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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: Hello Healthyish listeners. I hope you're having a great week,

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Speaker 2: or I hope you have had a great week. This,

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Speaker 2: of course, is the daily podcast from Body and Soul

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Speaker 2: and as this EPP drops on a Friday, Sitting with me,

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Speaker 2: Flicty Hollie is our fantastic producer Tabby Wilson, and we

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Speaker 2: are of course talking through the three hotter stories in

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Speaker 2: the health and wellness world this week. Tabby, you're back,

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Speaker 2: so nice to chat to you again.

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Speaker 3: I know it's so good to be back behind the microphone.

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Speaker 3: I've missed it now.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, what's spain caping you

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Speaker 2: healthy Ish this week? But you've just been to the physio.

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Speaker 2: What happened?

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Speaker 1: I hurt my foot. For all of those who followed

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Speaker 1: my brief foray into running, I have strained my foot

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Speaker 1: and I went to the physio for the first time.

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Speaker 1: I've never had to go before, and I.

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Speaker 3: Learned a lot.

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Speaker 1: I learned about a lot about like where you carry

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Speaker 1: your at tension, particularly with running, and so I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of excited to keep going because they assess your running

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Speaker 1: basically and try and show you how to be not

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Speaker 1: only a better runner, but a stronger runner.

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Speaker 3: So that's how I've been staying healthy ish.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I suppose that is the upside. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I've never really heard someone say I'm excited to go

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Speaker 2: the physio, but at least you're learning something out of

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Speaker 2: it and hopefully you're running with you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they did get out the roly thing. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: anyone who's been to the roly thing the roly thing unpleasant.

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Speaker 1: I will say that I'm not looking forward to spending

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Speaker 1: more time with the roly thing, but I'm enjoying learning.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me share the most intriguing story of the

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Speaker 2: week I spotted on Body and Soul online, and it's

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Speaker 2: all about oats. Now, you may have seen on socials

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Speaker 2: in the news that apparently the world has turned on

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Speaker 2: oats influencer using words like the horrible fake health food

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Speaker 2: and it's you of nutrients. Have you seen this tabby?

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Speaker 3: I haven't.

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Speaker 1: I thought we were still on team. We love oats, overnight,

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Speaker 1: oats for the wind, oat milk for the wind.

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Speaker 2: In one corner, you find a wave of content creators

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Speaker 2: who are basically living out as you say, beloved whole

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Speaker 2: grain to everything from nutrient depletion and gut issues to

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Speaker 2: blood sugar problems. So on the other side, well, let's

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Speaker 2: just say the breakfast table, we have frustrated nutrition experts

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Speaker 2: and dietitians who are obviously trying to fire fight this

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Speaker 2: mis information, especially over TikTok and attempting to kind of

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Speaker 2: sort the scientific fact from fiction in a hope that

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Speaker 2: you know, we all will trust what we've always known

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Speaker 2: about oats. So what's the truth. Well, we've had Linda

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Speaker 2: Klement on this podcast before, and she was actually interviewed

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Speaker 2: for our story on Body and Soul online. She's a

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Speaker 2: nutritionist and she believes a lot of the fear mongering

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Speaker 2: around oats has its roots in diet culture. Oats are carbs,

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Speaker 2: and carbs are bad and also our latest of sets

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Speaker 2: with watching our glucose levels. Now I put my hand up.

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Speaker 2: I have done this recently. I did wear a continuous

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Speaker 2: glucose monitor. So what people are saying is that they

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Speaker 2: eat a bowl of porridge and then they see their

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Speaker 2: glucose levels spike. So that's how oats are getting a

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Speaker 2: bit of a bad rap.

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Speaker 1: How interesting it's So it's always so intriguing to me

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Speaker 1: how things, those cycles of things in terms of wellness

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I mean I feel like I actually is

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Speaker 2: so right because I feel even ten years ago when

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Speaker 2: I was editing Women's Health, I feel like we talked

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Speaker 2: about this trend that oats were bad as well. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: what we do know is the research and studies repeatedly

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Speaker 2: show that oats are a versatile, affordable source of excellent

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Speaker 2: nutrition and should be consumed as part of a very diet.

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Speaker 2: Now where they could be getting some well, the reason

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Speaker 2: they are getting some bad publicity is that there are

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Speaker 2: certain oats that are better than others. So steel cart

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Speaker 2: or rolled oats are great because they have a high

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Speaker 2: Particularly pairing them with a good source of protein and

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Speaker 2: healthy fat can also slow digestion and leave you feeling

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Speaker 2: from is a lot of You know, the instant oats

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Speaker 2: in supermarkets or scan it. I have an app where

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Speaker 2: I find it fun. My kids love it. Oh can

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Speaker 3: To say that sounds like a game. What I hack.

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Speaker 2: You can turn it into a game anyway, So consume oats.

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Speaker 2: They're actually okay for.

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Speaker 1: Your health, Thank goodness, because I rely on those. That's

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Speaker 1: like the one breakfast I can get in my body

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Speaker 1: in the morning, and breakfast is the most important meal

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Speaker 2: So okay, talking about morning's tabby, what health and wellness

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Speaker 2: story caught your attention this week?

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Speaker 1: I am bringing to you something short and sweet, the

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Speaker 1: low dopamine mornings. So we have all talked. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not the first time the hot girl walk will

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Speaker 1: have come up on Healthy Ish. I've edited a few

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Speaker 1: episodes about that. But basically, I feel like we've all

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Speaker 1: seen the trend of building your morning wellness routine. So

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Speaker 1: Perhaps you should do a cold plunge, or drink lemon

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Speaker 1: water or have a specific smoothie. I think we can

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Speaker 1: all see that there's been a trend of adding more

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Speaker 1: and more and more to our mornings. And the reason

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Speaker 1: they help us spike our dopamine.

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Speaker 3: So kind of start your.

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Speaker 1: Day with a win when the morning, win the day.

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Speaker 1: But this particular but some people are leaning towards low

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Speaker 1: dopamine approaches to their mornings, which basically is just an

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Speaker 2: So I give us an example.

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Speaker 3: So, so the.

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Speaker 1: Example that this particular Body and Soul article refers to

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Speaker 1: is instead of going for a morning walk while listening

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Speaker 1: healthiest of course, while also checking in on your social media,

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Speaker 1: responding to friends, and sipping your morning coffee, perhaps a

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Speaker 1: low dopamine version of this would be kind of that

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Speaker 1: idea of being present, So maybe just enjoying your walk

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Speaker 1: And that way you don't kind of have this massive

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Speaker 1: you're like, I don't know what to do with my life.

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Speaker 2: So I like that, but taking the pressure off, like

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Speaker 2: you don't have to do that.

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Speaker 3: And I think we all need that exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for that now, just quickly before we go,

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Speaker 2: let me share a quick rundown of the most clicked

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Speaker 2: story of the week. It turns out your sex life

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Speaker 2: has a shelf life, and it's actually shorter than you think.

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Speaker 2: And there's this catchy word to describe it, and we

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Speaker 2: have talked to we did talk about these offline listeners.

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Speaker 2: It's called limerens or as some people might know it.

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Speaker 2: It's actually called the honeymoon phase. And according to science,

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Speaker 2: it's very real and there's a very real reason we

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Speaker 2: go into this phase when we first meet someone. But

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Speaker 2: our story is talking about the exact time when you

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Speaker 2: feel that you're in this zone and then it just

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Speaker 2: drops off. And so what is that time, Well between

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Speaker 2: six months and two years, so pretty quickly into a relationship.

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Speaker 3: I say, I was gonna think it was longer. I

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Speaker 3: was going to say three years.

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Speaker 2: Nope. So if you want to keep the spark alive,

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Speaker 2: I'll leave a link to the story in the show notes.

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Speaker 2: Sex therapist Alice Charles's interviews. He has some great advice

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Speaker 2: we've also had on this podcast as well. So there

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Speaker 2: you have it, six to six months to two years.

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Speaker 3: Well, there you go. That's my little fun fact for

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Speaker 3: the week.

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Speaker 2: I think Tabby all the best with your foot and

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Speaker 2: we'll see you in two weeks. We see howly next

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Speaker 2: week you the week.

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Speaker 3: After perfect, I will see you then.

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Speaker 2: If you do want to read anything else about any

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Speaker 2: bit worrying, isn't it, We'll leave links to all of

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Speaker 2: those in the show notes. Make sure you rate and

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Speaker 2: out in your local Sunday paper, and until tomorrow, stay

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