1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Small businesses now. They are the backbone of our country 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: and I know firsthand how tough it is, long hours, 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: constant hurdles, and too often feeling like you're in it alone. 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: And what I keep hearing from you is that small 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: business owners don't feel heard. My team and I are 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: paying close attention to our small business community and the 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: feedback that comes to us through the Mental podcast. Now, 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: one thing is clear. You want to hear from more 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: businesses beyond Sydney, from across the country, and especially those 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: that are doing it tough. That's why my team and 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: I are launching the Small Business call Out. The Small 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: Business call Out, which will be under the Mentor channel, 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: will talk to business owners all over the country every 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: single week, no matter where you are. We want to 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: hear from you. What's working, what's not working, What do 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: you need from the government to actually succeed? What other 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: things can you enlighten us about what it's like being 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: in the small business community. This is your as to 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: make your voice count. We want to hear from all industries, 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: from those struggling, from those who feel overlooked, or those 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: who have something to say but haven't had the platform 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: to say it. I'm going to continue hosting the Mental podcast, 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: but the Small Business call Out will be uploaded between episodes. 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: So let's get into this week's edition of the new 25 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: Small Business call Out. What is the name of your 26 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: business and in simple terms, what does your business do? 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: So I'm Renee Williams from the Real florest We are 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: a cafe florist here in Aubrey in the Aubrey CBD, 29 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: which is beautiful, connecting peace in our community, which I love. However, 30 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: we also concentrate on weddings corporate events and now we're 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: moving into florestry education, which has been a really wonderful 32 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: path for us to be able to take. 33 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: Where was your business founded and where is it located? 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the business was actually founded in my kitchen actually, 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: so I was I'm a single mum of two little 36 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: girls and at the time I was working in my 37 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: kitchen with my babies by my side, doing weddings on 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: the weekends and working a couple of other jobs. So 39 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: I'm a qualified florist and did my florestry training over 40 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: over a three year period and then I had children, 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: so it was just something I was kind of doing 42 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: on the side as a bit of a side hustle, 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: and then it just kept growing from there. We went 44 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: from my kitchen to our garage and cleared everything out 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: of the garage and then we built a website and 46 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: it's been gangbusters since then. 47 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: And what inspired you to start your business? 48 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: So I did a florestry apprenticeship when I was and 49 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: you know, being a florist was the only thing I 50 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: can remember wanting to ever do. I remember my grandma 51 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: or my old life said to me when I was 52 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: about four years old, Oh, she's a beautiful flower, and 53 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: that stuck with me my whole life. And my dad 54 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: had a small business as well, so he was had 55 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: a nursery that he was working from from home. So 56 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: growing up, that's what I knew and I loved. I 57 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: would wag school, you know, chuck asiki so that I 58 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: could stay home with my dad and help him go 59 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: and do his deliveries and water the plants and you know, 60 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: replant the seedlings. And I just loved that environment growing up. 61 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: So when it comes to studying my own family, I 62 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: wanted to be able to do that with them and 63 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: have them work by my side. And being that I 64 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: had this apprenticeship under my belt and this skill set 65 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: that was just kept continuously going. So I was just 66 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: doing my friend's weddings on the weekends, and from that 67 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: then you know, the next bridesmaid would contact me and 68 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: asks me to do there, and it just kept going 69 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: and going to the point where I was doing thirty 70 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: weddings on a weekend as a year as my side hustle, 71 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: and I thought, this probably isn't so much of a 72 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: side hustle anymore. This is a full fledged business and 73 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: I can really provide something to the people that I 74 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: love that they're looking for, which is such an amazing experience. 75 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: I was working, as I said, a couple of other 76 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: jobs and I was looking to start moving on from weddings. 77 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: I was getting a lot of people calling me to 78 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: do everyday kind of deliveries for them, and so I 79 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: was startying to I was like, I really need a 80 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: website for people to be able to touch base that way, 81 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: because I can't keep answering my phone when I'm at 82 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: work at my other job and we're having that conversation around. 83 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: I was working with a friend and I was like, 84 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: you know, what do I do? How do I go 85 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: about promoting that that's what I want to be able 86 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: to do is to provide real flowers for real people 87 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: that I know without offending them and saying sorry, I 88 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: can't it to my phone. I'll have to call you 89 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: back at six o'clock when I finish my shift. Anyway, 90 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: my little girl was there with me at the time, 91 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: and she was four years old, and I was saying, 92 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 2: I want to make real flowers for the real people 93 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: that I love every day, not just when they're getting married, 94 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: which is beautiful in itself, but the demand is growing. 95 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: And she said, Mammy, you were a real florist and 96 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: I said yeah, Darlan, And she's like, but a real 97 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: one and I was like, yeah, I'm a real florest 98 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: And then from that conversation then I was like, the 99 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: real florest encapitulates everything that I do, right, I want 100 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: to be able to make real flowers for real people. 101 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: Buy a real florist, and I am a real qualified florist, 102 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: and that's exactly what we're going to do. So it 103 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 2: all just kind of built from there and we just 104 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: kept growing, it growing, which has been amazing. However, I 105 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: was doing that and the website was going really well, 106 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: and I quit my other three jobs to be able 107 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: to do this full time, and then COVID hit and 108 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 2: you know that changed everything. Weddings and events stopped, but 109 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: the demand for Florestry increased because there was a need 110 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: for connection. And florestry really is an emotional conveying conveyor, right, 111 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: What we do is we convey other people's emotions at 112 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: a time of need. So that increased, and so luckily enough, 113 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: I had not long built the website, and we went 114 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 2: from doing you know, one or two deliveries a day 115 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: to doing twenty or thirty a day from my garage. 116 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: And I was hiring all of my friends to come 117 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: and do deliveries for me so that because they all 118 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: weren't working, so that I could get all of that 119 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: connection out to people. And it was it was crazy. 120 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: And so for me here I just happened to I'd 121 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: walked into the space that we have the real florest 122 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: Aubringing now the Cafe Florist, and it used to be 123 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: a cafe and I loved it, and I walked in 124 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: and I just said, I love that space. Would make 125 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: the most beautiful cafe florist. And wouldn't florishry and a 126 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: cafe go so well together? Because it's that memory recall 127 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: and that sensory smell. You walk into a florist and 128 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: you remember those smells the same thing as when you 129 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: walk into a cafe. So I was like, why don't 130 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,559 Speaker 2: we do both and put them together and just start 131 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: this little three month pop up shop. And it's been 132 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: five years and we're still here. 133 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: What's the most rewarding part of being a small business owner? 134 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: I think small businesses start from a skill or a 135 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: need or a want to be able to contribute in 136 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: a way that's meaningful not only you, but to your community. Right, 137 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: So then that's where we all kind of begin, and 138 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: any big business started as a small business. So it 139 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: is one of those things where it's such a special 140 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: thing to be able to do working, you know, from 141 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: home with your family by your side. But then as 142 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: that grows, that growing demand is really quite difficult to 143 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: deal with. But at the same time, that's you know, 144 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: the dream, right is to be able to build what 145 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: you love into something that you can do every day. 146 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: I think the most routing part is the connection to 147 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: our community, being that it's a cafe people walk in 148 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: every day to get their coffee on their way to work, 149 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: and then they you know, grab some flowers for the 150 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: girl that's having a birthday in the office, or for 151 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: you know, someone who's had a baby or family member 152 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: that they love. So we get to literally speak to 153 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: community people every single day in what we do, and 154 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: we get to provide that connection for them. So it 155 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: really has been just such an amazing experience. And then 156 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: I got to set that up so it worked around 157 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 2: my family. So you know, my kids are a really 158 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: integral part of what I do here, and my customers 159 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: know them by first name, and you know, they'll go 160 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: up the road to the other shops down the road 161 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: and do a little drawing on the sidewalk with chalk 162 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: for them, or you know, take them a coffee and 163 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: drop it off to their office for them, or So 164 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: being able to design my business around my not only 165 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 2: my skill set, but my community and my family has 166 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: been just so rewarding. 167 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: How is your business doing right now? 168 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: So in complete honesty, we had had such a surge 169 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 2: after COVID that now we're kind of on a downward 170 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: projectory because we went from you know, just doing flower 171 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: deliveries and coffee every day, and then when the COVID 172 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 2: restrictions really reduced weddings and events and everything. We're back, 173 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: so we had that to contend with as well, so 174 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: we almost tripled our workload for about three years. It 175 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: was a backlog of weddings and a events that weren't 176 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: able to happen during COVID, and so we're kind of 177 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: through all of that backlog now and we're back to 178 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: pre COVID trading. I believe with the added struggle of 179 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: increased costs of everything that we do. So to be 180 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: honest with you, I think we're doing much better again 181 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: in the last day three to four months than what 182 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: we were, say, six months ago. Unfortunately, I had a 183 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: team here of amazing staff, but the you know, the 184 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: rising cost of living and expenses in this economic time 185 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: that we're in or went up and trade went down 186 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: at the same time. So because that discretionary spend was 187 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: people were holding tight on their money. They weren't doing 188 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: it right. So we really had to change the structure 189 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: of the business. Unfortunately, having to let a couple of 190 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: our full timers go to try and content contend with 191 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: how difficult running a business in this economic time is. 192 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: So we did all that. We changed the structure of 193 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: the business and now it's running much smoother, which is wonderful, 194 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: but it was quite a difficult time to try and 195 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: get through. 196 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: What challenges have you faced as a small business owner 197 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: and how do they impact your business and how did 198 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: you overcome them? Did they affect your family members, did 199 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: they affect your relationships? How did you solve them? 200 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: So running a small flourishry business or any business is 201 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: challenging at the best of times. As I spoke about before, 202 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: the cost of goods is still soaring right, So importing 203 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: and exporting is all part of our business. The best 204 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: way we could get around that is to support local 205 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: growers so that we could make sure that a we 206 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: were being able to get the supply that we needed 207 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: that was necessary to run the business, but also to 208 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: try and support other local businesses whilst we do so. 209 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: So that was a really integral change in our business 210 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: to kind of try and make sure that our cost 211 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: of goods wasn't too high. But you know, in the 212 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: flores street industry and any industry, the cost of goods 213 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: is just extronomical and it's quite hard to deal with. 214 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: The other things is like the spikes and demand are 215 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: quite hard to deal with when you have reduced, like 216 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: myself reduced my staffing to try and deal with that, 217 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: because again everything rate rised, so the cost of wages 218 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: went up, super went up, insurance went up. All of 219 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 2: those things soared at the same time as sales declined. 220 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: So having to try and deal with all that is very, 221 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: very difficult. When your profit margins in a small business 222 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: can be quite minimal and then the price of everything 223 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: else goes up. How do you deal with that in 224 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: a very efficient manner. It is a hard thing to 225 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: deal with, I think for myself though, I have dealt 226 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: with a fair few quite large challenges in my business. 227 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: So as I said before, I was a florist, I 228 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: was working three other jobs, and I don't have a 229 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: business background. I just I have a skill set like 230 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: most small business people do. And so the advice I 231 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: was given by my amazing accountants who are wonderful, was 232 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: you need insurance. You need to get all the right 233 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: people on your bus to help support you open this 234 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: business and open a legitimate business. So that's what we did. 235 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: And so I contacted an insurance company, to an insurance 236 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: broker to try and help me navigate that particular part 237 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: of running a business, which is difficult on its own. 238 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: And when I did so, they came and seen me 239 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: and went over all the difference of different sets of 240 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: insurance that I was going to need, which was mind boggling. 241 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: And I'm dyslexic as well, so reading the fine print 242 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: in that was quite difficult. So I signed it, I 243 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: trust them, assigned it, sent it off great. And then 244 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: one of my staff members here actually had an incident 245 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: where I had to call work cover. She was working 246 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: and dropped scissors into her foot and needed to go 247 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: to hospital, and I said, you go to hospital. I'll 248 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: call the insurance company and we'll work it out from there. 249 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: And when I called eye care to find out what 250 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: to do next, they said, we don't have a policy 251 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: for you, and I was like, what do you mean? 252 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: So then I called called the insurance company and they said, no, 253 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: you needed to take out that policy. We don't do 254 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: that policy. And I said, well, we spoke about that's 255 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: the insurance that I need. Why why would I hire 256 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: you to do that job if that's not what you 257 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: do And they said, oh, because that's a job that 258 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: you have to do as the business owner. And I 259 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: wasn't aware that I didn't have cover. I just genuinely 260 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: thought I did so. Needless to say, I ended up 261 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: with a two thousand dollars fine I know, sorry, twenty thousand, 262 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: not twenty twenty thousand dollar fine for negligence in my business. 263 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: And then, of course, not only does that impact me financially, 264 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: impact my family, impacted my staff member greatly. And then also, 265 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: you know, that imposter syndrome set in and I thought, 266 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: I'm not cut out for this. I'm not going to 267 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: be a good business owner. You know. I remember literally 268 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: being on the floor crying and calling a helpline and 269 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: they said, we can't help you because you're the employer. 270 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: We're here to help employees. And so finding support in 271 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: that moment was really really did be caught. However, I 272 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: do have great people around me, and that has been 273 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: my saving grace. So I know, rang, and I rang, 274 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: and I rang anyone and any everyone that would give 275 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: me advice and help me navigate that. And I just 276 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: put one's foot in front of the other and I 277 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, so what I can do. What's the 278 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: next best thing I can do? And that is how 279 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: we got through it. And I created a safety process. 280 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: I created a staffing process. I created a contract for 281 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: anyone that walked in my store that was coming to 282 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: do any type of work experience or workshop here that 283 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: made sure that they are aware of all the safety 284 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: aspects of walking into my store before they even get 285 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: in the door. So, you know, as much as that 286 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: was really hard, I learned a really valuable lesson. And 287 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: I suppose at the end of the day, creating those 288 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: you can't succeed if you don't fail at some point. 289 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: But that was extremely difficult to get through, but it 290 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: taught me something in that. It taught me that I 291 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: am capable of dealing with really hard things, and it 292 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: taught me to create processes when I make a mistake, 293 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 2: to create processes around those mistakes to make sure that 294 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: that doesn't happen again. So, you know, I see other 295 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 2: florists and obviously watch their Instagram reels and stuff, and 296 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: they've all got their cute little sandals on and their 297 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: little day dresses and they look beautiful on Instagram, and 298 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: I think, oh my god, what if you drop something 299 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: onto your foot put them shoes on, you know, so 300 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: just little things, and I think that's going to help 301 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: me and then other business owners as I go along 302 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: my journey of helping them make sustainable florestry businesses to 303 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: make sure that they're putting the right processes in place 304 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: to you know, make sure everybod is safe and that you, 305 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 2: as a business owner are doing the right things by 306 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 2: your employees. 307 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: How confident are you in Australian government's ability to support 308 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: small businesses effectively? 309 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: I would say it's probably a three, which I think 310 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: is pretty generous to be honest, because I do think 311 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: that there is support there if you're actively looking for it. 312 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 2: So for myself in the lead up to this podcast, 313 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: for example, I contacted business in South Wales because I'm 314 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: an inquisitive person and went to them and asked them, Okay, 315 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: what are you putting forward to support small business in 316 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: our regional area to the government, and you know, we 317 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: sat down had a fantastic conversation about there's grants being provided, 318 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: there's some you know, tax incentives, there's loan programs. They're 319 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: trying to get rid of the red tape that is 320 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 2: surrounding small business and the information that's provided there. But 321 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: when things are changing, it's such a rapid pace in 322 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: the economics times that we're in, how does a small 323 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: business stay above all of that and stay across all 324 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: of that, like it's not possible. You know. There's so 325 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: many emails that go into our emails every day, you know, 326 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: and I will open the ones that come from Business 327 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: South Wales or my business or my gove obviously because 328 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: I'm inquisitive and I want to know, and I'm sure 329 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 2: most small businesses do. They want to know. But what's 330 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 2: happening is is everything is changing so quickly and so 331 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: often that the current support system that we have leaves 332 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: small business kind of gappling with the lack of access 333 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: to these an awareness to these changes, and it is 334 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: so complex to apply for any of them and for 335 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 2: like you know, for a grant or financial assistance, for 336 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: tax relief or for solar panels, whatever it is might 337 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: be that the government are trying to do to help that. 338 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: The lack of time and awareness is the blockage there. 339 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 2: They're run by, you know, they're influenced by big corporation, 340 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: but where is the small business voice in there? Because 341 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: small businesses. As a small business owner, we don't work 342 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: to work, We work to live. We work to support 343 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 2: our family and provide our skills and provide something to 344 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 2: our communities, which is quite literally integral to the business 345 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: world and into employment and you know, to life satisfaction. 346 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: Why are we not setting up our small businesses to 347 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: succeed in the first place from the very get go. Yeah, 348 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense to me. 349 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: If you'd advise your strain government on one action to 350 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: take to better support small businesses, what would. 351 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: It be Automatically support them, don't make them have to 352 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: go looking for the support because we don't have time. 353 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: I work six days a week at the summer, single 354 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 2: mom with two kids, and I start work at six 355 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning and I finished just before school 356 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: bell goes, so that I can pick them up from 357 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: school every day. And then I'm doing the mum things, 358 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: you know, so by the time I get into bed 359 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 2: by the time and I do my invoicing and my 360 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: social media and you know, all the things that need 361 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: to be done to keep my business rolling, finding things 362 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 2: that could help me run my business and structure my 363 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: business better, and you know, investigating the changes of legislrate legislations, 364 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: and you know, tax reform and all of those things. 365 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: I don't have the time to do all of that. 366 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: I am working in my business every day and when 367 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm not here, my time needs to be spent with 368 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 2: my family. I think there should be some kind of 369 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 2: It's hard because there's so much that needs to be 370 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 2: done to help small businesses, so knowing where to start 371 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: is quite difficult. But if there was some kind of 372 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: online portable like you've got portal like for us there's 373 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 2: businesses New South Wales and our local chamber websites that 374 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: help give you direction. But again, if you're not actively 375 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: seeking that, how do you know. So when you register 376 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: your business, why don't you get a starting small business 377 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: pack sent to you? Because you've registered it. You've registered 378 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 2: your business so the government know that you're starting a 379 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: new business when you do so, right, So why is 380 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: there no package sent out even in the sense of 381 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: an email or you know, in the mail of you're 382 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: starting a small business, here's the things that you need 383 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: to know before you open a door to a customer. 384 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: I think that is really missing. I'm sure you know 385 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: when you've got these big corporations, they have people they've 386 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: employed to do all of that for them. But as 387 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: a small business, you are one person and your time 388 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: is minimal, so making sure that you do it correctly. 389 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: Of course you want to do it correctly, But as 390 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: I said, you don't know what you don't know, and 391 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: most small business owners don't have business degrees, so they 392 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: don't know they what is needed to be able to succeed. 393 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 2: So I think just as simple, you know, I get 394 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: it when I do my own personal insurance. Have you 395 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: got eye ear cover? You know, maternity cover? All these 396 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: things that are offered to you, Why isn't that sent 397 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: to you when you register at a business. Because of my 398 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: experiences and the hardships that I've been through in my business, 399 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: I think the a as I said before, sending out 400 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 2: a you've registered a business, this is what you need 401 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: to know and do package to every single person that 402 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: registers a business, whether it goes ahead or doesn't, is 403 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 2: probably the best place to start. I think it's a 404 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: no brainer to make sure that you're giving them the 405 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 2: support they need from the get go. So I think 406 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 2: that would be something that the government definitely could put 407 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: into place to make sure that all small that small 408 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 2: businesses are given the right tools to succeed. However, from 409 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 2: a personal experience point of view, I think insurance reform 410 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: needs to happen. I think it's a growing burden on 411 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: small businesses. The amount of insurances that we need to 412 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: have before we even open our doors, and the education 413 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: around that is minimal unless you're actively seeking it out. 414 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: So I think it's a really overlooked form of support 415 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: that the government could be giving. You know, by the 416 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: time we have our you know, window insurance, of personal insurance, 417 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: and now there's mandatory cyber insurance, not to mention that 418 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 2: insurance has all gone up over thirty percent. So as 419 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: a small business, when you're making a small profit margin 420 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: already just by needing to have those you have to 421 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: have those insurances before you can do anything. I think 422 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: being able to kind of look at maybe an overall 423 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 2: small business insurance package that covers you for all of 424 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: those things. And as you grow and as you you know, 425 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: put on more staff for the more money you make, 426 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: then that can kind of push out. But I just 427 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: think it's quite a burden on small business when small 428 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: business in itself is kind of starting to become unsustainable. 429 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: I think the government could help in that one or 430 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: two ways by making sure that we are better supported, 431 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: rethinking insurance policies and capping them at a at a 432 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 2: certain premium. I think if we can do that and 433 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: subsidize that for small businesses, it's a really great place 434 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: to start, and it would significantly significantly reduce the burdens 435 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 2: on small business owners. I don't I think it's becoming 436 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: increasingly unsustainable to run a small business. As we said before, 437 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: the profit margins and the small business are small and 438 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: unless like for myself, I create recipes for my flowers 439 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: so that I know I'm making a profit margin, but 440 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: that's through trial and error, that through failure and procedure, right, 441 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: So for myself, I kind of come at my business 442 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: as a system based approach where I combine process and 443 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 2: creativity together so that I can make sure that we 444 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: are always sustainable in what we do and making sure 445 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: that we're making a profit margin of what we do. 446 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: But that profit margin is only small, and when things 447 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: like insurances go up, and pay grades go up, and 448 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: super and all of the things that we need to 449 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: have to run our small business, rent is extronomical at 450 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 2: the moment. So when all of that goes up, and 451 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: if you're not on top of it, you can quickly 452 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: lose your business. And as I said, I speak to 453 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: small business owners every day and I haven't spoken to 454 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: one single small business owner who is not finding this 455 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: current moment in our economic time that we're in the 456 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: hardest to deal with that. It's harder right now than 457 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: it was during COVID, and that was difficult. You know, 458 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: people shutting their doors left, right and center because just 459 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: the rent alone, like my rent when I started working here, 460 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 2: has gone up so I've been here for five years, 461 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 2: has gone up by four hundred dollars a week in 462 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: five years. So how and I run, as I said, 463 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: a system based florists. So I know how much it 464 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: costs me per arrangement that I make on an average 465 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: sale to make sure I cover my rent, my salary, 466 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: you know, all of the sundrys that I need to 467 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: run my business, my insurance, all of that I work 468 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: out to it a figure and I put that onto 469 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: every arrangement that I make. But there's so much more 470 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: that goes into it, and I just I feel sorry 471 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: for people that don't understand that they need to have 472 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: those processes to make sure they make a profitable business. 473 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: They're doing something that they love and they want to 474 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: be able to contribute, but they're not being able to 475 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: do it in a way that provides harmony in that 476 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: work life balance manner. So businesses are closing their doors left, 477 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: right and center, or they're taking their businesses home because 478 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: they cannot afford they have to take something away, so 479 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: they can't afford to run their business sustainably anymore. So 480 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: for myself, I had to let go of my staff 481 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: as I mentioned before, which was absolutely heartbreaking, not only 482 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: for me but for them and took a mental toll 483 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: on myself and my staff at the time. But that's 484 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: what I needed to do to succeed in my business 485 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: because if I go down, we all went down, you know. 486 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 2: So I needed to make sure that this was staying 487 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: sustainable so that I could support me and my kids. However, 488 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: I was open to the idea of this isn't a failure. 489 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 2: If this change doesn't work, this isn't a failure. It's 490 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: a learning curve and I had to really keep telling 491 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: myself that or through that process. But it is hard. 492 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: It is hard for small businesses. I was speaking to 493 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: someone the other day that said they asked someone for 494 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: the money that there they were outstanding for an invoice, 495 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: and not long after somebody, the person that was owing 496 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: them the money committed suicide because we're all doing our 497 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 2: very best. But as I said, in small business, the 498 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: profit margins are so low and the price of everything 499 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: keeps going up so fast, the cogs are just extronomically 500 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: increasing that how do you not only run your business 501 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: and make sure that you're looking after your everything involved 502 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: in your business, but your own mental health at the 503 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: same time. So I think we have a real problem 504 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: in our community, small business community, in making sure that 505 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: we are all sustainedly working and living for a greater 506 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: purpose and not running ourselves into the ground where we 507 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: think that's the only answer. It's heartbreaking for myself when 508 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: I was in that space, and I was there, it 509 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: was very difficult. I contacted all my creditors and I said, 510 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: I'm restructuring my business. I'm doing something I don't want 511 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: to do in letting my staff go. This really wasn't 512 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: what I wanted to have to do. But I had 513 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 2: bills to pay, and I had outstanding, very significant outstanding 514 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: bills to pay, and so I just contacted them. I said, 515 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: I know that this isn't okay, and I believe I 516 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: am a good business owner and a very intelligent business woman. 517 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: I know all of that, and I'm here anyway. I'm 518 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: at this point of very low where I owe more 519 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: money than I can think of how to get out of. 520 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: So I just want and I said to all my creditors, 521 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: I just want you to know that I'm restructuring my 522 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: business in a way that means that I can continue 523 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: to do what I do and make sure that I 524 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: pay you back as soon as I possibly can. And they, 525 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: because I had such good rapport with them, they were 526 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: all like, that is okay, we'll see you next month 527 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: and we'll talk about it then, you know. But building 528 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: really good relationships with the people around you and making 529 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: sure you have the right you know, people on your 530 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: bus is integral to making sure that you get through 531 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: the hard times in your business. 532 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: What is the one thing you wish more people knew 533 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: about your business? 534 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: Well, we and myself, I say we as my company 535 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: and myself as a business owner. We're so passionate about 536 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: our small business community that we want to make sure 537 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,479 Speaker 2: that we're here to provide not only you know, our 538 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 2: beautiful flowers to our customer base, but the support that 539 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: is needed to small business. And that's what we really 540 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: are aiming to do with the educational piece that we 541 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: are currently working on in our business. So we've got 542 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: the real florist cafe and now we've got the real florist, 543 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: the real florest education support. So we run a twelve 544 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: week program here which is our florestry education from beginners 545 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: to intermediate florestry and now so we've been doing that 546 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 2: for the last two years, which has been amazing. Now 547 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: we've got it going into local schools and for work placement. 548 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: The reason being is that you know, these in this 549 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: day and age, it's so hard to get your hands 550 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: on experience, so we want to make sure that we're 551 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: providing that as much as possible. And I love going 552 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 2: into schools. I've been teaching at a couple of local 553 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: schools in their arts departments. I've been doing a six 554 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 2: week program with them, and I always say to the kids, 555 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: you know, push your hand up if you struggle with 556 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 2: the reading and writing or maths, and they all put 557 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: their little hands up, and I'm like saying, I am dyslexic, 558 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: I've got disccalcolia and dysgraphia, and i am ADHD. So 559 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 2: sitting down in a classroom was always so difficult for me. 560 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: That's why I'm here to help you get hands on 561 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: experience and something that you love and enjoy. So and 562 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: just seeing the pride on their little faces. So it's 563 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 2: beautiful teaching it to adults in our twelve week program, 564 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 2: but really getting it into the schools has been so beautiful, 565 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: such an amazing experience for me to connect with other 566 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 2: people like myself that really struggled with you know, the reading, 567 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 2: writing and sitting down and concentrating all the time. It's 568 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: been able. I've been able to kind of gift my 569 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: skill set to them and show them that there is 570 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: other things that you can do in the workforce to 571 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: make you know, that humus work life balance happen. And 572 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: it's been so beautiful. So we're really working on that 573 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: at the moment. So we've taken that two years worth 574 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 2: of experience that we've had teaching one to one two 575 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 2: students here at the Real Florist or in schools, and 576 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: we're about to take it to an online program to 577 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: help teach other people how to do what we do 578 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 2: and that it is possible to have a job that 579 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: you love every day and be able to give back 580 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 2: in a way that's really special. 581 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: Where can people find you and your business, let us know. 582 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 2: So where the Real Florist Aubrey and you can find 583 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: us in the beautiful Aubrey CBD our Florest Cafe. It 584 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 2: is such a beautiful part of Australia, Aubrewadonga. So if 585 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 2: you haven't been here, come because we always get people 586 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 2: coming into our store being like oh the people in 587 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: this community are so lovely and everybody's up for a 588 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 2: chat and we really do have that kind of country 589 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: hospitality here in Aubrey Wadonga with that city vibe which 590 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: is so beautiful. So yeah, So we're in Swift Street 591 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 2: four eight nine Swift Street in Aubrey at our local Aubrey, CBD. Otherwise, 592 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: you can always find us on our website at www 593 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 2: dot Therealflorist dot com dot au where you can find 594 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 2: everything that we do here, so our education, our weddings events, 595 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 2: corporate work as well as our local deliveries and now 596 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 2: our teachings of the Real Florists. So our workshops are 597 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: all on there, our education pieces all on there and 598 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 2: that's where you'll find the links. Otherwise, you can jump 599 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 2: on our socials. We've got our Instagram, Facebook, our YouTube, 600 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 2: our LinkedIn, our tiktoks. I'm very I'm not very good 601 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 2: at the tiktoks, but I am trying so hard. I 602 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 2: like to call them the toctics, but you can find 603 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 2: us on all the social platforms. The real Florest. We 604 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 2: wanted to continue advocating for or not only the Flores 605 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 2: Street industry, but small business in general and making sure 606 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 2: that we are providing real time education and space to 607 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 2: succeed in small business. And yeah, that's where we will be, 608 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 2: thank you very much,