augmented reality technology.

645
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: But instead of wearing glasses so you can see an

646
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: overlay of tech in front of you, so it might

647
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 3: be giving you directions when you're walking down the street,

648
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: they're talking about putting contact lenses and having contact lenses. Now,

649
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: if you think about this new tech, if you could

650
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: use RF technology and your own body can power the

651
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: electronic devices that you're putting on your eye to be

652
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: able to have little tiny screens that allow you to

653
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 3: be it's not obtrusive. It means you don't have to

654
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 3: wear glasses and you could be walking down the street

655
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: and getting all this analytic information, you know, just hovering

656
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 3: in the air in front of you.

657
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: Your new car has heads up display, doesn't it.

658
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. That's exactly what I was thinking of

659
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: when you said that. I'm just imagine how much that

660
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: would fuck with your mind and brain at the start,

661
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: where you could pull up Google, you know, and you're

662
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: staring off into space and someone's like, what are you doing, bro,

663
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm just looking up a word. Look what I'm just

664
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: checking the stock market.

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00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: It's really funny though, Craigo if you had Tinder on

666
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: there and you swipe left or right and then you

667
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: slapped someone in the face because you thought that it

668
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: was swiping.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, definitely don't look at pauln when you're on

670
00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: the train, just saying you know that. But that would

671
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: have to be I can't see that ever being legalized

672
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons, probably the main reason being driving.

673
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: Imagine driving, but you've also got other shit coming up

674
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: in your vision other than the road ahead of you.

675
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: How do you control that? I mean, I see people

676
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: as I do a lot of driving at the moment,

677
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 3: and I know you do certainly do as well. I

678
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: would in a drive to Melbourne in an hour, I

679
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 3: would I reckon comfortably see three people on their phones.

680
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: Ah, of course easily.

681
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: You know, like what's yeah, I'm with you. I mean,

682
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: obviously I would think all three of us. Our phone

683
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: just goes through our car. I don't even have to

684
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: just go call Patrick and the car calls Patrick. Even

685
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: in my old little cheap car, it still does the same, right.

686
00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: But but I think, you know, like turning, turning something

687
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: on where you've got to take your eyes off the

688
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: road and look at whatever it is, the panel, the like,

689
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: that's that's not like it's not illegal to turn the

690
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: heater on or the air conditioning on, or to change

691
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: the channel while you're driving. But otherwise you wouldn't have

692
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: that capacity. It would disable that as soon as the

693
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: start the car started moving. But yeah, I think of

694
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: course talking on you know, look holding your phone, looking

695
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: at your phone, using your phone, per se stupid. But

696
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: I think there are other things that happen in a

697
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: car that are just as Like is it illegal to

698
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: drink a glass of orange juice while you're driving or

699
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: a coffee from Macers? It's not illegal, is it. Well,

700
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: you've got to put that back in the cup holder

701
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: where you're not doing that blind. You've got to look

702
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: at it. You've got to put it in. Then you've

703
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: got to take your eyes off the road to reach

704
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: over and get it. I don't know. There's just a

705
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: lot of things that happen in a car that to

706
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: me seem equally distracting, as you know, talking on a

707
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: phone or picking up He's gone again, Tim.

708
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: I haven't gone. I'm right here. But talking about legality,

709
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: how about this one.

710
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 3: You're driving in your car, you drive through a drive

711
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 3: through at a Macka's or whatever, and you pay with

712
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: your phone. Well, technically you've just broken the law because

713
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: the car is running, you're sitting behind the vehicle, it's

714
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 3: not parked, and you've just used your phone to pay.

715
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: You could sit if you were you're with the Boys

716
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 3: in Blue. You could sit at a takeout and just

717
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: fine every person who goes through the drive through. But

718
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: that's technically right, isn't it.

719
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: Page. I'm not that familiar with the leg out, but

720
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: it probably probably technically. But the boys and girls in

721
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: Blue in Victoria are having a bit of a holiday

722
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: at the moment. Anyway, you so do your best. They

723
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: were yesterday, I think. By the way, shout out to

724
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: vic pol do great work.

725
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: Amazing they're fantastic.

726
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: That is that is a fucking not only is that

727
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: a tough job, but also it's like, I don't know

728
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: why with some people police are unpopular. What do you

729
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: try a world without police. Let's give that a go.

730
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: Let's see how let's see how anarchy works for you.

731
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: They're unpopular until something happens, they've broken down by the

732
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: side of the road or someone's broken into their house,

733
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: and certainly they need them, and then they're their best friends.

734
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's a perspective thing, but I've been

735
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: fortunate in my career as a journalist, and also I've

736
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: got many friends over the years who I've managed to

737
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: interact with who are police, and I see what they

738
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: go through. I know you are in the same boat

739
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 3: with You've had lots of friends over the years who

740
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: have worked in the industry, have been members. And I

741
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 3: think it's an altruistic thing that people do when they

742
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: want to be in an industry that services people, whether

743
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: they work in the armed forces or they happen to

744
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: an ambulance officer or a police officer.

745
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: So much respect for those people.

746
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 1: I think all of those face you know, those people.

747
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: Let the nurses doctors paramout all of those and that

748
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: is that is apart from the fact that what cops

749
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: do is high risk. I mean, you know, they see

750
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: a lot of shit that humans probably shouldn't see or

751
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: were definitely not built to see. They see a lot

752
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: of shit. And you don't clock off at five o'clock

753
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: and the shit stays at work, like you take this

754
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: shit home. That's a whole different episode. But yeah, whatever

755
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: they get paid, it ain't enough.

756
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: And nurses and teachers, yeah the list, Ye, all right,

757
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: next patrickaving your money Crago. Here's a pack that I

758
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: read in c neet an article, And if you have

759
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: a Gmail account, you've got fifteen gigabytes of storage, which

760
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 3: is a reasonable amount of storage. But because there are

761
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: literally billions of people who are on Gmail, who you

762
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: have Google accounts, they cap it at fifteen gig What

763
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 3: that then means is, once you've filled up that space,

764
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: you've only got the only option you've got is to

765
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 3: delet stuff or to then pay a subscription to increase

766
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: the memory storage.

767
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:06,479
Speaker 2: But there is an.

768
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: Oh, and Patrick's gone. We'll be back with normal programming

769
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: in just one minute. TIV. Let's just keep Let's just

770
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: keep talking and let's leave this in because what happened

771
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: just then, everyone is Patrick just disappeared off the screen,

772
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: and considering.

773
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 4: His whole login failed, he didn't get up this time

774
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 4: and leave.

775
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, no, no, he's just okay. Just did

776
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: you just lean on a button that you shouldn't have?

777
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: No, I didn't lean on a button that I should have.

778
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm trying to connect you to my

779
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: road cast. To give me two seconds, can you hear me?

780
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: It is? It sounds a little bit like you're in

781
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: a phone booth now, but that's okay.

782
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: No, No, that's because I haven't connected to my device.

783
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: I see, give me two seconds.

784
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: Leave all this in, Tiff. This is great. This is

785
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: the organic nature of podcasts. Fuck, there's no editing, there's

786
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: no fluff. Yes, and his back. Hello, Yeah, no, i

787
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm back that I'm back on my phone.

788
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: I'm trying to connect you to my road caster, right.

789
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: That is why your audio is rock solid.

790
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 3: Sc Give me a few seconds and I'll be able

791
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: to get it all back on again.

792
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 2: God, and we're back.

793
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: You didn't even know where were gone because Tiff is

794
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: so fucking brilliant at editing. But we're back because Patrick's

795
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: Internet did a big poo.

796
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: And as the Internet, what was it?

797
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 4: Well?

798
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: Can I just say that for the last fifteen minutes,

799
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: I have suffered the equivalent of range anxiety. Go on,

800
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 3: so we know what range anxiety is. Right when you

801
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: driving this? We do?

802
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: We do? You think?

803
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: In my battery down to five percent and I've still

804
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: going to go one hundred kilometers.

805
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: Yes.

806
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 3: So I've set up in the studio in my new

807
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: studio area in my garage, right, and I have everything

808
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 3: set up, and I got an old laptop, and I

809
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: was going to podcast with the old laptop and realized

810
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 3: that it wasn't connecting properly.

811
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 2: It was too old.

812
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 3: So I rushed inside, grabbed my proper laptop, brought it out,

813
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 3: and I thought, I won't need the power supply. We're

814
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 3: only going to be talking for a short time.

815
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it.

816
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 3: I was only you know, I was here at eight

817
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: o'clock an hour just doing a bit more research. Jump

818
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: into the show. Battery life's about four hours easy, done

819
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: two hours ago, no problem. So then I get this

820
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: notification on my laptop about twenty minutes ago where it

821
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: says power getting low. So I dimmed the screen to

822
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 3: the point so dark I can't read anything of it,

823
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, please, please last for the duration of

824
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: the show.

825
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 2: And then it just went blank so it won't happen.

826
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: My laptop went flat because I couldn't be bothered dragging.

827
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 2: The power supply out.

828
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: All right, now it's nine point fifty two. I've got

829
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: a ten ish, so we've got a ten minute window.

830
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: You were telling us about if our Gmail is full,

831
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: and what were you telling us, how we can get

832
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: some more data or something.

833
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we get fifteen gig of data and generally,

834
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 3: over years and years of having a Gmail account, it

835
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: just fills up. And you get to the point because

836
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: I think we spoke once about having ten thousand emails

837
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 3: in your.

838
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 2: Inbox, that sort of thing. So you've got two choices.

839
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 3: One is you pay for more storage or you delete

840
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: a whole lot of stuff. There is a third. Yes,

841
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: I can't quite read off your phone, but it's probably got.

842
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it says. Twelve six hundred and

843
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: eighty two emails I haven't opened.

844
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: No wonder you never answered me.

845
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: Is that bad?

846
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: It's very bad. You know you've got inbox anxiety.

847
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: I have no inbox anxiety. I don't fucking think about it.

848
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: I have inbox indifference.

849
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: I now have in box anxiety over your Phone's hilarious.

850
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: So here's a really interesting hack that I saw on

851
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: seen It. All you've got to do is you just

852
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 3: open up another free Google account, back up all of

853
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 3: your old emails, throw them into the new account that

854
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: you've set up, and then just go happily along wiping

855
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: out all that storage and you've got free storage again.

856
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: That I do not know how to do that, but

857
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: that sounds tippy. Know how to do that? It is?

858
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: Actually yeah, you can just and you can Google it.

859
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 3: It's not that hard to do to do a backup

860
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: of your emails and back up of your data but effectively.

861
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 1: But for our listeners are going, yep, can you slow

862
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: that down, Patrick, because I need to tell them give

863
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: them a like? So where do they go? And what

864
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: do they Google?

865
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 3: So you what you initially, what you've got to do

866
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 3: is open up a new Gmail account. So you go

867
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: and get another free Google email and it could be

868
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: Craig Harper's second email account at gmail dot com, right,

869
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: and then Craigcarpers third.

870
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: Craigcarp Is fourth.

871
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Speaker 3: And you might fill up your email in there, and

872
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: then there is a process you can go to so

873
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: how to back up my Gmail emails and then you

874
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: just back them all up and reimport them to the

875
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 3: other email account.

876
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, always a great hack. All right, that's it's useful.

877
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: Let's you actually saved us some money today. Let's have

878
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: you got another story for us something that's tickled. What

879
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: about Russia finding Google twenty dacillion, which is twenty billion, trillion,

880
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: trillion dollars. Why Russia so angry at Google?

881
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 2: Everyone's angry at Google.

882
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: Sometimes I just want to just see people know how

883
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: much money we're talking about. It's actually twenty docillion dollars

884
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 3: is thirty three zeros, so it's a twenty with thirty

885
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,479
Speaker 3: three zeros at the end. So this has been going

886
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: on for about twenty so sorry about four years. And

887
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 3: so what happened was originally the fine was for a

888
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand ruples and this was handed out to

889
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: Google in twenty twenty after basically it was a lawsuit

890
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 3: related to just certain restrictions on YouTube channels. But what

891
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 3: happened was Google ignored it and then in Russia they

892
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: double the bill every year so basically that's why it

893
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: got so big. So every every year, sorry, every second,

894
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: every day, so every day you don't pay the bill,

895
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 3: it doubles.

896
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: Wow, is there? What is there a deal for cash?

897
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: Like Google? Was there an installment plan? Is there? Yeah? Yeah?

898
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: It all related also to the invasion of Ukraine as well,

899
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: so you know it all.

900
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: Is tied in with that. But yeah, so a decillion,

901
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: twenty tazillion dollars.

902
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: I mean I I saw it written down and I

903
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 3: couldn't take it. I couldn't fathom that number. Try just

904
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 3: try writing twenty and adding thirty three zeros and your

905
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,959
Speaker 3: brain starts to just phase out because it's just doing

906
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 3: that now, Tiff, because it's just crazy.

907
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: Speaking of wealth and tech. So the richest man in

908
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: the world is about to become part of the new

909
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: US government or the new like Donald Trump is put

910
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: him on his team. Oh really, well yeah no he

911
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 1: can you just google? What is Elon Musk's new role

912
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: going to be? It's like a can you get that

913
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: cat out of my there's a cat on your keyboard?

914
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: Could you? I Mean, I'm not really all over this,

915
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: but I know that Elon Musk has been given a

916
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: role in the fucking whatever it is? What's his new

917
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: job on Donald Trump's team?

918
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 3: Hey, wild tips looking that up. Just know that the

919
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: most expensive or the most valuable company in the world

920
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: now is a company called in Video.

921
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: It's overtaken Apple.

922
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: I saw that, and I've never heard of in Video,

923
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: which doesn't matter. But I'm like, I would think the

924
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: most valuable company in the world, I would have heard

925
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: at least of the brand. What do they do?

926
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 3: It's probably powering the micro chip inside your graphics card,

927
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: So I always thought of in Video as a graphic

928
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 3: card companies. They basically you need a card in your

929
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 3: computer that powers the visual device, so that powers the screen,

930
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: and that's in video makes lots of chips, so effectively

931
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: it's a it's a computer chip manufacturer. People who are

932
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 3: into gaming will all know in video they make really

933
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 3: good video cards, which you need to be able to

934
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 3: do really good high end gaming graphics. And if you

935
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 3: work in the video space where you produce high end

936
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 3: video or Pixar, the people that make all those animations,

937
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: you would definitely know who in Video is and what

938
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: in video does, So they're they're just a yeah chip manufacturer.

939
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, did you did you find.

940
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 4: It is the Department of Government Efficiency.

941
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: He is the the head of the cheekily titled Department

942
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: of Government Efficiency.

943
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 2: What does that even mean?

944
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: Which abbreviates to dodge.

945
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: I like that they thought about that being just dodgy.

946
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,959
Speaker 1: That's funny. That's funny. There's one other thing I wanted

947
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: you to just touch on quickly. Oh yeah, Melbourne Supermarket

948
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: will be the first in the country to use AI

949
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: powered smart trolleys. What how does what does that look like? Like?

950
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

951
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: Well, practice trolley will literally have a screen on it

952
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: and what it will mean is as you shop, it

953
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 3: will what you're putting into the trolley. It will make

954
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 3: it easier because you basically it scans everything as that

955
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: goes into the trolley and you will be able to

956
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: pay via your shopping trolley.

957
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: You don't have to line up at the checkout. They're trialing.

958
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: I think Cole's is going to be the ones that

959
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 3: are going to try the smart trolley and they've teamed

960
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: up with the American company but the sensors, so they're

961
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: using this advanced AI and in built scales and senses.

962
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: So if you put your fruit in theirge on, you

963
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 3: can weigh them before you chuck them into the car

964
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 3: as well, so you won't have to worry about ever

965
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 3: needing to queue up. You've got spos built into it.

966
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 3: It's got a digital screen you can browse specials while

967
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 3: you're walking around the aisles. There's a little bit about

968
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 3: it that kind of makes me think it's a bit

969
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 3: sad because I go shopping on a after I talk

970
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 3: my tai Chi class on a Wednesday night, and I

971
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: go to two different supermarkets and one of them has

972
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 3: self serve checkout. Well, they both do, and I like

973
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 3: to talk to the checkout operator. Well, I'd like to

974
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 3: talk full stop, as you know, but I don't mind

975
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 3: lining up and having a chat. But when you're just

976
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: check it out yourself. That didn't sound right.

977
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: Did it.

978
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 3: When they're checking out yourself, it's like a mirror list

979
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 3: of a private moment. But that the other supermarket, when

980
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 3: I go there, they don't have any registers that are

981
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: they're all self served and they just have stuff standing

982
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 3: there making sure you're not nicking stuff. So I think

983
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 3: it's a little bit sad, particularly you know that we're

984
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 3: not having that human interaction and now we don't even

985
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 3: have to talk to anybody. They probably won't even have

986
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: people at checkouts anymore. They'll just have security cameras. I

987
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 3: think Amazon had the first automated shopping center, didn't it.

988
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 3: We didn't have any people at all. You just walked in.

989
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: And do you think so? I'm with you, Like I've

990
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: got a wool Wars five hundred meters from my house,

991
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: and I've got an Ida fifty meters from my house.

992
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: I go to IgA for ninety percent of my staff.

993
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's often cheaper than more worse.

994
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: And no, I'm not sponsored by IgA, but a lot

995
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 1: of stuff. You'd think I'll be way dearer because it's smaller,

996
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: it ain't. And Shane, I fucking love Shane. Shout out

997
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: to Shane who owns it, who's just a young dude

998
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: with a wife and a kid, just fucking trying to

999
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: make ends meet. And I love giving Shane money. I

1000
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: love going over going and he goes mate and we like.

1001
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: I know him, he knows me, he knows most of

1002
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: the customers' names. And it's just good. I'm with you.

1003
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,959
Speaker 1: It's a little bit reminds me of my childhood, where

1004
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: you go and buy groceries and the person you buying

1005
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: them from those who you are and you have a

1006
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: relationship and yeah, so I'm going to keep that. So

1007
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: I g A keep going, keep going, because all the

1008
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: fucking dinosaurs like me and Patrick, we're going to keep

1009
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: showing up. Tip. On the other hand, I do.

1010
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 4: I g do you IgA in food works in Ellwood?

1011
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 4: I like going him for a chat?

1012
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: I stand corrected. Thank you. See that's three out of three.

1013
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: I g A keep doing what you're doing.

1014
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 3: So next time you go in there speaking to your buddy,

1015
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: call it iger. We call it I get down here.

1016
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: Why is that?

1017
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, because that's what it spells ig.

1018
00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's insane.

1019
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: It's not I've always called it IgA.

1020
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: Well, we could all call you Pa trick, but we

1021
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: don't call you Patrick because you know.

1022
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: Or if you haven't heard that, I've always called it iger.

1023
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: No, have you ever called an ig iger tiff negative? Yeah?

1024
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 3: The thing that they do just in my town, in

1025
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 3: Bewen rather than Bland.

1026
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: I think that is true. Patrick. How do people find you? Followy,

1027
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: connect with you, come and stay at your house for

1028
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: the weekend. You should do an AIRB and B. I

1029
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: should do like a you should do a weekend. This

1030
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: is what you should listen to me fucking telling you

1031
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: what you should do. Ignore this. But now that you've

1032
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: almost got your new Tay Cheese studio, I was going

1033
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, you would have kicked me in the

1034
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: dick for picking the wrong martial art or whatever it is,

1035
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: the wrong art. Now that you've almost got your new

1036
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: tay Cheese studio, you could have like a small little retreat,

1037
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: couldn't you? Yeah?

1038
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: I could, I could.

1039
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: Could you be less enthusiastic?

1040
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: No, I will like in run little workshops. The plan

1041
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 3: is to run some little workshops. I do enjoy doing

1042
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 3: those and you can focus. One of the things I

1043
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 3: like about doing tai chie workshops is you can focus

1044
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 3: on the finessing of the moves because tai chi is

1045
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 3: a very slow moving martial art, and you know, on

1046
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 3: the surface it looks pretty lame, you know, just people

1047
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 3: moving around slowly. But if you think of a karate

1048
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 3: move where you kicked somebody, that would happen in a

1049
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 3: fraction of a second. But if you do it in

1050
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 3: tai chi, you've got to focus all of your balance

1051
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 3: on one foot, you slowly lift up the other leg

1052
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 3: and you kick out. That's a lot of core stability

1053
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: to be able to get you to stand on one

1054
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 3: leg then extend the other leg, which is throwing your

1055
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 3: center of gravity out, and then letting it come back

1056
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 3: down again slowly. So there's a lot of strength in

1057
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 3: moving slowly. So answer your question. Yeah, it'd be great idea,

1058
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 3: Crago and you could come to and so ad tip.

1059
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could it. Hi, every one, welcome to tai

1060
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: Chi one oh one with Patrick. It's not a very

1061
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: good martial art, but fuck it's graceful. Other bloke's already

1062
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: kicked you in the face four times while you're moving

1063
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: your legs slowly in a horizontal position.

1064
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: I could relax you to death.

1065
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: Craig, just watch yourself. Tell people how to find your son.

1066
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 3: How you go to websites now, dot com, dot au

1067
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 3: if you want to talk about websites and branding and logos.

1068
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: And tai chi and anything, or just come.

1069
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 3: Up for the weekend, you know, just come up the weekend.

1070
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: Just come up. I'll tell you what. Someone is going

1071
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: to take you up on that. And you're going to

1072
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: get some fucking stalky stork stuff.

1073
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 4: What's that I'm going to take him up on?

1074
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: It there you go.

1075
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 3: Really we can have some puppy play dates because tips,

1076
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 3: I'm going.

1077
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 4: To rub my bike up on bringing the dog.

1078
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: Really okay, who's going to look after the dog?

1079
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 4: You had to look after it?

1080
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: Can just jomp over here. Yeah. When you get back,

1081
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: her and I might be gone. All right, we'll say

1082
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: goodbye affair, but thank you both of you. Have a

1083
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: good day.

1084
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 3: Bye bye.