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Speaker 2: You can't do that. No one will know that the

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Speaker 1: They'll think I'm breaking with protocol. They know, they know

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Speaker 1: don't need mena Telement's to the fucking new project again.

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Speaker 1: They know.

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Speaker 2: Oh I thought it's Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you look like you're on the moon. You look

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Speaker 1: like you're in at the International Space Station, which is

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Speaker 1: I guess the look you're going for. And over your

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Speaker 1: I can see is that Earth below?

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Speaker 2: I can see, well a random planet below. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: just a backdrop that I've got for my little podcasting area.

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Speaker 1: Well? I like it? Well, so that's not a screen thing,

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Speaker 2: It's an actual printed piece of material that shows a

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Speaker 2: view from a space real Yeah, yeah, it's real.

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Speaker 2: Look Oh wow at it?

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Speaker 1: Like wow, that that is actually can you can you

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Speaker 1: being paid right now to represent the U Project. That's

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Speaker 2: If I put a U Project sign on the back

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Speaker 1: Yeah you can. Yeah, I tell you what you see

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Speaker 1: if you could get those global numbers, I tell you

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Speaker 1: what Mars. The numbers have been really down on Mars

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Tiff, good morning.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? Like Patrick Sport is Patrick Sport Fritz Fritz's

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Speaker 3: There's a fair chance that whilst she realizes I am busy,

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Speaker 1: What is the what do I don't know if psychology

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Speaker 1: How's your week been?

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Speaker 2: How's my week been? I got to fly my drone,

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Speaker 1: What have you done? Have you been? Have you done

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Speaker 2: used when people have power backups in their homes. So

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00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: if you've got a test wall, a power wall, it's

434
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 2: smaller than a battery inside a Tesla car. So it

435
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: makes perfect sense. And I didn't know this. I was

436
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: doing looking into this in an article I was reading,

437
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: and there's actually three different formats it's called. So there's

438
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 2: V two, G which is vehicle to the grid, V

439
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: two H, which is vehicle to the house, and then

440
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: V two L, which is vehicle to load. And what

441
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,239
Speaker 2: it effectively means is that you can use that car.

442
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I know I'm ignoring your question silly now,

443
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: but effectively it means that if there's a power blackout,

444
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: you could use your electric car to be able to

445
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: power your house, or if you go camping, you can

446
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: plug it into your car and be able to run

447
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: those items, or just actually use your car's battery power

448
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 2: to feed back into the grid and make some money.

449
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: So the reason that would work, I mean for a

450
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: lot of people who've got electric cars, or at least the

451
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: people that I know have got solar panels as well,

452
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: they're generating power and charging the car up. But on

453
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 2: a cloudy day, when you haven't got that much power

454
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: being charged, you could effectively be using your car to

455
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: feedback into the grid. So if you're not going to

456
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: be driving that day, you could use the battery for

457
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: something else, or if the power goes out.

458
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, well that makes total sense. And I

459
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: mean I think in certain situations that's going to be

460
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: a godsend, you know, But.

461
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: That feature isn't actually available so much in Australia. It's

462
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: only just recently that particularly, the vehicle to the grid

463
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: has only now been launched or is about to be

464
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: launched in Australia because it's way charging effectively. It's called

465
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: bidirectional charging, and a lot of the current cars don't

466
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: have that capacity, or at least the charging stations don't

467
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: have that capacity. So this is regulations have to be

468
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 2: put in place, and the Climate Change Ministry here in

469
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: Australia has just approved the idea of vehicle to the

470
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: grid and it means by Christmas people who have their

471
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: electric cars will be able to then use that to

472
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: be able to power back into the grid, which could

473
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: be quite useful.

474
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: Hey, yes, I agree, I'm just reading here. One of

475
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: your one of your dot points for our discussion today

476
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: is goodbye annoying touch screens, welcome back buttons. Thank god

477
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: if that happens, because I'm a fucking t rex, so

478
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm on board. I'm all in right before you tell

479
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: us about that. You know how we have like the

480
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: iPhone fucking twenty eight which you can land the space

481
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: shuttle and you know, cure cancer with right, We've got that.

482
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: But then at the other end of the scale, we've

483
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: got really fundamental phones that we can use as essentially

484
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: a phone to make calls, get calls. And where did

485
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: he go to? Is he going?

486
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: You can still here, but he just gets up and leaves.

487
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: That's okay. So but you know how we've got super

488
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: capable phones and then super fundamental phones, right, and we've

489
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: also got you know, digital music recorded incredibly and we've

490
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: got LPs which we put on a record player. Right,

491
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: so we've got all ends of the scale. My question

492
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: to you is, do you think or my idea is

493
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: I reckon they should produce a car, and of course

494
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: there's got to be some tech, but a low tech

495
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: car where you don't need to be a fucking genius

496
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: to use it. You know, it's almost like the analog car.

497
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: You know, there's a wireless do you turn the button

498
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: on for the air? You know there's a radio, you

499
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: turn the knob. Is anyone like that's what my mom needs?

500
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm scared to she's probably not going to have another car.

501
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: But even the last car I bought her, it's it's

502
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: a Suzuki Swift that's not exactly a fucking Tesla but

503
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: it's almost over In fact, it is over ahead eighty

504
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: percent of what that car can do, you know, because

505
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: she can make phone calls automatically just talking to the car,

506
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: and adaptive you know, cruise control and what do you

507
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: think Patrick, a low key, analogue basic car, but for

508
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: like fifteen grand look.

509
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 2: Yes and no. I'm going to answer yes and no.

510
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: The reason of the yes and no is because there's

511
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: so much more safety features built into new cars. Lane assist,

512
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: adaptive cruise control, all those sort of things are really

513
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 2: good because it makes it safer on the roads. However, yes,

514
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: bring back the knobs. And Hyundai, Porsche Volkswagen they are

515
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: thinking about doing just that. In fact, Hyundai Design North

516
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: America vice president, a guard by the name of Ha Haksu,

517
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: has basically said that they have talked to their customers

518
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: and the customers are saying, we need to go back

519
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: to knobs. We need to go back to those.

520
00:28:52,960 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: Now, Wow, you would have breed the sireh relief. Yeah,

521
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: that's good knobs, it is everyone.

522
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so stand by, Yeah, so the knob.

523
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: Can't wait? Can't wait? Keep going?

524
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: Oh?

525
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: You want me to keep going? After you threw us

526
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: all under.

527
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: The I didn't throw anyone under the bus. I didn't

528
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: you like literally it's oh no, that's going to say

529
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: knobs are back. That was the bloody headline. So but

530
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: actually i'm reading it. It's buttons, buttons and knobs coming

531
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: back soon.

532
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: Here's here's an amazing story, and.

533
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: We'll be the judge.

534
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: Power over Skinned.

535
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: Don't oversell it. Don't oversell it. Next time. Go here's

536
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: a pretty fucking boring story. And if it's good, we'll

537
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: be impressed. But when you go this is amazing, you've

538
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: set our sights too high. So start again, Start again.

539
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: This group of nerds, these boffins at the researchers at

540
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: the Future Interfaces Group, have come up with wearable tech.

541
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: It's called power over Skin, right, and it doesn't take batteries.

542
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: It uses your bodies r F frequency to power these devices.

543
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't even know what RF frequency is. What is that?

544
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: Okay? What is that? The body has natural RF energy.

545
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: It's small basically because our body releases electrical impulses when

546
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: we move. Okay, that's releasing RF energy. And they're saying

547
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: they can harness the power of RF energy, which would

548
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: allow very very tiny devices to be powered by contact

549
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: with the skin.

550
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: So I've got it. What about sorry, what about this

551
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: for an idea? Because you know, a calorie is a

552
00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 1: calories energy, right, yep, Excess calories are stored in fat.

553
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: Imagine if we could run our home from our guts.

554
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: So Craig could powry his house by his fat.

555
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, excess fat.

556
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 5: Imagine if you all your wearables were running off, you're

557
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 5: at a post tissue. Sorry mate, keep going and apologies

558
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 5: to the listeners. I know this is bad, even as

559
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 5: we're in the middle of it. I recognize how bad

560
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 5: it is. But it could get better, so stick around.

561
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, these researchers at Carnegie Mellon University of talking

562
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: about using RF transmission, So maybe it might be a

563
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: bluetooth ring or a medical patch for tracking health data

564
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: sun exposure. So if you could think of a little

565
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: patch you'd have on your hand when you've been out

566
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: in the sun for too long, it would tell you

567
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: that you know you're risking getting burned. I think it

568
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: could be pretty cool to do that. And the fact

569
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: that we then don't have disposable batteries, no more land

570
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: waste all that sort of stuff landfill waste. I just

571
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: thought pretty cool.

572
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could do that. That is all silliness aside,

573
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: that would be fucking amazing.

574
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's lots of phone I mean. The good

575
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: thing is that technology has got so much better. Remember

576
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: you know, remember when you used to have light bulbs

577
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: that heat it up, and the problem was they took

578
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: up so much energy, and then they were replaced with LEDs.

579
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: The LEDs don't cause heat. They tend to expel light

580
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: rather than lots of heat. And the problem with old

581
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: light bulbs is that you used so much energy to

582
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: power the filament. It caused heat and that's what used

583
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: up lots of the power, not so much of the

584
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: light that it was producing. So yeah, there's a lot

585
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: to be said about it. I don't know if it's

586
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: a seguay as such, But do you have an air tag?

587
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: If either of you guys ever used air tags.

588
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, so I'm going to

589
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: go with no.

590
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: Okay, So at air tag, you put it in your

591
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 2: luggage or you put it on your car keys, and

592
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: that way when you can't find your stuff, you can

593
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: use your phone to find it. Apple's got their air tag.

594
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: There's the equivalent on Android. They've got tiles that sort

595
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: of stuff. But for the first time, Apple and Quantus

596
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: are going to part nor up and they're going to

597
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: use air tag bag tracking, which means you'll be able

598
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: to know where your bag is at all times, when

599
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 2: it's got off the plane and all that sort of stuff.

600
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you can kind of do that now, but

601
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: by supporting it and teaming up, it means it's going

602
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: to be a much better tracking system, so lot a

603
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: lot less chance of things going missing, and if they do,

604
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: they can find them really rapidly. I thought that was

605
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: kind of cool.

606
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: Because I need that. I need that, Patrick, how much

607
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: do you know how much that is?

608
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: Take overall? There's nothing an air tag maybe thirty bucks

609
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: or less twenty five? Oh yeah, you can track it off.

610
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: I think I didn't know what they were called, but

611
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: I think I knew about them. But I so tif

612
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: no pressure. But Christmas is coming.

613
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: So well we start wearing the headphones I last bought you,

614
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: or think about gifts or gifts, but you don't seem

615
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: to put them to good use, just saying.

616
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: Well, okay, sure that's valid. No, it's worth it to

617
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: Shay too, Shay, good point. Okay, forget that. But you

618
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: know what's interesting, Patrick Jones, is like this intersection of

619
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: biology and technology is just becoming more and more, isn't it.

620
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: You know, with like you're talking about our body powering

621
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: these things, you know, and you know, neural link and

622
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: all that kind of Yeah, it's becoming more and more

623
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: a symbiotic relationship between you know, biology and technology producing

624
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: something more evolved. Maybe I don't know it's more or

625
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: less evolved, but interesting.

626
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: But we were talking not long ago in one of

627
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: the shows about a company that was developing augmented reality technology.

628
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: But instead of wearing glasses so you can see an

629
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: overlay of tech in front of you, so it might

630
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: be giving you directions when you're walking down the street,

631
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: they're talking about putting contact lenses and having contact lenses. Now,

632
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 2: if you think about this new tech, if you could

633
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: use RF technology and your own body can power the

634
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: electronic devices that you're putting on your eye to be

635
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: able to have little tiny screens that allow you to

636
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: be it's not obtrusive. It means you don't have to

637
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 2: wear glasses and you could be walking down the street

638
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: and getting all this analytic information, you know, just hovering

639
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: in the air in front of you. Your new car

640
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: has heads up display, doesn't it.

641
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. That's exactly what I was thinking of

642
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: when you said that. I'm just imagine how much that

643
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: would fuck with your mind and brain at the start,

644
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: where you could pull up Google, you know, and you're

645
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: staring off into space and someone's like, what are you doing, bro,

646
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm just looking up a word? Look what I'm just

647
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: checking the stock market.

648
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: It's really funny though, Craigo if you had Tinder on

649
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: there and you swiped left or right and then you

650
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: slapped someone in the face because you thought that it

651
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: was swiping.

652
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, definitely don't look at paun when you're on

653
00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: the train, just saying you know that. But that would

654
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: have to be I can't see that ever being legalized

655
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons, probably the main reason being driving.

656
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: Imagine driving, but you've also got other shit coming up

657
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: in your vision other than the road ahead of you.

658
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: How do you control that? I mean, I see people

659
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: as I do a lot of driving at the moment,

660
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: and I know you do certainly do as well. I

661
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 2: would in a drive to Melbourne in an hour, I

662
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: would I reckon comfortably see three people on their phones. Ah,

663
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: of course easily.

664
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: You know, like what's yeah, I'm with you. I mean

665
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: obviously I would think all three of us. Our phone

666
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: just goes through our car. I don't even have to

667
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: just go call Patrick and the car calls Patrick. Even

668
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: in my old little cheap car, it still does the same, right.

669
00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: But but I think, you know, like turning, turning something

670
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: on where you've got to take your eyes off the

671
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: road and look at whatever it is, the panel, the like,

672
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: that's that's not like it's not illegal to turn the

673
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: heater on or the air conditioning on, or to change

674
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: the channel while you're driving. But otherwise you wouldn't have

675
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: that capacity. It would disable that as soon as the

676
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: start the car started moving. But yeah, I think of

677
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: course talking on you know, look holding your phone, looking

678
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: at your phone, using your phone, per se, stupid. But

679
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: I think there are other things that happen in a

680
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: car that are just as Like is it illegal to

681
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: drink a glass of orange juice while you're driving or

682
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: a coffee from macers? It's not illegal, is it. Well,

683
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: you've got to put that back in the cup holder

684
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: where you're not doing that blind. You've got to look

685
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: at it. You've got to put it in. Then you've

686
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: got to take your eyes off the road to reach

687
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: over and get it. I don't know. There's just a

688
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: lot of things that happen in a car that to

689
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: me seem equally distracting, as you know, talking on a

690
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: phone or picking up He's gone again, Tim.

691
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: I haven't gone. I'm right here. But talking about legality,

692
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: how about this one. You're driving in your car, you

693
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 2: drive through a drive through at a Macka's or whatever,

694
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: and you pay with your phone. Well, technically you've just

695
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: broken the law because the car is running, you're sitting

696
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 2: behind the vehicle, it's not parked, and you've just used

697
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: your phone to pay. You could sit if you were

698
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: you're with the Boys in Blue. You could sit at

699
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: a takeout and just fine every person who goes through

700
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: the drive through. But that's technically right, isn't it.

701
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: Page. I'm not that familiar with the leg out, but

702
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: it probably probably technically. But the boys and girls in

703
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: Blue in Victoria are having a bit of a holiday

704
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: at the moment. Anyway, you so do your best. They

705
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: were yesterday, I think, by the way, shout out to

706
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: vic pol do great work.

707
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: Amazing. They're fantastic.

708
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: That is that is a fucking not only is that

709
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: a tough job, but also it's like, I don't know

710
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: why with some people police are unpopular. What do you

711
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: try a world without police. Let's give that a go.

712
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: Let's see how let's see how anarchy works for you.

713
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: They're unpopular until something happens, they've broken down by the

714
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: side of the road or someone's broken into their house,

715
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: and certainly they need them, and then they're their best friends.

716
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's a perspective thing, but I've been

717
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: fortunate in my career as a journalist, and also I've

718
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: got many friends over the years who I've managed to

719
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: interact with who are police, and I see what they

720
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: go through. I know you are in the same boat

721
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: with You've had lots of friends over the years who

722
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: have worked in the industry, have been members. And I

723
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: think it's an altruistic thing that people do when they

724
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: want to be in an industry that services people, whether

725
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: they work in the armed forces or they happen to

726
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: an ambulance officer or a police officer. So much respect

727
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: for those people.

728
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 1: I think all of those face. You know, those people.

729
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: Let the nurses, doctors, paramout all of those and that

730
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: is that is apart from the fact that what cops

731
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: do is high risk. I mean, you know, they see

732
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: a lot of shit that humans probably shouldn't see or

733
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: were definitely not built to see. They see a lot

734
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: of shit. And you don't clock off at five o'clock

735
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: and the shit stays at work, like you take this

736
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: shit home. That's a whole different episode. But yeah, whatever

737
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: they get paid, it ain't enough.

738
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: And nurses and teachers, yeah the list, Ye all right,

739
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: next patrickaving your money Crago. Here's a pack that I

740
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: read in c neet an article, And if you have

741
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: a Gmail account, you've got fifteen gigabytes of storage, which

742
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 2: is a reasonable amount of storage. But because there are

743
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: literally billions of people who are on Gmail, who you

744
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: have Google accounts, they cap it at fifteen gig What

745
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 2: that then means is, once you've filled up that space,

746
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: you've only got the only option you've got is to

747
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 2: delet stuff or to then pay a subscription to increase

748
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,479
Speaker 2: the memory storage. But there is an.

749
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: Oh, and Patrick's gone. We'll be back with normal programming

750
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: in just one minute. TIV. Let's just keep Let's just

751
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: keep talking, and let's leave this in because what happened

752
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: just then, everyone is Patrick just disappeared off the screen

753
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: and considering.

754
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 3: His whole login failed, he didn't get up this time

755
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 3: and leave.

756
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, no, no, he's just okay. Just did

757
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: you just lean on a button that you shouldn't have?

758
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: No, I didn't lean on a button that I should have.

759
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm trying to connect you to my

760
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: road cast. To give me two seconds, can you hear me?

761
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: It is? It sounds a little bit like you're in

762
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: a phone booth now, but that's okay.

763
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: No, No, that's because I haven't connected to my device.

764
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: I see, give me two seconds.

765
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: Leave all this in, Tiff. This is great. This is

766
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: the organic nature of podcasts. Fuck, there's no editing, there's

767
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: no fluff. Yes, and his back.

768
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 2: Hello, Yeah, no, I I'm back.

769
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: That I'm back on my phone.

770
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: I'm trying to connect you to my road caster, right.

771
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: That is why your audio is rock solid.

772
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: Sc Give me a few seconds and I'll be able

773
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 2: to get it all back on again. God, and we're back.

774
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: You didn't even know where were gone because Tiff is

775
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: so fucking brilliant at editing. But we're back because Patrick's

776
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: Internet did a big poo.

777
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: And as the Internet, what was it? Well, can I

778
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: just say that for the last fifteen minutes, I have

779
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: suffered the equivalent of range anxiety. Go on, so we

780
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: know what range anxiety is. Right when you driving this?

781
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: We do?

782
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: We do? You think?

783
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: In my battery down to five percent and I've still

784
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: going to go one hundred kilometers.

785
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: Yes.

786
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 2: So I've set up in the studio in my new

787
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: studio area in my garage, right and I have everything

788
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: set up, and I got an old laptop, and I

789
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: was going to podcast with the old laptop and realized

790
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: that it wasn't connecting properly. It was too old. So

791
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: I rushed inside, grabbed my proper laptop, brought it out,

792
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: and I thought, I won't need the power supply. We're

793
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: only going to be talking for a short time. I'm

794
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: going to do it. I was only you know, I

795
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: was here at eight o'clock an hour just doing a

796
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: bit more research. Jump into the show. Battery Life's about

797
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: four hours easy, done two hours ago, no problem. So

798
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 2: then I get this notification on my laptop about twenty

799
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: minutes ago where it says power getting low. So I

800
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 2: dimmed the screen to the point so dark I can't

801
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: read anything of it, and I'm thinking, please please last

802
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: for the duration of the show, and then it just

803
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: went blank so it won't happen. My laptop went flat

804
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 2: because I couldn't be bothered dragging the power supply out.

805
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: All right, now it's nine point fifty two. I've got

806
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: a ten ish, so we've got a ten minute window.

807
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: You were telling us about if our Gmail is full,

808
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: and what were you telling us, how we can get

809
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: some more data or something.

810
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we get fifteen gig of data and generally,

811
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: over years and years of having a Gmail account, it

812
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: just fills up. And you get to the point because

813
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: I think we spoke once about having ten thousand emails

814
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: in your inbox, that sort of thing. So you've got

815
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: two choices. One is you pay for more storage or

816
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: you delete a whole lot of stuff. There is a third. Yes,

817
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: I can't quite read off your phone, but it's probably got.

818
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it says. Twelve six hundred and

819
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: eighty two emails I haven't opened, No.

820
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: Wonder you never answered me?

821
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: Is that bad?

822
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: It's very bad. You know you've got inbox anxiety.

823
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: I have no inbox anxiety. I don't fucking think about it.

824
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: I have inbox indifference.

825
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: I now have in box anxiety over your Phone's hilarious.

826
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: So here's a really interesting hack that I saw on

827
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: Seen It. All you've got to do is you just

828
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: open up another free Google account, back up all of

829
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: your old emails, throw them into the new account that

830
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: you've set up, and then just go happily along wiping

831
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: out all that storage and you've got free storage.

832
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: Again that I do not know how to do that,

833
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: but that sounds tippy. Know how to do that? It is?

834
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: Actually yeah, you can just and you can Google it.

835
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 2: It's not that hard to do to do a backup

836
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: of your emails and back up of your data but effectively.

837
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 1: But for our listeners are going, yep, can you slow

838
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: that down, Patrick, because I need to tell them give

839
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: them a like? So where do they go and what

840
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: do they Google?

841
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: So you what you initially, what you've got to do

842
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: is open up a new Gmail account. So you go

843
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: and get another free Google email and it could be

844
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: Craig Harper's second email account at gmail dot com, right,

845
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: and then Craigcarpers third, craigcarp is fourth and you might

846
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: fill up your email in there, and then there is

847
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: a process you can go to so how to back

848
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: up my Gmail emails and then you just back them

849
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: all up and reimport them to the other email account. Yeah,

850
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: always a great hack. All right, that's it's useful.

851
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: Let's you actually saved us some money today. Let's have

852
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: you got another story for us something that's tickled. What

853
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: about Russia finding Google twenty dacillion, which is twenty billion, trillion,

854
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: trillion dollars? Why Russia so angry at Google?

855
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: Everyone's angry at Google. Sometimes I just want to just

856
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: see people know how much money we're talking about. It's

857
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: actually twenty docillion dollars is thirty three zeros, so it's

858
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: a twenty with thirty three zeros at the end. So

859
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 2: this has been going on for about twenty so sorry

860
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: about four years. And so what happened was originally the

861
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: fine was for a one hundred thousand ruples and this

862
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: was handed out to Google in twenty twenty after basically

863
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: it was a lawsuit related to just certain restrictions on

864
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: YouTube channels. But what happened was Google ignored it and

865
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: then in Russia they double the bill every year, so

866
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: basically that's why it got so big. So every every year, sorry,

867
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 2: every second every day, so every day you don't pay

868
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: the bill, it doubles.

869
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: Wow, is there? What is there a deal for cash?

870
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: Like Google? Was there an installment plan? Is there? Yeah? Yeah?

871
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: It all related also to the invasion of Ukraine as well,

872
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: so you know it all is tied in with that.

873
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, so a decillion, twenty tazillion dollars. I mean

874
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: I I saw it written down and I couldn't take it.

875
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: I couldn't fathom that number. Try just try writing twenty

876
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: and adding thirty three zeros and your brain starts to

877
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: just phase out because it's just doing that now, Tiff,

878
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 2: because it's just crazy.

879
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: Speaking of wealth and tech, So the richest man in

880
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: the world is about to become part of the new

881
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: US government or the new like Donald Trump is put

882
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: him on his team.

883
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 2: Oh really, well yeah no.

884
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: He can you just google? What is Elon Musk's new

885
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: role going to be? It's like a can you get

886
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: that cat out of my there's a cat on your keyboard?

887
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: Could you? I Mean, I'm not really all over this,

888
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: but I know that Elon Musk has been given a

889
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: role in the fucking whatever it is? What's his new

890
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: job on Donald Trump's team?

891
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: Hey, wild tips looking that up. Just know that the

892
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: most expensive or the most valuable company in the world

893
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: now is a company called in Video. It's overtaken Apple.

894
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: I saw that, and I've never heard of in Video,

895
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: which doesn't matter. But I'm like, I would think the

896
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: most valuable company in the world, I would have heard

897
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: at least of the brand. What do they do?

898
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 2: It's probably powering the micro chip inside your graphics card,

899
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: So I always thought of in Video as a graphic

900
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 2: card companies. They basically you need a card in your

901
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 2: computer that powers the visual device, so that powers the screen,

902
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: and that's in video makes lots of chips, so effectively

903
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: it's a it's a computer chip manufacturer. People who are

904
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: into gaming will all know in video they make really

905
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: good video cards, which you need to be able to

906
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: do really good high end gaming graphics. And if you

907
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 2: work in the video space where you produce high end

908
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 2: video or Pixar, the people that make all those animations,

909
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: you would definitely know who in Video is and what

910
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: in video does, So they're they're just a yeah chip manufacturer.

911
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, did you did you find.

912
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 3: It is the Department of Government Efficiency.

913
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: He is the the head of the cheekily titled Department

914
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: of Government Efficiency.

915
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 2: What does that even mean?

916
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: Which abbreviates to dodge.

917
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: I like that they thought about that being just dodgy.

918
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,959
Speaker 1: That's funny. That's funny. There's one other thing I wanted

919
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: you to just touch on quickly. Oh yeah, Melbourne Supermarket

920
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: will be the first in the country to use AI

921
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: powered smart trolleys. What how does what does that look like? Like?

922
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

923
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: Well, practice trolley will literally have a screen on it

924
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: and what it will mean is as you shop, it

925
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 2: will what you're putting into the trolley. It will make

926
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 2: it easier because you basically it scans everything as that

927
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: goes into the trolley and you will be able to

928
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 2: pay via your shopping trolley. You don't have to line

929
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: up at the checkout. They're trialing. I think Cole's is

930
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: going to be the ones that are going to try

931
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: the smart trolley and they've teamed up with the American

932
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 2: company but the sensors, so they're using this advanced AI

933
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: and in built scales and senses. So if you put

934
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 2: your fruit in theirge on, you can weigh them before

935
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: you chuck them into the car as well, so you

936
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 2: won't have to worry about ever needing to queue up.

937
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: You've got spos built into it. It's got a digital

938
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 2: screen you can browse specials while you're walking around the aisles.

939
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 2: There's a little bit about it that kind of makes

940
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: me think it's a bit sad because I go shopping

941
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: on a after I talk my tai Chi class on

942
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 2: a Wednesday night, and I go to two different supermarkets

943
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: and one of them has self serve checkout. Well, they

944
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 2: both do, and I like to talk to the checkout operator. Well,

945
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: I'd like to talk full stop, as you know, but

946
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 2: I don't mind lining up and having a chat. But

947
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: when you're just check it out yourself. That didn't sound right.

948
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: Did it.

949
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 2: When they're checking out yourself, it's like a mirror list

950
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 2: of a private moment. But that the other supermarket, when

951
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: I go there, they don't have any registers that are

952
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: they're all self served and they just have stuff standing

953
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: there making sure you're not nicking stuff. So I think

954
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 2: it's a little bit sad, particularly you know that we're

955
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: not having that human interaction and now we don't even

956
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 2: have to talk to anybody. They probably won't even have

957
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: people at checkouts anymore. They'll just have security cameras. I

958
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: think Amazon had the first automated shopping center, didn't it.

959
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: We didn't have any people at all. You just walked in.

960
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: And do you think so, I'm with you, Like I've

961
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: got a wool Wars five hundred meters from my house

962
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: and I've got an Ida fifty meters from my house.

963
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: I go to IgA for ninety percent of my staff.

964
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's often cheaper than more worse.

965
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: And no, I'm not sponsored by IgA, but a lot

966
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 1: of stuff. You'd think I'll be way dearer because it's smaller,

967
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: it ain't. And Shane, I fucking love Shane. Shout out

968
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: to Shane who owns it, who's just a young dude

969
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: with a wife and a kid, just fucking trying to

970
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: make ends meet. And I love giving Shane money. I

971
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: love going over going and he goes mate and we like.

972
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: I know him, he knows me, he knows most of

973
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: the customers' names. And it's just good. I'm with you.

974
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,959
Speaker 1: It's a little bit reminds me of my childhood. Where

975
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: you go and buy groceries and the person you buying

976
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: them from those who you are and you have a

977
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: relationship and yeah, so I'm going to keep that. So

978
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: I g A keep going, keep going, because all the

979
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: fucking dinosaurs like me and Patrick, We're going to keep

980
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: showing up. Tif. On the other hand, I do.

981
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 3: I g do you IgA in food works in Ellwood?

982
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 3: I like going him for a chat?

983
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: I stand corrected. Thank you. See that's three out of three.

984
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: I g A keep doing what you're doing.

985
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 2: So next time you go in there speaking to your buddy,

986
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: call it iger. We call it I get down here.

987
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: Why is that?

988
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, because that's what it spells ig.

989
00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's insane.

990
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: It's not I've always called it IgA.

991
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: Well, we could all call you Pa trick, but we

992
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: don't call you Patrick because.

993
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 2: You know, or if you haven't heard that, I've always

994
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: called it iger.

995
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: No, have you ever called an ig iger tiff negative? Yeah?

996
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: The thing that they do just in my town, in

997
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: Bewen rather than Bland.

998
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: I think that is true. Patrick. How do people find you? Followy,

999
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: connect with you, come and stay at your house for

1000
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: the weekend. You should do an AIRB and B. I

1001
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: should do like a you should do a weekend. This

1002
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: is what you should listen to me fucking telling you

1003
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: what you should do. Ignore this. But now that you've

1004
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: almost got your new Tay Cheese studio, I was going

1005
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, you would have kicked me in the

1006
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: dick for picking the wrong martial art or whatever it is,

1007
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: the wrong art. Now that you've almost got your new

1008
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: Tay Cheese studio, you could have like a small little retreat,

1009
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: couldn't you? Yeah?

1010
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: I could, I could.

1011
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: Could you be less enthusiastic?

1012
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: No, I will like in run little workshops. The plan

1013
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 2: is to run some little workshops. I do enjoy doing those,

1014
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: and you can focus. One of the things I like

1015
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: about doing tai chie workshops is you can focus on

1016
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: the finessing of the moves because tai chi is a

1017
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: very slow moving martial art, and you know, on the

1018
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: surface it looks pretty lame, you know, just people moving

1019
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 2: around slowly. But if you think of a karate move

1020
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: where you kicked somebody, that would happen in a fraction

1021
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: of a second. But if you do it in tai chi,

1022
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: you've got to focus all of your balance on one foot,

1023
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: you slowly lift up the other leg and you kick out.

1024
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 2: That's a lot of core stability to be able to

1025
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: get you to stand on one leg then extend the

1026
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: other leg, which is throwing your center of gravity out,

1027
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: and then letting it come back down again slowly. So

1028
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: there's a lot of strength in moving slowly. So answer

1029
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: your question. Yeah, it'd be great idea, Craigo, And you

1030
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 2: could come to and so could tip.

1031
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could it. Hi, every one, welcome to tai

1032
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: Chi one oh one with Patrick. It's not a very

1033
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: good martial art, but fuck it's graceful. Other bloke's already

1034
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: kicked you in the face four times while you're moving

1035
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: your legs slowly in a horizontal position.

1036
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: I could release you to death. Craig, just watch yourself.

1037
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: Tell people how to find your son.

1038
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: How you go to websites now, dot com, dot au

1039
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 2: if you want to talk about websites and branding and

1040
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 2: logos and tai chi and anything, or just come up

1041
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: for the weekend, you know, just come up the weekend.

1042
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: Just come up. I'll tell you what. Someone is going

1043
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: to take you up on that. And you're going to

1044
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: get some fucking stalky stork stuff.

1045
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: What's that I'm going to take him up on it.

1046
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: There you go. Really we can do some puppy play

1047
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: dates because tips, I'm going.

1048
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 3: To rub my bike up on bringing the dog.

1049
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: Really okay, who's going to look after the dog? You

1050
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: had to look after it? Can just jomp over here. Yeah.

1051
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: When you get back, her and I might be gone.

1052
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: All right, we'll say goodbye affair, but thank you both

1053
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: of you. Have a good day.

1054
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: Bye bye.